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  • Опубликовано: 19 авг 2024
  • UPDATE: Kaarssteun told me that Stability AI is sending them an RTX 4090 as a token of appreciation and will be having them as an intern once Kaarssteun is legally old enough! 🥳
    This is the story of Discord user Kaarssteun (and yes, I probably pronounce it wrong) and how they got their verified Discord server stolen by Discord and Stability AI (creators of stable diffusion). It is a mess of miscommunication and incompetence. Discord breaking policy, Stability AI just being a crap business overall and treating their community like garbage.
    I guess at the end of the day this video tells you why you don't want to be a Discord mod for a business lmfao.
    Subscribe if you want more videos like this. This badboy took about 2x as long as my other videos during editing. However, please do tell me if there are things you don't like about it! I want to improve the quality of these gamer videos.
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Комментарии • 775

  • @NoTextToSpeech
    @NoTextToSpeech  Год назад +1187

    UPDATE: Kaarssteun told me that Stability AI is sending them an RTX 4090 as a token of appreciation and will be having Kaarssteun as an intern once they are legally old enough! 🥳

  • @Kaarssteun
    @Kaarssteun Год назад +5176

    Lmao, that was funny as hell. Thanks for telling my story, NoTTS!

    • @stysan
      @stysan Год назад +295

      Feel really bad for you.

    • @chic3en887
      @chic3en887 Год назад +74

      big sadge

    • @Arylist
      @Arylist Год назад +150

      kind of sad instead that the staff stole your discord and reddit

    • @tacham227
      @tacham227 Год назад

      Discord is a bitch overall. Only reason im there is bcs Guilded is not as good some of the UI is weird but when it gets as good as discord im leaving them

    • @mariodario1427
      @mariodario1427 Год назад +48

      do you like soup

  • @tomajjs
    @tomajjs Год назад +775

    There is no problem in harassing Discord because:
    1. They deserve it
    2. You're wasting your time

    • @LilacMonarch
      @LilacMonarch Год назад +81

      Both discord and stability ai deserve it 100%. Maybe it won't do much but letting things like this slide with no backlash is just a recipe for things getting even worse

    • @user-zd3iz3xx6k
      @user-zd3iz3xx6k Год назад +4

      @@LilacMonarch i mean if we let them get away with ton of crap we'll have more topics of discussion lol

    • @milosauce915
      @milosauce915 Год назад +3

      @@Yuki-qs5mt dam really

    • @Lethal_Spoon
      @Lethal_Spoon Год назад

      @@LilacMonarchbullying is a good thing, it prevents the following: corporate greed, discord users, and that profile picture

    • @LilacMonarch
      @LilacMonarch Год назад +3

      @@Lethal_Spoon It's more interesting than yours

  • @Ceral_
    @Ceral_ Год назад +195

    "If you have a growing community, what do you do?"
    I have feelings about the fact that get yourself canceled on Twitter sounded like a totally normal answer to me

  • @texty_fr
    @texty_fr Год назад +587

    Here’s a fun fact about Discord’s TOS:
    My friend created a server and invited me in it. At this time there were 0 channels and not even a pfp.
    Anyways, I put the server in a folder on my Discord and never looked at it.
    A few weeks later, I receive an email from Discord saying my account got banned for « Hacking and sharing Malware ».
    I obviously didn’t understand why I received that email.
    Seems that my friend had added me as administrator in his server and started selling Malware.
    So Discord banned my account for literally nothing.
    I contacted them but kept getting answers from Bots… great.

    • @elllieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
      @elllieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee Год назад +133

      crazy 'friend' u got there

    • @texty_fr
      @texty_fr Год назад +101

      @@elllieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee yeah we’re not friends anymore 😂

    • @purple02.
      @purple02. Год назад +34

      I bet they were a VERY good friend 💀

    • @mayashtag
      @mayashtag Год назад +8

      @@purple02. mizuki W

    • @AlbinoMidge9377
      @AlbinoMidge9377 Год назад

      Ye that's why the second you accepted that, you most likely didn't have any 2fa settings on so when that "friend" invited and you Dumbly accepted that bot got ur acc token and from there would've logged into ur acc and spread to ur friends

  • @gamersunite9026
    @gamersunite9026 Год назад +555

    i swear, google support is better than discord support and that is so surprising. you'd think google being big company would have really bad support but i could tell google had HUMANS as customer support unlike discord

    • @DaddyFrosty
      @DaddyFrosty Год назад +15

      No, I don't care what u say the fact that I got banned from RUclips from a video that was already copyright striked 4 years ago and then I got a bot response is not better than this Discord support.

