Sammy Davis in 1955 Interview part 1 of 2

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  • Опубликовано: 18 ноя 2024

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  • @hokeywolf3416
    @hokeywolf3416 7 лет назад +37

    It's no wonder he was such a success. A truly humble, talented and optimistic man.

  • @karenKristal
    @karenKristal 10 лет назад +55

    Sammy is such a sweet person, quite ahead of his time in a lot of ways

    • @thetruequeen644
      @thetruequeen644 5 лет назад +4

      I was born in 1957 and in those days blacks didn't have any rights to much of anything, this I remember and we were segregated back then but this man was so gifted and I know he faced many many adversities but he had a much greater ambition and determination to allow any of it hold him down or dictate to him who he could be, where he was going and what he could achieve. God bless U Mr Sammy Davis Jr U opened the doors for many blacks to follow and U r so very much appreciated in love, gratitude and respect.

    • @jaajaarogers9101
      @jaajaarogers9101 5 лет назад +2

      The true Queen yes his highly intelligent and talented , but white America use blacks to make money on their talents so I disagree on that phrase that Sammy open doors for blacks , as it’s always been just blacks from the start who sing 🎶 dance 💃 act , do all entertainment but whites run the businesses this is abuse

  • @rooseveltdavis9559
    @rooseveltdavis9559 6 лет назад +23

    One of the greatest entertainers in world. The legendary Sammy Davis Jr. Young, handsome and extremely talented. R.I.P. brother Sammy.

  • @ThePapasmurf1946
    @ThePapasmurf1946 5 лет назад +17

    Overall, the most talented person in American show business that I've ever witnessed. Also he was a humanitarian and civil rights activist. A heroic person, in my book.

  • @verntv996
    @verntv996 7 лет назад +63

    Sammy Davis Jr biopic is way overdue!!!!

    • @crysdee461
      @crysdee461 6 лет назад +2

      Vertis Riles yes and I think Elijah Kelly must play him.

    • @darcyarthur1480
      @darcyarthur1480 4 года назад

      Jeremy Pope is playing him now

  • @tararobinson6023
    @tararobinson6023 5 лет назад +46

    He paid the price for every black entertainer today. He took all the pain and discrimination for them. I appreciate my ancestors...those who came before us and laid down in order for us to stand in our power today. We're not where we should be...but we are not where we use to be because of GREATNESS LIKE SAMMY DAVIS JR

    • @jasonpeng33
      @jasonpeng33 3 года назад +2

      Very well said!

    • @nicklh186
      @nicklh186 3 года назад +3

      Your first two sentences nearly brought me to tears, sister. That is so true 😢💔

    • @pennylan6466
      @pennylan6466 2 года назад

      His net worth was .5 million dollars…. Way more than most.

    • @luizamariaxavier8321
      @luizamariaxavier8321 Год назад +1

      A genius!

    • @nadineF
      @nadineF 9 месяцев назад

      So true. Sammy doesn’t receive the credit he deserves

  • @afuwad4073
    @afuwad4073 4 года назад +11

    Amazingly eloquent and articulate.

    • @kiasky1
      @kiasky1 9 месяцев назад +1

      Why wouldn’t he be?

  • @monicaraesmith
    @monicaraesmith 7 лет назад +47

    . SAMMY HAS SO MUCH SWAGGER!!

  • @BobKnight-mm2ze
    @BobKnight-mm2ze 7 месяцев назад +1

    Thanks so much for the upload of parts 1 and 2. And for anybody out there, if you get a chance, read those 2 Sammy autobiographies, they are powerful. I think his daughter also wrote a sort of third installment from her perspective. But what a life. If you think about the baton passing from old showbiz to modern showbiz, race, religion, marriage, adoption, social/political issues, physical ability AND physical injury-so many things captured in one life.

  • @vivereper2184
    @vivereper2184 3 года назад +4

    I never cease watching Sammy Davis Junior. He was the best that ever was in entertainment.

  • @bakoliketaco
    @bakoliketaco 12 лет назад +24

    He had so much charm.

  • @thisislaflaretv5250
    @thisislaflaretv5250 7 лет назад +29

    R.I.P Brother. You ran your race well

  • @JoeWellington
    @JoeWellington  12 лет назад +12

    The idea of the show was Edward R Murrow would stay in New York and visit the stars' homes live via satelite. The idea that satelites could bring live pictures from anywhere in the country/world was a brand new idea. It was part of the excitement of the show.

