Yukikaze air battle ep 3

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  • @石鶴律子
    @石鶴律子 Год назад +24

    TX-1が、零&メイヴ>自分自身>管制機の4人の順に序列していて、機械が人間を選別する未来を見せられたような気がして怖かったシーンなんですよね。
    TX-1 rated Lt. Fukai and Mave as top-ranked and rated the four control plane crew members lower than herself.
    It is a very scary scene, as if I'm shown a future in which machines will sort out humans.

  • @shipponanoashi6125
    @shipponanoashi6125 3 года назад +65

    堺雅人さん、OVAのEP1では凄い違和感があったけど、段々ど零役にドハマリしましたね。元々声優もこなしていたけど零の様な性格は初めてだったのかも。声が好い。

  • @NomadSoul76
    @NomadSoul76 3 года назад +150

    I can't get over the AI looking the crew of the support plane in the eye before it used them as a sacrificial decoy. I swear... it was apologizing to them.

    • @Tank50us
      @Tank50us 3 года назад +48

      I think it's also because Yukikaze must've sensed that one, or all, of the crew onboard that craft were JAM, and it had no way to expose who the 'imposter' was, and just... well....

    • @Errorcutive
      @Errorcutive 3 года назад +38

      @@Tank50us nope Awacs are cheap and easy to replace. Yukikaze and Its "Body" the Mave ? Not so much. If the super sylph are so expensive that only a dozen or dozen half is produced. Just imagine how much a mave cost since theres only 5 Mave in the show. 2 in this fight and another 3 as the Laser armed nuke kamikaze "Flip Knights" variation. Were talking space ships level of budgets here.
      Remember in this war data is more important to develop techs in order to keep up with the aliens at the very least. Human life not so much, especially i think in novel said FAF get recruits from basicly prisons effectively making them SCP D-Class personel/Penal batalion canon fodder.

    • @Tank50us
      @Tank50us 3 года назад +47

      @@Errorcutive no, I still think that one or more of the crew may have been a copy. Remember that at the beginning of the episode that Yukikaze had figured out that the one base had imposters that had sabotaged the fighters stationed there. And in the next episode Yukikaze was equipped with a visible warning system that lit the plane up in the presence of a JAM copy (in that case, 'Tomahawk' John).
      The other thing that makes me theorize this is that the drone had no reason to 'scrape' the missiles off on the AWACS. It could easily out turn the missiles the Type 1s could fire at it, so it had no real reason to lead those missiles into the other plane, especially since having a second plane there increases Yukikazes odds of survival, and Yukikaze would know this.
      Also if one of the crew on that AWACS was a JAM Copy, then odds are they'd also be reporting the recorded data back to the JAM, so, far better to not just eliminate the copy, but also the recorded data on that aircraft.

    • @byaafacehead
      @byaafacehead 2 года назад +17

      Another comment was saying it also had the purpose of obscuring it's engines.. making the missiles' IR trackers more likely to lock onto the other plane.

  • @K09EE112
    @K09EE112 6 лет назад +249

    TX-1がTS-01を追い抜いてから反転したのって、高温のエンジンを隠してミサイルの追尾を移すためだって最近やっと気づいた。
    そりゃ合理性の塊なAIが、切り捨てる人間に最後の挨拶なんてしないよね。

    • @sisimaru1836
      @sisimaru1836 4 года назад +30

      雪風がグッドラックって零に言ってるシーンもあるし、あんまり気にしてなかったけどなるほど…。この場合そうですよね。

    • @時々エクリプス頼む人
      @時々エクリプス頼む人 3 года назад +8

      丁寧な説明たすかる

    • @hondacb400f5
      @hondacb400f5 2 года назад +2

      なるほどなぁー!!そこが分かってれば、AIの感情を疑うもっと味わい深いシーンだったのに

    • @コメンニャン
      @コメンニャン 2 года назад +8

      味方を囮にするわ体当たりするわで無茶苦茶だけどね

    • @K09EE112
      @K09EE112 2 года назад +4

      @@徳賀雅彦 AIは個人を認識しているとは思います。原作で地上作業員を事故死させて業務効率の改善を図った事が有ったと思います。
      しかし、戦争を無人化したいAIにとって都合の良かったハズのグノー大佐を死なせる決定をしたのは算数の結果だと思います。
      どなたかが解説されていましたが、鈍足なTS-01では雪風が囮になってもジャムから逃げられない、であればTX-1とTS-01を犠牲に雪風を逃がす事で最も人命を守れる(損害を最小限にできる)という判断での意思決定です。
      私としては、AIは無機質なほど萌えるのでそう解釈しています。
      …そういえば原作でグノー大佐、AIでの試験飛行中に強いGが発生する飛行をされて殺されてるんでしたっけ?
      あれ?AIはグノー大佐が邪魔だったのか?あれ??

