oh my word, that sub looks incredible, i absolutely love it ! , i can come back for that as soon as you mentoin it lol really well done to AE , and thanks to you also for making it happen :)
Everyone seems to think you have to have huge magnets to have huge sound. These speakers are proof positive that size doesn't always matter!! That chrome is beautiful!
The Apollo upgrade are more shorting rings it helps lower and flatten inductance over stroke and lowers distortion while allso helping with power compression by wicking heat from the gap faster but doesn't add spl low distortion in bass sounds less loud people are condition to distortion in the bass where are ears are not sensitive to it allso a small loss of sensitive due to the wideing n legnthing of the gap everything is a trade off fantastic subs though very pro audio type sound vs traditional car audio type subs
I really need to hear these subs. I'm in the process of designing my IB build and a lot of people swear by them but I'm unsure of how rowdy they can get with the music I listen to. Can't wait to demo a system running them
Petar, by this time everyone might know how good these AE subs sound. I wonder whether these subs are designed to withstand mechanical shock loads like 50 G's, as all automative componets are tested for the same.
Well, we can wonder all that regarding any other piece of equipment then. Imagine those huge subs like Sundown with monster size magnets in an accident, probably like flying bombs.
@BMW1M All the oem components in side the cabin are tested for 50G's shock load for 6milli seconds per axis in both +ve and -ve directions 10 times. This info will be available with any design or validation person who work for an oem or a tier1 company. There is nothing wrong if you don't know this information 🙂
@@pssound9749 i have seen a car in Holland that crashed with big sundown drivers, the baskets broke and got total loss. But no offence to the brand, i bet all subs break
@@franshaan7388 absolutely! Me naming that brand is that they come into my mind as monstrous size drivers. All of them would loose the magnet in a huge accident.
F the sub..... man u are amazing. hope to see u one day... shake ur hand...and probably drop that 150k on the system lol....but i am 7000 miles away. but hey, sometimes life gives you strange opportunities. i really admire your work man. You are truly an artist at this stuff.
Nice job and subs there. I’m looking to buy one helix sub but I’m not sure what to choose…q10w or q12w? Can you give me your opinion in regards of this 2? What to choose? I can’t listen them anywhere in London.
@@pssound9749 thank you for your quick answer. Can you recommend something similar or which one is the replacement for them now? I still seen some q10/12 in stocks at some stores...if i found one what to choose? or what you recommend for a daily car, nice bass and to don't take a lot of space for the box
@@mariuspopescu9935 The Q10W is very capable, but whether it's enough output for you or not is relative and subjective. The 12" definitely has more output capability too. Chech out our webshop, it's in description. Anything close to these would be the Focal K series or the JL W3v3 range.
IB alignments don't require much power (as much as a 10x reduction). Less power to achieve full stroke, therefore, lower operational current, ... so the coil needn't be designed to dissipate the heat accompanying higher current. Therefore, less coil diameter, w/fewer layers, etc. This all facilitates the design to have low inherent inductance, thus allowing inductance control measures to be implemented in the motor. Benefits; Lower current needed for full stroke, yields diminished flux modulation, resulting in lower intermod and harmonic distortions. Plus, the element that isn't often discussed is driver speed. Low inductance is oftentimes associated with superior upper octave response of a particular driver... that is the end result. How that's manifested is driver "speed". The physics at play are faster rise time acceleration speed of the driver. The limiting factor of how quickly a LF driver responds depends on instantaneous current capability of an amplifier, and the voice coil's ability to accept it un-impeded. Inductance inhibits the rise time of the high speed pulse of current... therefore, low inductance characteristics facilitate a higher "speed" response of the driver. Typically, big diameter, high capacity voice coils are only needed when the driver's excursion is encountering box volume pressures, thus needing elevated power levels to overcome the air spring compression of a given enclosure. That's the beauty and simplicity of Open Baffle and Infinite Baffle alignments. In home audio it can easily be a 10x reduction of power ... that's mammoth, ... impacting everything from the residence's panelboard (branch circuit voltage drop), all the way to the voice coil's thermal compression (I²R, voltage drop again). That said, IB/OB, is not without it's caveats.
oh my word, that sub looks incredible, i absolutely love it ! , i can come back for that as soon as you mentoin it lol really well done to AE , and thanks to you also for making it happen :)
Everyone seems to think you have to have huge magnets to have huge sound. These speakers are proof positive that size doesn't always matter!! That chrome is beautiful!
i still run some stryke subs from before the name change. great to see hes still building awesome stuff
The Apollo upgrade are more shorting rings it helps lower and flatten inductance over stroke and lowers distortion while allso helping with power compression by wicking heat from the gap faster but doesn't add spl low distortion in bass sounds less loud people are condition to distortion in the bass where are ears are not sensitive to it allso a small loss of sensitive due to the wideing n legnthing of the gap everything is a trade off fantastic subs though very pro audio type sound vs traditional car audio type subs
Do you recommend the Apollo upgrade then? Thanks
Good luck on the installation to you and your team.
I really need to hear these subs. I'm in the process of designing my IB build and a lot of people swear by them but I'm unsure of how rowdy they can get with the music I listen to. Can't wait to demo a system running them
Interesting that you said that you prefer the sound of 15's instead of 18s. Even for the lowest lows? Up to ~40-45hz?
