3,000 Shelf Holes!!! How to Drill Shelf Holes Fast!!! Plus My Pegboard Shelf Hole Trick!
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- Опубликовано: 30 июн 2024
- In this video we are going to talk about shelf peg holes. We cover a couple different methods for drilling shelf peg holes. I show you my line boring machine and also show you a quick method for drilling shelf holes with pegboard.
00:00 - Boring Shelf Holes Fast is Crucial
00:56 - What is a line boring machine?
01:56 - Types of Line Boring Machines
02:30 - How I Use My Conquest 13 Spindle Machine
03:25 - Create a Story Pole
07:11 - How to Align the Line Boring Machine
09:29 - The Pegboard Method for Shelf Holes
11:57 - Kreg Hole Solution
14:27 - Story Pole On-Site Peg Installation
15:27 - Time Is Money - Line Boring Machines Make Sense
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He says …-“ a small shop like mine”.😂 that place is huge. I would like to see more of the shop.
It's videos like this that make me appreciate my Cantek 21 bit line boring machine.
As a retired cabinetmaker, I would suggest that you always start at the top using a stop block, of some sort, on both sides of the drill bits. Eyeballing center points, even with brad point bits, can be problematic if off even a small amount when putting in the shelf pins and possible having a wobbly shelf. Using the top, with a consistent starting point, saves time ( no eyeballing) and provides more accuracy. The center point will remain the same, you just change youre starting location. I see on this machine the flip stops won't be of any help in this scenario, but you are way smart enough to come up with a work around. As always, love your videos.
This is exactly why I ALWAYS use a drill guide, such as the Kreg, or an automated boring system, such as the Festool rail and router setup. If in the cabinet business, I’d have a gang boring machine. Bits won’t wander hither and yon when using those systems…
I've been using the "MEG" jig & a plunge router for years n years , beats the festool LR32 away, IMHO
It would be worth to work with you for no pay just because a person of any skill could learn so much from you.
You are the best carpenter that I've ever seen
crazy to hear that that is an "entry level" line boring machine. That's a dream tool! thanks for the post Spencer.
The quality of both the basic video presentation and post production is improving at a rapid rate. Congratulations, Spencer!
Glad you think so! I agree, my video guy is killing it. 👊
You’ve taken your production to a new level. I like it.
I enjoy using my Festool LR 32-SYS Hole Drilling Set, the Festool Router OF 1400, and Guide Rail FS FS 1400/2-LR 32, the router bit makes a very clean shelf pin hole and can drill the door hinge hole. Ron Paulk has a great video show a technique for very quick setup too.
Same here.
Jason Bent of vents woodworking has an excellent beginner’s guide on it as well (which is how I got started with it)
6:17 one of the things I’ve picked up from using the LR32 system from festool is to size my cabs in a manner that makes it evenly divisible by 32.
That way I can flip my track system without needing to specifically index to top or bottom and will always get the same pin outs.
I learned so much. Always do watching your videos! I was not expecting those throwback videos 😂
Those were from when I very first started recording. 😂
Such beautiful work Spencer, as always sir!
I've built some bookshelves - not as tall as he did and ya - that tool is a dream. I remember all the holes that I drilled with a drill. Six book shelves side by side - it was time consuming but you get through it. Good video.
Have you ever thought of making a SketchUp plan of your shop? I’ve noticed it’s all the shop, most solo carpenters need. I’m sure a lot of people, including myself would appreciate having the plan to work from, if you were interested in documenting it 👍
I've had the same Conquest drill for quite a few years ... Still performs great!
Ive had one of those machines for going on 20yrs. Only changed the bits once. Also if you get creative you can match the holes to the door boring pattern and then when installing doors you can use 5mm euro screws for the hinge plates. Makes that operation a no brainer.
This is so cool!! I've never seen one of these. Thanks for showing the process too.
I see ppl still insist on those things? I hv done a load of them & several times going back to build for a consistent customer I ask “ u ever in your life time adjust a shelf or know of someone who has? “NO”!
Has always been the answer ! So I tell my customer that because I am the designer 99% of the time right down to hand drawing off my IPad ( I hate sketch up) . And as of lately after I tell them everyone of them scratched the idea for thicker stronger shelf’s? As somewhat of a trade off money wise although they end up spending more on my shelf’s ( I use 1/2” to 1” stickers between two 3/4 “ strong Cabinet grade ply with nice trimmed sides!
