All the kids living their dream 80% will not be successful. For every Will Smith there are 5 million Won't Smiths. Adrienne is the only one making sense.
Doesn't mean you give up one what you really want. The chances might be small, but that doesn't mean they can't do it. That kid might be that next one. Yes, have a back up plan, but for the love of God, *dream* big. I'm with Jeannie 1000%
EXACTLY.... what’s wrong with being a teacher, nurse, doctor, or lawyer!! Everyone is not gonna be beyonce, cardi b, lebron james! Always have a plan b
Let’s not place your perception on others! For every basic their are 10x doing greatness! For every doubter their our 20% who believe in self. Maybe if we would stopped being raised by mothers who held your mind frame more would live to their potential! I feel sorry for your children and most of all I pity you! With that self talk and belief system it’s no wonder you sit at the bottom! Please rise above this low mentality she is oh so boring and basic it no wonder nothing spectacular has happened within her own existence! We are what we believe ourselves to be do not be like this common commentator please!
Trying to go against what Adrienne was saying like they didn’t know wtf she was talking about. You should always have a plan B even the ladies sitting at the table have side hustles aka a plan B 🙄
I'm so sorry, I've been watching the real for 3 years now and adrienne's delivery doesn't hit a lot of the times. Like I literally wait until someone else on the panel clarify's for her so I can understand point she's trying to get across.
k P You’re so right! But On this topic, I feel that what she’s saying isn’t hard to understand at all. I would absolutely want my children to go after their dreams but I would also want them to be realistic. You have to eat In the meantime. Nothing wrong with having a plan b.
I agree with Adrienne. God, I WISH I had some doubt that I wouldn’t be an actress because I put all my eggs in that basket and I am suffering now.. I never went to college and at 30 I have to start all over again! Listen to your parents! You have your whole life to live out a dream like being an actor. Go to school and you’ll be able to use those skills in your craft later. ♥️ Don’t want anyone experiencing what I am now. ♥️
Penny Parker I hope you’re in a better place able to pursue acting. I decided to get two degrees bc my parents said I had to and I am grateful bc I am now in a better place to be able to afford all the things needed to be an actor! See you on the big screen 🎭
Same I’m 31 now had multiple careers and I just now have realized I dont want to work in health care... which was something that was pushed in my my whole life!! I wanna be a baker lol
Melissa T get it girl!! You write your heart out! I love writing as well but growing up I have worked in restaurants until I landed a job at the hospital and I just remember the good old times I had in the kitchen. I would like a cafe/sandwich shop but focused more on baked goods
Adrienne is right! And Tameras mother needs to right a parenting book she raise happy, beautiful,smart, God fearing men and woman! And I need this for my children!
Yes ,glamorize beeing a doctor or a nurse or a educator ..lets glamorize careers that will show us so many things...There is more to life than TV and IG.
They never said to dress up as role models. I agree with Adrienne and also it’s easy to put a jersey on and dress up. The school just wants them to think about careers they just gave a bad explanation.
The thing with becoming an actor or singer is that someone else decides if you're gonna become those things at least on a large scale. If noone hires you for roles, that's it, career over.
Yes and no. A lot of very very successful actors created their own opportunities and the industry came to them. Matt Damon, Ben Affleck, Tina Fey, Issa Rae, Donald Glover. All people who created their own opportunities.
@@mckenzie.8653 spot on bro. There is room for everyone in the world you just have to create your own opportunities. We get stuck because we want to be given an opportunity instead of work our way to our dream. We all have purpose, passions + talents and those are the tools we should use to live a life of service.
Come one Loni , you know what Adrienne was saying 🙄nothing wrong with dreaming but if you’re trying to be a Star but don’t have star power then what are you going to do? even the brightest of stars need a plan b , plan b doesn’t always mean college. Like Adrienne was saying “ a skill-set” . Go to a trade school and get that under your belt. I’m sorry but there’s nothing wrong with getting an education in an capacity. No one can ever take that from you.
Rae Baylor it’s literally just dressing up tho it’s not making a permanent decision of what the kids career is gonna be it ain’t that serious. Nothing wrong with having big or crazy dreams in this instance idk why y’all acting like it’s the real deal
That is what Loni did, but deep down inside she wanted to be a comedian. She worked 8 years as an engineer even though that was not her dream. Sometimes your plan B, becomes your plan A, thats what she means. Dont waste your young years. Follow your dreams and Plan A first. If you fail? You can always go to college at an older age. Or go to a trade school at an older age. At least you know from the age of 15-25 you put all your effort into your plan A.
I agree with Adrienne. It's good to have dreams but you have to be realistic about it. Not everyone is going to become huge like the people they mentionned. These people became who they are because, along with the determination, the belief, the talent, the hard work, they also had the good timing, the universe had those plans for them. So, it's better to be practical. I love photography and wanted to become one but the truth is that is really hard to make photography as your main profession. No matter how good you are. So, i work on that as a passion and I also do studies in law on the side. You need to have more than one dream. I know a girl who wanted to be a succeful model. She worked as model but also worked in hotel management as a plan b. At some point, the modeling world required that she does a certain things (compromise) if she wanted to work with BIG fashion designers. She was not comfortable with that so she continued her way in hotel managment.