  • @guidingmike2823
    @guidingmike2823 11 лет назад +15

    The one thing that is ever present in these old talk shows is the cigarette. Sadly, cigarettes (cancer) killed many of these great entertainers

    • @rockyracoon3233
      @rockyracoon3233 5 лет назад +2

      Yes, Sammy along with Bogart and John Wayne.:'(

  • @amandalively1
    @amandalively1 9 лет назад +28

    He always dressed well.

  • @dalebaker9109
    @dalebaker9109 7 лет назад +27

    totally talented, and so very very young! I feel so sorry, for all the rubbish he had to put up with! but people, can be so cruel and narrow minded. he let that great talent shine out, and silenced the idiots.

  • @Starthur41
    @Starthur41 12 лет назад +48

    Everyone from the 50's has "that voice"

    • @Regimeshifts
      @Regimeshifts 6 лет назад +10

      I was actually wondering whether it was the recording devices of the time because every damn person speaks "that way"

    • @skyllarrk
      @skyllarrk 6 лет назад +10

      To my knowledge, that "ring" you hear in the voice *is* slightly due to the recording equipment! Look up videos of people from now trying out old recording machinery, and it makes them sound "that way" that I believe that you mean, too.

    • @spaciousgrace3816
      @spaciousgrace3816 5 лет назад +4

      They used to read . A lot . It’s that simple

    • @anthjacks
      @anthjacks 4 года назад +1

      Because they all have 💨💨💨

    • @doesitmatter6015
      @doesitmatter6015 3 года назад

      It's called a mid-atlantic/transatlantic accent. But the audio quality has a little bit of an effect too.

  • @capjoartist1200
    @capjoartist1200 13 лет назад +11

    A TRUE LEGEND
    A UNIQUE MAN
    R.I.P.

  • @rooseveltdavis9559
    @rooseveltdavis9559 6 лет назад +14

    Sammy was a cool cat. Enough said.

  • @1041normalguy
    @1041normalguy 7 лет назад +23

    They should make a Sammy Movie.

    • @letsif
      @letsif 6 лет назад +1

      There's no one who could dupli ate his multi genius talent

    • @spicyhot2552
      @spicyhot2552 5 лет назад +1

      I think a Sammy Davis Jr. movie is long over due.

    • @rdwrdw3672
      @rdwrdw3672 4 года назад +1

      He's too multi faceted

  • @rdwrdw3672
    @rdwrdw3672 4 года назад +13

    He was a good looking man

    • @mrgivins9690
      @mrgivins9690 Год назад

      This man said the same thing!

    • @kiasky1
      @kiasky1 9 месяцев назад

      When he was young.

  • @OGKennyLee
    @OGKennyLee 5 лет назад +6

    He spoke so eloquently...

  • @dennislackey650
    @dennislackey650 5 лет назад +4

    Mr Cool, Calm and Collect...I WILL NEVER FORGET YOU and Your Kind 💓. And your Beautiful wife May Britt. RIP

    • @kiasky1
      @kiasky1 11 месяцев назад

      No his beautiful wife Altovise.

  • @hreed3303
    @hreed3303 9 лет назад +9

    Sweet man. So talented.

  • @StarZendonna1687
    @StarZendonna1687 9 лет назад +27

    GOOD GOD!! He's so FINE!!!!

  • @MrCJ-qz9dl
    @MrCJ-qz9dl 4 года назад +3

    Sammy Davis, Jr. was the ONLY entertainer whose death announcement saddened me. I wish someone could have helped him to stop smoking.

  • @charleswinokoor6023
    @charleswinokoor6023 4 года назад +4

    His father and uncle. How about that.
    I’ve never seen those two being interviewed.

  • @Madyetmellow
    @Madyetmellow 5 лет назад

    RUclips has been mucking me about with its algorithms recently. Glad it brought this one to my recommended. Sammy is a legend

  • @Paula-nt2uc
    @Paula-nt2uc 6 лет назад +10

    Surrounded by family!

