Lesbian Bride Surprise on Living Single
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- Опубликовано: 4 окт 2024
- Before anyone had ever even heard of the show Friends, the Fox sitcom Living Single was all about a group of friends living together in a huge apartment in New York. It featured Queen Latifah, a lot of very '90s fashion choices, and on one episode, a surprise lesbian wedding. In contrast to same-sex-marriage episodes on other shows, Living Single's characters fully embrace their queer friends -- a shift that reflects something much bigger happening in American culture at the time.
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Living single is so underrated despite the fact that it predates Friends
It's wild that Friends gets so much credit when Queen Latifah and Kim Coles were doing it first.
@@MattBaume Well that's #whiteprivilege just plain and simple😬
Friends was made because of Living Single.
the old days when LaTifah was less obviously gay
I might need to check out Living Single cause I love Friends and a lot of the clips Matt showed made Living Single look pretty funny. I hope it's as character driven as Friends is because that's honestly what I loved about Friends. The characters were always the most important part of the show and even though it was primarily a comedy the main characters all experienced some serious situations no matter how silly or goofy they seemed on the surface. Although Phoebe might seem at first glance just to be an eccentric and flaky oddball there's a recurring arc throughout the series of her trying to find her long lost father and eventually reconnecting with her birth mother.
@@Kxpuc Just like New Kids On the Block.
"Lesbians! Neat!" Me seeing my friends
I love the well deserved shade thrown at Friends.
I know at some point I am going to have to do a video about that show so I'm just steeling myself for when that day comes.
@@MattBaume We got your back Matt.
And Matt delivered. Chandler was supposed to be gay, but they copped out.
Living Single was way better than friends !! I said what I said
Yes! I cringe so mych everytime ross speaks
Yep
Agreed
YES!
Better written too
Before I knew I was not straight, about 16, my closest friend came out as gay and I was really upset because he came out to literally everyone before me. Even my sister's freinds knew a year before me, I was literally the last person.
I later realised that (besides some dumb homophobic shit I had said to him when I was 12) he told everyone else before me because, out of all the people that could of rejected him, he knew he wouldn't be able to cope if I rejected him. The more you care about someone, the worse it will feel if they don't accept you so the most scared you are of coming out to them
So were you making homophobic comments toward him, merely to take focus off of your sexual preference?
Ur cute
@@anthonycoleman9593 that happens often
The fears must be incredible hard to deal with. My oldest had a really hard time coming out to me, despite decades of me vocally supporting the LGBTQ community in from of them. I can not imagine the pressure they were under.
(Nods)
Considering how many friends I lost when I came out, Shayla wasn't wrong to be afraid. I didn't speak to my own dad for a year after coming out.
I'm sorry that you hqd to deal with that bigotry. I hope you are in a better place now. Much love to you
I am sorry
Living single is so underrated.
I used to make my mom take me to the taping of this show every week for like two years
Oh that must have been amazing! What was it like to be there?
Matt Baume Honestly it was like a party. Sometimes you’d have random celebrities in the audience. They had music and the audience warmer had really high energy. I was blown away at how quickly things took. At this point I had sat in the audience of a lot of sitcoms and Living Single would always finish in like 1 1/2-2hrs when most would last up to 3 1/2 hours. The cast rarely messed up their lines. They were all extremely professional and took their comedy very seriously
@@sejejo7565 lucky!
Angela Lansbury, throwing shade.
I love that they did cast Karen Malina White as the college friend. Such a reminder of her and Erika Alexander playing best friends on The Cosby Show.
Max’s reaction was similar to the one I got. It was me “lying” that annoyed my family, that I didn’t “trust them” to come out to “them”. To this day they can’t get their collective heads round why I just couldn’t at that time. Sure in hindsight I could have guessed that they would be ok with me coming out, but hindsight is easy, precognition is hard.
Living single is such a great show. Wish it got as much attention as friends did then and now. Maxine and Regine were my favorite.
Black people loved the show. I don't know if white people knew about the show.