    • @gamersunite9026
      @gamersunite9026 Год назад +67

      @@DaddyFrosty i mean actual google, youtube is pretty much separate, i've got like 30 trillion issues with a different google service and i got actual humans

    • @NKillBruh
      @NKillBruh Год назад +11

      i mean discord atleast aint roblox.. I had to bs my way to reset my account pin cause i forgot it

    • @gamersunite9026
      @gamersunite9026 Год назад +19

      @@NKillBruh yeah, roblox support is way worse now that i think about it

    • @drewgraham
      @drewgraham Год назад +6

      @@gamersunite9026 yeah youtube support sucks compared to google support(and yeah they are mostly seperate, have a friend that has worked for both). Have had amazing experience with all google support and RUclips support outside of the team that handles video/channel moderation related stuff(such as issues with payments).
      The youtube moderation support really is some of the worst I have experienced other than discord.
      Have not had the displeasure to deal with roblox support but im not surprised if it is the worst.
      Seems to mostly be a issue with bans/enforcement. If your google businesd profile or gmail is banned its hard to get help as well.

  • @jan_h
    @jan_h Год назад +198

    That companies are starting to gain control of their off-site communities is a worrying trend. It used to be a given that you would go to the company's site to get support, or you could visit an unofficial community to get unbiased discussion on a product. When they get control over such community, they have the power to stop discussion of alternatives, unofficial mods and general criticism of the product.

    • @the_expidition427
      @the_expidition427 Год назад +3

      Tentacles

    • @the_expidition427
      @the_expidition427 Год назад +2

      @Alexander Prichard Companies have tentacles

    • @real_kanye
      @real_kanye Год назад

      Man, I don't know about all that, but I do know that I am the greatest artist of all time and nobody can stop me from making incredible music and speaking my mind. I am a true innovator and a visionary, and I will always stand up for what I believe in, no matter what anyone else says.

    • @SolarizedPhoenix
      @SolarizedPhoenix Год назад

      Perfect example: The Escape from Tarkov subreddit.

  • @Loterrach
    @Loterrach Год назад +1578

    To be honest, I wouldn't be surprised Discord would do something like this.
    They just think that they can do everything they want to until they meet their competition where they start losing users.

    • @cllncl
      @cllncl Год назад +84

      There's a certain point when companies can just drop everything and do anything they want without losing users.
      We saw it with most mega-corporations (Netflix, Facebook, Twitter, etc.), we saw it with Mojang (1.19.1, and still as relevant as it was in 2011), we saw it with TikTok (admitting to stealing data and almost no hit on user count), and we've been seeing it with Discord - data collection, horrible moderation, and now this.
      It's the point of no return.

    • @Loterrach
      @Loterrach Год назад +17

      @@cllncl When you think that you are invincible, you start thinking that anything you do won't bring you down. However, that does change over time.

    • @Max_Super
      @Max_Super Год назад +9

      @@Loterrach when? none of these mega companies will ever lose a substantial amount of users because that’s where people do their shit. you can keep dreaming, but ultimately almost nothing they do will make them lose enough support to make them change it back.

    • @nivada94
      @nivada94 Год назад +6

      @@Loterrach yup, discord most realize they can be easily replaced, there have been things in the past that served a bit like discord, remember skype, messenger, irc? They all got slowly devoured by discord, cause discord original goal was to be better then those, and tbh even with all their shit it still is better then those, but that does not mean that a other competitor will rise which will become the discord to discord, killing it off, simply because it is so good.

    • @Vysair
      @Vysair Год назад +4

      @@cllncl Meta be like: ayo we finna be the next yahoo bro

  • @Bananamann
    @Bananamann Год назад +46

    As someone who was falsely banned for existing during a raid I can Indeed verify their support is horrible. It was swagger souls server and someone was an actual discord admin and just straight up banned me, I wasn’t even part of the raid. I sent discord proof that my profile had been a Minecraft pic for 2 years and I was not affiliated with the Minecraft block raid, after a week of waiting they asked me if I had video proof of me not being in the raid. Like a normal person my computer isn’t recording everything 24/7 so I said no and that I have proof my profile pic has been Minecraft and I didn’t join them. He just closed the ticket, and disabled me from appealing again.

  • @squarenessie
    @squarenessie Год назад +84

    He should delete whole server when he got ownership rights back as middle finger to them, regardless of what would happen, it was his server after all.

    • @LilacMonarch
      @LilacMonarch Год назад +38

      Discord probably would have just restored it for stability ai. Because we all know they don't actually delete anything.

    • @nikkiofthevalley
      @nikkiofthevalley Год назад +16

      @@LilacMonarch Seems like a lawsuit waiting to happen, if they actually don't delete anything. If there's sensitive data in there, and the user has no indication that it isn't actually deleted, that _probably_ breaks a few laws somewhere.

    • @LilacMonarch
      @LilacMonarch Год назад +15

      @@nikkiofthevalley I'm sure it does. One obvious example is when you delete an account, it's not actually deleted. The name is just changed to "deleted account" and everything you ever posted is still there.

