I personally dress modestly, -but I somewhat agree with tamera. I won’t judge the way others dress in church. I don’t know their story. Some people are new and don’t know much about church. We should be welcoming and glad they came at all. If the first thing we say to them is calling them out in a mean way, they won’t come back; they’ll assume the church is rude. God calls us to love. After they learn, they can adjust their attire if it’s inappropriate, in time.
@@oshaynacampbell9133 but thats the point, where do you cross the line? Some people see someone exposing their belly, cheast, and legs as bad as being naked.
I believe people choose to be ignorant with dressing modest for church. Everyone knows they need to cover up at an interview (except for a job as a stripper, porn star or anything in the adult or entertainment industry). However, when it comes to church all of a sudden they act like they don't know how to cover up. Smh
Exactly! I cant stand it! Dress code is geared towards women I dont see anyone saying anything to men. Wear long dresses , close toe shoes ,hats etc. So we are not exciting men .... it's crazy that we have to be responsible for men smh.
@Kayte Larsen you're still holding a woman accountable for a mans actions. 1. The bible tells us sin is not sin until sin is revealed. Some people/women rather come from a way of life where they don't have modest/ mother board clothing. Maybe they dont have skirts all they way down to the ankle, maybe they dont have collar shirts. And maybe they just came to christ and dont know better but just want to come to church. However in time they will grow. There is a difference in wearing what you have and actually planning in your heart to wear something to seduce a man. God sees and knows our hearts. 2. The bible also tells us to resist the devil and he will flee. Jesus went on a fast and the devil came to tempt him several times. Did Jesus sin? No he rebuked the devil! So if a woman or anybody is trying to make/tempt a person to sin it's our responsibility to say "no, I will not give in to what you are trying to tempt my flesh in to doing!" God tells us to die to our flesh daily meaning do not give in to temptation. So a woman can tempt a man but just like Jesus it's a mans responsibility to have the will power to say no I will not fall. Besides that everyone has different fetishes. So you may think you are dressed modestly but you have on open toe shoes and a man is lusting after your feet. How can a woman be responsible for tempting a man and not knowing whar he likes???everyone Is different and that would cause women to have to walk around covered from head to toe in sheets. Then you may have someone lusting after your eyes, we couldn't win for losing. When we get in the judgment line before God we all stand alone no one will be able to say well this person made me sin get them God! No God is going to handle each one of us alone and hold us individually accountable for our actions. So no ma'am let's not hold. Women responsible for what men do. Everyone is accountable for their own actions.
Kayte Larsen lol so women cannot be seduced by men because by virtue of penis a man is weak? Lmao ok sis. Keep trying to protect the kids, sorry men around you to keep them from sin.
shekiera6 facts are facts! You guys won’t understand and will always think the “modern” way because you guys are indoctrinated into thinking that you guys are your own people in fact you aren’t you belong to Jesus! Now if you don’t want to obey that’s your problem he will not save you if you die in sin. Your flesh won’t suffer but your soul will!
I am four days late but here goes. I remember over 22 years ago I gave my life back to Christ while wearing my worldly clothing. I will never forget when I arrived at church it seems as if I had no clothes on. Looking back I see why people where looking at me I had on a slight see through top with a short leather skirt I had not really known godliness at the time. Anyways, as I begin to grow spiritually and understand the word of God, my desires and appearance begin to change. So now when I see someone half dressed in church or out, I just pray for them because I do not known their heart or pain. God looks beyond our appearance and He seriously know why we do what we do and He is so kind and patient to work with us and through us. Also if God is going to use you for His glory in a mighty way I doubt if He will be okay with body parts being on display.
I agree with Loni! Some women go to church dressing like they are going to a club smh!!! I believe to be respectful...if you dress appropriately to go to work more so to go to church!
Nancy Yvette Rosario but you don’t know the mind frame they are in. And that’s the problem. Decency is subjective. We can do better. There’s a lot more to people. Some people are in such a messed up space mentally however we are so focused on polishing the outside first then inside later as opposed to the other way. This is another reason I have not been in church in years. Ijs.
For me theres a dress code when you go to the office or job interview or wedding and other special ocassions. Why is it that we feel that we can dress how ever we want when we go to church, why should the church be the place were we feel we have to break the rules and be free to do as we please 🤷🏽♀️
Right. No problem dressing correct for a job interview, but church doesn't have to have standards. While we shouldn't expect everyone to come put together from the beginning, we should expect growth in our Christian walk. It's ok that we have a higher standard as Christians. If what we wear wouldn't be appropriate for court, it certainly shouldn't be appropriate for church
At church its between you and god. U dress for God and how ever u feel comfortable to be in his presence. You gotta be there for god and no one else. Some people dont have the means to "dress nice". You're also in a public place so dont be naked but also u shouldn't judge anyone for wearing whatever they wear. U go to church to listen to the word of god, not to look at your neighbor cuz thats not ur business
@@alisa4407 I totally agree with you. You don't have to dress "nice" but appropriate. My point is why should people feel they can behave however they want he disrespectful in the house of God but cannot behave that way in the office or anywhere else.
You could come as you are but don’t stay there!!! There’s room for improvement and there’s decency in the house of GOD which is a expected of any child of GOD.
If u on a job n they have ways of dressing, u r going to respect that (n some times u may not agree). U go b4 a judge/in court, u can’t come any kind of a way. Y not give God his respect. D 1 who gives u life...❗️ Biblically: come as u r- is dealing with d state u r n; state of mind, your situation, your heart...
Nathaniel Orimolade what Bible you reading from because he only covered them once they introduced to sin for eating the apple. Once their mind was corrupt that’s when the looked at each other’s bodies more then just a body. I know my Bible come correct
@@Arbnvbe Are you sure? LOL countries like Cyprus, Albania and Turkey most def ARE debating stuff like that because most of the Muslims there do not cover up and they drink alcohol, etc.
Let’s use common sense, you can’t come to church in a mini skirt, just be appropriate that’s all, there’s different outfits for different occasions, there’s a time & place for everything
They may not have appropriate attire for church, you never really know someone story or where they come from. But if they are looking to be saved Jesus is always waiting with open arms no matter what they are wearing. We can work on clothing later lets work on the soul first
EVERYONE knows you should dress modestly at church. You don't have to be Christian to know that. Now not everyone has the means to be dressy clothes and I understand that. But at least cover up.
I feel like everybody always assumes that everybody else knows what they know. Wasn't there a time before you knew something? Would it have been fair for folks to just assume you knew it already, and judge you based on their assumption?
@@KiraBKADestroyerOfWorlds Yea when I was a child...... it's 2019, not the Stone Age. There is internet and if you are adult, you should have common sense...
I come modest cause the Bible encourages us to, I still have style though . At some point lifestyle must change in Christianity.youre supposed be the light and change in the world , different from the world
For real. I dont go to church anymore mostly because if the people. Yeah yeah, i know church is about God not the people but it got to me too much. No, it wasnt because of how people dressed. However, I've seen churches where i couldnt tell if the people were coming from a club or an awards show.
Alexa got to find a church that’s preaches the gospel and doesn’t water it down to make people happy . My pastor will get in faces and tell the women to put their boobs away if a top is to low😂😂😂. Women just don’t want to be challenged to do right.. personally I came in the church at 16 (3 yrs ago )heavily influenced by the world so I wore short skirts and crop tops. Luckily I had a older lady in her 40’s tell me what was up!
@@briannau.9492 I hear ya. Where I live there arent many churches of my religion. There are mostly very conservative. Its mostly people above their 60s and their grand kids. As a young adult, it would be good to have something more blanaced. So i just dont go. I plan to move away where there is more access to a more ethnic and age diverse church
yes the bible says come as you are.... but when you start to yield to him you would never remain the same. and that's it, you come unto Him at one level and He will take you to the next, unto another level etc. BUT no one who truly gives themselves to Christ remains the same. and yes we as Christian's are responsible for ourselves as well as others aswell in a lot of ways
I agree that is why we can’t judge when we see those coming to church dress as such b/c we don’t know their journey with GOD. They’re probably still figuring it out and will become the better version later on. It’s a process so why judge them and make them feel discourage.
