Nah nah nah he knew damn well with that whole, how do I put this, him hitting the ground as it was a earthquake which his punch somehow cancelled out. Yujiro was and will forever will be broken
Before you call me crazy, hear me out. I believe that the author is either in love with, or obsessed with his own creation: Yujiro. Think about it. Yujiro is basically a god amongst ants in this universe, but it always wasn't so. Over time, he has been getting more and more absurd. Yujiro now considers men to be women because his testosterone is just that much higher than everyone else's. It is ridiculous.
I’ve always found the side characters like Doppo and Shibukawa more interesting than the Hanma’s, besides Jack. Cool to see you do a video for the main karate man himself.
A lot of people forgot about Doppo saying that Yuichiro doesn't bother blocking strikes because they aren't worth his time. Prime Doppo's kick didn't even make Yuichiro flinch, he was just talking shit.
I think Yuichiro wanted to get hit by doppo to feel a real attack (compared to Rikigouzan's attack) and he wanted to test how strong doppo was to entertain himself.
I'm really glad you made this video because I really respect doppo orochi and ans his karate. He took on yujiro and yuichiro and lived to tell the tale and he took on a tiger. I definitely would put him in like my top 15
Jack calling out Doppo was hillarious, "Can your karate handle biting?" No, it definetly cannot, barehand killing an adult tiger who was as agressive as possible due to being hungry most certainly doesn´t count as handling biting...
@@BIGDADDYRAGE but you gotta rember, the Orochi that defeated the Tiger was much MUCH weaker than the current Orochi, so I'd say he and Katsumi have a fair shot at defeating Jack.
I’ve thought Doppo to be absolutely adorable since the Original Baki OVA of the 90s. He’s been my favorite character since and I’m always happy when it’s his turn to fight.
Younger Doppo put more faith in his physical abilities compared to current Doppo who relies on his experience and technique more. I think his loss vs Shibukawa due to 2 years of experience opened his eye(s) to the idea that technique is more important then he used to think. Current Doppo might not be physically stronger then Prime Doppo but if they where to fight current Doppo would whipe the floor with his Prime self.
Since Yuichiro Hanma said "im glad someone knows how strong I am" we can assume that was him before fighting the us military so he probably got a lot stronger.
Imagine if Doppo somehow gets his eye back and pulls the sharingan like move lol. If the series managed to revive Musashi Miyamoto, I'm sure that Doppo could somehow get an eye transplant or a mechanical eye.
Has anyone read the manga Garouden? It's a series that was illustrated by Keisuke Itagaki. The character doppo was facing in the black gi was Jumei Kuga who is a character in that manga. Y'all should read it
Doppo is definitely at his peak now. He even stated it before his battle with Yujiro. He said this will be his last battle at physical peak. Obviously he came back from the dead, and is even stronger now.
I disagree with some points . First the age thing. Wolfgang translations suck but it’s been years since then and it’s clear that he was aging and that it affects his prime .Yeah shibuwaka’s experience won him the match but his fighting style differs significantly. For certain fighters like shibuwaka and kaiou Kaku the loss of strength from age doesn’t matter at all while for someone using karate like Doppo aging is a loss. The yujiro Doppo fought was far weaker than the one we have now . The loss of an eye isn’t much of a cost for a fighter of doppo’s level but it is one against a similarly skilled opponent and something he has to compensate for . And experience does matter too. But Katsumi at the time was brash and one important point is they’re using the same fighting style. Sure she does affect to a degree but experience when using the same style is far more important in that context. And Doppo did increase his experience and techniques. So Doppo in his prime has better physical speed and reaction as well as one eye but Doppo has gained more techniques and skill . And if they fought the older Doppo with his complete form might win since it’s the same style but against other opponents Doppo with both eyes and at his peak physically would have an advantage. But in reality the timeline in Baki doesn’t make any sense. Also if that’s true then why does anyone use any of the feats for Baki fighting yujiro . Bakis sumo opponent countered his cockroach dash and threw Baki right after. Does that mean he’s above Yujiro no of course not. Also yujio didn’t even try to stop or counter it. Also his pre cognitive doesn’t seem to be at a super high level like Kuroki’s was.