    • @Ed.E
      @Ed.E Год назад +6

      @@nikkiofthevalley nope, in their TOS you agree. GDPR deletion requests are separate to this.

    • @Ed.E
      @Ed.E Год назад +1

      @@GiantMushrooms there is precedent, and plenty of it. their TOS is laid out and you agree to it. You can only get past it if it's illegal

  • @Mitsunee_
    @Mitsunee_ Год назад +139

    imagine having someone pationate about your project moderate your shit for free and then you boot him instead of hiring him. "not old enough to sign an NDA" hasn't stopped online "schools" from attempting to rip me off, why not get that kid a foot into the door for a future career that won't get as easily automated away with AI and robots.

    • @millionare5446
      @millionare5446 Год назад +4

      i dont think he lost any opportunities by not being a discord mod

    • @Zabe_B
      @Zabe_B Год назад +3

      if they hired him they'd have to give him money & if they kept him on without paying him then he might have pesky ideas and opinions about how the server should be run. whereas they want total control, not to share it with someone who has a passionate view of how the server should be run. just my opinion.

  • @Hmam_
    @Hmam_ Год назад +19

    man went through the worst arc of his life and he was like: yeah I'm chilling

    • @yapflipthegrunt4687
      @yapflipthegrunt4687 Год назад

      @@Used A stolen account impersonating a popular failur- *cough cough* content creator? I've never seen that before.

  • @donyyt7274
    @donyyt7274 Год назад +18

    "Hey man! Thanks for making a fully functional discord server with 50k members, roles and permissions set up! We decided that instead of making our own, we would just steal yours and get away with it. And no, you won't get paid or anything. Thanks for the server!"

  • @Akuba
    @Akuba Год назад +13

    I am waiting for that one move Discord makes that will drive people away onto differend platforms. I just wonder what it will be.

    • @SomeRandomPiggo
      @SomeRandomPiggo Год назад +3

      I think what will happen instead of Discord making a bad move is Discord getting comfortable with their monopoly and then another servjce that is better comes along. Skype replaced AIM, I see no reason for it to not happen with Discord, especially as they fall out of touch with the niche they market to

  • @20thCY
    @20thCY Год назад +16

    Discord: "The decision we made was stupid, here's your server back!"
    Also Discord "Haha lol sike"

  • @user-ry9pj6ip8h
    @user-ry9pj6ip8h Год назад +192

    Discord be like: Hippity Hoppity your server is now my property.

    • @tobilpcraft1486
      @tobilpcraft1486 Год назад +15

      most funny and original ntts viewer

    • @BYROXI5000
      @BYROXI5000 Год назад

      @@tobilpcraft1486 except it's not original, i see this many times 😂

    • @moayyed
      @moayyed Год назад +19

      ​@@BYROXI5000 that was the joke

    • @Revan229
      @Revan229 Год назад +1

      My question is how this person doesnt have a username

    • @CrackThrough
      @CrackThrough Год назад +4

      fun fact to read along with the joke: in fact, it always was their property

  • @angusstubbs2010
    @angusstubbs2010 Год назад +15

    i remember when my account on discord got stolen, and they literally never responded to my support ticket - instead they returned it because of "suspicious activity" from their end. i mean it shows they have a security system but not a support one

  • @bogartwilley
    @bogartwilley Год назад +113

    Discord is insane. I made a new account for the business, not even a week later they suspended the account, I reached out to them via Twitter, they waited 11 days, and told me to submit a ticket... Wow Discord, you suspended an account that is literally in TWO SERVERS (both of which I OWN!), and has literally not even sent any messages. I'm sure I must've said something offensive to the Server Owner (rolls eyes)

    • @groove7854
      @groove7854 Год назад +15

      Disabled means something else. You're required to add a phone number to an account to use it. That's not disabled.

    • @shadowfox3442
      @shadowfox3442 Год назад

      @Nordin where did they said they idiot

    • @lemmyboy4107
      @lemmyboy4107 Год назад

      @Nordin Roll out the law. Else just go in your sad room and cry why your mum and dad could not give you a brain.

    • @_epiphany5621.
      @_epiphany5621. Год назад +33

      @Nordin they don’t know ur gender they aren’t just gonna assume 💀

    • @itsoutchy
      @itsoutchy Год назад +32

      @Nordin why would anyone assume a gender, it’s basic human decency to use they/them if you don’t know *their* gender.

  • @gingerdanny
    @gingerdanny Год назад +197

    Dont back down and tell others not to engage with Stability. Obviously enraged users is what brought back control of the subreddit.