Come as you are everyone. We all eventually learn and do better. The first time you see someone in church is not the time to educate them on how inappropriate their outfit is. Show love and when the person becomes born again,trust me they will dress appropriately for church
@Fitore Salihi I am a christian but that doesn't mean I follow everything written in the bible. that statement and w lot of sexist ones in the new testament was made by St paul. Great man of God but still human
@Fitore Salihi I follow Jesus and the holyspirit guides me. The bible is a book documenting what happened in history and it doesn't give the full story. Alot of things St paul said was him responding the the different churches that wrote to him in their time of crises. Things should always be out in context. I know the bible through and through, I grew up in church but eventually also accepted Jesus as my lord and saviour. You do not have to "get" it. Salvation is personal
@Fitore Salihi Lets not act like alot of cultures are not sexist? The stories in the bible were written in a different time than we leave now. Paul to me made a lot of comments that I consider sexist but It wasnt sexist in the time he was living in Im sure
Romans 14:13 “Therefor let us stop passing judgment on one another. Instead, make up your mind not to put any stumbling block or obstacle in the way of a brother or sister.”
@@br00klynnative58 It is their problem, and that's why their at church...to fix it. To leave an alcoholic in a room with a bottle of whiskey is devisive and mean-spirited. Likewise with the issue of lust. We should not just be concerned with our own selves but also the lives of others and be conscientious of the fact that though their struggle may not look the same as our own, it's still a fight.
You need to be dressed appropriately at church. No one is saying you have to go dressed like a nun but you do need to be dressed respectful of the Lord's presence. And no you dont need to be smoking outside a church. Point blank. Some places deserve to he reverenced and the church is one of those places. You have no business going to church in the same clothes you wore to the club.
I grew up catholic and it really bugged me how a lot of the women would wear tight dresses or show cleavage at church. Like really in front of the priest? It’s not a club it’s a place of worship.
It's so inappropriate to dress indecently to anywhere as a child of God, somethings should be different about you as an ambassador of Christ. From your appearance to your comportment, we should be Christlike, no double standards and nothing like its trending in the kingdom of GOD.
Modesty and decency is not only about church. It's about everything, every place. We are always to have decency, modesty wherever we are as Christians, not only church.
2 Corinthians 5:17 “Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.” The Holy Spirit has made me understand that if a person comes to church and is there to persevere in the Lord and wants to serve Him with all their heart God will do the change that is necessary. The Holy Spirit will let you know whether something isn’t right before the Lord. Yes come as you are but no to stay that way give God you’re heart and he will change you for good and you will have a better life. Jesus is Life! God bless you all!
When you go to church you dress accordingly just like when you go to church you dress accordingly. It's a family environment and people should not dress improper. But I will also like to add that the church is not supposed to be judgemental. The church is supposed to teach, help, save lives, and bring people to christ, it's supposed to be a environment where everyone feels able to come in and worship. Anyone should feel protected and loved when entering a church.
Here in Latino America we go in jeans, sneakers and t-shirts, at least where I live. That's how we dress everyday and as long as you don't go on a bikini there's no problem
In my opinion, it's only okay to "come as you are" if you're just starting, but you don't "stay as you are." As God transforms your inside, your outside gotta have that glow (appropriately) also. And if your "come as you are" is inappropriate, let it be that it's all you have... Don't choose to be inappropriate. & Jeanine, no you're not responsible for anyone stumbling... But as simple as dressing properly, you're doing the work of God, you're saving that soul. And as for the dress code part, from my point of view, you don't go to meet the president in jeans and sneakers, so don't go to Christ like that.
why do ya care about someone else's clothes so much? people out here trying to survive and you're over here talking about modesty as something you need to think of all the time. what is modest even? it changes with each person and religion.
I don't like when the pastor is super rich and flaunts it while members of the congregation are poor and barely have food in the house and giving what they can. I love church but I don't like what it has become, it's more like entertainment for show and some members are really gossipers and holy rollers who judge. I'm Christian and I care more about how you make ppl feel than what you wear in church. Of course you don't want ppl wearing very short clothing but for some ppl that could be all they have.
It’s why the Bible says beware of the wolves in sheep’s clothing, personally I wouldn’t bother moving from the church as to seeing it as an opportunity to veer it back to God’s direction. However, if you can’t stand it then u should really leave it for it’s not a place for u to grow. But remember that not every church is perfect that is y u should constantly read your Bible and constantly continue to grow your relationship with Him
Yeah change churches I prefer not to go to a big church Those people that own it are more well off than a small church most times And the community isn't as tight as a small church I don't like when it's too small that if I don't go then Sunday school doesn't happen Medium size is good U have the feeling of family and you know the church still meets if you don't show up for a week
Kayla G most pastors are not super rich. You’re talking about mega churches. The average, everyday church pastor’s wardrobe is regular. Sometimes pastors are struggling financially too. The tithing is for church remodeling, expanding, amenities, and missionary work. Whatever is left over is for the pastor, and it’s often not much!
@@forever_evolving_5312 We're not talking about pastors wardrobes we're talking about people who attend church who are not talk by their pastors to dress decentlynot coming to church with tight clothes on and short dresses looking like you are a hoochie mama I have been too large and medium sized churches and this is what I have experienced
Yall in the comments being hypocritical as hell. "ThE bIbLe SaY dReSs MoDeStLy" But yall dont do that all the time. Yall wanna be up in the club everything exposed Saturday night but wanna pretend to be all Holy and Modest in church Sunday morning. Childddd If yall dont stop
Shania Acker Girl stfu. Do you go to an office job dressed like you’re about to go to a club. Do you go to a job interview dressed like you’re going to a club. Do you go to funerals, weddings, or charities dressed like you’re going to a club? I highly doubt it and if you are, then your lack of respect for each individual occasion is typical of a trash human being. Why is it that any time the church has reason to defend its traditions, people like you are always so desperate to oppose it? If you’re a Christian, have some respect for your damn religion. It’s not that difficult.
From what I’ve googled, a boat neck is not revealing at all lol. I get very excited dressing up for church and it’s not for any man there. I’m not some holy holy pure person but I’d still try to look cute and modest. But a boat neck blouse isn’t anything crazy.
Everyone Christian on that panel answered so worldly it saddens me. Loni is the ONLY one that went to the Bible. Open your eyes world just because someone says they are Christian doesn’t mean they are. That panel needs to open up their eyes and not answer things by their own understanding and always speak Gods words not their own.
We have to mindful of people and dress respectfully some are weak and yes that may not be something we face personally but we do it out of love for others and obedience to God. The Lord says come as ylu are not stay as you are. And like Tamera said we co.e to God and its him that cleans us up and teaches us as we go. He still working on me. All Glory to God.
Well coming from a catholic and Mexican family.. my church dressed how ever they like.. but also I remember when the father (priest) actually said something regarding the dress code... because it was getting out of hand and girl were wearing tube tops and short shorts.. some people don’t have any brain cells that’s just how I see it.
I dress modestly and don’t judge others like tamera said because we don’t know where they are at in life and with Christ. But Jeanie the Bible does say that we should be careful to not make others stumble. Instead of getting offended for what that lady told you, you should have talked to the lord about it and went into scripture or even could of had a conversation with the lady to try and understand where she was coming from. And we are accountable as a Christian our goal is to be welcoming to people in a way where they are going to feel comfortable because to be honest if you walk up to a church which I have and the pastor is wearing super tight clothes to the point where it catches people’s attention or if women are wearing short dresses with a lot of cleavage showing it is going to take people’s attention from the word which what the church should be focusing on showing instead of making it seem like it’s a fashion show because it’s not. For you were called to freedom, brothers. Only do not use your freedom as an opportunity for the flesh, but through love serve one another. Galatians 5:13
Don’t throw out the Old Testament. Lol everything in the New Testament is verified through the old testament so...Nahw Fam. Loni, what church do you go to? What the what?