  • @1337Painless
    @1337Painless 7 лет назад +176

    Well...fuck. AI buying you time, diverging missiles, killing one with it's own wing to save you and saying "I wish you luck" and then self destruct? It's like someone with nothing left shielding you and sacrificing themselves, saying "Goodluck and farewell".

    • @EtienneLudor
      @EtienneLudor 2 года назад +1

      You should give Eighty Six LN a read. You’re going to find more parallels than you’d like.

    • @Tetsujinhanmaa
      @Tetsujinhanmaa 2 года назад +21

      @@EtienneLudor I read the Yukikaze books. It much worse. The AI's are willing to sacrifice alot in order to ensure not just victory, but the safety of Rei/B503. It gets creepy at time.
      I'll have to check out the Eighty Six LN's now.

    • @EtienneLudor
      @EtienneLudor 2 года назад

      @@Tetsujinhanmaa hahahahah funny you say that because the “AI” in eighty six are… well you have to read. Also the fact that they have a KIA board too…

    • @EtienneLudor
      @EtienneLudor 2 года назад +1

      @@Tetsujinhanmaa I’ll go give the Yukikaze books a read too

  • @Hiko-nb8ws
    @Hiko-nb8ws 2 года назад +31

    いつか来るはずのトムクルーズの実写に乗じてもう一回アニメ化と質の良いプラモとフィギュア再販してほしい。

    • @勝利の栄光をもたらします
      @勝利の栄光をもたらします Год назад +1

      2013年に実写化権取得したらしいけど音沙汰無いよな…

    • @GALM1695
      @GALM1695 10 месяцев назад

      @@勝利の栄光をもたらします
      ガンダムSEEDの映画も20年くらい音沙汰無かったけど結果的に映画化にこぎつけたから、企画のやる気と資金次第だね。

  • @barricade8957
    @barricade8957 15 лет назад +86

    Except if you know the stats behind the Mave. Its got a thrust to weight ratio better then 3.5:1 which means even on one engine it can still go supersonic with EASE. Scary tech.

    • @gargarmikejaphett.3840
      @gargarmikejaphett.3840 Год назад +9

      The Super Sylphs have combat speeds of Mach 2.92 in the novels (it says "over a thousand meters per second" in the novel version of the valley chase scene) and could go faster, and that was before the engine upgrade. The Mave is even faster.

  • @osakanone
    @osakanone 12 лет назад +191

    If you read the book this is based on, the electrical resonance in the clouds and beneath them from the gate on the planet makes it supremely hard to get a decent hit with missiles - even a proximity detonation is hard to make if you're moving through the clouds, which is exactly he hit the deck.
    Its also the reason they have the giant aircraft carriers above the clouds and a fuckton of AWACs gear to compensate.

    • @8749236
      @8749236 8 лет назад +20

      FAF has satellites in orbit for electronic and optical surveillance iirc; massive airborne aircraft carrier Banshee were also constructed in orbit then decent into atmosphere once completed.

    • @Verkili
      @Verkili 7 лет назад +42

      No they don't. The second novel says very clearly that the JAM shot down every satellite the FAF tried to launch into space.
      The Banshees were constructed in orbit on the Earth side of the Passageway then were sent to Faery. FAF has no assets in space for planet Faery.

    • @AB0BA_69
      @AB0BA_69 Год назад

      One question - why the hell do none of them use flares???

    • @osakanone
      @osakanone Год назад +8

      @@AB0BA_69 They launched in what is essentially friendly airspace on a test mission to verify some equipment. You generally don't carry stuff like that. Even the missiles you see are just seekerheads and dead-weights to replicate the aero and loading limits of carrying a payload, and the fire control behaviours: Neither are carrying live weapons. The two fighters do have flares loaded by default, so they do end up using them later.

