People who scan (and those who make it possible) paper documentation, make it searchable and publish it on the web have their own special place in heaven.
I tell you, Al Kossow deserves a presidential suite in heaven for the work he does for bitsavers. Same for Ron Burkey and Mike Stewart for the herculean work they do with the Apollo archives!
I was going to suggest that CZUR adds a microfiche scanning feature, but I am not quite sure they'd follow the advice ;-) . Saving and scanning vintage doc is an everyday fight.
I would've given an arm and a leg for this 20 years ago when I was faced with a 3 week deadline for scanning a cupboard full of old philips service manuals before it was going to be destroyed. I was allowed to borrow them only for a day at a time, had no car and just an old HP scanjet at home. Some of these manuals are still the only copies on the net today.
@@ferrari2k money. The university started to charge departments per square meter. Tech support had no income of their own so the archives had to go. I got the audio stuff, never bothered with the TV schematics. I could not keep them as they were technically 'on loan' from Philips, even though they were most definitely destroyed to make space. I'd be amazed if Philips themselves made copies. A lot was lost around the early 2000s when commercialization set in.
@@RemcoStoutjesdijk that is just bad to hear... I would just think that the management changed shortly before and had that brillant idea of cost cutting?
@@ferrari2k Exactly that happened, sign of the times. The place is now a hotel and a shell of its former self. At least emptying the basement departments landed me a nice digitizing Tek 5k series plus plugins and I ate old vacuum tubes and paper/oil capacitors for several years to put me through college.
This was surely an older sheet of glass. And as everyone on the web knows, you have to recap old glass, otherwise it will explode. Simply get two sheets of metal (cut up some tin foil hats) and place them on top side and underside of your sheet of glass. Voilà!
"Maximum altitude: 25,000 feet." The old HP engineers really were more thorough with their documentation! Now a days, you get a 60 page manual... in 15 different languages, so each language gets 4 pages.
I think this would be really useful for visual artists too. Compared to taking a photo and manually cropping/skewing etc, or wrangling a sketchbook onto a flatbed, you can just stick it under this and get one or two clean images of your work. If you have a single page it’s even easier. But given it’s at a fixed distance from the table and has the laser to correct topography, that takes a lot of the work out. Potentially useful for people who prefer physical art but work in digital just for the ease of export.
15:50 Discussing the older, more-stylish version: "It must have cost them an arm and a leg to make..." Undoubtedly... it's literally an arm and a leg! Hahaha.
Based on Marc's review I ordered one...made a mistake and mistakenly thought the ET16 was a ET18 simply without the wifi capability; it's actually 2 megapixels lower in resolution. The folks at CZUR were great and simply allowed me to add in the price differential (with the 14% Curious Marc discount) and hopefully my ET18 will be here soon. Thanks Marc!
7:54 Thank the stars for tempered glass! In our house in the 70's we had sliding doors the entire wall of the living room. My sister was holding a stick and ran thru one of the panes which shattered into long shard like daggers and fell to the ground. The only thing that saved here was the stick hitting the glass first and her coming thru some milliseconds later. She had a small cut on her forehead. We stopped cleaning the glass after that so that it was obvious the doors were closed.
7:58 just like with a Prince Rupert's drop the weak point of tempered glass are the tips, in the case of the glass panes that would be the corners. You can smash a hammer on tempered glass and it won't break, but just nick one corner and it explodes. And that stuff flies everywhere. You'll probably find pieces of it over the next couple of years on occasion hiding in some corners.
@@CuriousMarc Thank you ! At last I know why and how the tempered glass shattered (you said Exploded which was intriguing to seek for scientific reason based on laser+glass interaction?!!!. It was a nice review. Thank you
Sacrificing the ergonomics of the old unit is probably the trade-off they made to make the lighting more uniform, Given how much wider the top lighting head is. And that to preserve the folding industrial design may have priced it out of the market. That is a trade-off I could live with, but it also makes it far less portable when traveling by plane or what not. But it is also significantly more expensive than the older one as well.
Great job, thanks for your archiving efforts. If you look at some of the old books scanned in the Bodleian library, you occasionally have scans of a librarian's thumb holding a page down.