I agree you can not throw out the old Testament because it connects with the New Testament. Maybe she meant how we as Christians no longer live under the old covenant but are under the new covenant.
La-Neka Brown I really don’t think she meant it like that. For example, in the Old Testament it says you can’t wear clothing of 2 different materials (so you couldn’t wear wool and linen, and various other combinations). Obviously that doesn’t apply to now. This goes for many other verses, like a disabled/deformed person shouldn’t approach God, if you sin he’ll make you eat your children, and if you sin you should cut off your hand. Yes I’m cherry-picking verses to make a point but the situations in which God said you should follow certain rules don’t literally translate to now because society has evolved to be completely different. Although, the principles are still there. When you sin, give yourself a slap on the wrist instead of cutting off your whole hand. Did I explain myself well enough?
The old testament was a foreshadow for Jesus Christ...u still read and learn from the old testament but we use the new testament for how to behave and act...
Lol Tamera's raspberry thing was funny/cute hahahaha. Btw, I'm surprised no one commented on what Loni said about throwing out the Old Testament or whatever. We are in the New Covenant, yes, but that doesn't mean throw out an entire 3 quarters of the Bible. All of Jesus' teachings and parables were based on the Old Testament. He often expanded on them or explained them, because they were so misunderstood by His own people. There's some things in there we don't understand, but there's a lot of love and encouragement found in the Old Testament as well. When reading any portion of the Bible, it's important to understand the context! Context, and modern applicability. Things about how to dress in the OT were more pertaining to the high priest. God was very particular about what the high priest had to wear when ministering in the temple. I don't remember seeing anything in the OT about how the general congregation should dress. (Please correct me if I'm wrong. Am I the only one who doesn't see an angry God when I read the OT? Put things in perspective)
Adrienne said it. Those in ministry should dress modestly. Like someone on the praise team should not dress in a way to be a distraction. Save or not we are flesh. A man or woman can be distracted by what someone has on. And yes they have the choice to close their eyes and set their minds on Chirst. But at the end of the day why would someone in ministry still project the image of the world. God should be represented in lifestyle and not form or fashion only on Sundays.
I had a related experience, not in church, but in a subway car earlier this summer which involved Christian faith and temptation. I keep myself covered in all seasons, and mostly enjoy wearing dresses, but also real denim (I dislike thin, elastic denim) when I do wear jeans. I button up my collared shirts. When men eyeball me and give negative attention, I sometimes pray and/or make the sign of The Cross. Sometimes they persist; sometimes, look or walk away. If The Bible says not to encourage temptation, God is always right! I might be wrong or sinning in wearing pants at all. As to Adrienne's point about our looks not being responsible for someone else's sin....well, it just reminded me of the story. One man who was sitting, but looking back toward the door I was standing against, saw me communing with The Lord, and felt *convicted* . He actually signed The Cross as well! He then hung his head into his hands and kept it there. 🙏 🙏 💙
@@ArmednotTriggered I don't pay attention to those stereotypes. Earlier generations said the same things about them yet they stupidly continue the cycle.
1. The bible does not say come as you are. 2. Why is it that when we talk about church, everyone gets sensitive about judgement. LISTEN when you go to work or a court house there is a certain dress code of modesty and no one questions it, when we talk About dressing appropriately for church there is no consideration and everyone gets in their feelings. 3. If we're talking about people who are just starting to come to church then that's something I can understand that you don't want to judge them but if it's someone that's been coming to church for a while and they just don't care and no one is saying this is the way that you should be then there's a problem. As far as what Adrienne says about men, at the end of the day a man is a man and don't nobody want to see a woman shaking up herself with no tight dress on when you're trying to live for God and stay faithful to your wife or stay celibate until you get married, ain't nobody got time for that. Same goes for men ain't nobody want to see their balls poking out in tight pants. I'm sorry but we take things too far sometimes, like time always says it's not what you say but how you say it and at the end of the day we should be able to come to each other as brothers and sisters and say hey this is right or this isn't right. maybe buy them a skirt or dress that fits improperly instead of just bashing them and making them feel bad. Whatever you say and do just say it and love and people should be humble enough to take criticism in a loving way just like how they would have to take it at their job.
Hearing tamera talk about Adam literally had me laughing out loud! I love how personal all the girls get, it makes for good honest comedy lol!! Can't make up "sucking his neck fat"
Adrienne is so funny saying please wear your panties to church lol. this why I love my church they come in with jeans and a shirts they don't judge you for what you wear
I think people need to go back to the bible and re-read it and understand it before making assumptions. I totally disagree with Jeannie on this one. And Jeannie you can’t just anyhow overly sexily to a church, is not a club or a rave, that doesn’t you dressed overly modest either, the thing people to have a balance to how their dress to the house of the Lord, without out disrespecting God’s house, if your dressing is making people uncomfortable or people are staring at you, then yes Jeannie you can be held partly responsible for people back sliding. People should just be respectful and keep it pushing.
I am the pastor's son at my church. One night I spent the night at a friends house and we went out, Easter Sunday was the next morning and I came to church in a tank top and jeans. My dad asked me not to come back to church and said I had no respect for God's house. I felt that he should have been happy I was there instead of trying to shame me.
SarahA That’s not fair... I wore what I had and my heart was in the right place because I came to church to celebrate the savior and not to participate in a fashion show.
Let’s be real...The truth is the way you act, speak and dress can have a huge impact on someone else’s behaviour. That’s why we encourage people not to be verbally abusive/bully because it can break someone’s spirit and cause them to harm themselves. Are we then going to say that everybody is only responsible for what they do and not how it affects the next person??? Come on. As soldiers, firemen and the police have a uniform that affects the way other “adults” behave around them, the way we choose to dress can affect the way people perceive and behave around us. “Come as you are” is not even the end of that biblical implication (because the statement itself it’s nowhere in the bible). The bible says “Come, let us reason together, though your sins be red as scarlet, they we will be white as snow”. This references a cleansing, a change. I.E if you really came to God, and not for yourself or just to “have a good time” you will not leave the same. Dress modestly y’all...in and out of church. As true ambassadors of Christ.
If I wouldn’t wear it to a job interview then I wouldn’t wear it to a church. And I agree with Jeanie, I am not responsible for someone else’s misbehavior.
@@biancahotca3244 well people need to be comfortable to give them a break 🙄 especially here in sunny California around the summer we're not going to be walking around dressed like nuns all the time geez 🙄
@@celyavila291 and that's American Catholic? What do you do for one hour? You have praise and worship Offering Testimony Scripture reading Preaching ????
You do not throw out the Old Testament, you have to take the whole counsel of God. To be a Christian is not about feelings but to obey God. Yes, we as Christians are not to make another stumble. We are to help others come to the Lord by how we live to the Lord.
@Bee If you read any part of the old testament, you will come across the pre-incarnate Christ and even shadows of Christ. Read Isaiah 53, who is the prophet Isaiah refering to?
@Fitore Salihi Show me where I am cherry picking? There are many versions of the Bible because of the various methods of translating from the Greek/Hebrew to English. There are not versions because the content is different. Pick up any version and read them side by side. They don't tell a different story. It is the same no matter what version you use. Do you understand what I am trying to tell you?
@Fitore Salihi Did I remove any of these verses? In all of the versions of bibles that I have all of these verses are there! So, what bible are you referring to?
