Just thinking you could maybe date the thermostat on the stove, that may give you a better idea. Sorry if I just said something stupid or obvious but it was my first thought.
Nothing stupid about that. I did look to see if there was a maker mark or patent on the thermometer and got bupkis. I might try an image search. I call it a stovetop oven, but I don’t even know if that's what it was called at the time. Thanks for watching !
You might be able to search 'roaster' instead of oven. The dimples on the lid remind me of Dutch oven lids designed to baste meats as they cook. I don't remember anything like this oven in the fifties, and I think my dad had one of everything! I do remember my grandma's bread pans being folded like yours.
Most of the graduations on the temperature gauge are for custard, cookies, bread, etc, but there is one for beef and the highest temp is labeled "broil", so its a possibility that it was likely marketed as a "do all" kind of thing.
You come up with some real rarities (sigh...) After a good bit of amateur surfing, I found the L&H baker roaster, a vintage item with the type of sheet steel construction your item has. That is about where the similarity ends since L&H has a fancy brass nameplate on one end and does not have a dimpled top or a built-in thermometer. I also tried searching using the thermometer style; again with no joy.
If you scroll down the comments, you'll see where another commenter gave me an idea of how to search: the location of the Ebay vendor, Winchester, NH. Based on the theory that he bought it at a garage or estate sale (in NH they call them barn sales) we can surmise that it was either manufactured or sold somewhere in New England. It ain't much to go on, but its a start.
There are likely others out there, but it woukd be easier to find them if we knew where they were made and sold. Wherever that is, they will be in antique stores and estate sales. You just gave me an idea...I need to go back and look at where the Ebay vendor I bought this from is located. That's a place to start. Thanks for watching and thanks for jogging my mind!
Could it be an English oven? I say that because of the listings on the thermometer. I believe in the 1930s or 1940s in rural areas they had parafin stoves that looked like they had what we would call oil lamp style heating elements. I saw a range/hob like that on the War Time Farm series.
I went back and checked the location of the Ebay vendor whom I bought this from. He sells out of Winchester, NH. Based on the theory that he bought it at a yard or estate sale and the original owner bought it locally, and up until 60 years ago most manufacturing and marketing was done regionally, we have a place to start. Right now, I'm looking at stove manufacturers in NH from the late 19th to middle 20th centuries. There were a surprising number of them in the late 19th century and some of them would have survived long enough to market into the 1950s, so I'm starting there.
Yes, and didn't come up with much. But now I'm searching using the location of the Ebay vendor (Winchester, NH) based on the theory that he bought it at a yard or estate sale and the original owner bought it locally, and up until 60 years ago most manufacturing and marketing was done regionally. There was a surprising number of stove manufacturers in NH in the late 19th century and some of them may have survived into the 1950s.
Nice I think it was made local lol but I had a old colman oven ly I seen some like that in a book I try it with ot it had no gage got too hot and burned my cinnamon buns lol I had old colmans oven the gage was out of it I bought one and put on the door it work great well I mis place it😢
Yah, it was because of the thermometer that I bought it. You can make these out of two bread pans but, as you said, there's no way of telling temperature. Thanks for watching!
I think your little stove would not be a “premium” which is an old advertising gimmick. Dictionary definition (something given free or at a reduced price with the purchase of a product or service) You don’t see premiums much anymore. the free toaster you get from the bank when you open an account, the candy dish you received from the grocery store with a purchase of a certain amount of groceries. or the toy you got with so many box tops of breakfast cereal. I maybe wrong but it sounds like your stove was a straight up purchase, promoted on the tv show.
Yes, you're correct. These were advertised on the back of cereal boxes and comic books. "Premium" is the wrong words, but I can't think of what the right one is. Thanks for watching!
Just thinking you could maybe date the thermostat on the stove, that may give you a better idea. Sorry if I just said something stupid or obvious but it was my first thought.
Nothing stupid about that. I did look to see if there was a maker mark or patent on the thermometer and got bupkis. I might try an image search. I call it a stovetop oven, but I don’t even know if that's what it was called at the time.