@@Tippy2forU I'm white & I never missed it! My sister & I watched it every week.... I even have season one on DVD (can't find the rest)
Gotta agree, having heard that Murder She Wrote actually extended into the 2000s, if you count the movies, BLEW ME AWAY. It feels so early nineties I can’t imagine it being anywhere else!
I had no idea the show ran that long. I thought it was over in the late 80's early 90's
@@embracethebright1587 same and I was alive in the 90s lmao
I loved this show so much a kid! Was like 6 yrs old watching this everyday. I don't know why that was allowed, but I'm sure I am better for it.
I think it's a good family show! The jokes are maybe a little raunchy sometimes but no worse than any other sitcoms of the time. And all the characters are stable professionals with their lives together (unlike the characters on Friends) -- honestly they're some very strong role models.
_"And all the characters are stable professionals with their lives together"_
*_Laughs in Flavor Magazine_*
Same! Gladly!
@@MattBaumeRaunchy is a bit harsh. Risque may be a better word. Cardi B's song "W.A.P" is raunchy.
@@MattBaume way less risque jokes than threes company & I watched that as a kid lol
Revisiting this since Queen Latifah just came out.
"Sitting there in one of the worlds most spacious hair salons..." 🤣
The fact she didn't come out to Max because she was in love with her is so relatable.
That "world's most spacious hairdresser" line got me.
Queen Latifah's sexuality is an open secret. But in her own time, when she's ready...
It’s none of your business :)
After we get married, then shell probably feel comfortable enough to tell me
But she's already admitted to liking women.
She kinda came out at the beginning of quarantine. Jada Pinkett Smith did a Girls Trip reunion on her Facebook Talk Show and Latifah admitted that she has a huge crush on Adriana Lima. She also lives with her longtime girlfriend and became a mom recently. But that interview was the first time she even remotely confirmed it
She was Cleo the year before....
Oh how I’ve waited for Woman to Woman episode of Living Single to get the culture cruise moment!!! 👍🏾👍🏾
Aww glad I could make it happen! :D
Matt Baume Thanks again it’s such a good show it’s actually held up over the years. I still crack up over Regine thinking she should dress like a butch so as to not tempt the fellow guests. I’m like gurl that’s a turn on for some Lesbians.
Hey, sorry to bother you, but I was wondering if you could cover bisexual representation (or lack there of) in your culture cruise
Yes! I would love to see this too!
Yes! I'm looking for an episode of a show that tackles the topic. Bisexuality has been weirdly hidden on TV, so it's hard to find a good show to talk about. Let me know if you have suggestions!
I don't know that it's anything new to anyone, but there's Rosa in Brooklyn 99, and a recent episode of Will and Grace (that I thought was pretty poor, personally, considering how recently it was made).
@@MattBaume Degrassi explores lgbt topics.
@@MattBaume Rosa in B99, Eleanor from The Good Place, and Korra and Asami from The Legend of Korra (though Korra and Asami were only strongly implied in the show itself, confirmed through word of god)
I just realized I don't think I've EVER seen a bi male character. Even Freddie Mercury's sexuality was fudged in Bohemian Rhapsody
Matt is so nerdy and cute at the same time
Don't those often overlap?
Don't those often overlap?
Could you do the infamous sex and the city episode about bisexual men
as a lesbian, i couldn't have been more pleased to see this video in my subscription box !! ❤️
Amen!
It was nice seeing Erika Alexander (Maxine) reunite with her friend she had in The Cosby Show.
I remember watching Living Single religiously when I was younger. I loved that show and this episode was one of my favorites. It was a good conversation on both externalize and internalized homophobia and how to navigate that in your day to day relationships. At the time I agreed with both sides. I understand why she didn't come out to her friend and I understood why her friend felt so hurt that she didn't. People still deal with such situations even today. The fear of what others might think or might say when they find out that someone they are close to is LGBT+ is very real for those in the community. And, its understandable to be reluctant to come out because of that fear. It is my hope that as the community becomes more and more accepted we will be able to finally extinguish that fear for good and truly become a safe space everywhere.