    • @AB0BA_69
      @AB0BA_69 Год назад +1

      @@osakanone Thanks for responding in a thread you started 10 years ago, dude. I checked out some other clips from the OVA and I don't see flares used anywhere. I'm not complaining about "MUH REALISM"; it just feels more like a weird oversight. Same with seeker only missiles?? They have an insanely advanced jet, but no radar lock missiles? I guess it's cooler to outrun or outmaneuver missiles than just smash that red button though...
      Having an onboard AI that can take over and enemies that can try to hack your jet in mid air are both pretty cool though. Added this show to my watch list. BTW, if you like this anime genre and have never checked out "Zipang" and its JDS Mirai then I can highly recommend!

  • @osakanone
    @osakanone 11 лет назад +53

    Its not a dogfight. Its a case of output down in a very thick atmosphere. Because of that thick atmosphere, rounds don't guide or fly straight properly in dives.

  • @osakanone
    @osakanone 12 лет назад +93

    The books say something about the engines being nuclear in some way (thorium, as I recall) which past a certain velocity switch to a SCRAM-Jet mode by folding back the compressor blades and adjusting the central shaft some how, though its never properly explained.
    But that's why ther Mave, even without the Super Phoenix MK XII can make those speeds.

    • @8749236
      @8749236 8 лет назад +21

      probably variable swept compressor blade which slows down air less.. enabling higher exhaust velocity and operation speed. Jet engine's compressor themselves introduce drags since they need to slow down air before doing combustion. If air flows too fast engine will simply under perform and often flame out. However SCRAM jet engine operates on higher velocity where fuel only has few miliseconds to burn and heat up, and this also requires compressor to not slow down incoming air too much. Therefore such compressor is necessary to achieve the condition required to use SCRAM jet engine. (So' you can't use an oridnary jet engine compressor to power a scram jet, that's why NASA used a special ram air intake on their SCRAM jet prototype)

    • @ClannerJake
      @ClannerJake 4 года назад +4

      probably a air/exhaust cooled reactor, they've had a few prototypes of rocket/jet engines that run off nuclear reactors. from what i understand, the hotter the engine can run, the more fuel efficient it is; this is why jet engines are composed of more and more composite ceramics these days. theoretically, if you had a super hot running reactor, you could use it to super heat the combustion products and produce more thrust and fuel efficiency. what's neat is they do have the technical know how to build an engine like this, and darpa has an Ai power F-16 that can defeat human pilots, so, we're not that far off from high speed, high maneuverability platforms that can decimate any man driven military. maybe in two more generations, we'll be able to fight the JAM.

    • @8749236
      @8749236 4 года назад +9

      @@ClannerJake I remember Banshee were powered by nuclear powered jet engines. While spec of jet engines for fighters in the novel are based on fighter jet engines in the 2000s. Which is why they look inferior on paper.
      However, considering most spec of jet engines I have read are rated in Earth atmosphere, they may perform better in Fairy due to optimization plus Fairy has a denser atmosphere (which means higher mass flow rate => higher thrust)

    • @slapittywapitty8173
      @slapittywapitty8173 3 года назад +1

      @@ClannerJake: Sounds a bit like the "Epstein Drive" from "The Expanse." How would this stuff work in real life?

    • @acidkhmer
      @acidkhmer 3 года назад

      @@ClannerJake the darpa demo ai against the human instructor was a BIG joke, the instructor make so many mistakes it was impossible to made so many, it was just a show to impress people.

  • @Palora01
    @Palora01 7 лет назад +54

    I should watch Yukikaze again.

  • @divecolosio4988
    @divecolosio4988 6 лет назад +15

    Whoa! I love that comms at 0:13

  • @T2000-f3j
    @T2000-f3j 5 лет назад +31

    good shit. sad japan not doing stuff like this anymore

    • @kalonsystem
      @kalonsystem 3 года назад +3

      すまんな...

    • @STRIDER503_sub
      @STRIDER503_sub 2 года назад +3

      @@kalonsystem 謝る必要はありません、業界の状況を理解し、良いアニメはまだまだあるからね!

    • @ゲルマン忍者
      @ゲルマン忍者 8 месяцев назад +3

      @dsafgsh
      まぁアメリカでも同じような状況なんですけどね

  • @veloce143
    @veloce143 5 лет назад +43

    このエンジントラブルは、ジャムが仕掛けたんだが。
    アニメ見ただけではわからないよね?