Spencer you amaze me on some of the huge stuff you build and transport alone! The stairs you drug around I show carpenters all the time when I hear “that winey train coming “!
Then I say “ boys you don’t see any democrats there do you”!
Thank you again very very much Spence I know these videos take a lot of time and moo-la !
As my book collection grows I've regrouped many times, requiring adjusting shelves to accommodate taller books or shifting short books. One client hired me to build kitchen cabinets but changed her mind and had her brother build them...next time I arrived for another job she showed me how the shelves were fixed and she was unable to store her breakfast cereals anywhere except in the base cabs. I modified my current pantry cabs to be adjustable and am able to store supplies more densely. A compromise to the bad look of tons of unused holes is to only have 3 holes at each shelf position, allowing some adjustment.
Thanks for introducing us to this tool. I had never seen that one before pretty interesting, and the pegboard solution is very resourceful.
Four-story pull my day recommend an index at the bottom (or top) such that you don’t have to worry about aligning on the piece incorrectly.
Thank you- always informative, appreciate your fine finish work
Great video and thank you for sharing. I've never built built-ins, nor do I have any (yet) as a homeowner, so I don't have a dog in the fight. But Ron Paulk said recently that he feels we shouldn't concern ourselves about where to stop and restart holes, and I agree. I don't think the holes look ugly. I think hardwear looks ugly. That's just my opinion.
Ok dude. Yer killing me! My tool addiction is causing uncontrollable drooling ffs!
I have a client who HATES shelf holes thankfully so I won’t have to drill 10,000 holes on this project at least 👍
Though I am left with shop envy. 😂
Someone got new a new production crew
Nice video great tip with the pedboard
I have that exact machine. I use three bits for three holes per shelf, it's much cleaner. Now it's all CNC'd and it collects dust.😢
Keep up the good work.
That was a very good vid Spencer. I've had the same line borer as yours for twenty years. Paid for itself very quickly(I changed those super stiff indexing pin springs.) Before the machine, I made a bookcase line boring jig. I bought a 1" x 1" x 96" length of typical mild steel. I manually laid out the 1 1/4" spacing and drilled/countersunk it on my drill press. That tool made me a ridiculous amount of money. It was good and heavy so it wouldn't move around when hand drilling. Speed wise its not much slower than a machine. Super accurate because you never index. I did that one for 1/4" holes. The high speed brad points always stayed sharp a surprisingly long time.
I did the same before I bought a line borer.
We built like 5 all adjustable closets in a row, and finally I said, I am going to buy one.
Top notch stuff!
Wooden crutches make great templates as well; I used to use them for guides and as they’re thicker than peg board they keep holes straight.
I have four of the kreg templets connected, works well for me and is mobile to the job.
I have the Festool LR32 and my client pointed out that i missed one hole after it was assembled and installed. I totally forgot about the Craig Jig having the same layout. I'll just use that.
Honestly, all the cabinet shops I have worked in had that machine or a Delta.
The only one I have been in that didn't, was a massive commercial shop and they took out most of the drills so it would fit a 36 inch upper perfectly.
nice setup with the line boring machine. 1 thing I've noticed with your new camera person, he/she doesn't zoom in enough when you are pointing out details. most often we can't see your pencil lines showing what you are talking about. it would be helpful if your camera person zoomed right in on the shot.
Hello Spencer, watched a lot of your videos Awesome work, you don't happen to do any work in ND have a new home going up and contractor just butchered the beams!!! Thanks and keep up the great work!!!
Just Indiana!
real good video---glad you show several ways to achieve the same results-----question on another topic, you have an horizontal belt sander----what brand is it and how do you like it thanx in advance rick
Love the pegboard jig for us homegamers
I use the True Position Tools hardware jig to line bore.
👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍good info
I usually windup building custom closets on the the houses I trim…
I usually put blue tape to mark the top making it more visible for me… then I would suggest starting at the top using a stop or a simple jig… I have never started in the middle… it just seems it would be easier to mess things up that way… but if it works for you keep doing your thing
Excellent, thanks for sharing I was wondering how you were going to punch all those holes.........................