I still think it’s funny that the only lasting injury Doppo seems to have suffered is losing his eye. The man lost a HAND and got it back in time to have a rematch with the guy who did it before he even left the country.
I think the biggest problem with power scaling with this series and even ones like kengan are that and keep in mind this is just from my martial arts experience. Is that there really is no true prime there are points were biologically speaking you may have more stamina or physical strength but in terms of actual martial ability much like the kegan character hatsumi sen it really more so depends on intensity of one's environment. For instance people always talk about how mike tyson in his younger years was an absolute monster forgetting the fact that at this point in time the environment and opponent caliber he faced at that age was at a more intensive and rapid level. And I think the same could be said for most fighters if your just drilling with lack luster folks that aren't constantly stimulating you mentally and physically with large gaps of time in-between true challenges it only makes sense that even a pro can fall to a newbie
Was sitting for this one for ages you would always drop hints at how your making a video to highlight the fact he is stronger now than ever. He would Have to be too stay current though. And other strong old characters like speck exist I always thought the same too xx
People deed to stop using concepts like physical prime or youth and apply them on a dam manga, shhiiit to a degree physical stats don’t mean a dam thing, Itagaki changes everything on a whim to facilitate his narrative, one day a character is highly superhuman the next he’s getting slapped around.
To be honest I wouldn’t say Doppo right now is any stronger than the version that fought Yujiro. He’s a better fighter, but his body is as he said slower, weaker etc. Katsumi low diffed him, Musashi low diffed him, Ali Jr kinda low-mid diffed him (second fight was when he had already been packed). He’s done a few training arcs since his introduction but in my opinion he’s never reached the same level as he used to be e.g. pulverising that concrete pipe and not losing instantly to Basejuro
Back then, Yujiro was just the strongest, but people like Doppo could put up a fight against him. Nowadays, Yujiro is like a God among weaklings and even hitting him is considered special. The author just loves Yujiro and makes him stronger with each chapter. 😂
I think you misunderstand some points. Finishing personal style doesn't mean being at the strongest level afterwards, I think "Prime" Doppo was the strongest because he had a good balance between experience and strength. Karate is not like Aikido, you use your own strength when you move, so no matter how much you learn, you will weaken over time.
What If Doppo Orochi switched with the turtles for 1 week Can Doppo Orochi defend the streets of NY from Shredder and the footclan before things goes back to where they used to be? I know its out of context but im just curious how a Young, Prime and Current Doppo would fare against Shredder and the footclan but without the mutant character like beebop and rocksteady just the human footclan and shredder
we know hes been training at the age of like 5 and he stated that hes been training karate for 50 years so it puts him around 55 hes pretty much passed his prime after the fight with yujiro but then mother fucker achieved the true seiken punch in his fight with shibukawa, then he even brung it to another level and if you watched his fight with dorian you know then you know hes pretty much stronger by now
Absolutely nothing supports that. The only reason people think young doppo is stronge ris because some guy posted a video with "prime doppo" in the title
I think he'll beat Jack. Ain't no way jacks biting force is stronger than a tigers. Lions yes cause lions are pretty weak on the biting scale. But tigers? Tigers ain't shit to fuck with
Ok a few things: 1: you really overestimate the “getting stronger over time” Baki clowned on Pickle due to his techniques. Not anything about training. Baki hasn’t shown any strength feats that put him above Oliva’s raw power after their fight. And this is shown when Baki tried to fight pickle with just brute force and got rofl stomped Yujiro hasn’t shown a dramatic increase in power either. Again, no evidence other than a vague statement. He could’ve gotten .003% stronger while every gets .00000000000001% percent stronger Musashi also didn’t destroy pickle. Pickle was being relatively not effected by Musahsi’s sword strikes cause of his musculature. He ran away cause he got scared but if pickle just rushed Musashi after he knocked him out in the first part of the fight, he would’ve won. My main critique of you is that you need to incorporate more critical thinking into your scaling. As it seems you’re taking everything at face value
Yeah. Also the use of countering the cockroach dash. Yujiro didn’t try to counter it but just enjoyed the fight. Also she doesn’t really matter as much to shibukawa and Kaku due to their fighting styles.