    • @sisimaru1836
      @sisimaru1836 5 лет назад +21

      kei nao そうですね…自分も分からなくて原作読みました。ああそういうことだったのかって納得しました。
      でもアニメの方はやっぱり好きです。これをアニメ化した人に感謝です。

    • @miturusatozaki5490
      @miturusatozaki5490 2 года назад

      雪風がコパイロットの認証を拒否したのも同じ様に副操縦席に座っているのが本物の人間かジャムの送り込んだスパイか分からないから…っていうのもアニメだけ見てたんなら絶対に分からない。

    • @nazirulnaim5418
      @nazirulnaim5418 Месяц назад

      Jam has infiltrated the FAF thru multiple ranks, that includes pilot, maintenance crew, and the whole frontline base TAB 15, that's why on 2nd ep Yukikaze divert from original command and obliterate TAB15 via strafing run.

  • @osakanone
    @osakanone 11 лет назад +27

    Episodes of Yukikaze are labeled Operations (Operation 1, 2, 3, etc).

    • @hemalsheth7261
      @hemalsheth7261 4 года назад

      Where do I can watch this series

    • @venomize05
      @venomize05 4 года назад

      @@hemalsheth7261 tubi tv

  • @シネカス-b9g
    @シネカス-b9g 4 года назад +20

    途中の支援要請の無線がたまらん………

  • @justinm.791
    @justinm.791 5 лет назад +22

    I just stumbled across a few of these videos and it looks soooooooo great... what's the story and is it available here in the states?

    • @AICW
      @AICW 4 года назад

      This page is a good introduction to this show: tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Literature/SentouYouseiYukikaze
      The DVDs are out of print but you can probably find them used for sale. There are three DVDs called "Danger Zone," "Fog of War," and "Evacuation."
      Or just pirate them if no other option.

    • @justinm.791
      @justinm.791 4 года назад

      @@AICW That's fantastic 👏....thank you so much for your help, I really appreciate it!!!

    • @1LEgGOdt
      @1LEgGOdt Год назад

      It used to be available on RUclips years ago, but sadly it was blocked in the States due to Copyright

  • @shuuyaishikawa6998
    @shuuyaishikawa6998 4 года назад +35

    いくら自勢力の制空権内とはいえ敵地なのには変わりないんだから、テスト飛行だとしてもエスコートを1機もしくは、雪風に自衛用サイドワイダーと機銃で最低限の武装しろよ...
    だからジャムに付け込まれるんだ。
    と自分は思った。

    • @hondacb400f5
      @hondacb400f5 2 года назад +15

      この頃はまだ、JAMの目的が雪風だとは思われてなかったので…危険度が非常に低い任務と判断されたのでしょう

  • @sbtjlhw111
    @sbtjlhw111 3 года назад +4

    well that's a spectacular way with extra steps to tell you:
    change da world, my final message. goodb ye

  • @kertaspaper94
    @kertaspaper94 14 лет назад +30

    I like the fact that both english and japanese language is spoken in this anime.

    • @wzx6x6z6w
      @wzx6x6z6w 4 года назад +16

      They're not slacking on using all the tactical terms from books and real life at all.

    • @Tank50us
      @Tank50us 3 года назад +7

      @@wzx6x6z6w The JASDF helped them out with the sounds, and advised them on how pilots and controllers talk to one another.

  • @rainredfox
    @rainredfox 3 года назад +5

    I remember this anime, i thought this was ace combat

  • @aprogress2374
    @aprogress2374 2 года назад +6

    I don't get the point of this entire OVAs, but i always like the moment they bring intense battle without music and still give me the feel.

    • @Blaze1337
      @Blaze1337  2 года назад +3

      I always assumed that something was lost in translation of the series but It felt like that it was about learning to adapt even if all hope is lost. That or it took the Ghost in the Shell vibe and become one with the machine.

    • @STRIDER503_sub
      @STRIDER503_sub 2 года назад +2

      @@Blaze1337 Not everything in this OVA were explained through voice lines, so we're forced to figure them out on our own. I, for one, not sure what happened when TX-1 did the missile bait stunt even if I partially understand Japanese.
      But that one crew inside TS-01 saying "You... you damned... !" before the missile hit might be a JAM clone, because he realized that his cover was blown.

    • @Blaze1337
      @Blaze1337  2 года назад +2

      @@STRIDER503_sub I assumed that it was becuase they were hacked via the Jam and taken over. But I also understand that theres plenty of stuff missing in an adaptation.