    • @oh_its_noodle
      @oh_its_noodle Год назад +27

      I agree with this statement
      But it's one of those RUclips things you have to do to cover yourself I guess

    • @erubianwarlord8208
      @erubianwarlord8208 Год назад +12

      raid nuke and rebuild with Heavy restriction laid on the Stability team that join

    • @ratulsaha9487
      @ratulsaha9487 Год назад +7

      @@erubianwarlord8208 wanna plan that out?? I'd be willing to help

    • @WaffleyHD
      @WaffleyHD Год назад +2

      So like delete the reddit and cut all access to stability as it no longer there I try looking up the invite link and said: "This code isn't working"

    • @i_love_games110
      @i_love_games110 Год назад

      with discord you can do way more to maintain "order" without needing human mods than on reddit, that's probably why it wouldn't work
      on reddit if you don't have enough human mods the entire subreddit gets deleted, while on discord you can let lines of code and the built in filters do most of the work, or alternatively just do nothing to moderate and let it run wild

  • @Kennanjk
    @Kennanjk Год назад +12

    I feel the unending urge to harass stability ai about this and I think I will.

  • @Lycaon1765
    @Lycaon1765 Год назад +25

    A company literally BUILT on stealing artists' art decided to be a thief and not keep any promises?! Who woulda thunk!

    • @AnprimGang
      @AnprimGang Год назад

      robots make better art than twittertards lmfao

  • @_Shotox_
    @_Shotox_ Год назад +7

    the escape from tarkov discord did something similar just without the drama it was the unofficial discord for a few years and it became the official discord for the game like 2 or 3 years ago pretty cool when fans of something make a community and it gets recognized

  • @YourAverageSpeedrunner
    @YourAverageSpeedrunner Год назад +2

    4:24 “talking to discord is like talking to a brick wall”
    talking to roblox is like trying to talk to a planet

  • @7heMech
    @7heMech Год назад +147

    I think stability ai are the bad guys here.
    Here is my guess of what could have happened:
    The official representative of stability ai contacted Discord about making the server verified, and since it's the official stability ai server, they just assumed it was his, and for the ownership, he could have said he switched accounts or sum.

    • @potsuaye69
      @potsuaye69 Год назад +15

      well as notts said, the server wasn't intended to be an official server (and i assume that the subreddit was not official too) and that by some backstage stuff happening, the server got verified, transferred ownership and boom

    • @7heMech
      @7heMech Год назад +14

      @@potsuaye69 Yeah, but they announced it as offical on twitter and hosted beta there, basically convincing Discord it's theirs

  • @LiorOpler
    @LiorOpler Год назад +2

    Holy sh*t the discord logo in the thumbnail is an absolute gaint

  • @expwnged
    @expwnged Год назад +27

    "the other options were unrelated" there is no improper time to shill your soundcloud to your growing community
    same with eating soup wit da fork and getting cancelled

    • @PinkAgaricus
      @PinkAgaricus Год назад +4

      "Eat da soup wit da fork" really got me laughing though. I guess that answer was funny to me because it's really hard to eat soup wit da fork. It was funny because if this wasn't meant to be taken literally, I actually took it literally and it made me laugh.

    • @17thstellation
      @17thstellation Год назад

      Yo follow my soundcloud
      no im not telling you what it is, cant Kids These Days do anything themselves smh

  • @ashthewolfdog1380
    @ashthewolfdog1380 Год назад +1

    Yet, people still ask me why I dislike corporate. When they do bad things it's really f***ed up, but when they do really good things it's really amazing and beautiful. The reason why I dislike corporate is because they do more bad things than they do good very often.

  • @Fumblit
    @Fumblit Год назад +1

    off topic but at 2:27 you can see the cameraman of the stock footage on the womans camera which is kinda funny

  • @plasma_45
    @plasma_45 Год назад +26

    NTTS: Don't harass Stability AI.
    Me: Proceeds to harass Stability AI for being a peice of crap by stealing 2 communities from a person.

    • @theitatit
      @theitatit Год назад

      Exactly this. Why should we bend over and accept this? Stop letting shitty people do what they want.

  • @therealOri_
    @therealOri_ Год назад +82

    I know you HAVE to say "don't harass" stability ai for legal reasons and all that.. but in this case, they deserve to be harassed and everything that comes with it, or this behavior won't change and nothing will get done. Sometimes you NEED to light a torch/flame under the asses of bad people who do bad/unsavory things. And you need to make an undesirable mess for that shitty company with shitty people. (stability ai)
    Discord should also be in the crossfire for what they did and for being lazy, incompetent, etc. Otherwise they won't change and they will also keep doing what they are doing.
    Not to mention...If it is THAT easy to steal server ownership from the owner of a verified discord server or not verified. I foresee that being abused and happening a lot more.

    • @NoTextToSpeech
      @NoTextToSpeech  Год назад +25

      Tbh I didn't even say that for legal reasons. The stable diffusion community ripped the fuck outta Stability staff and I don't think having another wave of people hop in on the action would do anything productive.