👍👍👍Thank you
Rockler sell a double row shelf pin hole jig that fits a standard size cabinet ; bookshelf or whatever that come with the bit and is very fast ! I hv used them all except the line boring and Rockler is great for a small sub contractor like you or me ! Until you go to a line boring jig!
Yep, any method work, as long as they all have the same orientation starting point, and marked top n bottom.
Unless it’s all drill starting point in the centre length of the board and even spacing back n front, then you don’t have to mark top n bottom.
@9:46 Holy Cow Spencer. :) you look so young but oh so serious ! 😁
Could you use a longer bit on the end of your line boring machine?
Drop it down into your last drilled hole for accuracy and efficiency?
We build wide body airplane and we use some jigs and fixtures like that but much more complex, drill thousand holes for rivets.
BTW, ROI = Return On Investment
I’ve only ever used the pegboard method... I kinda thought I invented that, but of course original thought is like Original sin, it’s something that happened a long time ago to people we couldn’t possibly have met.
Who was the skinny young dude at the 10 minute mark?
🤣
Can you source the belt attachment that holds your tape and a pencil, please?
Any reason you didn’t use the Domino Connectors? I’ve used those to assemble a tear-down bed. The drawing force they can achieve is extremely high. I built the bed for my young grandson when the connectors were introduced in the USA. He graduates from high school this coming June and the connectors are as tight now as they were at installation.
Hey Spencer, not relating to this video but, I bought one of the Shinwa Neo chalk lines after seeing it in one of your videos and the line broke loose from the pointed red tip. I looked online to see how to retie it but couldn't find anything. Any hint on how to go about making that knot? Thanks
Not a clue… sorry.
? Hi Spencer! Great work and thank you for all the tips....but. Why do you not have a page dedicated to the tools you have reviewed or are your preferred?? I see your links on specific videos but thought you would have a page dedicated to the top tools you like and links to purchase. You earn some cock-a-doodle profit from each sale so I was wanting to buy some things and have you get the moolah. Your experience with these tools , without endorsement, is extremely valuable to some of us. Thanks and keep posting when you can, you are valued by many! (* I do see the videos on your reviews, I am hoping for a page dedicated to the tools with links)
That is a great idea, I should try and set something up for that. Thanks for the feedback!
we have this same line boring machine,, what do you use when drilling shelf pins in 24''d base cabinets when the shelves are to be 1/2 depth? this machine only goes like 8'' deep and i dont see many that go much deeper
I don't enounter that situation much and I'm not a full blown cabinet shop. I would just use my kreg shelf hole jig and do those cabinets manually.
What spacing do you guys leave under your base trim for a carpet allowance?
3/8-1-2”
Excellent, at times you have to buy more added equipment. Time is money 💰
Do you have any issues with tear out when using the Kreg shelf pin jig?
It makes things go slower, but if you briefly run your bit in reverse before drilling the hole it will score the wood and you get much less, or zero, tear out.
nice thats a very small one, Ours is way too big
Nice video. What brand of machine is yours? I’ve been looking at these recently as currently I’m using a mdf jig I made by routing a 5mm hole with a 1/2” bushing.
You can also get a line borer for the Blum mini press, hinge borer.
@@jeffshackleford3152 it’s only 7 holes and the indexing is terrible. Great for hinges , but not holes
@@aspees If it doesn't index, then you are probably right, it is terrible.
I personally have never used one.
I just know they exist.
@@jeffshackleford3152 I worked in a shop that had one. It was fine for building kitchens. Anything beyond that the indexing pins were not accurate enough(sloppy). The holes wouldn’t line up correctly in a bookcase situation.
@@aspees makes sense, especially if you don't have the aligning spike as you move up the piece.
What the brand of the machine
link?
Hi Spencer, how to contact you for cooperation?🤩
I honestly prefer KV standards and clips to holes/pins. They also allow finer adjustments of the clips than 32mm.
That machine is a blatant rip off of the Delta line boring machine. I dont suppose they're going to put up much of a fight at this point :) Even for a smallish "production" shop I think its a pretty kick ass machine. The delta one can make some very clean and very precise holes.
Since time is money why drill the holes in that story stick for the pins when just pencil marks would have worked.
Damn im spoiled..i just use my CNC router..🙃
This is CGI, no way your clamps are that clean