At the end of the day, it’s important to be aware of what you wear. It’s church for God’s sake, not a club. There is nothing wrong with modesty, there is nothing wrong with adding flare and style. A matching purse or a cute jewelry set. I feel like people abuse the whole “God knows my heart.” Little by little we should become aware. Also don’t just throw away the Old Testament. That is crazy foolishness. You can’t just rip out parts of the Bible, the Bible is defined as a collection of books, you can’t just ignore the parts you don’t like 😑
Big ol family reunion on Sundays at my grandma's. . Then my mom and dad were back door neighbors as they grew up and got married .long time friends they were so holidays all my mom's brothers and sisters and their kids were at my mom's mom's And my dad at his mom's with the family there I just had to jump the back fence to go back and forth. ..good old days
I agree with Tam Tam on this one. Personally I like wearing dresses or skirts to church, but I will occasionally throw in pants every now and again. I think you should come as you are and one day as you continue your walk with Christ you will start dressing differently. For that woman to come up to Jeannie like that is simply unacceptable and that's how a lot of lost souls leave the church discouraged and don't come back. God calls us to love and sometimes you need to show love and let God do the work in that persons life before you see a change.
I don’t like that Loni tried to say “well what if your husband” if I married him, that means I trust him, and I know he’s not gonna do anything disgraceful. That also goes to Jeannie’s point, if he did do something disgraceful, that’s on him not her. She’s not responsible for his behavior. Hold these men accountable for their actions instead of treating them like defenseless children
Romans 14:21 KJV [21] It is good neither to eat flesh, nor to drink wine, nor any thing whereby thy brother stumbleth, or is offended, or is made weak. Ppl R Responsible for their own actions N r 2 own up 2 it. But others shouldn’t b a stumbling block....
Nandini Singh XD also in the stripclub most of these strippers bust spilts exposing their bodies for a dollar and later on a Sunday morning yelling “praise the lord” 🥴
They can come as they are n God will change their ways nevertheless modesty is required..abt the stumble part that's true and u have to be responsible. Read the bible n then talk church.
I'm not offended when people aren't covered, I'm offended by the people who go there and flaunt their wealth, esp people in the ministry wearing Rolex watches and Ralf Lauren shirts. Jesus preached modesty, he preached sharing and feeding the poor. He died defending the weak. He said, "Blessed are the meek". So don't go there and flaunt your money and bling when people are struggling to put food in the fridge and a roof over their heads. Share your wealth. Be like Christ. We should all strive to be more and more like Jesus Christ! He should be our only role model. Long live the spirit of Jesus Christ (and I'm not even a Christian!). When you know the truth, you know!
My mom always told the story about going to a wedding and having the option to drink the adult punch or the kids punch. There were people from church there and she happened to drink from the kids table and she influenced another member to do the same. So I understand the "stumble" comment. However...with more knowledge comes from responsibility. I'm glad my mom chose what she did.
Maybe it’s not about it being a sin or God judging you, maybe it’s about what is appropriate for the occasion and inappropriate for the occasion, everybody know that to a farm you wear jeans and to church you cover up. No matter what church your going to.🤷🏻♀️
I personally dress modestly, -but I somewhat agree with tamera. I won’t judge the way others dress in church. I don’t know their story. Some people are new and don’t know much about church. We should be welcoming and glad they came at all. If the first thing we say to them is calling them out in a mean way, they won’t come back; they’ll assume the church is rude. God calls us to love. After they learn, they can adjust their attire if it’s inappropriate, in time.
as long as theyre not naked i wont judge
ShayJShay 😂
@@oshaynacampbell9133 but thats the point, where do you cross the line? Some people see someone exposing their belly, cheast, and legs as bad as being naked.
I believe people choose to be ignorant with dressing modest for church. Everyone knows they need to cover up at an interview (except for a job as a stripper, porn star or anything in the adult or entertainment industry). However, when it comes to church all of a sudden they act like they don't know how to cover up. Smh
@@ifyouwantoreplyjustclickth5063 love your comment...so true.
Loni is so funny 😂 “the Old Testament will hurt your feelings” 😂
😂😂🤣
It really will
Why are there so many versions of the Bible and why do you not follow the old testament if you're a believer? I never understood that about religion
@@Lovely-yg7ie the Old Testament is out dated
@@Lovely-yg7ie the Bible in general is and I’m a christian
We always put women responsible for men stumbling. Every damn time!
Exactly! I cant stand it! Dress code is geared towards women I dont see anyone saying anything to men. Wear long dresses , close toe shoes ,hats etc. So we are not exciting men .... it's crazy that we have to be responsible for men smh.
@Kayte Larsen you're still holding a woman accountable for a mans actions. 1. The bible tells us sin is not sin until sin is revealed. Some people/women rather come from a way of life where they don't have modest/ mother board clothing. Maybe they dont have skirts all they way down to the ankle, maybe they dont have collar shirts. And maybe they just came to christ and dont know better but just want to come to church. However in time they will grow. There is a difference in wearing what you have and actually planning in your heart to wear something to seduce a man. God sees and knows our hearts. 2. The bible also tells us to resist the devil and he will flee. Jesus went on a fast and the devil came to tempt him several times. Did Jesus sin? No he rebuked the devil! So if a woman or anybody is trying to make/tempt a person to sin it's our responsibility to say "no, I will not give in to what you are trying to tempt my flesh in to doing!" God tells us to die to our flesh daily meaning do not give in to temptation. So a woman can tempt a man but just like Jesus it's a mans responsibility to have the will power to say no I will not fall. Besides that everyone has different fetishes. So you may think you are dressed modestly but you have on open toe shoes and a man is lusting after your feet. How can a woman be responsible for tempting a man and not knowing whar he likes???everyone Is different and that would cause women to have to walk around covered from head to toe in sheets. Then you may have someone lusting after your eyes, we couldn't win for losing. When we get in the judgment line before God we all stand alone no one will be able to say well this person made me sin get them God! No God is going to handle each one of us alone and hold us individually accountable for our actions. So no ma'am let's not hold. Women responsible for what men do. Everyone is accountable for their own actions.
Kayte Larsen lol so women cannot be seduced by men because by virtue of penis a man is weak? Lmao ok sis. Keep trying to protect the kids, sorry men around you to keep them from sin.
Yong Faces 👏🏻
shekiera6 facts are facts! You guys won’t understand and will always think the “modern” way because you guys are indoctrinated into thinking that you guys are your own people in fact you aren’t you belong to Jesus! Now if you don’t want to obey that’s your problem he will not save you if you die in sin. Your flesh won’t suffer but your soul will!
I LOVE WHEN ADRIENNE SAID “LETS NOT THROW AWAY ANY PART OF THE BIBLE “ AMEN 🗣‼️
I don't care what people wear to church as long I don't see anybody's boobs, butt, or male parts
You good seeing thighs? 🤔
So you do care...
tell them to leave their boobs at the door
Sarabelle D.A. Or put on some clothes
Pretty much.
I love what Tamera said, “It’s not our place to judge someone!”👏🏻
I am four days late but here goes. I remember over 22 years ago I gave my life back to Christ while wearing my worldly clothing. I will never forget when I arrived at church it seems as if I had no clothes on. Looking back I see why people where looking at me I had on a slight see through top with a short leather skirt I had not really known godliness at the time. Anyways, as I begin to grow spiritually and understand the word of God, my desires and appearance begin to change. So now when I see someone half dressed in church or out, I just pray for them because I do not known their heart or pain. God looks beyond our appearance and He seriously know why we do what we do and He is so kind and patient to work with us and through us. Also if God is going to use you for His glory in a mighty way I doubt if He will be okay with body parts being on display.
The real question is WHY are you going to church? For God or to get attention?
Good question but it's false to assume someone is always dressing for attention
@@bonolomarumo7505 fact
AGREED COVER UP CLEAVAGE AND ALL OF THE HAIR COLOR CAN GO
@@bonolomarumo7505 Showing to much cleavage and wearing clothes to short.
celeste matthews what’s wrong with hair color?