    • @hidarling641
      @hidarling641 Год назад +25

      @@NoTextToSpeech cap, it was either legal reasons and youtube TOS reasons (probably that one tbh cause everyone these days has a "no bulli" disclaimer in their vids now).

    • @tiranobanderas5655
      @tiranobanderas5655 Год назад +1

      @@NoTextToSpeech Oh im sure there's going to be another wave, whether you like it or not, the accusations of stolen code is surely going to stir up things again. Grab some popcorn, im sure we're in for yet another ride worth of drama.

    • @Sillimant_
      @Sillimant_ Год назад

      @@NoTextToSpeech in this day and age the only way to get something done is to harass and bully companies, for as long as is needed

    • @perdsal8717
      @perdsal8717 Год назад

      @@NoTextToSpeech one wave is never enough, same goes for discord that is becoming the next c4ncer of the internet after twitter and tiktok

  • @Remington510
    @Remington510 Год назад +11

    Hehe, you guys better not check World of Tanks Discords :D Same case. Owned privately, verified. Only between-parties contracts down the line. Discord needs to sort their crap out.

    • @hidarling641
      @hidarling641 Год назад

      I guess these companies realize its easier to steal a pre-established community than to build one themselves.

  • @andreeeee517
    @andreeeee517 Год назад +3

    The more days that pass, the closer I am to just stop using discord and start using guilded or smth like that

  • @Raven-fu1zz
    @Raven-fu1zz Год назад +3

    Should have just hired him as an internship as like a lead PR assistant and just give him minimum wage, would have fixed the whole discord situation, given him something to put on a resume, and turn the whole thing into a win win situation

  • @foned1358
    @foned1358 Год назад +24

    Nah wtf. So he made the server (NOT OFFICIAL) and THEY got it verified (not him) then got discord to give them ownership for no reason and he had no say that’s the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard discord needs to work on getting competent staff

    • @policepolicepolice
      @policepolicepolice Год назад +1

      It made sense for stability ai have ownership of the discord server but they could've given him moderations atleast.

    • @joedartonthefenderbass
      @joedartonthefenderbass Год назад +12

      @@policepolicepolice It didn't make sense for them to have ownership because they didn't make the server

    • @policepolicepolice
      @policepolicepolice Год назад

      @@joedartonthefenderbass they own the buisness, and typically the owner of the discord server represents the buisness and discord is very strict about this too so it makes sense for stability ai to have ownership of the server. Just like I said him being added to the moderators team would've made up for it

    • @joedartonthefenderbass
      @joedartonthefenderbass Год назад +9

      @@policepolicepolice community owned servers are a very common thing. Just cause the server is about their company doesn't mean they can just take it

    • @policepolicepolice
      @policepolicepolice Год назад

      @@joedartonthefenderbass stability can just take it and take it from discord's words at 2:07 "The owner of the server must be an official representative of the buisness", stability ai cannot just make the original owner of the server own the server because they are not an "official representative of stability ai"

  • @rklol500
    @rklol500 Год назад +1

    had a discord partner harass me for 6 months, discord banned me and told me to stop harassing the partner

  • @RonLaws
    @RonLaws Год назад +10

    Discord anything is like talking to a brick wall. They tell you to put feature requests on the feature request forum, and i'm here 3 years later watching that feature now crawl up to being literally the #1 single most upvoted and commented on request on the site, and discord haven't even given it a copypaste response to say they've seen it.
    Oh! and yea, if you wanted to do a video on this. maybe it's boring for you maybe it isn't but the tl;dr of it is that the discord client has feature disparity between the supported platforms. I'm not talking like desktop and mobile, i mean like Between windows, mac and Linux. the latter two do not have audio support for screen sharing, they did once, but the feature was removed.
    There's no technical reason why it can't have this, as alternative offerings of a similar nature do and some 3rd party clients have even managed to bodge the functionality back in, it's due to an outdated Electron version and some small code to hook it in to pipewire.
    People who contacted support about this were asked to put a vote for it on the feature requests, which they have done so in their thousands. the thread asking for this feature has been running for 3 years and to this day it is still not done. not even a response which i mentioned above.

  • @iiiiii7680
    @iiiiii7680 Год назад +1

    I understand in the video you cannot directly send people to "harass" anyone but... we understand the assignment

  • @autisimus_prime204
    @autisimus_prime204 5 месяцев назад +2

    AI art companies stealing people's work? Nooooooo, never!

  • @ProbablyAEuropean
    @ProbablyAEuropean Год назад +1

    Weird that hiring him as an intern, part time employee or anything like that wasn't part of stable diffusions decisionmaking process.
    The kid obviously is showing a great deal of patience, wits and competence by firstly creating such well built and populous communities and maintaining such a mature and professional attitude despite being shown no kindness and multiple injustices being comitted towards him.
    On top of that he's directly and deeply involved with the community/customers, he'd be a valuable asset to ensure proper communication between the two parties and they'd avoid so much terrible reputation as well.
    If the issue was only that he wasn't a representative, and that he couldn't sign an NDA, this could have been solved in a way that would've made way more sense.