I 100% get you on that, I would have become a photographer but now I’m an interior decor student instead. Funny enough I have the highest photo grade in the college [98%] and profs always ask me why I didn’t choose it as a main profession
@@alaasusername I was told the same at an internship in a tourism office but it's too risky. Unfortunately, one can't make a living on photography. That's why one has to hustle. I think no parents should tell their kids this unrealistic idea that you can be anything you want. It's dangerous
C C I think they are going to have a different perspective because if they didn’t believe in themselves they wouldn’t be on TV now. And they probably heard their entire life they wouldn’t be where they are now
I am 100% with Adrienne. You need to have a plan b in order to work. Not everyone can be the new Beyonce or simply achieve their dreams, at that point what you gonna do? People need to stop with this storytelling, yes it's important to have dreams, but keep in mind that not EVERYONE will be able to do what they wanted to do.
As a librarian I see kids all the time doing these kinds of projects, not based on what they wanted to do, but what would be easy or look cute. Like a kid who dresses as Beyonce, but never sings a note because they just like Beyonce and have a yellow dress. They don't want to be a singer. Or they dress up as a sports star because they've got a jersey, not that they ever get off the couch and play sports. If I were a teacher I'd do like a lot of teachers do book reports. Give them a list and tell them to pick one. That way it's an actual project.
The only thing I'm gonna say is that most celebrities are only now chasing after professional degrees. And I agree with Adrienne, we do not glamourise these professional courses and instinctively humans wanna take the easy route out. Going to college and getting a degree is hard, and I am adamant about the fact that college prepares you for a lot of things and teaches you a lot of transferable skill set.
You know how many people end up homeless or working at Starbucks their entire life because they never had a plan B thinking they were going to be an “actress”... And to the point of a “degree sitting on the shelf catching dust”, formal education will change you and give you fundamental skills that you can use every single day. There are multiple reasons why people don’t/can’t pursue higher education, so I don’t want to undermine someone’s struggle but most of the time you can CLEARLY tell when you speak to someone who hasn’t gone to college, and that alone is a major differentiator.
Honestly, I WISH schools would be more realistic. I grew up thinking I could do anything, but no one tells you the arts are completely money based. Don't tell them they can't do it. Tell them it still be hard as hell but go for it if they REALLY want it.
Loni is the perfect example of this. Life goes on while you’re pursuing your dreams. You need to be able to take care of yourself and family while working on your dream in preparation for your “big break.” I’m with Adrienne and Tamera’s mom 👍🏿
I’m glad we had this topic because I recently watched an episode of one of my favorite shows “ Facts of Life “ and it was an episode where Tootie’s dad had came to Eastland and when he found out she wanted to own a salon with Natalie... he made a big deal out of it because it wasn’t what HE wanted her to do in life... which is why as a parent you need to break the curse of “ well since my parents did it and I did it , my child has to do it too “ & continue this legacy of doing something they aren’t passionate about... Also realize that your 11 or 12 year child may end up changing their mind on what career field they want to be in by the time they are 16... but you have to allow them to ! Let your children develop and make their own decisions and choices and trust them !
It IS ridiculous. My first thought was, to even assume there are only a FEW jobs in the world that are so hard to achieve is ridiculous. So glad Tamara spoke my mind on that bit. Secondly, I 100% agree with Adrienne about still having a hustle and with Jeannie for saying a kid should be able to dream it before all the realities really hit them. There will be enough factors in the world to deter them or encourage them later on. You can teach your kids about falling off of the ladder but don't stop them from climbing it to begin with.
I agree with what Tamara said. Her mother didn't discourage them from their dreams. She supported them in what they wanted but encouraged them to get an education just in case. That way you have something to fall back on. This is a great balance. You may have that degree sitting on the shelf however, when your fame is gone, then you have that degree to fall back on. You're not just stuck. Always have a back-up plan.
This is a very, very good thing. Part of the problem I and many millenials had is that we didn't start doing the hard work of figuring out what we *actually* wanted to do until college. Its important to acknowledge dreams and encourage them, but also encouraging them to have a Plan B. Being a doctor isn't the same thing as being an entertainer. There's a clear path to that career, and there is never a dearth of doctors - we always need more. Jeannie's thing about degrees that you don't want or use...that's solved by encouraging kids to do the hard work early - by encouraging them to be other things. And Adrienne is right, most people wanting to be a pro sports player or singer only want it because they have an unrealistic idea of that entails. Let's be clear: these women are victims of survivorship bias. They're letting all the people who made it and ignoring the hundreds of thousands of people in LA, Atlanta, Nashville, NYC and Seattle RIGHT NOW who have been doing the work for a decade or two, but haven't gotten anywhere.