We have a similar device in our archiv. except is goes up to A0+ and does the correction on the whole plane. for pricing you will have to shift two decimals and also buy quite a beefy workstation for the software to run... :-)
Marc, I think your review was terrific. The manufacurer has had some "Real World" feedback from someone who has experienced the problems that will be encountered outside the lab.....this is a goldmine for the manufacturer. If you could manually place the page divide and potentially merge scans, that would essentially deal with the challenges that emerge from those extended fold-out schematics that were popular way back then. Well done again Marc...I don't suppose you have a copy of the Service Manual for my HP 34401A do you ?
Having recently watched a Computerphile video about PDFs, there is a mode/type (I forget exactly what it's called) that will display bitmap or original images but still perform OCR to provide searchable text. The CZUR software might not support that but I'd expect some PDF authoring software would.
I thought that would be pretty much standard to just overlay the OCR text with the original image so as to not lose any information. I know that the OCR built into the (free) PDFXChange viewer does this by default.
In this regard, I'll put in a good word for Foxit what-used-to-be-called PhantomPDF, and was just renamed to "PDF Editor". I've scanned a bunch of technical manuals (using an old Canon s-l-o-w flatbed scanner), and it does a surprisingly good job of OCR-ing the text into searchable form, both in columns of text, and in drawings. Not perfect, especially where the drawing in the manual is not a great repro of the original, or very reduced size, but very very much better than nothing. I don't know what OCR engine they are using, and for all I know it may be one that's used in other products too. So I guess this is mostly a comment that OCR seems to have moved on a lot since we first started seeing it for the desktop, when it was decidedly disappointing.
Ooof. Yeah, safety glass likes to do that if it's mistreated or just in a bad mood. Our shower screen exploded in similar fashion a few years back, just randomly without anyone even near it.
Marc, you should select the PDF/A option when creating these PDF. It's designed for long term archiving by not allowing features not suitable for future proofing. Although on the scanned image there probably isn't much to cause issues in the future. Eh, it was a thought.
Some years ago there was a brief fad where HP was selling all-in-one printers with a camera scanner. It looked like a cheap LED lamp on a stick... I like the idea of being able to copy books in a convenient manner, although I can just as well tether my DSLR or use it with a remote/intervalometer.
I trialled this scanner and I was saving the images as a TIFF for my master copy and then saved as a Pdf with OCR capability. The lighting is a big problem as any other light source seems to show up. One big problem is that if you have any black edging it disappears and the scan only starts at the light coloured part of the magazine or print. One problem I had was that for some unexplained reason the first scan of a book or magazine would be turned by 45 degrees! i might also occur during scanning of other pages. The colour correction control was a bit poor.
A lot of software designers consider themselves smarter than the average user so they come up with "wonderful new features" to old apps that you can't modify or turn off and if you don't like them there's something wrong with you.
As a software designer, I always wanted to add options, but it was the product managers/ UX experts who wanted to dumb it down. If they didn't understand the details, they assumed the users wouldn't either.
Tell your managers that they assumed wrong. Assuming the users wouldn't understand is insulting to the users that DO understand. Some users (this user) DO want the details. If someone doesn't understand what an option does , they can just leave it or search in the help/online.
The "select to delete" has a reason. I've routinely came across software that required you to delete each file one-by-one. Imagine having to delete 100 files and you can see which option is better. Also, there's the silly UX mantra of "no function should be duplicated". I would prefer to have both long-press and select-to-delete.
another suggestion is to have a "shadow correction" with the help of a calibrated "grey card" and a "white balance". That would be great. ...to deal with the shadows at corners...
And all I could think of was: What the heck is an ASCII to parallel converter? Is it an old variant of the modern HTML to USB converter? Or the meter to gallon converter? Then I looked it up and found that it was really a GPIB to BCD converter which makes more sense.
I keep getting these sort of scanners show up in my ebay searches because I'm looking for something else, they've been flooding in revently, and all I'm looking for is old cctv systems that look like daleks 😂
I have exactly the same problem, large format music book too big for facing pages, but a single page scan doesn’t flatten. Silly oversight really as they could surely add this easily.