@@yeboiyeboi9784 You have the same issue the video creator in that you’re really taking everything at face value. First, the father son fight: Yujiro demonstrated multiple times that he was not taking that fight seriously. He literally flexed his way out of most of Baki’s attempts. He literally left Baki broken on the floor while Yujiro took superficial damage only. So, yes, Yujiro had the power to knock out Baki in one hit if he really wanted to kill Baki. This is cause if Yujiro wanted to kill Baki, he would’ve killed him once he was immobile. There’s absolutely not evidence of Baki or Yujiro becoming stronger than Pickle’s raw power. Again, show me feats and I’ll agree. But Yujiro has only fought Musashi, but that doesn’t mean he has more raw power. Neither does this mean Baki has more raw power cause once again, Baki didn’t beat him in a battle of brute force or shown any strength feats that scale to Pickle’s. Feats and critical thinking >>>>>>> relying on vague character statements at face value Yujiro has obviously shown more growth from the maximum tournament to now but he hasn’t shown really any growth from the prisoner arc to now. There’s quite literally no feats that support this. And vague character statements don’t mean anything.
There are barely any baki RUclipsrs since it relies mostly on fight choreography. If the series you like are so good I would expect someone to care enough to make a channel analyzing it. Why don't you go watch those.
Watching & thinking results in a good comment ✔🙏🐸👍👽
Who next??
Awesome
can dopo beat oliva
Could you do a how strong is Katsumi
How strong is Jun Guevara
Katsumi
I think when the author wrote the yujiro vs doppo fight, he didn’t yet realize how insane he would end up making yujiro.
Nah nah nah he knew damn well with that whole, how do I put this, him hitting the ground as it was a earthquake which his punch somehow cancelled out. Yujiro was and will forever will be broken
@@L1NE_C00K1NG nah I think he’s right
@@L1NE_C00K1NG Na he’s completely right, for crying out loud Yujiro back then got put down by tranquilizers and a dam net.
Yujiro gets stronger with age
Before you call me crazy, hear me out. I believe that the author is either in love with, or obsessed with his own creation: Yujiro. Think about it.
Yujiro is basically a god amongst ants in this universe, but it always wasn't so. Over time, he has been getting more and more absurd. Yujiro now considers men to be women because his testosterone is just that much higher than everyone else's.
It is ridiculous.
I’ve always found the side characters like Doppo and Shibukawa more interesting than the Hanma’s, besides Jack. Cool to see you do a video for the main karate man himself.
Truuu
They actually stick to their skills and don't fish Hanma blood out off their ass to win each time which i like.
yeah i find baki himself boring af, i was rooting for yujiro in the father vs son arc lol
@@greener2497 same
I watched the netflix dub and he's voiced by Wolverine.
God jesus that was so cool.
A lot of people forgot about Doppo saying that Yuichiro doesn't bother blocking strikes because they aren't worth his time. Prime Doppo's kick didn't even make Yuichiro flinch, he was just talking shit.
I really hope we get more yuichiro stuff in the future
You realize he broke his jaw right?
I think Yuichiro wanted to get hit by doppo to feel a real attack (compared to Rikigouzan's attack) and he wanted to test how strong doppo was to entertain himself.
@@thatguyjimbo1834 cuz he let hit him..if he fought back that be a different story but letting somebody hit u dont mean shyt
@@thatguyjimbo1834 No, he didnt. This is exactly what the commenter was referring to. He was saying yuichiro was trolling with his little comment.
“these are the punches of someone who has dedicated his whole life to karate.”
God I love Doppo.
I'm really glad you made this video because I really respect doppo orochi and ans his karate. He took on yujiro and yuichiro and lived to tell the tale and he took on a tiger. I definitely would put him in like my top 15
“And tigers he’s good at that” got a harder laugh out of me than it should’ve
👁👁
Jack calling out Doppo was hillarious, "Can your karate handle biting?"
No, it definetly cannot, barehand killing an adult tiger who was as agressive as possible due to being hungry most certainly doesn´t count as handling biting...
nope
Jack biting above tigers..
@@BIGDADDYRAGE but you gotta rember, the Orochi that defeated the Tiger was much MUCH weaker than the current Orochi, so I'd say he and Katsumi have a fair shot at defeating Jack.