I think you have to follow your "passion". Most people don't have a passion. They have interests. Also, a lot of these are examples of very exceptional instances. 100 people might make it, but millions fail, even if they're great at it.
8:20 I wanted to be a lawyer which I thought was a great field but the family wanted me to be a nurse and I HATE HOSPITALS. Long story short, I took multiple major and racked up student loans so now I'm a dropout (for now) with student loans. I just wanna make fashion items and help people.
Have a wise Plan B. I like Adrienne’s example about music engineering to lead to producing. They relate. Don’t say I want to be a music producer, but I’ll go study biology as a backup.
Then I’d dress up as an escort lol I literally considered that in the past when I was drowning in debt and had no job. Thank GOD I didn’t do it though, I don’t think I would be able to actually do it but I thought about it for a while there 😶
Growing up I never could figure out what I want to do on a serious note. I never had a passion. I was jealous because my brother seemed to have his life figured out so young and so did his fiancé. Now, it’s switched. I know what I want with my life finally and my brothers changed his mind and going back to school. Everyone finds their path!!
Adrienne is right. Not everyone who wants be an actor, doctor, teacher, lawyer, singer will be that. Cause if no one wants to hire you, what r u going to do? Of course u can create your own opportunities but think of something else that u like as a plan be to fall on if your own opportunities dont work. A lot of people wants to be this and that but end up in somebody's basement because of no plan. Make the plan, execute the plan.
Your job as a parent is to make your kids the best THEM they can be, not the best YOU. Don’t make them fulfill what was your dream. Help them fulfill theirs.
RIGHT !! WE DONT GLAMIRIZE being teachers, doctors, lawyers, journalist, etc... we glamirize pop stars, models, influencers (damm🤦♀️🤦♀️), so that’s that (and yeah, I’m saying that being obsessed with Instagram, BUT I’m studying marketing 🙌🏼✨)
Like Lonnie said you need a hustle. Ways to make money. Whether it is considered professional or not. When I was younger all I wanted to do was be a nurse and move up in my field. But now that Im 29 Im looking to purchase my first real estate property and Im a licensed cosmetologist which has many avenues (sales, stylist, educator, influencer, business owner, salon owner, etc.) I could have done these things years ago. We dont have to limit ourselves.
They need to have a profession. It is easier to go for your dreams if your can still eat and sleep in a house. It is important. We need to have a generation that is educated and talented. Jeanie got it wrong this time
Everyone's missing the point... they're not telling the kids you cannot be a pop star or a sports star... they're telling the kids have a back up plan so you don't have to live under a bridge eating from the bins if your music/film/sports career doesn't take off.
Many people don't know about side hustles.... To me, side hustles are "Plan B"! My parents taught me having more than one stream of income is very beneficial! We should be teaching youngsters about financial success!!
Adrienne makes sense. Loni always tries to make her own point more right than the next. I wish for one time she would not be so defensive stating her own opinion. Take. Lessons. From. Jeanie. Cause she always has a great delivery.
This is some of the reason why we have no teachers, social workers, doctors, garbage men/women, etc. Etc. Everyone now wants to be into beauty and traveling. Where are the young politicians and and young surgeons? The movie stars, athletes, entertainers are a small subset of the population. We need to be realistic with these young kids.
I am from the UK and my secondary school forced us to follow these rules. Singer, actor, entertainer, psychologist, artist graphic designer, postman, bin man and dancer were not accepted as an occupation.
They should let the kids dress up as whatever they want to be and ask them “how did you become a pop star?” So they know that there’s work that has to put into becoming a pop star. Afterwards, hit the kids with the reality of “it’s really hard to become a singer, if you can’t, what else would you be?”
You always need a plan b. Wtf is Jeanie saying. Nobody is saying you can’t chase ur dreams. what tam and Jeannie is saying is you need to have something to fall back on in case things don’t work out.
True, with parents having the responsibility to notice their children's talent. My daughter loves art, all kinds and she's 5 she is sculpting now, I buy her paint, pastels water colors, canvases, clay we're tapping into every type of art and she is so crafty and if her passion changes we will tap into it. 😊
I’m confused by Loni’s statement of being behind a bit. You’re sitting at a table with sister, sister and a cheetah girl. And on a show that is a first of its kind. A group talk show with nothing but minority women. I mean I know she wants her own show but like sis you aren’t behind.
We are so conditioned to think we should be something else rather than what we are truly passionate about. If we are more like Will Smith and Bruno Mars who followed their dreams, then there would be more successful people like them. Just like Gene mentioned, the majority of the population is not happy with their jobs. The reason why is because these people were conditioned from when they were little from family or society that their dreams were not possible or would not make them money. Like Oprah says “ Follow your purpose and success will follow”. This is why I am passionate about guiding people on finding their purpose. Well said Tam and Gene and Loni. Adrienne love you too Doll, I just think that Tam and Gene have very valuable points. Why can’t their be more Will Smith’s? I think it is possible.
