I watch your videos on Saturday mornings while sitting around drinking coffee. You truly make my morning, I do enjoy your knowledge of antique camping gear and your humor. Thank you.
Early this spring past I was trying to set up my canvas tent in the back yard. My wife asked if I wanted help and reluctantly I said ok. During the process, bless her heart, she joyfully bent two of the poles. I smiled, thanked her for helping and put the tent back in storage.
Cheer up ol Sarge!Take your time , maybe make more short videos showing your progress step by step. A 5 minute video every couple days is just as good as a 15minute every week. Take your time ,catch your breath ,we’ll be watching!
It was one of those things that had to be done by a certain time. The yard guys come by about 6:30 Monday AM. But I rally shouldn't have done it out of schedule with the stove videos, but I just love the tent. The more I got into the boxes and bags, the more excited I got. Its obviously seen some use, but by golly it was well taken care of. Thanks for watching!
Sarge, Thanks for showing us your Dickey. (lol) I am quite positive you'll get it put up and working just fine. Anyway All the Best and Be Safe and Quit Being So Stubborn!
We will be waiting for cooler weather, that's for sure. I've scrolled in on the pic of the instructions, and I see two things I did wrong. One is to stake it down on three sides the other is to open and lock the spreader bar before putting in the tent. It wouldn't fit thru the door with all four corners staked down, but with one loose I should be able to wiggle it in. Thanks for watching!
Great video. I can smell that canvas. Good to know what the box held. I imagine that car camping in the 1920's was good training for the Great Depression. My boys and I are going to spike camp (one wind solitary cape shelter for me) this weekend, get up, and chase bears. My wife makes a mean bear meatloaf. Take care and keep cool.
Yup, sometimes ya' just gotta laugh! :D Been there, done that, will undoubtedly rinse and repeat several more times! I'm not familiar with your particular tent, but our family had what I think was probably called a 10 person "Cabin" Tent with a front awning all fairly heavy canvas. We were a five person family back in the mid-sixties and it took at least two, usually three of us to put the bloomin' thing up. It was awesome and we loved it but boy, was it heavy and awkward. In a story too long to tell here, it was blown over with all of us in it, in what many of the other campers claim was a tornado. Don't know if it was or not, but the winds also shoved several trailer-campers toward the lake and rolled my canoe over a nearby hilltop. Try heaving a soggy wet canvas tent ... [seemingly FULL of water and definitely full of the half-cooked spaghetti Mom had been cooking, inside out of the pouring rain, on a coleman stove] ... to the rooftop of your mom and dad's station wagon and tying it down under my canoe! [The rest of the story involves this tow-headed kid wearing a bunch of partially cooked spaghetti into a Dairy Queen for the supper we didn't get earlier. I couldn't figure out why every one was staring at us!] My point was supposed to be that erecting an unfamiliar and heavy tent, for the first time, without instructions, in the backyard, in the hot Texas sun, when you (and I) are now both 72 ... well, next time, tag a friend for some help. Definitely gotta laugh -- with you, not at! None of us want RUclips to kill ya' either. Peace and Long Life my internet friend! Oh, yes, we did straighten some of the bent poles and set it up in our backyard to dry out. Love the smell of old (dry) canvas. Wet canvas - not so much.
Yeah when they say it only goes uphill from here, my experience is it can go down hill again or not go uphill at all. Patrick F McManus did at least one if not more stories on the umbrella tent. Someday I am going to buy a Sears canvas cabin tent. They are getting into stratosphere prices sadly. My little popup canvas motorcycle trailer that works behind a small vehicle will have to do for now.
I really can't believe the prices I see on Ebay. One of the reasons I'm so in love with this thing is that I got to my house just a shade over $300, shipping included. Dam Ebay vendors are starting at around $600 for a 50 year old tent and this one is close to 100.