Cool! Can you connect a packet sniffer (whilst it's doing the OCR, for example)? Text compresses nicely into packets as well, and might make for a juicy review ;) How well does it scan a PCB? Thank you, and best of luck finding all of that glass!
I would expect the OCR and many other calculations to be done by the computer, with the device just providing raw sensor data and raw control over lights and lasers.
Id have loved this when I copied 25 year old Porsche dealer workshop manuals for myself. 2000 pages worth. I wore out a photocopiers top feed at work. This would have made light work of thicker card pages and the wider fold out ones.
@@CuriousMarc: I'll need to find out eventually - the last time I ran one has to be close to 25 years ago. All should be in good shape - stored in a dry environment and not modified since being taken out of service. There are plans to place them in a museum setting and start to work on them within the next few years.
After the pages were taken out of the binder they could have scanned faster by having the stack of pages under the camera, do a scan, then turn the top page over and put it on a stack on the left. The scanner should be able (I hope) to recognize there are two pages under its cameras if you leave a small gap between the two stacks.
That's what the ring spine did for him at first attempt, and the software failed to recognize it, which is a serious bug, as that style of book was very common for 1980s hardware.
@@johndododoe1411 It probably failed because the scanner software saw lines between the pages due to the rings where it was expecting none, or just black. Eliminate the rings and just have two stacks of pages and it should make the scanning process a little faster as it should be able to do two pages at once. If the software had the ability to draw a line to show the location of the page separation that would be simpler and more reliable.
I use it for more than a year, it's very good (Hardware) but I don't like the software and I kept suggesting without any update for now... (I would like after saving to be able to open the folder containing the save + explanation on saving modes (because the size of pdf can be very big or very small) + the options you listed/suggested)
@@UnitSe7en That's a lot of assumptions you've just made there. You don't know what he touched with the glass, how hard he touched it or what part of the glass did the touching. There are so many things you don't know about what happened that I must acknowledge your complete ignorance and declare your statement that my comment is stupid to be equally ignorant.
Thankyou for a very helpful review. I have dozens of old diaries to scan, some of which have spiral binding (and I cannot remove the pages). Is it possible to manually position the book so that the dividing line on the screen (in the software) matches the binding location? i.e. don't rely on the software automatically finding the join, just move it to where the division actually is? My other question is about reflection. I also have hundreds of old B&W photos which are glued (cannot easily be removed) in old photo albums. Some are matte but some are quite glossy. If I turn off ambient lights and just rely on the side lights of the scanner, it your experience that this will remove glare/hot spots from such scans of glossy material? Thankyou.
May I ask you about the buttons on et18pro? what does the button + - mean? I can't figure it out. and there is no explanations about those two buttons in the manual..
Would this also be usable to take photos of (SMD) PCBs? Will it have reflection problems on shiny parts? Good depth of view, readable text of components etc?
This is a lot of plastic packaging that's just going to get tossed out. Would be nice if they got rid of some of the redundant boxes and made it out of something mildly easier to recycle.
It ships for well over a month, from warehouse to crane, to port, to barge, across the entire pacific ocean, back to port and crane, through numerous warehouses and shipping containers, until it finally reaches the smallest truck where some weed-smoking ape kicks it down your driveway. You can have your model shipped in a paper bag if you wish, but whatever packaging they don't use protecting yours they're welcome to use on mine.
Hey @CuriousMarc, your "artistic perspective" with the broken glass on top of the schematics was actually pretty cool. I'm both an electronics nerd and an art nerd, and I would actually frame that photo and hang it up in my basement as a cool piece! One of my friends is an architectural PhD student and she uses some of her CAD drawings for backgrounds and puts different layers of stuff on top of it, almost the same way you did. It looks really neat!
@@DoctorWhom You think you're getting Windows 11, but in reality the folks at Microsoft are getting your hardware. It's a brilliant feature and the list of approved software is growing every day!
Why is the display so high? I don't find this ergonomic. It forces me to stand all the time. I'd rather like a laser middle line to align the book, have a display further down, and use the foot switch.
As of Dec 2019 no plans for Linux support, just Windows and Mac (found an askubuntu post) Somebodys 2016 post indicates that the scanner has a UVC interface, so you can take pictures with the camera, but you'd be missing out on the software. The most amusing is someone asking about it on the linux mint forum, mentioning that 2016 blog post, and the only response was somebody linked that same 2016 blog post. www.czur.com/support/et18pro has their system requirements.