Why is it that pop stars, youtubers, and tv personalities don’t get credit for all the hard work they put into their craft? I’ll never forget when a teacher asked us to write down our dream job on a paper and then had us turn it in, then read them in front of the entire class and when it came to reading mine I wrote down “dancer” and she said in front of the entire class “how about something realistic” and it crushed me, at a young age if you limit kids dreams you limit what they believe that they can do.
I struggle with this, because obviously they are going to say ‘shoot for your dreams’ because they are all ‘made it’. We never hear from the multitudes who tried to make it in the entertainment industry for years, and didn’t make it, and had to choose a different path.
so many parents robbed their children of not only a childhood but an adulthood and a life as well. tamera made a really great point about parents having a responsibility to pay attention to and identify what their children are good at, interested in and have a natural talent for so they can help cultivate that child's particular skill(s) etc. so many parents don't care about those things and now their children grow up and struggle to find their passion or talent later in life.
While in university I started doing makeup now a certified nutritionist/ dietician doing my masters in public health nutrition but I never have left make-up now I'm also certified in makeup have my own studio whilst doing my masters..... so never say never
Tam and A are right have your dreams but also have your fall back. truth of the matter is not everyone will be what they dream of so that degree collecting dust can and will help them.
Just leave the kids to be kids, they'll grow out of this "pop star" and "super spy" phase, they're not even in high school, just leave the children alone
“Be an expert at something”, Adrienne you are correct
Exactly
yeah and i love that she gave that perspective since she was succesful in the entertainment industry
People who call her negative are annoying, she’s just down to earth
Living on Adrienne statement
“Have something to to fall back on” what Adrienne was saying ! That’s not hard to understand 😂
She should have explained it better tbh
adrienne and Tamera both were making sense, have something to fall back on
All the kids living their dream 80% will not be successful. For every Will Smith there are 5 million Won't Smiths. Adrienne is the only one making sense.
K Williams “won’t smith” 💀
Doesn't mean you give up one what you really want. The chances might be small, but that doesn't mean they can't do it. That kid might be that next one. Yes, have a back up plan, but for the love of God, *dream* big. I'm with Jeannie 1000%
It's about allowing kids to dream and encouraging them to discover their purpose. That creates greatness.
EXACTLY.... what’s wrong with being a teacher, nurse, doctor, or lawyer!! Everyone is not gonna be beyonce, cardi b, lebron james! Always have a plan b
Let’s not place your perception on others! For every basic their are 10x doing greatness! For every doubter their our 20% who believe in self. Maybe if we would stopped being raised by mothers who held your mind frame more would live to their potential! I feel sorry for your children and most of all I pity you! With that self talk and belief system it’s no wonder you sit at the bottom! Please rise above this low mentality she is oh so boring and basic it no wonder nothing spectacular has happened within her own existence! We are what we believe ourselves to be do not be like this common commentator please!
Trying to go against what Adrienne was saying like they didn’t know wtf she was talking about. You should always have a plan B even the ladies sitting at the table have side hustles aka a plan B 🙄
Exactly
I'm so sorry, I've been watching the real for 3 years now and adrienne's delivery doesn't hit a lot of the times. Like I literally wait until someone else on the panel clarify's for her so I can understand point she's trying to get across.
Also I kinda have to agree with Tamara that "don't judge people who don't have a plan B don't judge people who do have one"
k P You’re so right! But On this topic, I feel that what she’s saying isn’t hard to understand at all. I would absolutely want my children to go after their dreams but I would also want them to be realistic. You have to eat In the meantime. Nothing wrong with having a plan b.
k P Absolutely!
I agree with Adrienne. God, I WISH I had some doubt that I wouldn’t be an actress because I put all my eggs in that basket and I am suffering now.. I never went to college and at 30 I have to start all over again! Listen to your parents! You have your whole life to live out a dream like being an actor. Go to school and you’ll be able to use those skills in your craft later. ♥️ Don’t want anyone experiencing what I am now. ♥️
Penny Parker I hope you’re in a better place able to pursue acting. I decided to get two degrees bc my parents said I had to and I am grateful bc I am now in a better place to be able to afford all the things needed to be an actor! See you on the big screen 🎭
Anne Youm so awesome girl! Good for you!! Let me know when your first movie comes out, I wanna make sure to support you! All the best! ♥️
Penny Parker Thank you 😁❣️Feel free to follow me on Twitter @ActorAnneSY. I’m following you 🤩
You will be okay you have life skills and you will get a career.
I feel this I made the same mistake you can't chase your dreams with no skills or money
adrienne means A LIFE SKILL not ENTERTAINMENT skill , iam with u adrienne
Loni what are you saying !!! Adrienne you are so right... like you gotta earn money.. then you can pursue your dream
Namia Hajarah yes I agree with her too.