  • @etch-6261
    @etch-6261 Год назад +5

    Seeing this all go live was infuriating tbh

  • @MizManFryingP
    @MizManFryingP Год назад +3

    Oh look, a company that exists solely on stealing other people's art and putting it into an algorithm stole this guy's server from him. Who could've seen this coming??

  • @displaced3123
    @displaced3123 Год назад +4

    Disabling accounts for no reason. Happened to me and a few other out-spoken voices out there and since discord support is shite I've still not gotten a reason why let alone my account back.

    • @russianyoutube
      @russianyoutube Год назад +1

      My friends account once got disabled for being below 13, even tho he was below 13, he never ever talked about his age or birthday at all. That proves that discord just randomly gives people those emails and yeah, verify or die.

  • @superJK92
    @superJK92 Год назад +3

    Lol discord paused invites to the stable diffusion discord 😂

  • @Blade.5786
    @Blade.5786 Год назад +2

    So by this logic, if I made something popular and someone else made a Discord server to discuss said popular thing, I have every right to call it the official server, verify it, and then steal ownership? Wtf

  • @cmcofficial1964
    @cmcofficial1964 Год назад +1

    A verified server called Armchair Historian got there account stolen and there verified server was just transferred away and remained verified and it took discord over a week to fix the issue

  • @Ender.wigginn
    @Ender.wigginn Год назад +6

    I'm not entirely biased against Stability AI either. I've had horrible experiences with teenage dictators and community drift, and in one case collapse, due to a few power hungry Discord moderators. That last one involved a server started as an official sub Discord server. For a community to remain positive and inclusive, its values need to be closely aligned to the brand it represents. When it's a Discord server for a sub, then the brand is the sub. When it's the official Discord or Sub for a business, it's the same thing, both need to reflect and be closely aligned to your brand. For a business, when something like Reddit or Discord brings in tons of new users and it playing a pivotal role in their growth, it's very difficult to entrust the future of that growth into someone with little prior experience and no official affiliation with your brand.
    I'm not sure what Kaarssteun's prior experience was with Discord and Subreddit moderation, but going from 50 members to ~40,000 users in just a few months is a massive explosion in popularity, and running a community of 50 members is very different from running a community of 40,000 members. If I was the CEO of a company, I wouldn't entrust the future of my product and vision or the money of my investors into some stranger online, especially if they have little experience running something that large and if I lack the ability to hire them on as official staff in my social media department. At the same time, I also wouldn't grab an existing subreddit or discord server and label it my brand's "official" sub or server without having first aquired it.
    Stability AI should have compensated Kaarssteun for the value he provided their business. Either buying him out with a large cash payment or offering him shares in the company to ensure he benefits from the future growth of the product he helped to market and grow. I'm sorry, but a 4090 and the promise of a future internship just doesn't cut it. If they didn't want to do that or if Kaarssteun wasn't satisfied with the offer, they could just start their own "official" support subreddit and Discord server. On Discord and Reddit, it's first-come-first-serve to the vanity url/r-slash department, and those are things a company should look into pretty early on if they want to control them.
    I'm mostly angry with Discord, because they violated their own policies and TOS in forcefully transferring ownership of the server. Maybe there was some shady stuff being spread by Stability AI in their calls, maybe they asserted somehow that they formed the communities or idk. But I don't see any negotiation where Discord could honestly think this was okay. Servers do not themselves generate income, they aren't businesses, and so they aren't covered under trademarks or copyrights. I could definitely see Discord and SAI having cause to remove the "verified" tag from the server, but the server itself, the vanity URL, and the community were all created by Kaarssteun and it is ABSOLUTELY unacceptable for a business and Discord to conspire to pry that away from him. SAI chose to make a server owned by a teen their official server and were probably the ones who requested verification, I don't see Discord doing that on their own. And given Discord ADMITTED they'd fucked up by transferring ownership and gave it back, only to reverse course again, they know it wasn't right.

    • @cedsgm9205
      @cedsgm9205 Год назад +2

      This comment really shows stability's side of story, while I still think that they should have handled the situation different I don't believe that they did a horrible thing either.

  • @helio3928
    @helio3928 Год назад +2

    remember, folks: discord doesn't have a customer support hotline. yes, a huge company like discord, couldn't be bothered to get a fucking phone number.

  • @DiamondProAlpine
    @DiamondProAlpine Год назад +16

    if i grew a community i wouldn't get cancelled on twitter, advertise my mixtape or make a discord
    i'd eat soup with a fork

    • @joelhoon1707
      @joelhoon1707 Год назад +1

      Yeah, I'm surprised NTTS is acting like this isn't a normal thing to do when you grow a community.