Found this review on Amazon.com.Maybe something to look into? "1 - It won't run unless I disable my antivirus software, and 2 - The software scans other parts of my computer for sensitive information and communicates on the back-end with a server in china. I really don't think a desktop scanner is supposed to look at what other programs I have installed on my computer, or what my history or cookies are either. Since it seems to be doing such activities and has a microphone, I would be concerned with what may be scanned/heard." www.amazon.com/product-reviews/B07JMTPJ8S?reviewerType=all_reviews
Hopefully they did more than just let VirusTotal look at it. I've seen two situations so far where virustotal treats something as a problem, and people just take its word. There is a toolkit called NWJS that is basically a web browser that can be shipped with an application, and some versions of it were used by ransomware, so the particular version of NWJS gets considered a virus. Oh no, now betaflight-configurator looks like a virus. Increment the NWJS version, completely fine. Another one was someone ran a converter program and told it to use the desktop, now everyone looking at virus total thinks its scanning THEIR desktop folders. CZUR is a company based in china, so of course they're going to grab files from China. Well, I've heard of Shenzhen where their Sales and Marketing is. I'm going to look up Dalian City
People who scan (and those who make it possible) paper documentation, make it searchable and publish it on the web have their own special place in heaven.
I tell you, Al Kossow deserves a presidential suite in heaven for the work he does for bitsavers. Same for Ron Burkey and Mike Stewart for the herculean work they do with the Apollo archives!
Amen
We’ve come a long way from the microfiche days…good on you for taking the time to preserve this knowledge Marc.
I was going to suggest that CZUR adds a microfiche scanning feature, but I am not quite sure they'd follow the advice ;-) . Saving and scanning vintage doc is an everyday fight.
@@CuriousMarc Yes, that would be a great feature indeed. I hope you guys are bearing the heat ok. Stay safe.
@@CuriousMarc have you looked at using an epson v850 film scanner. It should have the required resolution to scan microfilm effectively.
You might need to get a custom holder but you should be able to get an enlarged 100dpi for the source document, and is cheap enough.
I would've given an arm and a leg for this 20 years ago when I was faced with a 3 week deadline for scanning a cupboard full of old philips service manuals before it was going to be destroyed. I was allowed to borrow them only for a day at a time, had no car and just an old HP scanjet at home. Some of these manuals are still the only copies on the net today.
I don't understand why people and especially companies have no problem in destroying knowledge...
Did you manage to scan everything?
@@ferrari2k money. The university started to charge departments per square meter. Tech support had no income of their own so the archives had to go. I got the audio stuff, never bothered with the TV schematics. I could not keep them as they were technically 'on loan' from Philips, even though they were most definitely destroyed to make space. I'd be amazed if Philips themselves made copies. A lot was lost around the early 2000s when commercialization set in.
@@RemcoStoutjesdijk that is just bad to hear...
I would just think that the management changed shortly before and had that brillant idea of cost cutting?
@@ferrari2k Exactly that happened, sign of the times. The place is now a hotel and a shell of its former self. At least emptying the basement departments landed me a nice digitizing Tek 5k series plus plugins and I ate old vacuum tubes and paper/oil capacitors for several years to put me through college.
@@RemcoStoutjesdijk how could I guess ;)
This was surely an older sheet of glass. And as everyone on the web knows, you have to recap old glass, otherwise it will explode. Simply get two sheets of metal (cut up some tin foil hats) and place them on top side and underside of your sheet of glass. Voilà!
"Maximum altitude: 25,000 feet."
The old HP engineers really were more thorough with their documentation! Now a days, you get a 60 page manual... in 15 different languages, so each language gets 4 pages.
So true! Even the Keysight stuff is that way now.
I watched the entire video thinking “oh, this is going to be expensive.” Well, nope. $400! That’s really reasonable, off to order one.
I wish I had a use for it it seems like it would be fun to use.