Hoi Tolle Zeit. Schade dass du Noch nicht auf gebaut ist. In der Schweiz wurde Zelte gebaut. Für Pfadfinder und Camping . Aus Baumwolle Firma Spatz endliche wie in der USA Gruß Mario
Brilliant video! We want more videos and not you in hospital so please be careful. I am sort of amazed that a tent that complicated is that old! I have put up a tent around that age and it was a standard ridge pole however it did have a really good fly and awning. In my first camping history research, I mentioned in Oswald Bailey (A UK camping store brand now sadly gone) about this tent and the sales person turned around to some metal a4 paper drawers. He turned back with an original 1921 (I Think) Oswald Bailey catalogue and we found the tent pictured in it. I do have a question inspired by Traditional Bushcraft Minimalist and his new canvas trap. Have you come across as I cannot seem to find anything on these fabrics. Kephart and B S Mason both mention the fabrics Tantalite and Emeralite. Unfortunately neither of them explain what this is apart from it being the lightest fabric to use to make tents and tarps. As far as I can work out the Kephart tarp that Traditional Bushcraft Minimalist has had made should be made out of this material.
I've seen the video on that tarp and, quite frankly, am unimpressed. Other than the non-standard dimension (and 6 x 8 does seem like a good choice for overhead cover, I use a 7 x 4 that I made myself when I'm sure there's not going to be any rain, or and 8 x 8 Tentsmiths oilcloth tarp if there's a chance there will be). The leather and copper is way too overthought and adds unnecessary weight, I see no added advantage there other than for looks. In Kephart's time, ordinary 1" wide lamp wick was the more common solution for tie-outs and loops, with reenforced steel ring grommets being preferred over sewn loops. The provision for a pole in the center of the tent is ill advised, IMO, as any shelter made with 48 square footage of cover will be restrictive to begin with and the introduction of a pole in the middle further restricts the interior and makes knocking the pole over in the middle of the night more likely. The traditional solution here would be a loop on the exterior suspended from a shear frame or overhead branch. The two-pound weight is attractive, but I'd have to see the fabric before I could give an honest opinion of durability and effectiveness. If you want a tarp with similar design elements that follows traditional design, with a loop on the outside in the center of the tent, look at Tentsmiths' 7 x 7 oilcloth tarp, which has 49 square feet of coverage but weighs 1 pound more. I've been quite happy with the 8 x 8 tarp I got from them and my 7 x 4 was made using their oilskin fabric. Tantalite, Emeralite, Aberlite, Willesden and a few other fabrics mentioned in Early 20th Century literature describes not so much a fabric as it does the type of waterproof treatment of Balloon Cloth (AKA Balloon Silk) as a base fabric. The closest we come to Balloon Cloth today is 800 thread count Egyptian cotton (which I suspect may be the base fabric for the tarp you asked about). All of those brand names are essentially balloon cloth treated with chemicals that have microscopic particles suspended in a quickly evaporating liquid. Once that liquid has evaporated, the particles fill in the spaces between the threads to make it more water resistant. To my knowledge, the only traditional fabric treatment available to us today is Sunforger as the others are either too toxic or too flammable to pass muster with FDA and OSHA regulations today. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching!
@@sargevining Thanks for the quick response. Yeah I was wondering just how much lighter it would have been without the metal and leather. I actually thought they might be a type of sail cloth. It the lightweight bushcraft dream to have a natural lightweight natural fibre tarp.
I scrolled in on the pic he sent me and, yah, the spreader bars need to be open and locked before putting in the tent. The problem was that they don't fit thru the door. Turns out the secret to that is to stake down three corners instead of all four. That way you can manipulate the fabric so that the spreader will go in.
I watch your videos on Saturday mornings while sitting around drinking coffee. You truly make my morning, I do enjoy your knowledge of antique camping gear and your humor. Thank you.
Thanks for watching! Its a sign of the times, I guess. Used to be cartoons on Saturday Morning, now its old men with bad jokes.
Early this spring past I was trying to set up my canvas tent in the back yard. My wife asked if I wanted help and reluctantly I said ok. During the process, bless her heart, she joyfully bent two of the poles. I smiled, thanked her for helping and put the tent back in storage.
I'm glad it comes with two of those awning pole. Not sure if I can get this one bent back zackly right.