    • @STRIDER503_sub
      @STRIDER503_sub 2 года назад +2

      @@Blaze1337 I agree with the hacking part, actually! To me, the only possible reason of the engine failure is that JAM clones also sabotaged Mave's system, it's FAF's strongest asset, after all. And they have to stop it from wiping their entire race.

    • @CyclingNeko
      @CyclingNeko 2 года назад

      A lot of things are not explained.
      The point is, Human is invading JAM alien homeworld and building a base there (the FAF).
      But what they don't realize is, JAM is basically just inviting us to their playground and using us as their experiment and observation samples.
      We think a war, but for jam POV it just a plaything.

  • @BuceGar
    @BuceGar 5 лет назад +3

    Good luck, Yukikaze......

  • @Blaze1337
    @Blaze1337  14 лет назад +4

    @toastertomattoe You could also try Sentou Yousei Yukikaze the full name of the show.

  • @Tony_CDXX
    @Tony_CDXX 3 года назад +2

    PERFECTION!!!

  • @バナナ-b1p
    @バナナ-b1p 5 лет назад +39

    続編のアニメでないかな

    • @小烏八兵衛
      @小烏八兵衛 4 года назад +12

      バナナ
      5ヶ月後で失礼。
      出ると信じ続けましょう。

    • @kna6442
      @kna6442 3 года назад +2

      @@小烏八兵衛
      大幅に遅れて失礼。
      アニメ版の最後の作戦は「地球に帰る」という作戦だった上に零さんは恐らく亡くなってる。
      ここ本来原作では地球に逃げ帰るどころか「大反抗作戦の始まり」なんですよ。
      当然物語は続いてるんですがアニメ版はアニオリエンドにして終わってしまってるので続編アニメは無理です。

    • @小烏八兵衛
      @小烏八兵衛 3 года назад +1

      @@kna6442
      言われるとたしかにそうでしたね...
      自分が観たいのは雪風の続きではなく、硬派でリアルなSFだと気付きました。

    • @nS-jz9ou
      @nS-jz9ou 3 года назад +1

      制作会社が潰れたから無理でしょ。

    • @あじぇむ
      @あじぇむ 3 года назад +1

      @@小烏八兵衛
      硬派でリアルなSF、是非見たいものですが中々昨今の傾向は離れてしまっていますね…

  • @CitronCoffee
    @CitronCoffee 5 лет назад +24

    いつもながら、取り乱すブッカーが女々しくてイヤだ…

    • @xdfreedam1
      @xdfreedam1 5 лет назад +10

      恋人だし、多少はね?

  • @Blaze1337
    @Blaze1337  16 лет назад +14

    The Super Sylph is the plane the Lt. flys

    • @PENDRAGON4970
      @PENDRAGON4970 3 года назад

      Till the decond half when he flies a FFR-41 Mauve

  • @Diamond_Tiara
    @Diamond_Tiara 5 лет назад +28

    no one ever:
    "we don't have weapons, but we have maneuvrability!"

    • @9999AWC
      @9999AWC 4 года назад +6

      Shall I introduce you to WW2 german pilots who willingly rammed USAF bombers?

    • @Diamond_Tiara
      @Diamond_Tiara 4 года назад +1

      ​@@9999AWC no, that's cheating, if you crash your plane you lose. There. Only a win is counted if you make it back to the airport/base/ground alive, at this point I could just weaponize the copilot and eject him into the enemy.

    • @9999AWC
      @9999AWC 4 года назад +1

      @@Diamond_Tiara Well he would make a nice emergency flare if you ran out of decoys :P

    • @mkazharies2121
      @mkazharies2121 4 года назад +2

      *Cough
      TX-1 did ram on the end : v

    • @flaminghailstorm9149
      @flaminghailstorm9149 2 года назад +1

      @@Diamond_Tiara that's so James Bond. Tomorrow Never Dies!

  • @ChrisGuzmanS
    @ChrisGuzmanS 4 года назад +1

    The blonde dude looks and dresses just like Oslo from grisaia no rakuen

  • @Blaze1337
    @Blaze1337  16 лет назад +7

    LOL welcome to anime

  • @SUZUKIGSX1100SR
    @SUZUKIGSX1100SR 11 лет назад +3

    This battle is Ep.2 .

  • @Mandingo_
    @Mandingo_ 3 года назад +1

    The clouds splashed like water when they dive through it 😳

    • @h.cedric8157
      @h.cedric8157 3 года назад +2

      This is not earth's atmosphere. It's thicker on planet "Fairy".