A tiger is a little kitty compared to jack lol
Pretty sure Jack has a more powerful bite than a tiger 💀
I’ve thought Doppo to be absolutely adorable since the Original Baki OVA of the 90s. He’s been my favorite character since and I’m always happy when it’s his turn to fight.
I started karate because of doppo orochi, found a legit brick breaking and eye gouging street karate guy who teaches in my new hometown. Love karate
Younger Doppo put more faith in his physical abilities compared to current Doppo who relies on his experience and technique more.
I think his loss vs Shibukawa due to 2 years of experience opened his eye(s) to the idea that technique is more important then he used to think.
Current Doppo might not be physically stronger then Prime Doppo but if they where to fight current Doppo would whipe the floor with his Prime self.
I'm telling you guys, sometimes you gotta stop the power scaling mathematics, and just read the manga.
I can't math 🙃
Since Yuichiro Hanma said "im glad someone knows how strong I am" we can assume that was him before fighting the us military so he probably got a lot stronger.
Imagine if Doppo somehow gets his eye back and pulls the sharingan like move lol.
If the series managed to revive Musashi Miyamoto, I'm sure that Doppo could somehow get an eye transplant or a mechanical eye.
The piccolo of baki
Sooo true LMAO
Doppo best waifu
@@mrpizzathe3rd69yearsago8 nooooo that's Retsu
@@aaryayt7747 nah katsumi better but doppo best
haha yes
I always try to pay attention when you mention Doppo in other videos but man he's lowkey broken he's the definition of never give up.🔥
never ending grind
@@mysteriousweeb 👑🐸
Orochi is one of the top tiers and deserves respect I also think his strongest self is the current Baki Dou 2018 version.
noice
I honestly don’t care how strong Doppo is I just love him as a character because no matter who it is he never ducks the smoke from anybody
Has anyone read the manga Garouden? It's a series that was illustrated by Keisuke Itagaki. The character doppo was facing in the black gi was Jumei Kuga who is a character in that manga. Y'all should read it
I like how Baki straight up inherited his Grandfather Yuchiro's eyes/eyebrows while Jack inherited Yujiro's eyebrows/eyes.
Doppo is one of my top favorite characters in baki
Doppo is definitely at his peak now. He even stated it before his battle with Yujiro. He said this will be his last battle at physical peak. Obviously he came back from the dead, and is even stronger now.
Watch the video again
@@zelly600 Am i missing something?
Great video!!
The God Hand of War👀🔥👊
Bro i appreciate the content , I dropped a like 👍
Glad to hear it
I disagree with some points . First the age thing. Wolfgang translations suck but it’s been years since then and it’s clear that he was aging and that it affects his prime .Yeah shibuwaka’s experience won him the match but his fighting style differs significantly. For certain fighters like shibuwaka and kaiou Kaku the loss of strength from age doesn’t matter at all while for someone using karate like Doppo aging is a loss. The yujiro Doppo fought was far weaker than the one we have now . The loss of an eye isn’t much of a cost for a fighter of doppo’s level but it is one against a similarly skilled opponent and something he has to compensate for . And experience does matter too. But Katsumi at the time was brash and one important point is they’re using the same fighting style. Sure she does affect to a degree but experience when using the same style is far more important in that context. And Doppo did increase his experience and techniques. So Doppo in his prime has better physical speed and reaction as well as one eye but Doppo has gained more techniques and skill . And if they fought the older Doppo with his complete form might win since it’s the same style but against other opponents Doppo with both eyes and at his peak physically would have an advantage. But in reality the timeline in Baki doesn’t make any sense. Also if that’s true then why does anyone use any of the feats for Baki fighting yujiro . Bakis sumo opponent countered his cockroach dash and threw Baki right after. Does that mean he’s above Yujiro no of course not. Also yujio didn’t even try to stop or counter it. Also his pre cognitive doesn’t seem to be at a super high level like Kuroki’s was.
Orochi is at his strongest in the current timeline of baki 2018 also rip i think he will just be Food for kehaya Like Oliva was for sukune
Doppo is dope
i want to see the blind man fight someone else then doppo
he was interesting
I still think it’s funny that the only lasting injury Doppo seems to have suffered is losing his eye. The man lost a HAND and got it back in time to have a rematch with the guy who did it before he even left the country.