I think this would be really useful for visual artists too. Compared to taking a photo and manually cropping/skewing etc, or wrangling a sketchbook onto a flatbed, you can just stick it under this and get one or two clean images of your work. If you have a single page it’s even easier. But given it’s at a fixed distance from the table and has the laser to correct topography, that takes a lot of the work out. Potentially useful for people who prefer physical art but work in digital just for the ease of export.
Yeah I was fully expecting like $2k for something so niche.
@@DevilsHandyman Wait…. I was supposed to have a use for it before I ordered it? Damn it.
15:50 Discussing the older, more-stylish version: "It must have cost them an arm and a leg to make..." Undoubtedly... it's literally an arm and a leg! Hahaha.
Excellent machine, expertly demonstrated by Curious Marc the super salesman.
Based on Marc's review I ordered one...made a mistake and mistakenly thought the ET16 was a ET18 simply without the wifi capability; it's actually 2 megapixels lower in resolution. The folks at CZUR were great and simply allowed me to add in the price differential (with the 14% Curious Marc discount) and hopefully my ET18 will be here soon. Thanks Marc!
Oh, wow. I was about to order the ET16 because I assumed the same. Thanks for the tip.
@@obsidiansea Glad we saved you some heartburn! Have fun!
Your improvement suggestions would be game-changers in my opinion. And should be all software-related, so perhaps in version 2.0 of their software?
7:54 Thank the stars for tempered glass! In our house in the 70's we had sliding doors the entire wall of the living room. My sister was holding a stick and ran thru one of the panes which shattered into long shard like daggers and fell to the ground. The only thing that saved here was the stick hitting the glass first and her coming thru some milliseconds later. She had a small cut on her forehead. We stopped cleaning the glass after that so that it was obvious the doors were closed.
7:58 just like with a Prince Rupert's drop the weak point of tempered glass are the tips, in the case of the glass panes that would be the corners. You can smash a hammer on tempered glass and it won't break, but just nick one corner and it explodes. And that stuff flies everywhere. You'll probably find pieces of it over the next couple of years on occasion hiding in some corners.
It’s exactly what happens. It’s a Rupert’s drop, just a flat version...
@@CuriousMarc
Thank you !
At last I know why and how the tempered glass shattered (you said Exploded which was intriguing to seek for scientific reason based on laser+glass interaction?!!!.
It was a nice review. Thank you
I really hope they add your suggested improvements, It would be a game changer.
Sacrificing the ergonomics of the old unit is probably the trade-off they made to make the lighting more uniform, Given how much wider the top lighting head is. And that to preserve the folding industrial design may have priced it out of the market. That is a trade-off I could live with, but it also makes it far less portable when traveling by plane or what not. But it is also significantly more expensive than the older one as well.
Great job, thanks for your archiving efforts. If you look at some of the old books scanned in the Bodleian library, you occasionally have scans of a librarian's thumb holding a page down.
We have a similar device in our archiv. except is goes up to A0+ and does the correction on the whole plane. for pricing you will have to shift two decimals and also buy quite a beefy workstation for the software to run... :-)
Nothing better than some free-form jazz exploration on a Saturday morning with Marc.
Marc, I think your review was terrific. The manufacurer has had some "Real World" feedback from someone who has experienced the problems that will be encountered outside the lab.....this is a goldmine for the manufacturer. If you could manually place the page divide and potentially merge scans, that would essentially deal with the challenges that emerge from those extended fold-out schematics that were popular way back then. Well done again Marc...I don't suppose you have a copy of the Service Manual for my HP 34401A do you ?
I am a scanning nut! Mainly for my own hobbies but I get manuals here and there would love scan all. This item in my radar now thanks.
Looks to be a great scanner with potential to be even better with your suggestions. Shame your glass was in a bad temper and exploded!
The glass was safe, the human was in danger. 😎
I was ready to extol the virtues of scantailor and a tripod but I've got no answer for that page flatining, that's slick.
Love mine. It was inspired by your review of the Aura, but the ET18 looked superior. I'm glad they comped you one.
I wish I had manuals and books to scan right now so I could justify this.
That thing is amazing, even has OCR support, wow
Unattended OCR is useless though.
Having recently watched a Computerphile video about PDFs, there is a mode/type (I forget exactly what it's called) that will display bitmap or original images but still perform OCR to provide searchable text. The CZUR software might not support that but I'd expect some PDF authoring software would.