Adrienne is fine, she’s just saying go to school so you don’t fall on your face.
I’m 26 and I still don’t know what I wanna do sheesh. Let them kids be kids and dream!!
I'm also 26 and I want to be a full-time RUclipsr
I'm turning 31 in a cpl weeks and still clueless as to what I wanna be when I grow up. 😂 Don't worry it's not unusual
Same I’m 31 now had multiple careers and I just now have realized I dont want to work in health care... which was something that was pushed in my my whole life!! I wanna be a baker lol
I’m 28 and in dental but I hate it. 😫 I just want to write
Melissa T get it girl!! You write your heart out! I love writing as well but growing up I have worked in restaurants until I landed a job at the hospital and I just remember the good old times I had in the kitchen. I would like a cafe/sandwich shop but focused more on baked goods
Adrienne is right! And Tameras mother needs to right a parenting book she raise happy, beautiful,smart, God fearing men and woman! And I need this for my children!
I’m with Adrienne on this one
Yes ,glamorize beeing a doctor or a nurse or a educator ..lets glamorize careers that will show us so many things...There is more to life than TV and IG.
They never said to dress up as role models. I agree with Adrienne and also it’s easy to put a jersey on and dress up. The school just wants them to think about careers they just gave a bad explanation.
The thing with becoming an actor or singer is that someone else decides if you're gonna become those things at least on a large scale. If noone hires you for roles, that's it, career over.
Terry H Or you could always get famous on RUclips.
Paola Valtierra It's not that easy, there is a lot of struggling youtubers.
Yes and no. A lot of very very successful actors created their own opportunities and the industry came to them. Matt Damon, Ben Affleck, Tina Fey, Issa Rae, Donald Glover. All people who created their own opportunities.
@@mckenzie.8653 spot on bro. There is room for everyone in the world you just have to create your own opportunities. We get stuck because we want to be given an opportunity instead of work our way to our dream. We all have purpose, passions + talents and those are the tools we should use to live a life of service.
Come one Loni , you know what Adrienne was saying 🙄nothing wrong with dreaming but if you’re trying to be a Star but don’t have star power then what are you going to do?
even the brightest of stars need a plan b , plan b doesn’t always mean college. Like Adrienne was saying “ a skill-set” . Go to a trade school and get that under your belt. I’m sorry but there’s nothing wrong with getting an education in an capacity. No one can ever take that from you.
literally what I said. if she would've let her finished talking she would've known or understood
Agreed but then again Loni is the golden girl so she might not want to listen to anyone's feelings or opinions othet than herself.
Rae Baylor it’s literally just dressing up tho it’s not making a permanent decision of what the kids career is gonna be it ain’t that serious. Nothing wrong with having big or crazy dreams in this instance idk why y’all acting like it’s the real deal
Exactly
That is what Loni did, but deep down inside she wanted to be a comedian. She worked 8 years as an engineer even though that was not her dream. Sometimes your plan B, becomes your plan A, thats what she means. Dont waste your young years. Follow your dreams and Plan A first. If you fail? You can always go to college at an older age. Or go to a trade school at an older age. At least you know from the age of 15-25 you put all your effort into your plan A.
I agree with Adrienne. It's good to have dreams but you have to be realistic about it. Not everyone is going to become huge like the people they mentionned. These people became who they are because, along with the determination, the belief, the talent, the hard work, they also had the good timing, the universe had those plans for them. So, it's better to be practical. I love photography and wanted to become one but the truth is that is really hard to make photography as your main profession. No matter how good you are. So, i work on that as a passion and I also do studies in law on the side. You need to have more than one dream. I know a girl who wanted to be a succeful model. She worked as model but also worked in hotel management as a plan b. At some point, the modeling world required that she does a certain things (compromise) if she wanted to work with BIG fashion designers. She was not comfortable with that so she continued her way in hotel managment.
I 100% get you on that, I would have become a photographer but now I’m an interior decor student instead. Funny enough I have the highest photo grade in the college [98%] and profs always ask me why I didn’t choose it as a main profession
@@alaasusername I was told the same at an internship in a tourism office but it's too risky. Unfortunately, one can't make a living on photography. That's why one has to hustle. I think no parents should tell their kids this unrealistic idea that you can be anything you want. It's dangerous
Idk why Loni talks to the others like they’re wrong all the time. They can have different opinions.
Yup, sometimes she comes off that way. Perhaphs it isn't malicious tho.