He broke that jaw, dammmmmmmm :)
Doppo you are so strong and cool
True
Finally
Even the author did not realise at the time how op he would make Yujiro 😂
I think the biggest problem with power scaling with this series and even ones like kengan are that and keep in mind this is just from my martial arts experience. Is that there really is no true prime there are points were biologically speaking you may have more stamina or physical strength but in terms of actual martial ability much like the kegan character hatsumi sen it really more so depends on intensity of one's environment. For instance people always talk about how mike tyson in his younger years was an absolute monster forgetting the fact that at this point in time the environment and opponent caliber he faced at that age was at a more intensive and rapid level. And I think the same could be said for most fighters if your just drilling with lack luster folks that aren't constantly stimulating you mentally and physically with large gaps of time in-between true challenges it only makes sense that even a pro can fall to a newbie
In the end he is a punching bag
Genuine question because im kinda new
is there a reason your nose sounds so stuffed when recording videos?
It does?
I wished doppo was in the kaioh tournament
Doppo Uchiha makes his presence known
oh shit
Was sitting for this one for ages you would always drop hints at how your making a video to highlight the fact he is stronger now than ever.
He would Have to be too stay current though.
And other strong old characters like speck exist I always thought the same too xx
People deed to stop using concepts like physical prime or youth and apply them on a dam manga, shhiiit to a degree physical stats don’t mean a dam thing, Itagaki changes everything on a whim to facilitate his narrative, one day a character is highly superhuman the next he’s getting slapped around.
Yuichiro doesn't really bother defending against anyone because they're no threat.
Strong enough to show off if a character is strong or weak.
Examples: Musashi, Dorian and Mohamad Alai.
he even fight with pa paing from kengan
To be honest I wouldn’t say Doppo right now is any stronger than the version that fought Yujiro. He’s a better fighter, but his body is as he said slower, weaker etc. Katsumi low diffed him, Musashi low diffed him, Ali Jr kinda low-mid diffed him (second fight was when he had already been packed). He’s done a few training arcs since his introduction but in my opinion he’s never reached the same level as he used to be e.g. pulverising that concrete pipe and not losing instantly to Basejuro
Doppo orochi vs sagat battle of the eyepatches
Back then, Yujiro was just the strongest, but people like Doppo could put up a fight against him.
Nowadays, Yujiro is like a God among weaklings and even hitting him is considered special.
The author just loves Yujiro and makes him stronger with each chapter. 😂
He even fought in kenghan
2:42 lol it’s Matt Dillon
I thought he only killed one tiger while being young and kinda dumb and now regrets it
People who say doppo got weaker because he's older are the same people who say jack can't get any stronger because he's on steroids.
Its hear its really hear
Just wait till he beats jack
10000 views not even 1000 likes absolute bullshit great video didn’t even finish it yet I just know it’s great
Thank you very much 😊
We need to scale Katsumi.
I wanna see him go all out currently first
Which softwares used?
Weed.
I think you misunderstand some points.
Finishing personal style doesn't mean being at the strongest level afterwards, I think "Prime" Doppo was the strongest because he had a good balance between experience and strength. Karate is not like Aikido, you use your own strength when you move, so no matter how much you learn, you will weaken over time.
Music in the beginning pleaaaaaaase!
What If Doppo Orochi switched with the turtles for 1 week Can Doppo Orochi defend the streets of NY from Shredder and the footclan before things goes back to where they used to be? I know its out of context but im just curious how a Young, Prime and Current Doppo would fare against Shredder and the footclan but without the mutant character like beebop and rocksteady just the human footclan and shredder
How old is he now. Is he past his prime or has he arrived in his prime?
he should still be under 60
we know hes been training at the age of like 5 and he stated that hes been training karate for 50 years so it puts him around 55
hes pretty much passed his prime after the fight with yujiro but then mother fucker achieved the true seiken punch in his fight with shibukawa, then he even brung it to another level and if you watched his fight with dorian you know then you know
hes pretty much stronger by now
If the Honma blood is stronger the more pure it is then yes baki's grandfather would have been the strongest.
Just cuz a bone is broken doesn’t mean you can see it 😂
I think he got nerfed a lot recently but I dont mind it.