I agree with Loni! Some women go to church dressing like they are going to a club smh!!! I believe to be respectful...if you dress appropriately to go to work more so to go to church!
Nancy Yvette Rosario but you don’t know the mind frame they are in. And that’s the problem. Decency is subjective. We can do better. There’s a lot more to people. Some people are in such a messed up space mentally however we are so focused on polishing the outside first then inside later as opposed to the other way. This is another reason I have not been in church in years. Ijs.
Straight out the Club from the night before too or like they're a Hooker.
You can come as you are, but you can't stay as you are, the word of God has a power to changing us so we have to allow him to change us for good,
For me theres a dress code when you go to the office or job interview or wedding and other special ocassions. Why is it that we feel that we can dress how ever we want when we go to church, why should the church be the place were we feel we have to break the rules and be free to do as we please 🤷🏽♀️
Right. No problem dressing correct for a job interview, but church doesn't have to have standards. While we shouldn't expect everyone to come put together from the beginning, we should expect growth in our Christian walk. It's ok that we have a higher standard as Christians. If what we wear wouldn't be appropriate for court, it certainly shouldn't be appropriate for church
At church its between you and god. U dress for God and how ever u feel comfortable to be in his presence. You gotta be there for god and no one else. Some people dont have the means to "dress nice". You're also in a public place so dont be naked but also u shouldn't judge anyone for wearing whatever they wear. U go to church to listen to the word of god, not to look at your neighbor cuz thats not ur business
@@alisa4407 I totally agree with you. You don't have to dress "nice" but appropriate. My point is why should people feel they can behave however they want he disrespectful in the house of God but cannot behave that way in the office or anywhere else.
Good point.
Exactly!!! Preach.
You could come as you are but don’t stay there!!! There’s room for improvement and there’s decency in the house of GOD which is a expected of any child of GOD.
Oluwakemi Braimah Lmfaooo
Amen.
If u on a job n they have ways of dressing, u r going to respect that (n some times u may not agree).
U go b4 a judge/in court, u can’t come any kind of a way.
Y not give God his respect. D 1 who gives u life...❗️
Biblically: come as u r- is dealing with d state u r n; state of mind, your situation, your heart...
One of the reasons why religion is a cancer.
Search and study the striptures that isn't in the Bible
The naked body isn’t the sin the the dirty minds that make it a sin
THANK YOU
Exactly adam and eve were nude
This topic doesn't fall under sin it's just simply indecent
@@brendentyler5228 if I remember correctly..... God covered them because.... remind me why again?
Nathaniel Orimolade what Bible you reading from because he only covered them once they introduced to sin for eating the apple. Once their mind was corrupt that’s when the looked at each other’s bodies more then just a body. I know my Bible come correct
If Tamera isn't the cutest wifey that ever was
She really is
When your Muslim and can’t relate because you cover head to toe anyway.... 😂
Thank LORD I'm Muslim ! Our religion is so easy, we aren't debating about things like that.
Sorry.
And only got one original testament
T B no one...you’re expressing yourself and be happy
@@Arbnvbe Are you sure? LOL countries like Cyprus, Albania and Turkey most def ARE debating stuff like that because most of the Muslims there do not cover up and they drink alcohol, etc.
Let’s use common sense, you can’t come to church in a mini skirt, just be appropriate that’s all, there’s different outfits for different occasions, there’s a time & place for everything
agreed.
But dont judge them.
They may not have appropriate attire for church, you never really know someone story or where they come from. But if they are looking to be saved Jesus is always waiting with open arms no matter what they are wearing. We can work on clothing later lets work on the soul first
Period. Bashment dress , Is not for church.
@@vandy5206 telling people they should dress appropriately is not judging
EVERYONE knows you should dress modestly at church. You don't have to be Christian to know that. Now not everyone has the means to be dressy clothes and I understand that. But at least cover up.
I feel like everybody always assumes that everybody else knows what they know. Wasn't there a time before you knew something? Would it have been fair for folks to just assume you knew it already, and judge you based on their assumption?
@@KiraBKADestroyerOfWorlds Yea when I was a child...... it's 2019, not the Stone Age. There is internet and if you are adult, you should have common sense...
Exactly!!! You already know!
I wasn't taken regularly to church and wasn't raised with Christian values but I knew that you should dress modestly in church!
B.S. MBA you like the pastors who kick people out of church?
I’ve watched so many of these and Jeannie is definitely my fav she’s so REAL, honest and transparent in the best way
I come modest cause the Bible encourages us to, I still have style though . At some point lifestyle must change in Christianity.youre supposed be the light and change in the world , different from the world
Yess! Modesty!!🙌🏼☺️
Alhamdulilha Am a Muslim girl so i cover all my body Am not go anywhere without my ijab this is my world 😘😘😘😘
For real. I dont go to church anymore mostly because if the people. Yeah yeah, i know church is about God not the people but it got to me too much. No, it wasnt because of how people dressed. However, I've seen churches where i couldnt tell if the people were coming from a club or an awards show.
Alexa got to find a church that’s preaches the gospel and doesn’t water it down to make people happy . My pastor will get in faces and tell the women to put their boobs away if a top is to low😂😂😂. Women just don’t want to be challenged to do right.. personally I came in the church at 16 (3 yrs ago )heavily influenced by the world so I wore short skirts and crop tops. Luckily I had a older lady in her 40’s tell me what was up!
@@briannau.9492 I hear ya. Where I live there arent many churches of my religion. There are mostly very conservative. Its mostly people above their 60s and their grand kids. As a young adult, it would be good to have something more blanaced. So i just dont go. I plan to move away where there is more access to a more ethnic and age diverse church
yes the bible says come as you are.... but when you start to yield to him you would never remain the same. and that's it, you come unto Him at one level and He will take you to the next, unto another level etc. BUT no one who truly gives themselves to Christ remains the same. and yes we as Christian's are responsible for ourselves as well as others aswell in a lot of ways
Yes this comment.
Amen
I agree that is why we can’t judge when we see those coming to church dress as such b/c we don’t know their journey with GOD. They’re probably still figuring it out and will become the better version later on. It’s a process so why judge them and make them feel discourage.
Come as you are everyone. We all eventually learn and do better. The first time you see someone in church is not the time to educate them on how inappropriate their outfit is. Show love and when the person becomes born again,trust me they will dress appropriately for church
@Fitore Salihi I am a christian but that doesn't mean I follow everything written in the bible. that statement and w lot of sexist ones in the new testament was made by St paul. Great man of God but still human
@Fitore Salihi I follow Jesus and the holyspirit guides me. The bible is a book documenting what happened in history and it doesn't give the full story. Alot of things St paul said was him responding the the different churches that wrote to him in their time of crises. Things should always be out in context. I know the bible through and through, I grew up in church but eventually also accepted Jesus as my lord and saviour. You do not have to "get" it. Salvation is personal
@Fitore Salihi Lets not act like alot of cultures are not sexist? The stories in the bible were written in a different time than we leave now. Paul to me made a lot of comments that I consider sexist but It wasnt sexist in the time he was living in Im sure
Romans 14:13 “Therefor let us stop passing judgment on one another. Instead, make up your mind not to put any stumbling block or obstacle in the way of a brother or sister.”
Tameras' soul is so beautiful God I love that woman. She has such a good soul I can only imagine how much her children just adore her.
The church is a place of WORSHIP. Dress accordingly.
Oh give me a break, it's not about being responsible for other people's misbehavior... it's about having RESPECT for a place of worship!
If someone is stumbling that’s their problem
@@br00klynnative58 It is their problem, and that's why their at church...to fix it. To leave an alcoholic in a room with a bottle of whiskey is devisive and mean-spirited. Likewise with the issue of lust. We should not just be concerned with our own selves but also the lives of others and be conscientious of the fact that though their struggle may not look the same as our own, it's still a fight.