C C I think they are going to have a different perspective because if they didn’t believe in themselves they wouldn’t be on TV now. And they probably heard their entire life they wouldn’t be where they are now
Imagine one day they upload a Girl Chat Vault with Tamar because they start to run out of older videos 😂
Cacophonous 11 you just killed me
🤣🤣🤣🤣
I almost feel like they waited to start posting these until they could have a steady supply without her 😭😭
You predicted the future 😂💀
I am currently going to school to teach then during summers I'm going to work on my cake skills to open my own bakery:)
Rae Stay you go girl ! Wish you the best
That's awesome! I wish you the best of luck!
yay... u hav our support
I'm 100% with Adrienne
When you so famous that Beyoncé is job field
Lol yep
fairy eyes I agree with you 100% 👏🏽👏🏽💯💯
I am 100% with Adrienne. You need to have a plan b in order to work. Not everyone can be the new Beyonce or simply achieve their dreams, at that point what you gonna do? People need to stop with this storytelling, yes it's important to have dreams, but keep in mind that not EVERYONE will be able to do what they wanted to do.
As a librarian I see kids all the time doing these kinds of projects, not based on what they wanted to do, but what would be easy or look cute. Like a kid who dresses as Beyonce, but never sings a note because they just like Beyonce and have a yellow dress. They don't want to be a singer. Or they dress up as a sports star because they've got a jersey, not that they ever get off the couch and play sports.
If I were a teacher I'd do like a lot of teachers do book reports. Give them a list and tell them to pick one. That way it's an actual project.
Awww Kobe
Jeannie gave so much insight in this situation
tijonnay williams she always does. She is so so smart.
Kay You yes they do😂 that’s why the people she listed are VERY successful
I think everyone should have a plan B.. I agree with Adrienne. I’m teaching my kids to.
Adrienne and Tam are absolutely right. It doesn’t have to be college. Recognize your child’s talents and build from there.
im currently an esthetician making thousands a month but am also doing youtube and selling things on the side cause youtube is my dream :)
katherine perrin you have no videos girl wyd
The only thing I'm gonna say is that most celebrities are only now chasing after professional degrees. And I agree with Adrienne, we do not glamourise these professional courses and instinctively humans wanna take the easy route out. Going to college and getting a degree is hard, and I am adamant about the fact that college prepares you for a lot of things and teaches you a lot of transferable skill set.
Yes everyone should have a plan b. Because when people don't ”make it ” they get depressed and become unproductive in society. Just have a backup plan
You know how many people end up homeless or working at Starbucks their entire life because they never had a plan B thinking they were going to be an “actress”...
And to the point of a “degree sitting on the shelf catching dust”, formal education will change you and give you fundamental skills that you can use every single day. There are multiple reasons why people don’t/can’t pursue higher education, so I don’t want to undermine someone’s struggle but most of the time you can CLEARLY tell when you speak to someone who hasn’t gone to college, and that alone is a major differentiator.
Honestly, I WISH schools would be more realistic. I grew up thinking I could do anything, but no one tells you the arts are completely money based. Don't tell them they can't do it. Tell them it still be hard as hell but go for it if they REALLY want it.
Loni is the perfect example of this. Life goes on while you’re pursuing your dreams. You need to be able to take care of yourself and family while working on your dream in preparation for your “big break.”
I’m with Adrienne and Tamera’s mom 👍🏿
I’m glad we had this topic because I recently watched an episode of one of my favorite shows “ Facts of Life “ and it was an episode where Tootie’s dad had came to Eastland and when he found out she wanted to own a salon with Natalie... he made a big deal out of it because it wasn’t what HE wanted her to do in life... which is why as a parent you need to break the curse of “ well since my parents did it and I did it , my child has to do it too “ & continue this legacy of doing something they aren’t passionate about... Also realize that your 11 or 12 year child may end up changing their mind on what career field they want to be in by the time they are 16... but you have to allow them to ! Let your children develop and make their own decisions and choices and trust them !
Ade and Jeannie's insights are so insightful! And that skillset factor is really an eye opener.
I guess it’s easier for them to say because they’ve become successful in their dreams but not everyone makes the cut! Always have a plan b!!!
I can see Jeannie being a motivational speaker !
It IS ridiculous. My first thought was, to even assume there are only a FEW jobs in the world that are so hard to achieve is ridiculous. So glad Tamara spoke my mind on that bit.
Secondly, I 100% agree with Adrienne about still having a hustle and with Jeannie for saying a kid should be able to dream it before all the realities really hit them. There will be enough factors in the world to deter them or encourage them later on. You can teach your kids about falling off of the ladder but don't stop them from climbing it to begin with.
*My dream is to be an actress not because of fame nor money but as Tamara said.. it's my passion and I'm good at it.*
They all look so stunning....that red dress on Jeannie fits her, I just love Adrienne, Loni's top is pretty and Tam's white is great
I am 100% with Adrienne 🙌🏼 Loni and Jeannie are delirious (and I’m saying that being 21 and very modern and all that stuff)
I agree with what Tamara said. Her mother didn't discourage them from their dreams. She supported them in what they wanted but encouraged them to get an education just in case. That way you have something to fall back on. This is a great balance. You may have that degree sitting on the shelf however, when your fame is gone, then you have that degree to fall back on. You're not just stuck. Always have a back-up plan.
