WHY ROWERS GET INTO OVER TRAINING (Heart Rate vs Lactate vs Perceived Load Training)
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- Опубликовано: 14 сен 2022
- #Overtraining in #rowing has become almost standard, both at amateur levels and certainly as well as in high performance levels. The questions is: why. In this video, I am talking about my personal experience with lactate testing and anaerobic threshold, their correlation as well as the connection to overtraining.
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Yes I found a similar thing to be true when ultramarathon training. Most work needs to be done at a boring pace. It takes patience and discipline to remain in a suitable aerobic zone for the desired effect. Tough people just naturally want to go hard.
I've been chewing on questions surrounding this subject of Zone 2 for a while now and so much of the research is from cyclists or runners. It's like comparing apples and oranges.
I have some thoughts on the subject. This is me the student talking back at the teacher in hopes I am understanding what's happening correctly. I only have my HRM and Erg for testing but everything you've said makes sense.
- Why do Zone 2 training instead of doing Zone 3 or 4 or 5? At the end of the day the goal is more time at aerobic capacity to train it.
- Zone 2 is simply the most economic training stimulus for that goal, which conversely lets you accumulate more training time in Zone 2 at threshold as compared to other Zones.
- When you use higher zones you add in anaerobic training which starts accumulating fatigue in the machine you are using to train the mitochondria, your aerobic capacity, and your threshold. If you fatigue your body by pulling anaerobically, your training can be cut short, ending your aerobic session sooner than you would have otherwise; you've trained one system at the expense of another.
- Which begs the question. If I was working with limited training time, say, for a month of limited 20-minute sessions. Would it then make sense to train at higher zones to challenge both aerobic and anaerobic systems? Under this logic, I can't meet the goal of more aerobic time, so I might as well get both aerobic and anaerobic time in.
- I'm thinking this is a dangerous mindset to cater to, but I'm only posing the question as a thought experiment for testing the fundamental logic; all zones above 2 train aerobic respiration, but by staying at lactic threshold it lets us train more efficiently because we can sustain it for a theoretically indefinite period of time (assuming we log that time.)
- If I'm understanding this correctly, the proper mindest is one where I am trying to accumulate more weekly hours in Zone 2 or at threshold as a proportion of my time, as opposed to Zone 3,4,5 power, or strength training. I'm currently strength training 3 times a week and rowing threshold 4+ times a week for 45min, but no direct anaerobic rowing yet. I'm wondering how you would portion time for each of the main elements of training (Aerobic, Anaerobic, and Strength, etc.)
Thanks again for all you do Aram. Your insights have been a huge help to an amateur and fledgling rower like me and I'm sure so many others.
You are so AMAZING! I LOVE how authentic your training is
None of this was ever tracked when I was rowing. Came across from Rugby Union in winter to rowing in summer, back and forth for a few years, was interesting to see how 'unfit' we were for rowing after a full season of rugby.. Our erg goal was always 1800m in 6 minutes. Otherwise we focused on technique. Dont do either anymore due to injuries, but still erg at least once a week at the gym.
Aram, I follow all your videos carefully. There is real research in what you do. You don't hesitate to broach sensitive and taboo subjects. Your remarks are far from being stupid and yet far from the usual dogmas. On the contrary, I feel that you have a lot of personal experiences that few people want to share. You don't, you share and that's what I appreciate. Asking questions and expressing doubt is very healthy. I think I'm too old to sign up for your courses and I don't feel able to do more than what I am currently doing. One of your videos shows a charming 70+ year old lady who rows more than 2,000km/year. It motivated me to do it too, thank you. Good luck, it's really good. Regarding this last subject, the aerobic and anaerobic limit, it is a very interesting subject and it deserves an open approach as you do. Personally what you say is outside the dogmas learned at university (master of sport). The biorower like what you share are innovations to your credit, of course it upsets but it's good.
Bony, thank you very much for your comment. It means a lot to me.
We are always inclined to work too hard and always never the opposite.
There are many routes to the same goal
But generally the slower and more methodical the more effective for the average person