In the Golden Girls episode, Blanche also got annoyed that Dorothy's friend liked Rose instead of her.
This trope always pissed me off: the straight friend being offended that they weren't told. Like, damn, do they not live in reality where homophobia is rampant? Have a little empathy; what matters is that they chose to tell you AT ALL.
it wreaks of entitlement to me
Yeah but if you thought you were close friends you would feel some type of way to know that someone who you felt so close to and thought you knew so much about was hiding this part of them from you.
Not only did they not let you know about something so important to them but also what does it say about how they view you, that they don't trust you to even try to not homophobic.
It's less about them being homophobic and more about them being upset that the possibility of homophobia kept them from being close with their friend.
I don’t think it’s about entitlement or lack of empathy. It’s about honesty. I was in this situation where a friend of mine came out almost a year after we met. And I was angry, for the same reason Max stated. She was my friend. And I wasted all this time discussing guys with her and trying to get her to go on double dates with me. I got over it, but I felt like part of our friendship was hollow because she kept a part of herself away from me. I missed the opportunity for her to tell me about her REAL crushes instead of the ones she made up. And it hurt that she really thought I would turn on her.
@@midnite4ever being lesbian, I never thought of it in this way that you explained. Before I came out, I was so used to hearing about gays not being accepted by others or that we're going to hell, that I just didn't think I would ever be accepted or loved. So I jus played a role until I was able to be honest with myself. I did have people upset with me but it's hard to own up to the truth when you hear people make comments about it before u come out. I was in a shell but once I came out everybody said they already knew. I was confused because I didn't understand their comments about gays prior to coming out. No one even makes comments about it anymore.
T First...Yay for you accepting your truth. I hesitate to say that I understand, because I’ve never had to grapple with the idea of “coming out” to anyone about something so life changing. So, I’ll just say I can see how that could be something agonizing and not easy to do. Especially in your situation where it doesn’t seem as if the people around you were the most accepting. I was just upset with my friend because we met at work...in an adult book store...and she saw me interact with EVERYONE and have a BALL talking to people. So, for me, it hurt that she thought I wouldn’t accept her. But, like I said, I got over it and we moved on. I just hate that we wasted some of our time.
I totally forgot that Max and Shayla played Charmaine and Pam on Cosby Show.
Funny how almost all of the audience reaction examples aired in October which is the gayest of all the months
Isn't that weird??? I noticed that when I was doing the titles for them. I can't explain that one, other than that ... I dunno ... it's early in the TV season so maybe they were front-loading with ~controversial~ topics???
@@MattBaume The fall sweeps period starts late October, so a ratings grab may have something to do with it.
As the great Jack McFarland once said "Halloween is one of our high holy holidays"
I dont know if youve done this yet but the proud family had an episode on bullying the gay kid but they couldnt say he was gay because disney so they used the word sissy instead. Honestly i think the writers did really well considering the limitations they were given by the network.
Matt’s upcoming project will be editing himself into every episode of Murder She Wrote as Jessica Fletcher’s 90’s camp sidekick.
This man!!!! Matt Baume you are the shit and then some ❤️ thank you for this.
Aw yay you're very welcome!
I'm here for the shade thrown at Friends 🤣🤣
Watching this at 5 in the morning while having a panic attack to calm down. Thank you Matt, I seriously don’t know what I would do without your videos. They’ve gotten me through a lot of hard times.
Other people may have pointed this out but Maxine didn't live with them! She was a lawyer with her own place honey!
She was like the Black woman version of Kramer from Seinfeld.
Home is where you eat. And she ate at their place. All the time.
Ok usually these sitcoms reveals I just kinda roll my eyes at, but the one sided roommate love? I GASPED
i gotta watch this show
Wait, there’s a show that has the same concept and format as Friends, but queer-friendly and a predominantly POC cast?
I NEED TO WATCH THIS
Funnily enough, I had a crush on Max when that show was on.
I had a crush on all four.
If you grew up in the 00s and recognize shaylas voice it's because she is dejonay in the proud family if you are a little older then to you she's Charmaine from a different world
Her voice is so recognizable
Or as Keneesha from Lean on Me.