Thanks for watching !
Thanks Sarge a very interesting video!
Thanks for watching, glad you found some content interesting. We'll try and do some more like it.
You might be able to search 'roaster' instead of oven. The dimples on the lid remind me of Dutch oven lids designed to baste meats as they cook. I don't remember anything like this oven in the fifties, and I think my dad had one of everything! I do remember my grandma's bread pans being folded like yours.
Most of the graduations on the temperature gauge are for custard, cookies, bread, etc, but there is one for beef and the highest temp is labeled "broil", so its a possibility that it was likely marketed as a "do all" kind of thing.
You come up with some real rarities (sigh...) After a good bit of amateur surfing, I found the L&H baker roaster, a vintage item with the type of sheet steel construction your item has. That is about where the similarity ends since L&H has a fancy brass nameplate on one end and does not have a dimpled top or a built-in thermometer. I also tried searching using the thermometer style; again with no joy.
The info is out there. Maybe I should focus less on muffins and more on researching stovetop ovens.
@@sargevining Your friends expect the muffins! The name and vintage of the baker is just 'by-the-way.'
I also am joining the "What's that stove" internet army. I've got AI bots scouring the internet for anything that resembles the stove in question.
If you scroll down the comments, you'll see where another commenter gave me an idea of how to search: the location of the Ebay vendor, Winchester, NH. Based on the theory that he bought it at a garage or estate sale (in NH they call them barn sales) we can surmise that it was either manufactured or sold somewhere in New England. It ain't much to go on, but its a start.
U must have the only one I searched for and hour and could not find it
There are likely others out there, but it woukd be easier to find them if we knew where they were made and sold. Wherever that is, they will be in antique stores and estate sales.
You just gave me an idea...I need to go back and look at where the Ebay vendor I bought this from is located. That's a place to start. Thanks for watching and thanks for jogging my mind!
Could it be an English oven? I say that because of the listings on the thermometer. I believe in the 1930s or 1940s in rural areas they had parafin stoves that looked like they had what we would call oil lamp style heating elements. I saw a range/hob like that on the War Time Farm series.
I went back and checked the location of the Ebay vendor whom I bought this from. He sells out of Winchester, NH. Based on the theory that he bought it at a yard or estate sale and the original owner bought it locally, and up until 60 years ago most manufacturing and marketing was done regionally, we have a place to start. Right now, I'm looking at stove manufacturers in NH from the late 19th to middle 20th centuries. There were a surprising number of them in the late 19th century and some of them would have survived long enough to market into the 1950s, so I'm starting there.
have you tried searching by image ?
Yes, and didn't come up with much. But now I'm searching using the location of the Ebay vendor (Winchester, NH) based on the theory that he bought it at a yard or estate sale and the original owner bought it locally, and up until 60 years ago most manufacturing and marketing was done regionally. There was a surprising number of stove manufacturers in NH in the late 19th century and some of them may have survived into the 1950s.
Nice I think it was made local lol but I had a old colman oven
ly I seen some like that in a book I try it with ot it had no gage got too hot and burned my cinnamon buns lol I had old colmans oven the gage was out of it I bought one and put on the door it work great well I mis place it😢
Yah, it was because of the thermometer that I bought it. You can make these out of two bread pans but, as you said, there's no way of telling temperature.
Thanks for watching!
See if research the themonter
I think your little stove would not be a “premium” which is an old advertising gimmick. Dictionary definition (something given free or at a reduced price with the purchase of a product or service) You don’t see premiums much anymore. the free toaster you get from the bank when you open an account, the candy dish you received from the grocery store with a purchase of a certain amount of
groceries. or the toy you got with so many box tops of breakfast cereal. I maybe wrong but it sounds like your stove was
a straight up purchase, promoted on the tv show.
Yes, you're correct. These were advertised on the back of cereal boxes and comic books. "Premium" is the wrong words, but I can't think of what the right one is.
Thanks for watching!