Nice frying pans
Those subwoofers look like ones in my Rythmik FV18s, 18 inch home subwoofers!
That chrome finish... holy
I am looking for a an sql 18
What do you guys recommend
Petar, by this time everyone might know how good these AE subs sound.
I wonder whether these subs are designed to withstand mechanical shock loads like 50 G's, as all automative componets are tested for the same.
Well, we can wonder all that regarding any other piece of equipment then. Imagine those huge subs like Sundown with monster size magnets in an accident, probably like flying bombs.
@BMW1M
All the oem components in side the cabin are tested for 50G's shock load for 6milli seconds per axis in both +ve and -ve directions 10 times.
This info will be available with any design or validation person who work for an oem or a tier1 company.
There is nothing wrong if you don't know this information 🙂
50G ? HELL NO. EVERY AIRCRAFT COMPONENT IT NOT TESTES UP TO 50 G
@@pssound9749 i have seen a car in Holland that crashed with big sundown drivers, the baskets broke and got total loss. But no offence to the brand, i bet all subs break
@@franshaan7388 absolutely! Me naming that brand is that they come into my mind as monstrous size drivers. All of them would loose the magnet in a huge accident.
F the sub..... man u are amazing. hope to see u one day... shake ur hand...and probably drop that 150k on the system lol....but i am 7000 miles away. but hey, sometimes life gives you strange opportunities. i really admire your work man. You are truly an artist at this stuff.
@Pssound question, are these subs good for rap and r/b music? Sealed box.
No, these drivers need lots of airspace, you want them to be in IB, in a trunk or true-IB.
@@pssound9749 trunk
@pssound sealed box in the trunk, no ib
@@pssound9749 sealed box in the trunk, no ib
@@vernonjackson1792 i meant trunk-IB, no box.
Omg! Is Eddy putting g the 2 18's in the scirocco or has he got a new car?
He has a new daily, but we have only shared the progress of it on Patreon until it’s presentable for the public.
What is the $ price fro a 15inch Sub???
www.aespeakers.com. All prices are listed.
Are any of them sbp for trunk ib or are they all true ib. Is Chris there yet. 😂
haha im working on it, wont be there for a while but ive got my new front sub and dac upgrade to keep me going :)
Compared to some car subwoofers these ib acustic elegance woofer i feel for the price are really cheap.
Whoah... Now Eddy will have a sub to match his hair.
such light weight subs OMG
Nice job and subs there. I’m looking to buy one helix sub but I’m not sure what to choose…q10w or q12w? Can you give me your opinion in regards of this 2? What to choose? I can’t listen them anywhere in London.
Those subs were discontinued half year ago.
@@pssound9749 thank you for your quick answer. Can you recommend something similar or which one is the replacement for them now? I still seen some q10/12 in stocks at some stores...if i found one what to choose? or what you recommend for a daily car, nice bass and to don't take a lot of space for the box
@@mariuspopescu9935 The Q10W is very capable, but whether it's enough output for you or not is relative and subjective. The 12" definitely has more output capability too. Chech out our webshop, it's in description. Anything close to these would be the Focal K series or the JL W3v3 range.
Mr. OCD himself!!!!
Voice coils on the 18’s looks small 🤔🗣
Yeah, don’t buy these speakers, they’re shit with these small coils.
IB alignments don't require much power (as much as a 10x reduction).
Less power to achieve full stroke, therefore, lower operational current, ... so the coil needn't be designed to dissipate the heat accompanying higher current.
Therefore, less coil diameter, w/fewer layers, etc. This all facilitates the design to have low inherent inductance, thus allowing inductance control measures to be implemented in the motor.
Benefits;
Lower current needed for full stroke, yields diminished flux modulation, resulting in lower intermod and harmonic distortions.
Plus, the element that isn't often discussed is driver speed. Low inductance is oftentimes associated with superior upper octave response of a particular driver... that is the end result.
How that's manifested is driver "speed". The physics at play are faster rise time acceleration speed of the driver.
The limiting factor of how quickly a LF driver responds depends on instantaneous current capability of an amplifier, and the voice coil's ability to accept it un-impeded. Inductance inhibits the rise time of the high speed pulse of current... therefore, low inductance characteristics facilitate a higher "speed" response of the driver.
Typically, big diameter, high capacity voice coils are only needed when the driver's excursion is encountering box volume pressures, thus needing elevated power levels to overcome the air spring compression of a given enclosure.
That's the beauty and simplicity of Open Baffle and Infinite Baffle alignments. In home audio it can easily be a 10x reduction of power ... that's mammoth, ... impacting everything from the residence's panelboard (branch circuit voltage drop), all the way to the voice coil's thermal compression (I²R, voltage drop again).
That said, IB/OB, is not without it's caveats.
There is just something that turns me off about those types of surrounds.
It wouldn’t if you heard them playing.
Looks like my old JBL 2245Hs.
ooooooooooooooo xx
look at design. i guess its just a Woofer, not a subwoofer 😬
Haha sure 😂
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By far the sexiest subs are made by AE