Your content is incredible. Keep it up. Your previous comments/videos about the build quality of duotone's lines became very relevant the other day as I had a relatively new safety line snap mid loop. My first thought was "Jason warned me..."
Hey Jason, leaving the allula and “premium” kites behind, would you say that the north orbit is the best for big air out of the “standard” kites? I’ve been seeing your videos and reviews and I was thinking if the orbit 23’ is better for looping and boosting than the 24’ considering that there is no gusty wind, as I’ve seen that the 24’ orbit is clearly slower than the previous one. Also, which one would you say loops fastest and catches between the orbit pro and the cabrinha nitro? And is there much difference between the cabrinha nitro and the standard north orbit? Thanks.
You should check out my Nitro 2 video that I put out a couple months back. Looping the fastest doesn't necessarily make that my favourite kite, or what I think would be the easiest for most people. Also, it's impossible to say any one kite is the best for the whole discipline of big air because everyone riders a bit differently, the Rebel Sls or the Flysurfer Era will both loop very well, and jump higher than any orbit, or the Ozone Edge or Core XR8 will jump higher again, and have more hangtime. Orbits and Nitros tend to loop the best and are very easy to use. Finally, riding style, weight, and conditions matter as much as the kite.
@@jasonofmontreal I'm the beginner with loops, but I like my orbit 9m 22 much more than rebel sls 8m 22 for loops (I own both kites). But rebel is more smooth in the air, holds better and definitely jumps higher!
Possibly… but it’s also looping tighter and much higher in window… I’m not sure I’m pulling each bar as heavily given the different days and conditions…
Looking forward to the harlem review. From my understanding and looking at your videos i guess they made the 2024 standard orbit a bit slower than previous year, and the new nitro is kind of a better version of the standard orbit, while the orbit pro and the harlem force are maybe a little too fast if you're just trying to improve on your loops and boosting... does that make sense? Thanks a lot Jason always full of the right insights your videos!
I would say that's about right, the standard orbit improved stability, giving a significant point of difference with the pro. Then the nitro v2 combined a little bit of each of those from the previous version for possibly the friendliest overall loop progression option as yet. I've not had proper wind for a full test of the Harlem as yet, we need a 30-40 knot day still so I can ride it in proper big air winds, but hopefully that wind is coming soon.
Your content is incredible. Keep it up. Your previous comments/videos about the build quality of duotone's lines became very relevant the other day as I had a relatively new safety line snap mid loop. My first thought was "Jason warned me..."
Another sale for the line smith 😂
@@jasonofmontreal Secret collab between duotone and linesmith
Hey Jason, leaving the allula and “premium” kites behind, would you say that the north orbit is the best for big air out of the “standard” kites? I’ve been seeing your videos and reviews and I was thinking if the orbit 23’ is better for looping and boosting than the 24’ considering that there is no gusty wind, as I’ve seen that the 24’ orbit is clearly slower than the previous one.
Also, which one would you say loops fastest and catches between the orbit pro and the cabrinha nitro? And is there much difference between the cabrinha nitro and the standard north orbit?
Thanks.
You should check out my Nitro 2 video that I put out a couple months back. Looping the fastest doesn't necessarily make that my favourite kite, or what I think would be the easiest for most people. Also, it's impossible to say any one kite is the best for the whole discipline of big air because everyone riders a bit differently, the Rebel Sls or the Flysurfer Era will both loop very well, and jump higher than any orbit, or the Ozone Edge or Core XR8 will jump higher again, and have more hangtime. Orbits and Nitros tend to loop the best and are very easy to use. Finally, riding style, weight, and conditions matter as much as the kite.
@@jasonofmontreal I'm the beginner with loops, but I like my orbit 9m 22 much more than rebel sls 8m 22 for loops (I own both kites). But rebel is more smooth in the air, holds better and definitely jumps higher!
you are extremely consistent ! looks like Orbit has very small edge on rest of group
Possibly… but it’s also looping tighter and much higher in window… I’m not sure I’m pulling each bar as heavily given the different days and conditions…
Gone cross eyed many times watching this. Keep up the steller content 🔥
I certainly paused/unpaused a few times myself...
Looking forward to the harlem review. From my understanding and looking at your videos i guess they made the 2024 standard orbit a bit slower than previous year, and the new nitro is kind of a better version of the standard orbit, while the orbit pro and the harlem force are maybe a little too fast if you're just trying to improve on your loops and boosting... does that make sense? Thanks a lot Jason always full of the right insights your videos!
I would say that's about right, the standard orbit improved stability, giving a significant point of difference with the pro. Then the nitro v2 combined a little bit of each of those from the previous version for possibly the friendliest overall loop progression option as yet. I've not had proper wind for a full test of the Harlem as yet, we need a 30-40 knot day still so I can ride it in proper big air winds, but hopefully that wind is coming soon.