The Parkers had a lesbian episode as well it’s called “Since I lost my Baby” it’s funny as hell. 🤣🤣
I know this video is about representation on television but can we talk about how the character Max and her friend used to play best friends on the Cosby show. There chemistry was amazing then
I forgot how much I loved Living Single. I hope it's in Hulu or Netflix so I can give it a rewatch. Great video Matt, I really appreciate this series, very informative and entertaining!
It's on Hulu
@@gensai93 thank you!
Peppermint Patty was straight. Her friend was not. Duh!
Also, I loved Living Single. I can’t believe Friends got the hype the original deserved.
Maybe bcz had a better story
@@ΕΥΘΥΜΙΟΣΚΑΛΙΤΣΟΣ Nah.
Living Single is my favorite show. Thanks for covering this episode on the cruise.
I appreciate this series so much as a person trying to become a better ally
Thank you!!
Living Single was a great show. My black co-worker was impressed that I loved the show. She called it, "The show white people stole and made "Friends"."
Lol pretty accurate description to me 😂
I'm also a white person who loves Living Single and doesn't think Friends is that great. She was completely right
She's not wrong.
I'm but a simple enby- I see "lesbian" in the thumbnail and I click
It’s so cool to look back at the past Matt. Thank you for all the work you do to bring us entertainment.
I feel the emotional breakthroughs in this episode of "Living Single" outdo any actual wedding ceremony scene, especially if they might pan away from any kiss (like in "Roseanne"). The coming out, the re-evaluation of the friendship, the support, the reconciliation scenes are more important, imo, than one "standing in front of a minister" scene. Talking about being gay and the processes of coming out are important. As awkward as the "Sister of the Bride" episode is, I value the discussion. We all know what a wedding looks like but sometimes it's good seeing how a coming out discussion progresses.
2:02 ...hey, they were both on The Cosby Show
YEESSS!! And I love the Friends read!!! Living single was definitely ahead of its time. Black people have been the last to catch up when it comes to LGBTQ Acceptance. Thank you for giving this beautiful Afrocentric show its flowers!
That Golden Girls scene still makes me cackle!
A friend shared this on Facebook I’m so glad I clicked! I learned so much!
Aw yay welcome (don't forget to subscribe!)
Matt Baume is getting me through the nightmare of 2020.
I'm tearing up, this is so heartwarming!
Loved this show.. It was funny, all the actors were great.. Great casting... Their lines were delivered with sharp perfect timing. The New York apartment was way cool, even though it was just a set... They touched on some great subjects too..
Cool side note - Erika Alexander- who played Max had acted alongside the actress who played her college friend years before on the Cosby Show .
That was cool to see .
I loved this show as a kid!! I can still hear the theme song in my head!
I never even knew this episode existed! Probably because I was a kid back then and my Jehovah’s Witness mom wouldn’t watch an episode like that. I want to see it. I grew up to become a straight ally and I absolutely love your channel, especially videos like this!
just dropping in to say that i love your videos so much! you put so much effort into ALL your projects and work, and i love that your videos give me the opportunity to learn about my community in an entertaining and digestible way (which is really important for me, my adhd makes it so difficult for me to focus on ANYTHING). i'm planning on buying defining marriage soon, and i'm so excited to read it! so much love for you, and i hope everything in your life is going well.
Aw thank you Miss Lesbians! :D
Hey, can you talk more about drag kings? I watched your other videos on drag balls and I noticed that there is not much information on a female or ftm equivalent. I don't want it to be history that we are missing out on!
I’ve been waiting YEARS to hear your take on this episode lol
Could you please do the Moesha episode “Labels” it’s a mess beginning to end but an interesting look at homophobia and representation at the time
Yes, that one's on my list!
I want to see more of these actors more. They don’t get enough work.
All this happened when I was coming to terms with feelings I had.
Thanks for all the consistently good content you put out, Matt.
Hey thanks for watching!