Let’s hope they add that then!
I thought that would be pretty much standard to just overlay the OCR text with the original image so as to not lose any information. I know that the OCR built into the (free) PDFXChange viewer does this by default.
In this regard, I'll put in a good word for Foxit what-used-to-be-called PhantomPDF, and was just renamed to "PDF Editor". I've scanned a bunch of technical manuals (using an old Canon s-l-o-w flatbed scanner), and it does a surprisingly good job of OCR-ing the text into searchable form, both in columns of text, and in drawings. Not perfect, especially where the drawing in the manual is not a great repro of the original, or very reduced size, but very very much better than nothing. I don't know what OCR engine they are using, and for all I know it may be one that's used in other products too. So I guess this is mostly a comment that OCR seems to have moved on a lot since we first started seeing it for the desktop, when it was decidedly disappointing.
Text under image, PDF/A. My preferred format too. I do this in ABBYY.
@@jaycool428 it does overlay searchable text with a low res image of text, when saving or converting to searchable PDF
Ooof. Yeah, safety glass likes to do that if it's mistreated or just in a bad mood. Our shower screen exploded in similar fashion a few years back, just randomly without anyone even near it.
Maybe a bumblebee collision?
Thanks for your efforts !
Marc, you should select the PDF/A option when creating these PDF. It's designed for long term archiving by not allowing features not suitable for future proofing. Although on the scanned image there probably isn't much to cause issues in the future. Eh, it was a thought.
Some years ago there was a brief fad where HP was selling all-in-one printers with a camera scanner. It looked like a cheap LED lamp on a stick... I like the idea of being able to copy books in a convenient manner, although I can just as well tether my DSLR or use it with a remote/intervalometer.
I trialled this scanner and I was saving the images as a TIFF for my master copy and then saved as a Pdf with OCR capability. The lighting is a big problem as any other light source seems to show up. One big problem is that if you have any black edging it disappears and the scan only starts at the light coloured part of the magazine or print. One problem I had was that for some unexplained reason the first scan of a book or magazine would be turned by 45 degrees! i might also occur during scanning of other pages. The colour correction control was a bit poor.
Nice bit of jazz and a french voice 👍
A lot of software designers consider themselves smarter than the average user so they come up with "wonderful new features" to old apps that you can't modify or turn off and if you don't like them there's something wrong with you.
As a software designer, I always wanted to add options, but it was the product managers/ UX experts who wanted to dumb it down. If they didn't understand the details, they assumed the users wouldn't either.
Tell your managers that they assumed wrong. Assuming the users wouldn't understand is insulting to the users that DO understand. Some users (this user) DO want the details. If someone doesn't understand what an option does , they can just leave it or search in the help/online.
The "select to delete" has a reason. I've routinely came across software that required you to delete each file one-by-one. Imagine having to delete 100 files and you can see which option is better. Also, there's the silly UX mantra of "no function should be duplicated". I would prefer to have both long-press and select-to-delete.
another suggestion is to have a "shadow correction" with the help of a calibrated "grey card" and a "white balance". That would be great.
...to deal with the shadows at corners...
THX for the links in the doodle-doo.
Hi Marc,
Are you creating a public archive of HP manuals, or is for a private collection?
A public repository would sure be helpful :)
Cheers,
I have another suggestion. A little robot hand that comes out of the scanner and turns the pages.
hahahahaa!! skynet in yur archives!
I see your circa 1997 caller ID box! I had one of those too.
Can you make a deep dive on Håkan Lans, the first color grapich display? Two flies and 🇸🇪 flag and a red fence! Love your channel!!
And all I could think of was: What the heck is an ASCII to parallel converter? Is it an old variant of the modern HTML to USB converter? Or the meter to gallon converter?
Then I looked it up and found that it was really a GPIB to BCD converter which makes more sense.
Yes, it’s so weirdly named, that’s why I never got it, until I found out it was used in Mr. Fancy Pants setup! Then I knew I had to have it ;-)
I keep getting these sort of scanners show up in my ebay searches because I'm looking for something else, they've been flooding in revently, and all I'm looking for is old cctv systems that look like daleks 😂
I have exactly the same problem, large format music book too big for facing pages, but a single page scan doesn’t flatten. Silly oversight really as they could surely add this easily.