"What's she doing smoking outside of the church" I laughed so hard at the way she said that😂😂😂😂
Please y'all, nowhere in the Bible does it say we should throw out the Old Testament and just take the New Testament 😂.
Justina Adarkwah PERIOD.
Yes 100% you keep both the old and new testaments both are necessary.
@@myspaceintexas I don't think she meant it's said in the Bible
Justina Adarkwah 😂
Some of the instructions in the old testament were revised in the new testament. That's all she was trying to say
You need to be dressed appropriately at church. No one is saying you have to go dressed like a nun but you do need to be dressed respectful of the Lord's presence. And no you dont need to be smoking outside a church. Point blank. Some places deserve to he reverenced and the church is one of those places. You have no business going to church in the same clothes you wore to the club.
Preach Sista!! #HolinessWithout
The Lord’s presence is everywhere though. That’s why technically, you should be dressing modest anywhere you go
They going all around in circles. 🙄 MORAL OF THE STORY: DONT DRESS LIKE A STRIPPER!!!!
I love how Adrienne says “panties” 🤣
I grew up catholic and it really bugged me how a lot of the women would wear tight dresses or show cleavage at church. Like really in front of the priest? It’s not a club it’s a place of worship.
It's so inappropriate to dress indecently to anywhere as a child of God, somethings should be different about you as an ambassador of Christ. From your appearance to your comportment, we should be Christlike, no double standards and nothing like its trending in the kingdom of GOD.
Waste of skin since they probably weren't the priests type anyway
@@kissit012 lol
Amen
I agree.
Modesty and decency is not only about church. It's about everything, every place. We are always to have decency, modesty wherever we are as Christians, not only church.
Tamera is so classy and educated, and is proud to voice her opinion, even if it's different. I love her!
2 Corinthians 5:17 “Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.”
The Holy Spirit has made me understand that if a person comes to church and is there to persevere in the Lord and wants to serve Him with all their heart God will do the change that is necessary. The Holy Spirit will let you know whether something isn’t right before the Lord. Yes come as you are but no to stay that way give God you’re heart and he will change you for good and you will have a better life. Jesus is Life! God bless you all!
As a Muslim woman who wears hijab, I always feel like I’m dressed for “church” bc I can’t feel any other way in such a covering outfit.
"Don't go to the old testament, the old testament will hurt your feelings" LMAO I love her
When you go to church you dress accordingly just like when you go to church you dress accordingly. It's a family environment and people should not dress improper. But I will also like to add that the church is not supposed to be judgemental. The church is supposed to teach, help, save lives, and bring people to christ, it's supposed to be a environment where everyone feels able to come in and worship. Anyone should feel protected and loved when entering a church.
I feel like I’m the only 14 year old who watches the REAL💜
Nah I'm 14
Noo
I'm 13 almost 14. I might have heard too much at the end. 😳😂🤚
ive been watching since i was 12 😭😭
i am 16 and started at 13 lol
Here in Latino America we go in jeans, sneakers and t-shirts, at least where I live. That's how we dress everyday and as long as you don't go on a bikini there's no problem
preach Loni. yes common sense. there's an entire for every event... respect for the Lord and our heavenly Father dress MODESTLY..
I LOVE Tam and her relationship w her hubby🤣😍🤣☺️
I love tam sooooo much ❤️😝🥰 she’s literally me corny and sweet as ever
“We already saved... we good”😭😭”A” kills me
Right.... like if you're saved the rules don't apply
Quiana White that’s what most these people think until armageddon and God will depart the unrighteous..
In my opinion, it's only okay to "come as you are" if you're just starting, but you don't "stay as you are." As God transforms your inside, your outside gotta have that glow (appropriately) also. And if your "come as you are" is inappropriate, let it be that it's all you have... Don't choose to be inappropriate.
& Jeanine, no you're not responsible for anyone stumbling... But as simple as dressing properly, you're doing the work of God, you're saving that soul.
And as for the dress code part, from my point of view, you don't go to meet the president in jeans and sneakers, so don't go to Christ like that.
common now! better preach it
why do ya care about someone else's clothes so much? people out here trying to survive and you're over here talking about modesty as something you need to think of all the time. what is modest even? it changes with each person and religion.
@@whatever6796 this is your opinion, and I respect it, so please respect mine 😃
@Secret Encounterlol everyone is entitled to their own opinions, I just shared mine.
All in all there ain't no right or wrong way to praise God, once you are sincere!
Marcel was rlly struggling to get that jug on the table 😂😂
I don't like when the pastor is super rich and flaunts it while members of the congregation are poor and barely have food in the house and giving what they can. I love church but I don't like what it has become, it's more like entertainment for show and some members are really gossipers and holy rollers who judge. I'm Christian and I care more about how you make ppl feel than what you wear in church. Of course you don't want ppl wearing very short clothing but for some ppl that could be all they have.
It’s why the Bible says beware of the wolves in sheep’s clothing, personally I wouldn’t bother moving from the church as to seeing it as an opportunity to veer it back to God’s direction. However, if you can’t stand it then u should really leave it for it’s not a place for u to grow. But remember that not every church is perfect that is y u should constantly read your Bible and constantly continue to grow your relationship with Him
Yeah change churches
I prefer not to go to a big church
Those people that own it are more well off than a small church most times
And the community isn't as tight as a small church
I don't like when it's too small that if I don't go then Sunday school doesn't happen
Medium size is good
U have the feeling of family and you know the church still meets if you don't show up for a week
I don't believe that everybody got a cellphone and
Wearing tattoos so I know they can afford to go buy some decent clothes for church
Kayla G most pastors are not super rich. You’re talking about mega churches. The average, everyday church pastor’s wardrobe is regular. Sometimes pastors are struggling financially too. The tithing is for church remodeling, expanding, amenities, and missionary work. Whatever is left over is for the pastor, and it’s often not much!
@@forever_evolving_5312
We're not talking about pastors wardrobes we're talking about people who attend church who are not talk by their pastors to dress decentlynot coming to church with tight clothes on and short dresses looking like you are a hoochie mama I have been too large and medium sized churches and this is what I have experienced
There's a time and place for everything. You dont go to your moms house dressed in your tight club dresses. Why to the house of God?*
I cant even wear some stuff around my brother
He be like where you going in that
Go put on clothes
And I dont even dress revealing 😂 much
House of God?😆🤣
@@jasibae00 That's another way people call church lol
@@jasibae00 Whats funny?
Yall in the comments being hypocritical as hell.
"ThE bIbLe SaY dReSs MoDeStLy"
But yall dont do that all the time.
Yall wanna be up in the club everything exposed Saturday night but wanna pretend to be all Holy and Modest in church Sunday morning.
Childddd
If yall dont stop
Shania Acker
Girl stfu.
Do you go to an office job dressed like you’re about to go to a club.
Do you go to a job interview dressed like you’re going to a club.
Do you go to funerals, weddings, or charities dressed like you’re going to a club?
I highly doubt it and if you are, then your lack of respect for each individual occasion is typical of a trash human being.
Why is it that any time the church has reason to defend its traditions, people like you are always so desperate to oppose it? If you’re a Christian, have some respect for your damn religion. It’s not that difficult.
I kinda see what u mean...bit at the same time...at least they going to church...js
Modesty is the best policy when you decided to enter to any faith houses - temple, shrines, mosque, church, etc.
Is it just me or Tam always cracks me up with her Escapade stories with Adam
Jeannie said, "I dress for the lord". So what you tryna be sexy for the lord?
I was kind of confused by that too.
🤣
She got lost in the stew. Haha
My thoughts exactly haha I hope she only meant like at church and not all the time 🤔
From what I’ve googled, a boat neck is not revealing at all lol. I get very excited dressing up for church and it’s not for any man there. I’m not some holy holy pure person but I’d still try to look cute and modest. But a boat neck blouse isn’t anything crazy.