  • @aserta
    @aserta 13 лет назад +1

    @lowerlowerhk you didn't word it too well...there's plenty of dogfights won with engine failures and even a kill scored with no engines running XD

  • @toastertomattoe
    @toastertomattoe 14 лет назад

    i cant fine full episodes of this anime anywhere. should i look for Yukikaze only?

  • @panzermkii7675
    @panzermkii7675 11 месяцев назад

    Do we see what the aliens look like in this anime?

    • @Blaze1337
      @Blaze1337  11 месяцев назад

      Its been a long time since I have watched it but I think so.

  • @Shaquiifa
    @Shaquiifa 7 лет назад +2

    Hey send reinforcements right away
    As the airbase send like 6 Fand-1
    Didn't JAM type one once took down 12 Fand 1 in the first encounter?

    • @lucanorton
      @lucanorton 7 лет назад +2

      Yeah but the FAF pilots have had time to learn how to fight the Jam effectively and the plane has probably had upgrades since.

    • @gargarmikejaphett.3840
      @gargarmikejaphett.3840 3 года назад

      The series itself is a bit confusing.
      1. They already developed the Sylphid during the early days of the war, and yet according to the novel: "While models with the same name and basic configuration had been released, their parts and designs tweaked to make them more easily producible, the original Sylphid's maneuverability and reliability still went unmatched." And yet the modern Sylphids are still getting slaughtered. And the Fand-1 is also one of the OG planes in the war, and yet they're still using it despite its obsolescence.
      2. By the time the Mave is created, there are now about 100 fighter aircraft designs the FAF had built, including variants (according to the novel). Yet the only designs seen and known in both OVA and novels were the Sylphid, Super Sylph (A,B,C & D models), Fand-1, Fand-2 and the Mave (-99 and -00 variants). Where are the other 91 designs, then? I kinda wish they expand on that, since only the Mave and Fand-2 are their newest designs so far.

  • @pakcikdin
    @pakcikdin 16 лет назад

    what JAM actually is? is it the slimy gooey yellowish thing? or just the fighter plane? i'm curios...

  • @lowerlowerhk
    @lowerlowerhk 13 лет назад

    @aserta After playing flight-sim for a while, I think you are right to some degree if there are no alien players which itself is a aircraft XD

  •  3 года назад

    I’ve seen skyhawks with more maneuverability

  • @arexwar2635
    @arexwar2635 2 года назад

    where to download the anime??

    • @Dr_Salt
      @Dr_Salt 2 года назад

      Buy it. People like you who pirate everything is the reason we don't get these type of anime anymore

  • @900ml5
    @900ml5 5 лет назад +2

    3:45 why the message is written in French?

    • @theraiden9631
      @theraiden9631 3 года назад

      I think that was particel from Japanese like 「で」de. Meaning to refer location or where it coming from.

    • @joshuascott2864
      @joshuascott2864 2 года назад

      The "from" particle would be 「から」(kara). "De" is more used as "around" or "(noun) *de* (verb)." The particle always comes after a person or object, so that'd be nonsensical.
      The "DE" in this case is probably some computer term.

    • @こそあどワード
      @こそあどワード 9 месяцев назад

      “Dear”

  • @pakcikdin
    @pakcikdin 16 лет назад

    who's piloting the blue/white plane? the one that resemble the ace combat 6 plane...

  • @CallsignAegis
    @CallsignAegis Год назад

    Danm

  • @yanginkyu
    @yanginkyu 6 лет назад

    ㅎ4년전..대단하다..

  • @mt423
    @mt423 16 лет назад

    It is automated.

  • @michaellino793
    @michaellino793 5 лет назад

    F14+++++++++++++

  • @lowerlowerhk
    @lowerlowerhk 16 лет назад +4

    This scene is non-sense. There is no way a aircraft suffering from engine failure can win a dogfight

    • @h.cedric8157
      @h.cedric8157 5 лет назад +4

      Read.
      The.
      Books.

    • @grahaldmills5930
      @grahaldmills5930 4 года назад +7

      Dude. It's not your grand daddy's plane

    • @AICW
      @AICW 4 года назад +1

      @@h.cedric8157 The comment was 11 years ago (which is ironic considering I'm responding to an 11-month old comment) which was 2009. The books were not translated into English yet at the time. They came out in 2010 and 2011.