  • @thetruequeen644
    @thetruequeen644 5 лет назад +4

    Wow Sammy looks so different without glasses

  • @hmol1955
    @hmol1955 13 лет назад +4

    Sammy were on an Eddie Murphy Show, shortly before hes death. That was something very special, and just for once he led out his indignation, towards the stupidity of racism, that he experienced down through the years. Wish that somebody couldt upload that clip. Jee, what a man!

  • @tweezee
    @tweezee 15 лет назад +6

    i don't understand why sammy thought of himself as ugly. he was very handsome to me. and a great person.

    • @radiovixen76
      @radiovixen76 5 лет назад +1

      I read somewhere that men thought Sammy was ugly but women thought he was beautiful because of his magnetism. He was sexy as hell

    • @mrgivins9690
      @mrgivins9690 Год назад

      Sammy never thought that!

    • @tweezee
      @tweezee Год назад

      @@mrgivins9690 Read his autobiography

  • @MadPuppets1
    @MadPuppets1 13 лет назад +3

    its the original cribs and how classy can sammy be

  • @kiasky1
    @kiasky1 3 года назад +2

    In those days, people had manners. They were very respectful.

  • @mariaorsic9763
    @mariaorsic9763 4 года назад +6

    Sammy Davis Jr. was a saint. He had no equal. His degree of humility staggers me. Second only to his talent! He could fit the rat pack in his little toe!

  • @IsaacAsimov1992
    @IsaacAsimov1992 5 лет назад +7

    I used to think Sammy was ugly.
    But he's the opposite !

    • @capricioushorse
      @capricioushorse 4 года назад +4

      jacquelineandron Yes he was the opposite of ugly! And had a lot of charm too. I always thought he was so good looking, and when I was a little girl my mom and granny used to cut eyes at me whenever I said so!

  • @badgerrrlattin35
    @badgerrrlattin35 4 года назад +1

    Interesting camera work! I like it.

  • @miklmiklmtrcycl6009
    @miklmiklmtrcycl6009 5 лет назад +2

    Amazing man!

  • @joym9189
    @joym9189 4 года назад

    Thanks for these Videos what a pleasure to see

  • @damarcusmomm05
    @damarcusmomm05 4 года назад +4

    Chadwick Boseman could have played Sammy with no problem, but he left us extremely too soon 😢 R.I.P Chadwick 🙏🏾

    • @kiasky1
      @kiasky1 3 года назад +2

      What???? No he couldn’t

    • @simonsez1787
      @simonsez1787 Год назад

      I think a younger Tommy Davidson or Don Cheadle could have as well. But now a young buck named Elijah Kelley may be up for it and I’m excited! 🤗

    • @kiasky1
      @kiasky1 Год назад

      No he could not. Chadwick was not a good actor. People try to paint him as a great actor because he died young of cancer.

  • @fromthesidelines
    @fromthesidelines 11 лет назад +3

    There were no "satellites" in 1955. There WERE microwave relays that could beam pictures from one section of the country to another- that's how Murrow managed to sit in a comfortable studio in New York, while his "guests" were in their homes [or wherever they happened to be], interviewed live. What you didn't know was that the cameras were in those homes during most of the week, as the rooms were "blocked out", as well as the celebrities' "positions", right up to the Friday night broadcast.

    • @rockyracoon3233
      @rockyracoon3233 5 лет назад +1

      The first satellite was Telstar in 1962.

  • @Blackjesus3
    @Blackjesus3 14 лет назад +3

    YOU WERE THE MAN SAMMY

  • @janemurray1274
    @janemurray1274 6 лет назад +2

    Fabulous talent!!!

  • @bahons72
    @bahons72 5 лет назад +3

    Ed Murrow was so serious, formal and stiff.

    • @ThePapasmurf1946
      @ThePapasmurf1946 5 лет назад +1

      This "interviewing" gig was a punishment he had to endure for not "toeing the line" for Bill Paley. He was not meant to be a television host, he was a journalist, and exceptionally serious about informing the public.

  • @dionerhodes1308
    @dionerhodes1308 2 года назад

    All i cud do is smile at this b'cuz it just brought so much joy 2 my heart & love. 2 know God made him SO STRONG 2 represent his black culture. Just wonderful. 👏👏💖💖🙏🙏

  • @slabsides1
    @slabsides1 12 лет назад +4

    Wow! He did the first episode of 'Cribs' in 1955:) The reason he loved firearms so much is because of his small size and all the racism and death threats he received. Makes perfect sence to me.

