Multi Engine Swap Porsche 930 Turbo
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- Опубликовано: 14 окт 2024
- These swaps are getting out of hand...and really really fast. But what are the implications of taking something sacred (like a Turbo Air cooled Porsche) and replacing the entirety of its drivetrain with modern, high tech components? Is this the path forward or should the EV's and classic combustion engine cars stay separated like church and state?
Steve Bender, the man behind this car you see here, has been refining this swap for a few months now with the help of Tremec electric. What they've produced is pretty wild, quite nice, and really really quick. 
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Beautiful combination a wonderfully acquired taste not many will have Good Job.
I think there is a time and a place for EV swaps. 930 turbo, not really for me (sorry steve but let me try it out), but I wouldn't care if I had a 60s caddy, a FJ60 or etc with an EV powerplant.
I smell a collab coming…
I think ev swaps make sense in classic cars when the powertrain isn’t a huge part of the experience, like a 60’s Cadillac. In something like this I don’t really see the point, it might be faster than stock, but it’s still not modern car fast
I’m not sure it’s a good idea in any classic. Classics are all about the sights, smells, sounds and feeling of the car. You’re basically removing 90% of what it’s all about.
wow i literally said the same exact car haha
@@markygti138 Right? Why give old cars improved speed and reliability? Everyone knows the best thing about old cars is the constant breakdowns and impossible to find parts for the frequent replacements
@@Necron00b just buy a new car then if that’s your opinion?
@@vin_travin the house!
Zach, appreciate you taking it for a ride! We know it’s not for everyone but we see this as great option for daily driving. This car will be available at Wires Only in the next few weeks.
You should be ashamed of yourself and laughed out of the car enthusiast community. Utter garbage.
My biggest issue with EVs is that they look stupid, so I can appreciate these swaps since they actually have style.
100%! I would be all in on an EV daily but they try and make them look like space ships! Just give me the same ICE car but with batteries thanks
My problem is the range , if I can’t go from la to sac on one charge I see no point .
How does a Model S look stupid? Most EVs look like normal everyday vehicles and a few look fantastic. Rolls Royce Spectre, VW ID.Buzz, Porsche Taycan Cross Turismo for example.
Epically cool! If you blow an engine on a classic & can recycle ev tech, to give you a crazy quick sleeper: hell yeah! Driving an ev regularly is a different kind of experience & having a chop monster waiting for the weekend makes you appreciate both & never gets old. We'll see what happens with new tech solutions & better combustion designs but saving classics & keeping the scene interesting is where its at!
Love the performance aspect of the electric cars, also do what you like with what you have, that’s the point. Not do what the nerds say, who park theirs and are lame. Go wear tires out and enjoy.
Not an EV guy, but I do like these kind of EV swaps.
Watching the trees quickly disappear in the back window when he floors it is hilarious.
Ev swaps are pretty unique, everytime I’ve come across one at a c&c it’s always been very well done and has that oem look. One in particular was a el Camino SS, only thing missing is the noise but we can all agree that’s the best part of ICE
EV swapping retro stuff, especially sick looking retro stuff like that, heck yeah.
The work to get that moving and looking as good both inside and out 👌
I love a good ICE, the feeling, the smell, and of coarse the noise (chop rating) but this does make older cars way cooler with drive ability and even performance, I think EV resto mods are pretty cool
I love EVs as literally the best transportation appliance you can buy for most people.
This sort of swap is cool cuz it makes what would otherwise be a weekend only (or primarily) kinda car something you can drive day in and out without giving up cool factor
2:30 IMO if your saving a chassis, its cool.
way cooler than a stock EV!
I think these setups are great. Not for me but its cool to see. I'm pretty sure his kits are also non intrusive. so you can do a complete swap back to stock if you so choose.
i think it cool to see these EVs cuz i mean we are in the age of electric/future so it pretty unique to see these type of new stuff on cars. yeah some of us like me like old school classic engine combustion. but their are time when ill be impressed with a cool, different, unique EV. so im all for it to see both EV and old school Cars
There is a local 1956 Porsche Speedster that has been converted. Gas or electric, if it is a sweet build I have no issues.
It's got everything but a professional detail and engine noises. Still pretty cool.
EV-swapping classics makes them viable daily drivers, extending their lifetime and visibility on the road. That's a no-brainer
I just really love the Porsche flat 6 engine, turbo or not I think it a beautiful symphony of a motor that’s has so much soul to it and swapping that with a ev is kinda silly. It may be way faster but I don’t care, hitting 9k rpms in a flat 6 is just the most tremendous feeling where you can’t help but just smile and it fills you with pure bliss.