Your tongue in cheek humor is great! Humor and education at the same time. 😁
I really couldn't resist the literal Dad Joke gold mine this tent provided.
Thanks for watching!
Cheer up ol Sarge!Take your time , maybe make more short videos showing your progress step by step. A 5 minute video every couple days is just as good as a 15minute every week. Take your time ,catch your breath ,we’ll be watching!
It was one of those things that had to be done by a certain time. The yard guys come by about 6:30 Monday AM. But I rally shouldn't have done it out of schedule with the stove videos, but I just love the tent. The more I got into the boxes and bags, the more excited I got. Its obviously seen some use, but by golly it was well taken care of.
Thanks for watching!
Sarge, Thanks for showing us your Dickey. (lol) I am quite positive you'll get it put up and working just fine. Anyway All the Best and Be Safe and Quit Being So Stubborn!
We will be waiting for cooler weather, that's for sure. I've scrolled in on the pic of the instructions, and I see two things I did wrong. One is to stake it down on three sides the other is to open and lock the spreader bar before putting in the tent. It wouldn't fit thru the door with all four corners staked down, but with one loose I should be able to wiggle it in.
Thanks for watching!
Glad you can still show off your Dickey on RUclips.
Yes, but I'm glad I didn't show any of me trying to get my Dickey up....
@@sargevining 😂😂😂
Great video. I can smell that canvas. Good to know what the box held. I imagine that car camping in the 1920's was good training for the Great Depression. My boys and I are going to spike camp (one wind solitary cape shelter for me) this weekend, get up, and chase bears. My wife makes a mean bear meatloaf. Take care and keep cool.
How man mean bears does it take to make a meatloaf?
Yup, sometimes ya' just gotta laugh! :D Been there, done that, will undoubtedly rinse and repeat several more times!
I'm not familiar with your particular tent, but our family had what I think was probably called a 10 person "Cabin" Tent with a front awning all fairly heavy canvas. We were a five person family back in the mid-sixties and it took at least two, usually three of us to put the bloomin' thing up. It was awesome and we loved it but boy, was it heavy and awkward. In a story too long to tell here, it was blown over with all of us in it, in what many of the other campers claim was a tornado. Don't know if it was or not, but the winds also shoved several trailer-campers toward the lake and rolled my canoe over a nearby hilltop. Try heaving a soggy wet canvas tent ... [seemingly FULL of water and definitely full of the half-cooked spaghetti Mom had been cooking, inside out of the pouring rain, on a coleman stove] ... to the rooftop of your mom and dad's station wagon and tying it down under my canoe! [The rest of the story involves this tow-headed kid wearing a bunch of partially cooked spaghetti into a Dairy Queen for the supper we didn't get earlier. I couldn't figure out why every one was staring at us!]
My point was supposed to be that erecting an unfamiliar and heavy tent, for the first time, without instructions, in the backyard, in the hot Texas sun, when you (and I) are now both 72 ... well, next time, tag a friend for some help. Definitely gotta laugh -- with you, not at! None of us want RUclips to kill ya' either. Peace and Long Life my internet friend!
Oh, yes, we did straighten some of the bent poles and set it up in our backyard to dry out. Love the smell of old (dry) canvas. Wet canvas - not so much.
This IS going to be a great tent for Living History as its roomy as all get out in there. Maybe with stronger language next time----
Yeah when they say it only goes uphill from here, my experience is it can go down hill again or not go uphill at all. Patrick F McManus did at least one if not more stories on the umbrella tent. Someday I am going to buy a Sears canvas cabin tent. They are getting into stratosphere prices sadly. My little popup canvas motorcycle trailer that works behind a small vehicle will have to do for now.
I really can't believe the prices I see on Ebay. One of the reasons I'm so in love with this thing is that I got to my house just a shade over $300, shipping included. Dam Ebay vendors are starting at around $600 for a 50 year old tent and this one is close to 100.