Everyone Christian on that panel answered so worldly it saddens me. Loni is the ONLY one that went to the Bible. Open your eyes world just because someone says they are Christian doesn’t mean they are. That panel needs to open up their eyes and not answer things by their own understanding and always speak Gods words not their own.
I agree with you. I was proud of Loni for going to the bible. The bible is our guide as Christians.
Jolie Geo amen
I think jeenie answered worldly
Adrienne and tamera were saying you come as you are then as you learn better you do better
human being amen! It’s sad these are the people others who don’t know Christ consider Christians. They have Jesus all messed up. 🤦🏽♀️
Derv they are all super worldly answers. 🥺
Tamera :"Oh the gush gush" 😂😂😂😂😂
Listen! Stop sugar coating things. You need to cover up. The word says it. Period ! 🤦🏾♀️
We have to mindful of people and dress respectfully some are weak and yes that may not be something we face personally but we do it out of love for others and obedience to God. The Lord says come as ylu are not stay as you are. And like Tamera said we co.e to God and its him that cleans us up and teaches us as we go. He still working on me. All Glory to God.
Tamera is adorable omg she love her some Adam
Well coming from a catholic and Mexican family.. my church dressed how ever they like.. but also I remember when the father (priest) actually said something regarding the dress code... because it was getting out of hand and girl were wearing tube tops and short shorts.. some people don’t have any brain cells that’s just how I see it.
Brian cells had me gone 🤣🤣You're right though.. No révérence to God
I dress modestly and don’t judge others like tamera said because we don’t know where they are at in life and with Christ.
But Jeanie the Bible does say that we should be careful to not make others stumble. Instead of getting offended for what that lady told you, you should have talked to the lord about it and went into scripture or even could of had a conversation with the lady to try and understand where she was coming from. And we are accountable as a Christian our goal is to be welcoming to people in a way where they are going to feel comfortable because to be honest if you walk up to a church which I have and the pastor is wearing super tight clothes to the point where it catches people’s attention or if women are wearing short dresses with a lot of cleavage showing it is going to take people’s attention from the word which what the church should be focusing on showing instead of making it seem like it’s a fashion show because it’s not.
For you were called to freedom, brothers. Only do not use your freedom as an opportunity for the flesh, but through love serve one another. Galatians 5:13
Tamera is literally the cutest 😂❤️
Love protects. Yes; we're all adults, but if we love one another, we should go the little extra mile to protect our brothers and sisters.
At my church you can wear whatever most people wear their regular clothes just jeans and a T-shirt
Don’t throw out the Old Testament. Lol everything in the New Testament is verified through the old testament so...Nahw Fam. Loni, what church do you go to? What the what?
Smh at that comment. People actually preach this mess
I agree you can not throw out the old Testament because it connects with the New Testament. Maybe she meant how we as Christians no longer live under the old covenant but are under the new covenant.
La-Neka Brown I really don’t think she meant it like that. For example, in the Old Testament it says you can’t wear clothing of 2 different materials (so you couldn’t wear wool and linen, and various other combinations). Obviously that doesn’t apply to now. This goes for many other verses, like a disabled/deformed person shouldn’t approach God, if you sin he’ll make you eat your children, and if you sin you should cut off your hand. Yes I’m cherry-picking verses to make a point but the situations in which God said you should follow certain rules don’t literally translate to now because society has evolved to be completely different. Although, the principles are still there. When you sin, give yourself a slap on the wrist instead of cutting off your whole hand. Did I explain myself well enough?
The old testament was a foreshadow for Jesus Christ...u still read and learn from the old testament but we use the new testament for how to behave and act...
Loni 🤣 “show me them raspberries again” aaahahahahahaha
Everytime i see Adrienne’s makeup i wanna start getting ready and copy her look loll
Lol Tamera's raspberry thing was funny/cute hahahaha. Btw, I'm surprised no one commented on what Loni said about throwing out the Old Testament or whatever. We are in the New Covenant, yes, but that doesn't mean throw out an entire 3 quarters of the Bible. All of Jesus' teachings and parables were based on the Old Testament. He often expanded on them or explained them, because they were so misunderstood by His own people. There's some things in there we don't understand, but there's a lot of love and encouragement found in the Old Testament as well. When reading any portion of the Bible, it's important to understand the context! Context, and modern applicability. Things about how to dress in the OT were more pertaining to the high priest. God was very particular about what the high priest had to wear when ministering in the temple. I don't remember seeing anything in the OT about how the general congregation should dress. (Please correct me if I'm wrong. Am I the only one who doesn't see an angry God when I read the OT? Put things in perspective)
Adrienne said it. Those in ministry should dress modestly. Like someone on the praise team should not dress in a way to be a distraction. Save or not we are flesh. A man or woman can be distracted by what someone has on. And yes they have the choice to close their eyes and set their minds on Chirst. But at the end of the day why would someone in ministry still project the image of the world. God should be represented in lifestyle and not form or fashion only on Sundays.
Why is Loni reading from the prompt the funniest thing ever 😂😂
I had a related experience, not in church, but in a subway car earlier this summer which involved Christian faith and temptation.
I keep myself covered in all seasons, and mostly enjoy wearing dresses, but also real denim (I dislike thin, elastic denim) when I do wear jeans. I button up my collared shirts.
When men eyeball me and give negative attention, I sometimes pray and/or make the sign of The Cross. Sometimes they persist; sometimes, look or walk away.
If The Bible says not to encourage temptation, God is always right! I might be wrong or sinning in wearing pants at all. As to Adrienne's point about our looks not being responsible for someone else's sin....well, it just reminded me of the story.
One man who was sitting, but looking back toward the door I was standing against, saw me communing with The Lord, and felt *convicted* .
He actually signed The Cross as well! He then hung his head into his hands and kept it there. 🙏 🙏 💙
Hey Loni! I am a millenial and I know how metabolism slowing down goes. 😭😭🤣😂
@john smith I have no issue being a home owning 28 year old millennial
I'm a millennial too. Since when is that a bad thing? Smh.
@@candlecane It's not. People stereotype, but there are losers and productive people in every generation.
@@ArmednotTriggered I don't pay attention to those stereotypes. Earlier generations said the same things about them yet they stupidly continue the cycle.
1. The bible does not say come as you are.
2. Why is it that when we talk about church, everyone gets sensitive about judgement. LISTEN when you go to work or a court house there is a certain dress code of modesty and no one questions it, when we talk About dressing appropriately for church there is no consideration and everyone gets in their feelings.
3. If we're talking about people who are just starting to come to church then that's something I can understand that you don't want to judge them but if it's someone that's been coming to church for a while and they just don't care and no one is saying this is the way that you should be then there's a problem. As far as what Adrienne says about men, at the end of the day a man is a man and don't nobody want to see a woman shaking up herself with no tight dress on when you're trying to live for God and stay faithful to your wife or stay celibate until you get married, ain't nobody got time for that. Same goes for men ain't nobody want to see their balls poking out in tight pants. I'm sorry but we take things too far sometimes, like time always says it's not what you say but how you say it and at the end of the day we should be able to come to each other as brothers and sisters and say hey this is right or this isn't right. maybe buy them a skirt or dress that fits improperly instead of just bashing them and making them feel bad. Whatever you say and do just say it and love and people should be humble enough to take criticism in a loving way just like how they would have to take it at their job.
Couldnt have said it better!
Thanks u made the best sense here 👍
Hearing tamera talk about Adam literally had me laughing out loud! I love how personal all the girls get, it makes for good honest comedy lol!! Can't make up "sucking his neck fat"
In the older bible God was angry and put people to death over smaller things. So I believe yes it should matter.
rani sundar not true
rani sundar Sid God kill Adam and Eve when they disobeyed him?
Their sin is why death is a thing...