Nice scanner! I'm also still using win7 and office 2010☻
Cool! Can you connect a packet sniffer (whilst it's doing the OCR, for example)? Text compresses nicely into packets as well, and might make for a juicy review ;)
How well does it scan a PCB? Thank you, and best of luck finding all of that glass!
I would expect the OCR and many other calculations to be done by the computer, with the device just providing raw sensor data and raw control over lights and lasers.
Is it Linux compatible?
Looking on their website, the software is only available for windows and mac. But if you really need it, i bet you could get it to work within WINE
It says Linux is supported.
Id have loved this when I copied 25 year old Porsche dealer workshop manuals for myself. 2000 pages worth. I wore out a photocopiers top feed at work. This would have made light work of thicker card pages and the wider fold out ones.
I have some binders like that! - System/34 manuals.
And I take it you have the System/34 that goes with it? What a great monster of a machine.
@@CuriousMarc: Uhm, I have FOUR System/34s, and quite a bit of stuff for them...
@@IBM_Museum Do they boot, er, IPL?
@@CuriousMarc: I'll need to find out eventually - the last time I ran one has to be close to 25 years ago. All should be in good shape - stored in a dry environment and not modified since being taken out of service. There are plans to place them in a museum setting and start to work on them within the next few years.
8:45 that glass on the schematics is beautiful, very artistic, an artistic accident. Can I use the CZUR ET18 Pro Scanner in Linux?
After the pages were taken out of the binder they could have scanned faster by having the stack of pages under the camera, do a scan, then turn the top page over and put it on a stack on the left. The scanner should be able (I hope) to recognize there are two pages under its cameras if you leave a small gap between the two stacks.
That's what the ring spine did for him at first attempt, and the software failed to recognize it, which is a serious bug, as that style of book was very common for 1980s hardware.
@@johndododoe1411 It probably failed because the scanner software saw lines between the pages due to the rings where it was expecting none, or just black. Eliminate the rings and just have two stacks of pages and it should make the scanning process a little faster as it should be able to do two pages at once. If the software had the ability to draw a line to show the location of the page separation that would be simpler and more reliable.
I use it for more than a year, it's very good (Hardware) but I don't like the software and I kept suggesting without any update for now...
(I would like after saving to be able to open the folder containing the save + explanation on saving modes (because the size of pdf can be very big or very small) + the options you listed/suggested)
👍👍👍
Will the scanner do an OCR PDF? (Ha! I guess I should watch the entire episode...)
i'm glad you used safety glass.. still a mess to clean up though
At least it's just glass to clean up. Blood can be a real less.
If it was float glass it wouldn't have exploded in the first place. He wouldn't have got cut up no matter what. Your comment is stupid.
Didn’t feel that safe to me!
@@UnitSe7en That's a lot of assumptions you've just made there. You don't know what he touched with the glass, how hard he touched it or what part of the glass did the touching. There are so many things you don't know about what happened that I must acknowledge your complete ignorance and declare your statement that my comment is stupid to be equally ignorant.
Based on my experience I expect Marc will be finding those little glass pebbles in nooks and crannies years from now.
Oh, I read that as "seizure".
Thankyou for a very helpful review. I have dozens of old diaries to scan, some of which have spiral binding (and I cannot remove the pages). Is it possible to manually position the book so that the dividing line on the screen (in the software) matches the binding location? i.e. don't rely on the software automatically finding the join, just move it to where the division actually is?
My other question is about reflection. I also have hundreds of old B&W photos which are glued (cannot easily be removed) in old photo albums. Some are matte but some are quite glossy. If I turn off ambient lights and just rely on the side lights of the scanner, it your experience that this will remove glare/hot spots from such scans of glossy material? Thankyou.
I'm wondering if you could lay some non-glare plexiglass over the glossy photos. I haven't tried it. Just wondering if it would work.
May I ask you about the buttons on et18pro? what does the button + - mean? I can't figure it out. and there is no explanations about those two buttons in the manual..