Yeah no for swaps on cars like this, the experience of these cars so much of the emotion comes from the sound, vibration and engagement
I fell in love with the 930/935 body due to the Condorman movie.... An EV version seems even more evil.
Love it.
You can't erase the sound of an air cooled 911. That is a large part of the character.
Well he just erm... Did
It's 90% of the reason to own a 911. They look ok, they drive ok, but they sound awesome. This swap is better suited for a classic car that struggles at doing highway speeds, not one that still functions in modern society.
@@geoffwatches well yes, he did in a literal sense. Anyone “can”. Jesus, I love the internet.
Unfortunately you cannot beat the performance and for short-range play toys they have their place but they'll definitely never replace tried and true combustible engine
Clean swap. Reminds me of the electric death machine Bisimoto made.
Love it. Not the same as a gas burning big block. But still think it’s cool. I’d do something like that to a mini pickup or old Z. But I don’t think I could replace the 429 in my F100.
I love ev swaps. It's like any other engine swap.
EVs done right like this are dope.
I think EV swaps are rad. People should do whatever they want. My personal fantasy is that the simulated DCT in the Ioniq 5 N leads to a simulated gated manual in an electric car some day. I want the experience of shifting into insane torque in an EV.
Thanks for continuing to put out great content. You and Vin have done an amazing job since leaving hoonigan
I like EV swaps but don't think every car should be an EV. It is all about what you are looking for because the instant torque feels amazing but high revving or ground pounding ICE motors also feel great. Also, how well it is implemented. Something like this is awesome, especially since they have kept the weight down. All the new cars are just so damn heavy.
To be fair I can see this being a really good way to bring EV market up in a much more cost effective way, it’s will also allow for more classic cars to be revived so car enthusiasts like us can still enjoy the good stuff about cars and driving
but to make it more accessible to the general public it would be a even cooler if there was a way to make an electric motor marry up to any gearbox - remove the fuel cell and replace it with a battery which could lead to a 50/50 weight distribution and much more (I’m abridging this massively but you get the picture😅)
I daily drive an EV, I think they're super cool and I love that people are doing these swaps. I think a lot of EV hate comes from misunderstanding and politics. But I do love my truck and nothing is cooler than a choppy big block.
Moves pretty quick honestly but the Rush from a combustion engine IDK
But can do donots?
Cool car, I'm 50/50 on it. It's different and would like to build one myself for the challenge.
The swaps are cool in that they keep vintage cars on the road, but the reason to drive a 930 is basically the sound. Killer build for sure, but air cooled 911s are the best sounding cars ever and I wouldn’t want to change that.
Seems to be a disconnect between editing-booth Zach and in-the-car Zach. One of them was having a blast. I'm all for cool swaps like this. When you've got the kind of fuck you money that will buy you this, you can probably buy the air cooled version to go along with it.
Big ICE guy, but these classic EV conversions are something else alright!
Not sure how I feel about this one.. most of the driving experience in a 911 is that iconic flat six..
I think the EV swapped Porsche is cool. For me there is the visual aspect. I was a kid when these cars were new. I love the whale tale on these cars. There's the performance aspect. As we know, EV's can perform. There's the sound and smell which would be distinctly different from the original air cooled turbo. Porsche is known for building some incredible engines, no doubt, but it's okay to be different. I love it for what it is. At the end of the day, it's a beautiful car that's still on the road. It's an enthusiast car, and that's cool with me.
Heavy regen in a 911 going around corners sounds a little sketch.
Don’t like EVs. HOWEVER when they swapped into older cars they are cool. Gotta appreciate the work that goes done to getting it done right and no shortcuts
There is no Replacement for cubic Displacement
On one hand, I actually think this is cooler than a factory made EV as far as aesthetics go. The engineering is also frankly better than where the OEMs seem to be going. On the other hand, syntho-fuel swaps that maintain the original drivetrain but can match the EV in emissions sound waaayy cooler than a straight EV swap. Either way I, like Zach, don't really see EV ownership as a short term possibility even though I tend to be pro-environment. I'm in my late 20's/early 30's and I won't even consider it until I'm my dad's age (early 60's). Hot take: EV conversions like this Porsche should be more of a priority than fancy new models and maybe OEMs should start making EVs for Post-Millenial generations and beyond.
Fast is fast. Clean is clean. This is both.