Adrienne is so funny saying please wear your panties to church lol. this why I love my church they come in with jeans and a shirts they don't judge you for what you wear
Noooo 😭 TamTam is tooo much with the raspberries 💕
I think people need to go back to the bible and re-read it and understand it before making assumptions. I totally disagree with Jeannie on this one. And Jeannie you can’t just anyhow overly sexily to a church, is not a club or a rave, that doesn’t you dressed overly modest either, the thing people to have a balance to how their dress to the house of the Lord, without out disrespecting God’s house, if your dressing is making people uncomfortable or people are staring at you, then yes Jeannie you can be held partly responsible for people back sliding. People should just be respectful and keep it pushing.
WOMEN SHOULD DRESS MODEST PERIOD..INSIDE AND OUTSIDE CHURCH
I am the pastor's son at my church. One night I spent the night at a friends house and we went out, Easter Sunday was the next morning and I came to church in a tank top and jeans. My dad asked me not to come back to church and said I had no respect for God's house. I felt that he should have been happy I was there instead of trying to shame me.
I meeean were they ripped jeans 🤔
iLeona296 Na, they were black H&M designer jeans.
Andrea Gomez I didn’t have an extra pair of clothes because I didn’t plan on spending the night.
Regardless of how you were dressed,well done for going.
SarahA That’s not fair... I wore what I had and my heart was in the right place because I came to church to celebrate the savior and not to participate in a fashion show.
Let’s be real...The truth is the way you act, speak and dress can have a huge impact on someone else’s behaviour. That’s why we encourage people not to be verbally abusive/bully because it can break someone’s spirit and cause them to harm themselves.
Are we then going to say that everybody is only responsible for what they do and not how it affects the next person??? Come on.
As soldiers, firemen and the police have a uniform that affects the way other “adults” behave around them, the way we choose to dress can affect the way people perceive and behave around us.
“Come as you are” is not even the end of that biblical implication (because the statement itself it’s nowhere in the bible). The bible says “Come, let us reason together, though your sins be red as scarlet, they we will be white as snow”.
This references a cleansing, a change. I.E if you really came to God, and not for yourself or just to “have a good time” you will not leave the same.
Dress modestly y’all...in and out of church. As true ambassadors of Christ.
None Newenski Thank you sooo much. ❤❤👏👏👏. God bless you
Thank you, thank you, thank you!!! I can’t with Jeannie ugh.
If I wouldn’t wear it to a job interview then I wouldn’t wear it to a church. And I agree with Jeanie, I am not responsible for someone else’s misbehavior.
Come on people it's only one hour a day respect the church go classy for one hour not trashy geez 🙄😒 common sense
just for one hour?? u gotta be joking!!! be decent always!!
@@biancahotca3244 well people need to be comfortable to give them a break 🙄 especially here in sunny California around the summer we're not going to be walking around dressed like nuns all the time geez 🙄
Your church only last one hour😳
What church is that?
@@ddh19454 I'm proud to be a Catholic and yes only 1 hour
@@celyavila291 and that's American Catholic?
What do you do for one hour?
You have praise and worship
Offering
Testimony
Scripture reading
Preaching
????
You do not throw out the Old Testament, you have to take the whole counsel of God. To be a Christian is not about feelings but to obey God. Yes, we as Christians are not to make another stumble. We are to help others come to the Lord by how we live to the Lord.
@Fitore Salihi Who is making a new version? A new version of what?
@Bee If you read any part of the old testament, you will come across the pre-incarnate Christ and even shadows of Christ. Read Isaiah 53, who is the prophet Isaiah refering to?
@Fitore Salihi Don't these version also include the Old Testament?
@Fitore Salihi Show me where I am cherry picking? There are many versions of the Bible because of the various methods of translating from the Greek/Hebrew to English. There are not versions because the content is different. Pick up any version and read them side by side. They don't tell a different story. It is the same no matter what version you use. Do you understand what I am trying to tell you?
@Fitore Salihi Did I remove any of these verses? In all of the versions of bibles that I have all of these verses are there! So, what bible are you referring to?
At the end of the day, it’s important to be aware of what you wear. It’s church for God’s sake, not a club. There is nothing wrong with modesty, there is nothing wrong with adding flare and style. A matching purse or a cute jewelry set. I feel like people abuse the whole “God knows my heart.” Little by little we should become aware.
Also don’t just throw away the Old Testament. That is crazy foolishness. You can’t just rip out parts of the Bible, the Bible is defined as a collection of books, you can’t just ignore the parts you don’t like 😑
Let's be honest God doesn't really care about what anyone wears to church he's just glad that you're there.😇
Big ol family reunion on Sundays at my grandma's. . Then my mom and dad were back door neighbors as they grew up and got married .long time friends they were so holidays all my mom's brothers and sisters and their kids were at my mom's mom's And my dad at his mom's with the family there I just had to jump the back fence to go back and forth. ..good old days
I agree with Tam Tam on this one. Personally I like wearing dresses or skirts to church, but I will occasionally throw in pants every now and again. I think you should come as you are and one day as you continue your walk with Christ you will start dressing differently. For that woman to come up to Jeannie like that is simply unacceptable and that's how a lot of lost souls leave the church discouraged and don't come back. God calls us to love and sometimes you need to show love and let God do the work in that persons life before you see a change.
Adrienne looks BOMB! i love this classy low-ponytail look on her
like my mother says “it’s all about the intention; the condition of the heart.”
I don’t like that Loni tried to say “well what if your husband” if I married him, that means I trust him, and I know he’s not gonna do anything disgraceful. That also goes to Jeannie’s point, if he did do something disgraceful, that’s on him not her. She’s not responsible for his behavior. Hold these men accountable for their actions instead of treating them like defenseless children
Romans 14:21 KJV
[21] It is good neither to eat flesh, nor to drink wine, nor any thing whereby thy brother stumbleth, or is offended, or is made weak.
Ppl R Responsible for their own actions N r 2 own up 2 it. But others shouldn’t b a stumbling block....
You don't catch The Holy Spirit smh!! I agree with Loni and the rest of them need to quit playing and stop trying to please the world!!
You know how many women fight butt naked in them streets and they love Jesus.
what do you mean?
Nandini Singh huh
What do you mean by 'love Jesus'?? how I wish loving Jesus was just by lips 😏
Nandini Singh XD also in the stripclub most of these strippers bust spilts exposing their bodies for a dollar and later on a Sunday morning yelling “praise the lord” 🥴
They can come as they are n God will change their ways nevertheless modesty is required..abt the stumble part that's true and u have to be responsible. Read the bible n then talk church.
"Timothy 2 , chapter 9" 😂😂😂 Oh Loni
I'm not offended when people aren't covered, I'm offended by the people who go there and flaunt their wealth, esp people in the ministry wearing Rolex watches and Ralf Lauren shirts. Jesus preached modesty, he preached sharing and feeding the poor. He died defending the weak. He said, "Blessed are the meek". So don't go there and flaunt your money and bling when people are struggling to put food in the fridge and a roof over their heads. Share your wealth. Be like Christ. We should all strive to be more and more like Jesus Christ! He should be our only role model. Long live the spirit of Jesus Christ (and I'm not even a Christian!). When you know the truth, you know!
Tamera...... girlfriend! lmao. she’s such a cutie lol
My mom always told the story about going to a wedding and having the option to drink the adult punch or the kids punch. There were people from church there and she happened to drink from the kids table and she influenced another member to do the same. So I understand the "stumble" comment. However...with more knowledge comes from responsibility. I'm glad my mom chose what she did.
Marcel had that awkward moment tryna put that pitcher on the table that I hate😂
Maybe it’s not about it being a sin or God judging you, maybe it’s about what is appropriate for the occasion and inappropriate for the occasion, everybody know that to a farm you wear jeans and to church you cover up. No matter what church your going to.🤷🏻♀️
Loni’s story made me laugh so hard about the underwear
Some people are worrying only how to be looking good not how they supposed to wear when they’re in church.
Yes come as you are, your conviction will change you to be modest. Trust me it happened to me and I didn’t even notice.