  • @randomjester9836
    @randomjester9836 Месяц назад

    Owners of an ai art bot which uses stolen art to be able to create said bot stealing from another person? totally didn't see that coming

  • @ianbelletti6241
    @ianbelletti6241 Год назад +1

    It's about like trying to build a community server but you can't be discoverable until you have enough members. The whole point of small servers building a community server is to become discoverable in order to help find you more members.

  • @Dilva
    @Dilva Год назад +2

    I guess it's time to move to TeamSpeak guys

    • @olk2289
      @olk2289 7 месяцев назад

      I guess it's time to move to TeamSpeak guys

  • @TNothingFree
    @TNothingFree Год назад +2

    A. Greedy....
    B. More like they covered their asses, the legal aspect of a business is very crucial and wrong mistakes may lead them to hundred thousands or even millions of loses due to legal cases.
    C. Another problematic issue is what happens when a non owner or non worker is creating an `official` community?
    D. Discord again as a company - are liable to any legal case against them - covered their asses just like StabilityAI.
    F. Discord and Stability aren't wrong, they are just AHs.
    StabilityAI went full enterprise bully on Kaarssteun - they should've realized what an asset that was, mark is an "unofficial community" and pay him to help move the community to another instance which was the official community.
    Kids being kids, they don't know about the legal repercussions of trademarked companies - that's why you never call yourself "Official" server of some company you don't even own or have stocks in it.
    If they want an official server - let them invest money, else just mark it "unofficial" or "community".

  • @lippytheoneguy8968
    @lippytheoneguy8968 Год назад +4

    I'm going to harass stability AI. It worked once, it'll work again

  • @nordicator1036
    @nordicator1036 Год назад +5

    dang, they diddent even need microsoft to mess up discord :P

  • @MouseHunteR77n
    @MouseHunteR77n Год назад +1

    That's why said Discord is so bad and wondering why shit like this happened and holes in security issues

  • @leobracken2316
    @leobracken2316 Год назад +1

    (Places down sign)
    "Novelai has image generation."
    I'll just... Leave that there, yes.

  • @ruthinepford
    @ruthinepford Год назад

    the way you use that clown video is so fucking funny because in 8th grade i had to write a score for a scene with that same clown

  • @Norther
    @Norther Год назад +1

    Been watching since around like 10 or 30k glad to see you're more popular now

  • @CreepersNeedHugs
    @CreepersNeedHugs Год назад +6

    "Please don't harass Stability AI or Discord for any of this. It's not gonna do anything, so, you're just wasting your time."
    Dang it! /j

  • @XLGaming
    @XLGaming Год назад +5

    honestly, i'd delete the server if i was given back the ownership for a little bit. If i cant own my own server, nobody gets to have it.

    • @Ed.E
      @Ed.E Год назад

      Discord can restore

  • @campattersonmusic
    @campattersonmusic Год назад +1

    If Stability AI went ahead and made their own Discord and Subreddit, wouldn't this render Kaarssteun's discord server and subreddit defunked anyway?
    Wouldn't it lead to practically the same outcome? Apart from the effort.

  • @Theauramasternul
    @Theauramasternul Год назад

    If this happened to me, I'd delete the server as soon as I got control again. Screw that crap

  • @Janna13011
    @Janna13011 Год назад

    Oh I moderate a server owned by a business/game. The staff atomsphere is really chill and while the owner is no longer active (and doesnt want to transfer ownership because its a verified server and thats messy) the other developer is super sweet and so is rest of the staff team. The developer is like the rest of the community and a friend. I wouldnt give this up for the world. The community is the best too.

  • @ryanronush
    @ryanronush Год назад +5

    Its seems like you starting to hate discord more and more in ur videos lol btw really like this channel btw

  • @FenekkuKitsune
    @FenekkuKitsune Год назад +3

    I hope this doesn’t happen to me. I own the (main) Mann Vs. Machine Discord server (I’m not aware of other servers with as many users as the one I’m in, plus pretty mine was the first, even though I’m not the original owner). Hearing this story, I hope Valve doesn’t sidle along like “heeeey this is ours now”

    • @AyCe
      @AyCe Год назад +1

      Valve caring about TF2, good joke.

  • @notyourfriend7680
    @notyourfriend7680 Год назад +2

    Bro they should have just hired him and kept him has a sort of project manager or sum high rank than anyone else and kept his ownership and this drama would not unfold ☠️

  • @robert-janvanloon1227
    @robert-janvanloon1227 Год назад +1

    my account from 2017 got banned and removed for literally nothing, i tried contacting discord but instead of talking you get useless bots
    there is no possible way to get a real answer from a human from them, they are literally a brick wall. but a brick wall will actually help you slamming your head against it

  • @JaseRoblox
    @JaseRoblox Год назад +1

    guys we should think about moving to guilded

  • @JoyZoneYT
    @JoyZoneYT Год назад

    I think the funny thing to me out of all of this is that stability ai not only steals artwork but discord servers.
    Thief one day, thief everyday. 🤦‍♀️

  • @Hextor00
    @Hextor00 Год назад +5

    wow they really annexed his server like that?