  • @namastewellness
    @namastewellness 11 лет назад +2

    Where is Part 2 of 2?

  • @slabsides1
    @slabsides1 12 лет назад +6

    Too bad the I.R.S. took everything he had before they could even bury him.

  • @lendrury2771
    @lendrury2771 Год назад

    Wow what a part of entertainment history
    Sammy was quite a guy
    Talented yet very humble

  • @normanmunns4743
    @normanmunns4743 4 года назад +1

    Quit simply a lovely man
    Polite, articulate and kind ( and of course extremely talented )
    They don,t make em like that any more

  • @rayburton4867
    @rayburton4867 4 года назад +4

    Class Act!

  • @jv-ep2tc
    @jv-ep2tc 4 года назад +1

    young people now should understand that these charming and talented individuals would not have been able to check into any hotel room in Boston MA. [and in many other cities as well]

    • @ecclairmayo4153
      @ecclairmayo4153 4 года назад

      As evidenced by the way Davis consistently called the interviewer, "sir", while the interviewer called Davis by his first name. Sign of those times..

    • @yoyo2ma520
      @yoyo2ma520 3 года назад +1

      @@ecclairmayo4153 My heart broke for him when I read about how badly he was tormented during his army days by racist men in his barracks. But he got through that and was actually close to his drill sergeant who taught him how to read.

  • @ciadella1971
    @ciadella1971 3 года назад

    I wish i could of seen Sammy and The Rat Pack live....

  • @saalihah
    @saalihah 13 лет назад +4

    The Best to ever do it.

  • @newdan3469
    @newdan3469 2 года назад

    Dumb question... How did they record this interview back then? Did they prerecord the answers?

  • @eternallife2642
    @eternallife2642 6 лет назад

    such a beautiful spirit

  • @AudioInklined
    @AudioInklined 14 лет назад +2

    this is like the original "Cribs".

  • @ethanmon2672
    @ethanmon2672 6 лет назад

    Where can I find full video?

  • @eternity812
    @eternity812 10 лет назад +3

    Will Masters Sammys uncle sounds and looks a lot like Joe Jackson I wonder if they are related?

  • @CK1223
    @CK1223 16 лет назад +2

    thank u r.i.p sammy

  • @alberttatlock5237
    @alberttatlock5237 5 лет назад +4

    When you hear about all these entertainers claiming they were ripped off, and you see them living in multimillion dollar homes with private jets, large collections of expensive cars and dripping with diamonds and gold, you got to wonder how they can sit there and claimed to be hard done by.
    Sammy has never once said this and has always been brutally honest about everything, he never tried to blame other people for his drug problem or anything and has always excepted his mistakes as his own fault.
    Fun fact, Sammy was earning 500 bucks a week in the Will Matheson trio when he was a teenager, that's equal to approx $8000 A week In today's money, by the time this was made he was earning 5 times that

    • @capricioushorse
      @capricioushorse 4 года назад

      Albert Tatlock Agree! He always remained humble and kind, made it through so many hardships and some mistakes of his own making and never blamed anyone else. He always expressed gratitude for what he did have and remained true to his friends and true to himself. I heard he was about broke at the end but never heard him complaining about it.

    • @elizabethpease947
      @elizabethpease947 4 года назад

      Capricious Horse : He had a tracheotomy, He couldn’t complain. All he could do at that point was ring a bell when he needed help, and make hand signals to say what he had to say..

    • @winniejohnson5559
      @winniejohnson5559 4 года назад +1

      Albert Tatlock outstanding 👏👏

  • @Bright-It
    @Bright-It 2 года назад

    Love, love that haircut!

  • @Patsy_Parisi
    @Patsy_Parisi 4 года назад +2

    They went through 8 packs of cigarettes in half an hour.

  • @kevico2
    @kevico2 12 лет назад +1

    How was this aired? I mean this was (obviously) before "via satellite" or "SKYPE"...

  • @timothyjackson7965
    @timothyjackson7965 11 лет назад +2

    I still think they, the cigarettes, are a staple of the times and can still be 'classy' in certain situations. Depends on who/where/when it is being smoked. There is no arguing that smoking is not healthy and will most likely lead to some sort of cancer. But we all die....like Frank said, "You better love living baby, because dying is a pain in the ass!" ---that's my mantra for living. To each his own though, my friend.