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@@mysteriousweeb u should do kaju no 8
@@mysteriousweeb good manga
@@mysteriousweeb u will.like the manga
i dont think so imo
Yuichiro vs pickle
i want and need more yuichiro
@@mysteriousweeb maybe when they animate the Baki vs yujiro fight they might extended his flashback
Before I watch my guess is current Doppo.🤔
:)
@@mysteriousweeb 😁
Would that mean doppo is equal to kaku kaioh ?
Perhaps
Can he beat Jack hanma?
Young doppo is the strongest and older doppo is the smartest and wisest
Absolutely nothing supports that. The only reason people think young doppo is stronge ris because some guy posted a video with "prime doppo" in the title
I'm just gonna say Dopppo should have lost to Sekiwake
I’ll tell you why Yuichiro is stronger. When he came to the final fight between Baki and Yujiro he said “ hey Second” as in Second strongest creature.
No he didn't lmao, read the manga
@@mysteriousweeb I did read the manga. What are you on about? 😂
@@DDOMINICK clearly not lmao
So he’s top 5 in the verse🤔
Nah
Doppo lost much of his hype after losing to Yujiro. Since then he is a slightly above average fighter among the Baki cast.
I think he'll beat Jack. Ain't no way jacks biting force is stronger than a tigers. Lions yes cause lions are pretty weak on the biting scale. But tigers? Tigers ain't shit to fuck with
His is, explained in my how strong is current jack vid
@@mysteriousweeb really? I could've sworn he said lions are weak but that was it. And tigers are alot stronger than lions
Ok a few things:
1: you really overestimate the “getting stronger over time”
Baki clowned on Pickle due to his techniques. Not anything about training. Baki hasn’t shown any strength feats that put him above Oliva’s raw power after their fight. And this is shown when Baki tried to fight pickle with just brute force and got rofl stomped
Yujiro hasn’t shown a dramatic increase in power either. Again, no evidence other than a vague statement. He could’ve gotten .003% stronger while every gets .00000000000001% percent stronger
Musashi also didn’t destroy pickle. Pickle was being relatively not effected by Musahsi’s sword strikes cause of his musculature. He ran away cause he got scared but if pickle just rushed Musashi after he knocked him out in the first part of the fight, he would’ve won.
My main critique of you is that you need to incorporate more critical thinking into your scaling. As it seems you’re taking everything at face value
Yeah. Also the use of countering the cockroach dash. Yujiro didn’t try to counter it but just enjoyed the fight. Also she doesn’t really matter as much to shibukawa and Kaku due to their fighting styles.
@@yeboiyeboi9784 you need to learn how to write a smaller paragraph
@@yeboiyeboi9784
You have the same issue the video creator in that you’re really taking everything at face value.
First, the father son fight:
Yujiro demonstrated multiple times that he was not taking that fight seriously. He literally flexed his way out of most of Baki’s attempts. He literally left Baki broken on the floor while Yujiro took superficial damage only. So, yes, Yujiro had the power to knock out Baki in one hit if he really wanted to kill Baki. This is cause if Yujiro wanted to kill Baki, he would’ve killed him once he was immobile.
There’s absolutely not evidence of Baki or Yujiro becoming stronger than Pickle’s raw power. Again, show me feats and I’ll agree. But Yujiro has only fought Musashi, but that doesn’t mean he has more raw power. Neither does this mean Baki has more raw power cause once again, Baki didn’t beat him in a battle of brute force or shown any strength feats that scale to Pickle’s.
Feats and critical thinking >>>>>>> relying on vague character statements at face value
Yujiro has obviously shown more growth from the maximum tournament to now but he hasn’t shown really any growth from the prisoner arc to now. There’s quite literally no feats that support this. And vague character statements don’t mean anything.
His son is walking L.
You spend to much time trying to justify bad writing
And by that i mean you should focus on better manga
There are barely any baki RUclipsrs since it relies mostly on fight choreography. If the series you like are so good I would expect someone to care enough to make a channel analyzing it. Why don't you go watch those.
You shouldn't call yourself a weeb. It's not something to be proud of.
Ok Mr. nappyheaded
I'm proud of my racial characteristic. You're proud to be a Japanese wannabe. There's a big difference.
@@nappyheaded you wot? Also it's just a channel name boss
doppo orochi is broken I think dude hits harden then olivia lol