Love all cars, even the fucking stanced ones.
I think the EV swaps are cool and they definitely have a place, especially if getting a replacement motor is waaay too much. People are gonna bitch that its an air cooled 911 but Porsche just released the t hybrid 911 and has the taycan and ev macan.
That's beautiful and very nicely packaged. Love EV conversions.
Evs are the future, swaps are way cooler than affordable factory designs, the next leap in battery technology will seal the deal.
Going out and buying a Chevy Spark EV... not cool. EV swapping an old car and making it better than it was... kinda cool. Putting a Maserati V8 (like Jimmy Oakes) in an old Porsche... super cool!
Big fan, new life for an old classic. Better than any Tesla
I think is cool that people take it a step fresher I grow up around gas engines all gas all the time great show ✌️
It definitely has it’s place in the "RestoMod" space and swaps like these aren’t just thrown together, the whole car is gone through and upgraded in every way, brakes suspension steering interior the electric air conditioning everything is better, my main gripe is all the rattles and squeaks you don’t normally hear with an ICE powertrain rears its ugly head, that would drive me bonkers, that and well the wonderful sound is gone, the powerband between gears is gone. I will always be an ICE guy but EV’s like this are cool too!
Didn’t Bisimoto build an electric one a few years ago?
I’m in the “kind of torn” category. One one hand, it’s cool that they’re making EV’s that have the benefits of EV’s while looking amazing. On the other hand, I’m completely with Zach. The air-cooled turbo six cylinder is part of what makes these cars iconic. The sounds and sensations of ICE’s coupled with a H pattern gear box and third pedal is unable to be topped in my book.
I don't love it but it keeps classics going.
IF this is how we keep classic design alive... I'm all in... Cause... 930 > Cyberdumpster
These ev swaps are cool. Because its different and fast with the style.
I love both internal combustion and electric cars in their own respective ways so I don't really have anything against such swaps, even though it does hurt just a bit to do it on a Turbo. I think it generally doesn't inherently make a car more or less cool, it's just different. And I can't help but appreciate the enginnering that goes into these kinds of swaps, there's a lot more going into it than you would expect
Imagine dude just EV swap T-Bucket or oldsmobile
The 1st Porsche that I like.
Not a Porsche guy, so it's kinda cool. I have no skin in the game. Now if it were a 60s muscle I'd have issue. But for this? Get some
2:00 if ev swapping a classic means it gets it THAT hard... we can swap some amazing cars and trucks.... i want a 6 speed and a GV od to go with it, though!! QAF [quick as fucx]
I dope build is a dope build, no matter how it’s powered by in my book.
fast IS cool, function over form. I don't care if the engine is a snake juggling dead hamsters, if it plants you in your seat better than the next guy it's cooler.
I can appreciate a nice EV swap🔥 I wouldn't do it to a porsche but hey this is nice
As long as it's reversable I dont have a problem. I own gas , diesel and EV and love them all for different reasons at different times. I love driving my BMW E24 and rowing through the gears but its still slow AF and if it was EV powered it would make an amazing daily driver. Also , if this was happening in my 20s I would straight up say no thanks, but I'm now 40 and really appreciate a comfortable and quit drive way more then I used to.
We need more Suppy!
I like both. Neither is like the other so I think they both have a place. I do love silly turbo noises though.....
I have a 50 yr old Alfa and a 50 yr old Mercedes and I'd EV swap the Merc in a heartbeat if I could afford it. The Alfa though is so much about the engine and the driveline that to change that would remove the reason to have it in the first place. Ultimately though if you have a classic and you want to EV swap it, it's your car and you should do whatever brings you happiness with it. Just make sure to do it right.
If this was done to every classic/older car, it would be a shame, but a handful of them are interesting. Especially because the EV performance makes them much more modern without sacrificing the cool retro designs. Would be cool to see the EV swaps Vs the OG ICE versions in drag races.
993 is the last air cooled, 964 before that and the 930 before that
I think swaps like this are pretty cool modern tech keeping an old car cool in a different way
And I bet it performs really well
EV swap are cool imo as long as the swap is reversible
I think these EV swaps have their place but the conditions need to be right. For instance you barn find an old one off or low production car. Body is mint but drivetrain is deteriorated beyond repair and no replacement components. Perfect candidate to EV swap. Now let say you come across a running and driving special edition (Shelby, AC Schnitzel, AMG, etc) whatever car that's rough but complete. That's either a full blown showroom restoration or leave as is until the wheels fall off. Also like here in commifornia with all the emissions bull crap find your dream '80s-'90s car an EV swap it. More performance and no more legal issues. Does suck that you won't enjoy that roar of ICE V8 or turbo 6 but you can enjoy driving HOV lanes by yourself.