    • @nickcooper1693
      @nickcooper1693 5 лет назад

      Agreed but 4 packs a day is a little much even in showbiz

    • @rockyracoon3233
      @rockyracoon3233 4 года назад

      @@nickcooper1693 4 packs in a week is too much!

  • @amyknox123
    @amyknox123 12 лет назад +1

    why are sammy and the interviewer sitting so far apart?

  • @oliverburke
    @oliverburke 9 лет назад +2

    Interesting how cigarettes are featured in this. Hanging out there, but not visibly being smoked (at least for the bit I saw). You don't see that nowadays.

    • @wilhe001
      @wilhe001 7 лет назад +3

      I knew Sammy personally. He always had s bowl of various cigarettes sitting on the coffee table for anyone to have. You would never see this today.

    • @rockyracoon3233
      @rockyracoon3233 5 лет назад

      @@wilhe001 Had he not smoked he would have lived much longer!:'(

  • @drawforyou
    @drawforyou 15 лет назад

    this is classic! Truly great show business history

  • @pagalley1
    @pagalley1 13 лет назад

    Sam's dad reminds me of Tupac Shakur...Sam was a handsome man...The car accident must've paled in comparison to Sam losing his left eye due to an accident...I've always admired Sammy as a performer, because he was so brilliant, and consistently so...Using modern references, he was kind of like the Michael Jackson of music, the Eddie Murphy of comedy and the Savion Glover of dancing...He was a triple threat..Sammy had a cigarette in hand on What's My Line? and on this show..Was he a chain-smoker?

    • @elizabethpease947
      @elizabethpease947 4 года назад

      Patrick Gallimore : He lost his left eye in the car accident in November, 1954. This interview was a year later.

  • @Twentythousandlps
    @Twentythousandlps Год назад

    Will Mastin was 46 years older than Sammy. 😮 That impromptu opening, "interrupting" Sammy, is SO stupid.

  • @creditorclass6513
    @creditorclass6513 6 лет назад +1

    Most Def for the biopic

    • @edwardwright7295
      @edwardwright7295 6 лет назад

      I was thinking Tommy Davidson from the TV show In Living Color. He gives a good impersonation of Sammy Davis jr.

  • @leetylr
    @leetylr 12 лет назад

    Totally Agree x

  • @annechris2677
    @annechris2677 2 года назад

    When you read what he went thru in the US Army...just shocking

  • @queenettajones5510
    @queenettajones5510 4 года назад

    He is so handsome ❤️❤️❤️😊😊😊

  • @marqueematthews4949
    @marqueematthews4949 5 лет назад +1

    Sammy Davis Jr.
    Was A Cool Son-A-B!÷%#..

  • @paulk7390
    @paulk7390 6 лет назад +1

    He has his family in his life, that's the problem with kids is they have no fathers, barely mothers and a 28 year old grandmother. Doesn't matter if your black, it's the lack of family that's the problem.

  • @thedarksideoftheforce6658
    @thedarksideoftheforce6658 4 года назад

    He was 29 during this about to turn 30.

  • @sunnybeeSue
    @sunnybeeSue 11 лет назад

    i remember watching the Brando Mansion episode

  • @speedoflite1
    @speedoflite1 9 лет назад

    fav part: what kind of gun? lol...then you hear a SHOT!

  • @drobiness
    @drobiness 10 лет назад +11

    The interviewer was a sarcastic jerk! Mocking Sammy on several occasions...

    • @ecclairmayo4153
      @ecclairmayo4153 4 года назад

      The worst part is Davis calling hin sir, while he called Dacis by his first name...but those were the times..

  • @annechris2677
    @annechris2677 2 года назад

    He took the bad accident so well

  • @MondoBeno
    @MondoBeno 13 лет назад

    What happened to his kids?

  • @jamescastro8317
    @jamescastro8317 9 лет назад +1

    H was only 30 years old right hear.

    • @felinefokus
      @felinefokus 4 года назад +1

      29

    • @elizabethpease947
      @elizabethpease947 4 года назад

      James Castro : He didn’t turn 30 until Dec.8, 1955. This was done Nov. 4, 1955. At least he has his dad and ‘uncle’ in the first part of the interview with him.