Hoi Tolle Zeit. Schade dass du Noch nicht auf gebaut ist. In der Schweiz wurde Zelte gebaut. Für Pfadfinder und Camping . Aus Baumwolle Firma Spatz endliche wie in der USA Gruß Mario
We'll get it up soon. I hope to get the Instructions in the mail soon.
Thanks for watching!
at 4.03 that's an interesting looking stove, with oven ? I'm guessing it's gasoline powered
Yah, that's not mine (But I wish it was). IIRC its an early KampKook with oven and windscreen. Damfine stoves.
Brilliant video! We want more videos and not you in hospital so please be careful. I am sort of amazed that a tent that complicated is that old! I have put up a tent around that age and it was a standard ridge pole however it did have a really good fly and awning. In my first camping history research, I mentioned in Oswald Bailey (A UK camping store brand now sadly gone) about this tent and the sales person turned around to some metal a4 paper drawers. He turned back with an original 1921 (I Think) Oswald Bailey catalogue and we found the tent pictured in it.
I do have a question inspired by Traditional Bushcraft Minimalist and his new canvas trap. Have you come across as I cannot seem to find anything on these fabrics. Kephart and B S Mason both mention the fabrics Tantalite and Emeralite. Unfortunately neither of them explain what this is apart from it being the lightest fabric to use to make tents and tarps. As far as I can work out the Kephart tarp that Traditional Bushcraft Minimalist has had made should be made out of this material.
I've seen the video on that tarp and, quite frankly, am unimpressed. Other than the non-standard dimension (and 6 x 8 does seem like a good choice for overhead cover, I use a 7 x 4 that I made myself when I'm sure there's not going to be any rain, or and 8 x 8 Tentsmiths oilcloth tarp if there's a chance there will be).
The leather and copper is way too overthought and adds unnecessary weight, I see no added advantage there other than for looks. In Kephart's time, ordinary 1" wide lamp wick was the more common solution for tie-outs and loops, with reenforced steel ring grommets being preferred over sewn loops.
The provision for a pole in the center of the tent is ill advised, IMO, as any shelter made with 48 square footage of cover will be restrictive to begin with and the introduction of a pole in the middle further restricts the interior and makes knocking the pole over in the middle of the night more likely. The traditional solution here would be a loop on the exterior suspended from a shear frame or overhead branch. The two-pound weight is attractive, but I'd have to see the fabric before I could give an honest opinion of durability and effectiveness.
If you want a tarp with similar design elements that follows traditional design, with a loop on the outside in the center of the tent, look at Tentsmiths' 7 x 7 oilcloth tarp, which has 49 square feet of coverage but weighs 1 pound more. I've been quite happy with the 8 x 8 tarp I got from them and my 7 x 4 was made using their oilskin fabric.
Tantalite, Emeralite, Aberlite, Willesden and a few other fabrics mentioned in Early 20th Century literature describes not so much a fabric as it does the type of waterproof treatment of Balloon Cloth (AKA Balloon Silk) as a base fabric. The closest we come to Balloon Cloth today is 800 thread count Egyptian cotton (which I suspect may be the base fabric for the tarp you asked about). All of those brand names are essentially balloon cloth treated with chemicals that have microscopic particles suspended in a quickly evaporating liquid. Once that liquid has evaporated, the particles fill in the spaces between the threads to make it more water resistant. To my knowledge, the only traditional fabric treatment available to us today is Sunforger as the others are either too toxic or too flammable to pass muster with FDA and OSHA regulations today.
Hope that helps. Thanks for watching!
@@sargevining Thanks for the quick response. Yeah I was wondering just how much lighter it would have been without the metal and leather. I actually thought they might be a type of sail cloth. It the lightweight bushcraft dream to have a natural lightweight natural fibre tarp.
Those instructions did not strike me as being intuitive. Getting the spreader bars up and out of the way FIRST seems to be just part of the 'mystery.'
I scrolled in on the pic he sent me and, yah, the spreader bars need to be open and locked before putting in the tent. The problem was that they don't fit thru the door. Turns out the secret to that is to stake down three corners instead of all four. That way you can manipulate the fabric so that the spreader will go in.