This is a very, very good thing. Part of the problem I and many millenials had is that we didn't start doing the hard work of figuring out what we *actually* wanted to do until college. Its important to acknowledge dreams and encourage them, but also encouraging them to have a Plan B. Being a doctor isn't the same thing as being an entertainer. There's a clear path to that career, and there is never a dearth of doctors - we always need more. Jeannie's thing about degrees that you don't want or use...that's solved by encouraging kids to do the hard work early - by encouraging them to be other things. And Adrienne is right, most people wanting to be a pro sports player or singer only want it because they have an unrealistic idea of that entails.
Let's be clear: these women are victims of survivorship bias. They're letting all the people who made it and ignoring the hundreds of thousands of people in LA, Atlanta, Nashville, NYC and Seattle RIGHT NOW who have been doing the work for a decade or two, but haven't gotten anywhere.
I guess these old girl chats will do.🤷🏻♂️😂
Anas Atassi 😂😂😂😂
Adrien just gave away a clue for the masked singer....went to medical school lol
I think you have to follow your "passion". Most people don't have a passion. They have interests.
Also, a lot of these are examples of very exceptional instances. 100 people might make it, but millions fail, even if they're great at it.
I love Adrienne’s hair like this this
8:20 I wanted to be a lawyer which I thought was a great field but the family wanted me to be a nurse and I HATE HOSPITALS. Long story short, I took multiple major and racked up student loans so now I'm a dropout (for now) with student loans.
I just wanna make fashion items and help people.
RubyRim I’m a nurse myself and hospitals are stressful AH
@@anneyoum4063it's a noble job, thank you for what you do.
Have a wise Plan B. I like Adrienne’s example about music engineering to lead to producing. They relate. Don’t say I want to be a music producer, but I’ll go study biology as a backup.
I always love Jeannie’s advice
It did not push you back 8 years Loni. We are all exactly where we are meant to be WHEN the time is right.
Then I’d dress up as an escort lol I literally considered that in the past when I was drowning in debt and had no job. Thank GOD I didn’t do it though, I don’t think I would be able to actually do it but I thought about it for a while there 😶
Maria C girl. Lord knows we’ve all been there!
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Growing up I never could figure out what I want to do on a serious note. I never had a passion. I was jealous because my brother seemed to have his life figured out so young and so did his fiancé. Now, it’s switched. I know what I want with my life finally and my brothers changed his mind and going back to school. Everyone finds their path!!
Adrienne is right. Not everyone who wants be an actor, doctor, teacher, lawyer, singer will be that. Cause if no one wants to hire you, what r u going to do? Of course u can create your own opportunities but think of something else that u like as a plan be to fall on if your own opportunities dont work.
A lot of people wants to be this and that but end up in somebody's basement because of no plan.
Make the plan, execute the plan.
Your job as a parent is to make your kids the best THEM they can be, not the best YOU. Don’t make them fulfill what was your dream. Help them fulfill theirs.
RIGHT !! WE DONT GLAMIRIZE being teachers, doctors, lawyers, journalist, etc...
we glamirize pop stars, models, influencers (damm🤦♀️🤦♀️), so that’s that (and yeah, I’m saying that being obsessed with Instagram, BUT I’m studying marketing 🙌🏼✨)
Adrienne’s hair is gorgeous!!! Wow that volume and curls 🥰😍
Like Lonnie said you need a hustle. Ways to make money. Whether it is considered professional or not. When I was younger all I wanted to do was be a nurse and move up in my field. But now that Im 29 Im looking to purchase my first real estate property and Im a licensed cosmetologist which has many avenues (sales, stylist, educator, influencer, business owner, salon owner, etc.) I could have done these things years ago. We dont have to limit ourselves.
They need to have a profession. It is easier to go for your dreams if your can still eat and sleep in a house. It is important. We need to have a generation that is educated and talented. Jeanie got it wrong this time
I agree with Adrianne 100%
I completely agree with Adrienne 👏🏾 Loni shut up lol
Why are not the kids allowed to dream big it sends out wrong signals to them that they won’t be able to be whatever they want to be.
Hawjin Khidir Yeah I agree
Hawjin Khidir Yeah whats up with that
I am literally giving applause to Jeanie... I literally stood up in my living room and applauded her... I agree with her 100%!
Everyone's missing the point... they're not telling the kids you cannot be a pop star or a sports star... they're telling the kids have a back up plan so you don't have to live under a bridge eating from the bins if your music/film/sports career doesn't take off.
Many people don't know about side hustles.... To me, side hustles are "Plan B"! My parents taught me having more than one stream of income is very beneficial! We should be teaching youngsters about financial success!!
Tam looks good asf🥰
Their wording in the letter seemed mean, the school clearly didn’t want talent focused careers. The school letter was TOO STRICT.
Adrienne makes sense. Loni always tries to make her own point more right than the next. I wish for one time she would not be so defensive stating her own opinion. Take. Lessons. From. Jeanie. Cause she always has a great delivery.