I love your not-so-subtle diss at friends. I despise friends. More of a Frasier man myself.
The feel and styles of the characters just reminds me of That's So Raven lol
Queen Latifah actually came out as a lesbian.
I love Living Single!
a Tootie reference, thank u!
The first time I recorded it I accidentally called her "Tootsie" and wouldn't even have noticed but James was like "wait, who?"
I don’t know if it fits the format, but it would be really cool if you could explore the gay vibes behind Facts of Life!!! Jo and Blair 💕
Jo and Blair totally hooked up. 100%!
I have been waiting on you to do this episode
Growing up in the 90's, I almost forget how seismic the shift was... although even in 99 and 00 when I came out it still felt like we were in the sidekick/novelty phase that I think is best represented by the phrase "my gays."
Living single used the model of The Golden Girls. Max=Sophia, Regine=Blanche, Sinclair =Rose and Khadijah=Dorthy
Bingeing your videos was one of my favorite parts about quarantine. Love the quality and effort you put into these. Keep it up.
What's also mind bending is that Courtney Cox was ON Murder She Wrote in 1986. She was also on Love Boat that year. I know! Weird time warp!
This episode reminded me of the first time a friend came out to me. She was my best friend in high school and she'd gone off to college far away while I stayed around and got knocked up. She came to visit me when the baby was born and we re-connected and she told me she was gay and I was like "Okay, cool!" But then she proceeded to tell me that her first lover was one of the teachers at our school and that their affair began when my friend was 15. I was freaked out--understandably, I thought, but I kept it to myself. (This was about 1988) I seriously had no issues with her being gay--but the predator teacher was concerning to me despite my friend assuring me it was "consensual."
We fell out of touch again as she went off to grad school and big cities and stuff, but reconnected about 10 years ago--so we're 45. My friend is so fucked up I can't believe it. She is so full of self-loathing that she joined the Catholic Church hard core--I mean, going to mass every day, trying to become part of the laity leadership, pious all day long, etc. So I asked her how she reconciled this with being gay and she said that only "gay acts" were sinful. So I said, "Well, if it makes you happy!" But I'm lying, because she clearly is NOT happy. I kept in touch with her for a few months but her hatred for herself was so toxic I eventually had to pull back.
Very good research here...and I lived through it all. Thank You .
That ROC episode was the first time I remember seeing a gay person on tv (outside of In Living Color).
That Certain Summer in 1972, starring Hal Holbrook and Martin Sheen.
Living Single>Friends
What's up with the audio? Otherwise, great video, Matt. Keep up the great work!
Omg I just discovered your channel and it’s giving me life. I love it !!
Living Single! I loved that show as a kid!
one things for certain: if Jerry Fallwell denounces it its probably GOOD for America.
I love the sharp “Whoo!” audience shout at 7:55.
I really enjoyed this episode Matt! Great job
Holy crap that was a STRONG start to a YT video.
I loved this show and these woman!!! Such a classic. They were all so good together
I turned it on for a rewatch recently and it's still hilarious. It's dated, sure, but it holds up. Kyle/Maxine were one of my earliest bisexual crushes annnnddddddd yep I have not changed my mind!!
Fun fact; the woman playing the lawyer and the woman playing the lesbian friend also played best friends on the Cosby Show for multiple seasons 😊
Wat a great show u got here ! 👍🏽 love learning about the gay/lesbian culture. Its so crazy cause my older sister came out around this time mid 90’s and i think because it was on tv so much my family didn’t really care or have any real reaction, it was just like ok so who r u dating.? Which was surprising since my family is from Haiti thought my parents would have more to say. But i definitely think it’s because they started hearing about it more
I have to say this is one of my favorite episodes of Culture Cruise. It just really made me happy.
Good video. As a straight person, I always appreciate the change to learn. This video was very informative.
I love that this video popped up cuz I've been rewatching Living Single lately. Awesome analysis as always!!
This was such a good episode of Culture Cruise.
God, I love this video series so much.
Pam & Charmaine reunited on TV since the Cosby show!
Lol I loved this show as a kid. Great video