    • @ecclairmayo4153
      @ecclairmayo4153 4 года назад

      You would never know it by the way the interviewer kept calling him "boy" and referring to him in his first name. Then, Davis calls him "sir" in return. Sadly, those were the times..

  • @kiaragriffin8468
    @kiaragriffin8468 26 дней назад

    My God, he looks so handsome 🤌🏾

  • @robertbrawley5048
    @robertbrawley5048 3 года назад

    Darn it, wanted to see his collection of single action Colts. I'm not really interested in his Brooks Brothers Jacket

  • @nolanwalls9894
    @nolanwalls9894 Год назад

    Never seem this wow!!!

  • @mslgizzle
    @mslgizzle 4 года назад

    Omg so where in tf have this P2P with SAMMY DJ been HIDING AT BRO IM LIGHTWEIGHT MAD 😳😨😭😩...😍🥰💘💘

  • @celesterob7068
    @celesterob7068 7 лет назад

    Sammy's dad was a handsome man ........

  • @Briannafrancis-e9g
    @Briannafrancis-e9g 3 года назад

    How good looking was he as a young man? I noticed his dads bottom lip would curl inwards when he spoke...weird...and who else thought “wow how things have changed ...people smoking on tv in interviews...watch Johnny Carson had it all the time.

  • @manuelberroa7872
    @manuelberroa7872 Год назад

    lo único malo era esa promoción de fumar en público y lo mas irónico fue que todo murieron de ploblema del tasbasquimo

  • @felixthelmocevallosmorales41
    @felixthelmocevallosmorales41 2 года назад

    SAMMY DAVIS JR
    08 DE DICIEMBRE DE 1925
    16 DE MAYO DE 1990
    64 AÑOS

  • @Yarinahh1
    @Yarinahh1 12 лет назад +1

    He Was Great RIP

  • @garywright7826
    @garywright7826 5 лет назад +3

    Sammy was great ! I had a problem with the interviewer with that "boy" crap but it was 1955 so racism was more blantant then !

    • @suem6004
      @suem6004 4 года назад +3

      Gary Wright I wish I had a 12 room house. So much for racism. He did better than most

    • @rockyracoon3233
      @rockyracoon3233 4 года назад +1

      Gary Wright. The context and tone was not in anyway malicious.

    • @elizabethpease947
      @elizabethpease947 4 года назад +1

      Gary Wright : Maybe to Edward R. Murrow, Sammy was a ‘boy’ at 29.

    • @ecclairmayo4153
      @ecclairmayo4153 4 года назад

      And Davis kept calling him "sir"..while the interview called him by his first name. Sign of those times..

    • @ecclairmayo4153
      @ecclairmayo4153 4 года назад

      @@rockyracoon3233 - doesn't have to be. The MAN was 30 years old.

  • @SOULRELIEF22
    @SOULRELIEF22 6 лет назад

    St John 3:16! 💗

  • @MIKESOWELL
    @MIKESOWELL 13 лет назад

    @pagalley1 I think he smoked four packs a day.

  • @JoeWellington
    @JoeWellington  11 лет назад

    I had a hard time finding it myself. You'll find it at youtube here
    /watch?v=F0dp6OxCCAk&list=UUAhEXFADQ22-aD9rmeUzTmg&index=36

  • @madamerotten
    @madamerotten 9 лет назад +7

    6:21 - Note the modern computer display in front of Sammy. He was one of the first entertainers to own a personal computer.

    • @5r248
      @5r248 7 лет назад +4

      madamerotten seriously, it’s a chair.

    • @neptunes297
      @neptunes297 6 лет назад +3

      Those didn't even exist back then! 😂😂😂

    • @ecclairmayo4153
      @ecclairmayo4153 4 года назад +1

      Unmm..that's a chair

    • @JohnJones-cp4wh
      @JohnJones-cp4wh Год назад +1

      This was filmed before even transistors became the new thing.

  • @DMS5511
    @DMS5511 5 лет назад

    Sammy was a good looking man.

  • @nolanwalls9894
    @nolanwalls9894 Год назад

    Wow u amazing! Stupid as to Li es this is how it's done

  • @nunyabidness3363
    @nunyabidness3363 2 года назад

    He was Afro Latino

    • @kiasky1
      @kiasky1 11 месяцев назад

      He didn’t claim that. He called himself black American because he was reared by his father side of the family. His Cuban mother was nowhere around.