Would this also be usable to take photos of (SMD) PCBs? Will it have reflection problems on shiny parts? Good depth of view, readable text of components etc?
CZUR... I came, I saw, I captured it to your PC... (captum te ad personale Mathematico præstantissimo)
What's the resolution? Looks amazing.
This is a lot of plastic packaging that's just going to get tossed out. Would be nice if they got rid of some of the redundant boxes and made it out of something mildly easier to recycle.
It ships for well over a month, from warehouse to crane, to port, to barge, across the entire pacific ocean, back to port and crane, through numerous warehouses and shipping containers, until it finally reaches the smallest truck where some weed-smoking ape kicks it down your driveway. You can have your model shipped in a paper bag if you wish, but whatever packaging they don't use protecting yours they're welcome to use on mine.
Is there a chance you could do a video on the Hubble Space Telescope computer that's currently having trouble?
Only if they bring the computer back for marc to play with ;)
Sell software separately!! Looks giod.
Hey @CuriousMarc, your "artistic perspective" with the broken glass on top of the schematics was actually pretty cool. I'm both an electronics nerd and an art nerd, and I would actually frame that photo and hang it up in my basement as a cool piece!
One of my friends is an architectural PhD student and she uses some of her CAD drawings for backgrounds and puts different layers of stuff on top of it, almost the same way you did.
It looks really neat!
A V shape can be flattening book better
Safety glass will explode if it takes a hit to any edge, also if it is under thermal load.
You could say that glass was bad tempered.
Great review - treat yourself to a Windows 10 box.
Thanks!
Garbage.
At this point may as well wait for a nice cheap Windows 11 box.
@@DoctorWhom You think you're getting Windows 11, but in reality the folks at Microsoft are getting your hardware. It's a brilliant feature and the list of approved software is growing every day!
Just ask HP for PDF
So it's not pronounced as "seizure"?
Why is the display so high? I don't find this ergonomic. It forces me to stand all the time. I'd rather like a laser middle line to align the book, have a display further down, and use the foot switch.
Because you’re expected to use a PC or smart device as your main monitor.
How does the CZUR OCR compare to Acrobat native OCR? Anyone compared?
Nobody likes to buy Adobe products after they screwed everyone over in multiple ways.
I went to their web page and couldn't fine any mention of system requirements. Will their software and drivers run under Linux?
As of Dec 2019 no plans for Linux support, just Windows and Mac (found an askubuntu post) Somebodys 2016 post indicates that the scanner has a UVC interface, so you can take pictures with the camera, but you'd be missing out on the software. The most amusing is someone asking about it on the linux mint forum, mentioning that 2016 blog post, and the only response was somebody linked that same 2016 blog post. www.czur.com/support/et18pro has their system requirements.
It's there - under specs, just above the reviews, and it says Linux is supported.
This scanner is not good for photo books because photos requires uniform lighting.
Why do you scan into JPEG, not e.g uncompressed PNG?
100% JPG quality is uncompressed.
How is it pronounciated? "Sei-zure"?
czur ---> c zur
Found this review on Amazon.com.Maybe something to look into?
"1 - It won't run unless I disable my antivirus software, and
2 - The software scans other parts of my computer for sensitive information and communicates on the back-end with a server in china. I really don't think a desktop scanner is supposed to look at what other programs I have installed on my computer, or what my history or cookies are either.
Since it seems to be doing such activities and has a microphone, I would be concerned with what may be scanned/heard."
www.amazon.com/product-reviews/B07JMTPJ8S?reviewerType=all_reviews
Hopefully they did more than just let VirusTotal look at it. I've seen two situations so far where virustotal treats something as a problem, and people just take its word. There is a toolkit called NWJS that is basically a web browser that can be shipped with an application, and some versions of it were used by ransomware, so the particular version of NWJS gets considered a virus. Oh no, now betaflight-configurator looks like a virus. Increment the NWJS version, completely fine. Another one was someone ran a converter program and told it to use the desktop, now everyone looking at virus total thinks its scanning THEIR desktop folders. CZUR is a company based in china, so of course they're going to grab files from China. Well, I've heard of Shenzhen where their Sales and Marketing is. I'm going to look up Dalian City
Good thing you posted it here because that review seems to have been taken down.