It's ok to love it.
Not my taste (EV) but I appreciate any modded car and it adds diversity to the field.
A swap like this into a PORSCHE?! I think these are the coolest! Some other classic cars E-swapped is an awesome build.
I personally want a proper Chevelle and an EV Chevelle for the giggles...
Don’t really love it but I do appreciate it. Electric cars don’t have sole
I design classic ev swaps but they make more sense in luxury vehicles
2:10 I wouldn't say its cool......the car itself is cool for sure ! But it is something different and i can respect it and i can respect how clean&seamess the swap is !
Its definitely something i wouldn't do cause i love me internal combustion goodness and id for sure do a badass N/a or turbo setup to rip the streets. But maybe if i had the money to have it as a daily or a cool quiet & date car id definitely would do something like this😄
Edit- To add if i got this car as a shell doing an EV swap would fly across my head 😆
I do not buy cars to become "cooler". For me the performance is what counts. Allthough, doing this to a classic does hurt a little bit.
Swap is dope but I feel like you loose a bit of essence with certain cars, including this one. Same as swapping LS’s into rotaries.
I don't limit my interest in cars. Ev conversions are cool, supercharged v8s are cool, etc. I'm more interested in the self expression of the owner than the mechanical aspects.
i personally love swaps like this. keeping the classic look of the vehicle is a must though. Its no different then restomodding. swapping to a modern engine (ICE or electric) works for me. Electric is also a tiny bit more accessible to some
Ev swaps aren't bad but doing it to a 930 turbo is sacrilegious
It's cool but I feel with old cars, the sound of the engine is part of the experience of driving it
I am a die hard petrol head have been dabbling in the car and motorcycle industry for forty plus years now mainly offtoad trucks and buggies and still face occasionaly I own several motorbikes off and on road tried a electric motoX bike but still prefer petrol andtwo stroke for that, but my daily is an EV
Id rather that Porsche the way it was
If it means we can keep these classic cars alive in the road for longer, then I'm all for EV swaps.
You can still keep these classic cars alive on the road... this is not necessary to keep it going.
The Nest thermostat 😂
I can get with EV swaps A) If they done right - Like this Porsche is B) There was a reason why - like the original motor was shot. All us carcaine addicts know its not all about acceleration and power but the driving experience. Some of my slower cars have are a lot of fun to drive and modify. EVs have their place but it's not in my garage.
Im not a fan of EV, but thats a sexy car
EV swaps are different. They are cool but not the same kind of cool as ICE. For older cars they make sense, also there is something cool about taking something old and making it "modern" and all that.
I do think that they are more important that we give them credit. All of us here love (hate) working on cars. It's important that this mentality of just making things your own lives on through the EV transition. It will be hella boring if cars are like iphones where you just buy it and it's what you get, there are parts available or even any way to mess with the insides of it. I hope that you can buy an EV drive train the same way you can buy a crate engine.
i have a hardcore love for hotrods and customs (because stock sucks), but this feels incredibly wrong to me
Suppy's face when you floored it worth the video alone!
Heart says: Wtf have you done?! You ripped the heart and soul out of this magnificent automobile. Brain says: it's faster than original and modernized so that's cool and this is the inevitable future so I'm glad the car has potentially a much longer life now. Still, good ol' internal combustion engine aaaalll the way.
It's such a weird stance to be like "you're either for it or against it" lol BOTH! We make LS Sand rails at our shop along with rock crawlers and banshees, but our new favorite toy is a 65 mph EBike! I love going fast, and I love toys! This thing is fucing rad
To paraphrase Top Gear, if Suppy says it's cool, instantly not cool
As a dude who will also always prefer internal combustion, when it comes to stuff like this I always question: how rare is the car and what state was it in when it started. Any time a car can get a second lease on life I'm all for it regardless of how it happens, and regular Porsche's are a dime a dozen. Still, if the 930 was in running and driving shape before the conversion I feel like someone out there missed out on finding a sick project for sale so hopefully the engine was seized or something. In terms of EV versus combustion though... there's a reason all the million dollar hypercars aren't chasing performance anymore, and if recharging is easy for you EVs make amazing high-performance daily drivers.
Clean build though, can't really hate and just hope it was a car that needed that amount of work to begin with.