❤️ Each and every one of these beautiful ladies are soooo inspiring, so supportive, soooo lovingly encouraging. ❤️
*kim saved his life by not following on time*
100% with Jeannie on this one
@Kay You I hear you but you have to be positive
I’m 21 and I have no idea what I’m good at 🤦🏽♀️ I feel like I really have no talents .
This is some of the reason why we have no teachers, social workers, doctors, garbage men/women, etc. Etc. Everyone now wants to be into beauty and traveling. Where are the young politicians and and young surgeons? The movie stars, athletes, entertainers are a small subset of the population. We need to be realistic with these young kids.
this is why i love this show! ugh, i feel so inspired!!
I agree, let kids be themselves and dress up how they want.
I am from the UK and my secondary school forced us to follow these rules. Singer, actor, entertainer, psychologist, artist graphic designer, postman, bin man and dancer were not accepted as an occupation.
The way the drink that cocktail, like they drinking gold 😂
They should let the kids dress up as whatever they want to be and ask them “how did you become a pop star?” So they know that there’s work that has to put into becoming a pop star. Afterwards, hit the kids with the reality of “it’s really hard to become a singer, if you can’t, what else would you be?”
You always need a plan b. Wtf is Jeanie saying. Nobody is saying you can’t chase ur dreams. what tam and Jeannie is saying is you need to have something to fall back on in case things don’t work out.
Without the allowance of people stepping out of the traditional boundaries we wouldn’t have you all represent real talk for the all of us 🤗
This show is Lonis side hustle until she becomes a real comedian
Magaly Herrera damn
True, with parents having the responsibility to notice their children's talent. My daughter loves art, all kinds and she's 5 she is sculpting now, I buy her paint, pastels water colors, canvases, clay we're tapping into every type of art and she is so crafty and if her passion changes we will tap into it. 😊
I’m confused by Loni’s statement of being behind a bit. You’re sitting at a table with sister, sister and a cheetah girl. And on a show that is a first of its kind. A group talk show with nothing but minority women. I mean I know she wants her own show but like sis you aren’t behind.
You can be on the summit and still feel like you haven’t left the bottom. Damn 😭
Remember, that they are children. Children often have many dream jobs at the same time, and they change often.
We are so conditioned to think we should be something else rather than what we are truly passionate about. If we are more like Will Smith and Bruno Mars who followed their dreams, then there would be more successful people like them. Just like Gene mentioned, the majority of the population is not happy with their jobs. The reason why is because these people were conditioned from when they were little from family or society that their dreams were not possible or would not make them money. Like Oprah says
“ Follow your purpose and success will follow”. This is why I am passionate about guiding people on finding their purpose. Well said Tam and Gene and Loni. Adrienne love you too Doll, I just think that Tam and Gene have very valuable points. Why can’t their be more Will Smith’s? I think it is possible.
Adrienne kills it every week. She looks incredible!
Tamera & Adrienne stole the first topic and nailed it on the head. Thank you guys.
Why is it that pop stars, youtubers, and tv personalities don’t get credit for all the hard work they put into their craft? I’ll never forget when a teacher asked us to write down our dream job on a paper and then had us turn it in, then read them in front of the entire class and when it came to reading mine I wrote down “dancer” and she said in front of the entire class “how about something realistic” and it crushed me, at a young age if you limit kids dreams you limit what they believe that they can do.
😎GOOD ANSWER SISTAH JEANNIE FOLLOW YOUR DREAMS NOT YOUR PARENTS!😜!
I struggle with this, because obviously they are going to say ‘shoot for your dreams’ because they are all ‘made it’. We never hear from the multitudes who tried to make it in the entertainment industry for years, and didn’t make it, and had to choose a different path.
so many parents robbed their children of not only a childhood but an adulthood and a life as well. tamera made a really great point about parents having a responsibility to pay attention to and identify what their children are good at, interested in and have a natural talent for so they can help cultivate that child's particular skill(s) etc. so many parents don't care about those things and now their children grow up and struggle to find their passion or talent later in life.
"Win at being yourself"... Yes Jeannie!!
I swear to God, if my family tries the "be a doctor, medical assistant etc" thing again, I will cut them off.
I agree with Adrienne 💯
Just dont get stuck in the rat wheel where you're doing the same thing all the time
😂 Tamara pulling up her top!!!
I agree with Jeanie , my son told me that he doesn't need a plan B,because that takes energy from his plan A.
While in university I started doing makeup now a certified nutritionist/ dietician doing my masters in public health nutrition but I never have left make-up now I'm also certified in makeup have my own studio whilst doing my masters..... so never say never
Tam and A are right have your dreams but also have your fall back. truth of the matter is not everyone will be what they dream of so that degree collecting dust can and will help them.
Just leave the kids to be kids, they'll grow out of this "pop star" and "super spy" phase, they're not even in high school, just leave the children alone