  • @TimeWisely
    @TimeWisely Год назад +2

    Bruh, this just reminds me again of my bot. Discord is a trash company.

  • @subsoniqdnb
    @subsoniqdnb Год назад

    Nah a company acting in a manner like that deserves the harassment.

  • @herobrine_1_
    @herobrine_1_ Год назад

    Discord did the same thing to my let's play channel so when I got back I just f****** deleted it

  • @CaptainCody133
    @CaptainCody133 Год назад

    3:01 little prince goes hard

  • @Gem-gi7km
    @Gem-gi7km Год назад +1

    ok some decisions of certain parties make sense.... like it would not make sense if an OFFICIAL Stability AI was owned by a non-employee of Stability AI, and there were most likely some miscommunication between Kaarssteun and Stability AI when they made the UNOFFICIAL Kaarssteun's Reddit/Discord OFFICIAL.
    However, how the heck did Discord give verification status to the server when the "server owner" was not even an employee of Stability AI? That's a huge blunder and a 100% Discord mistake. Discord should have sticked to their own guidelines and requirements and refuse to verify the server unless "the applicant must be the owner of the server and an official representative of a business". If Kaarssteun applied, he didn't meet the latter part of the requirements. If Stability AI representative applied, they would not have met the first part of the requirements.

  • @AoiNymph
    @AoiNymph Год назад

    I remember when I switched to Discord from TS3. After watching this video, I can't wait for TS5 to release. No shenanigans if my server is on premise.

  • @nomadshiba
    @nomadshiba Год назад +1

    not your machine not your server
    not your keys not your wallet

  • @junipergamer270
    @junipergamer270 Год назад +1

    They paused invites to combat raids from your video lol

  • @nootpooty
    @nootpooty Год назад

    Telling me you wouldn't eat soup with a fork? The disrespect.

  • @grinderdev
    @grinderdev Год назад +2

    They paused invites to the server, lmao!!

  • @RodolfoSandovalRudy
    @RodolfoSandovalRudy Год назад +1

    internet historian type videos about discord would be awesome from you

  • @Omena0
    @Omena0 Год назад +1

    Bro, why didint discord just... UNVERIFY THE UNOFFICAL SERVER??? BRUH

  • @user-zo9nl9wx5f
    @user-zo9nl9wx5f 10 месяцев назад

    This video was so great that RUclips made the video length bar go out of the video screen 😂

  • @DeepfriedChips
    @DeepfriedChips Год назад +2

    It was scummy but yeah
    With parent approval an nda can be signed for their child

  • @RainyDayDance
    @RainyDayDance Год назад +2

    damnn guilded starting to look better with each new discord controversy.

    • @thundurr
      @thundurr Год назад +6

      Guilded is literally owned by Roblox, they get in to controversy at least 3 times a week

    • @PilotMiaoumi
      @PilotMiaoumi Год назад

      @@thundurr Guilded is managed seperately

    • @bobinator133
      @bobinator133 Год назад +3

      @@PilotMiaoumi doesn't matter, the company is pretty much on the brink of collapsing and probably taking guilded with it

    • @RainyDayDance
      @RainyDayDance Год назад

      @@bobinator133 I mean sure roblox is in a lot of controversy but it still has a large dedicated playerbase and that's really all it needs to keep the lights on.

  • @TheOneTrueDragonKing
    @TheOneTrueDragonKing Год назад

    I have a suggestion for one of your videos NTTS.
    A video expose about all the hackers, criminal activity, and malware on Discord. Call it "The Dark Side of Discord".
    It's a well-known fact that Discord is a hive of malevolence and viruses. IMHO they should be shut down or at least boycotted.

  • @crazybird199
    @crazybird199 Год назад +1

    Dang, Kaarssteun is a true chad

  • @Ambermeow
    @Ambermeow Год назад +2

    tbf that person did steal from real artists since AI art uses real art without consent (and absolutely destroys jobs), so 🤷‍♀️ like yes it’s a stupid situation, and between these three parties they definitely weren’t at fault, but I personally think that neither the Reddit nor Discord should have ever existed because they’re just fostering a community of heartless thieves. like you can’t make a server centered around stealing from artists and expect someone not to try to steal it from you 😭 the whole point of the server is that you’ve created a community of people who love taking things without consent!!

  • @KestrelForever
    @KestrelForever Год назад

    They've done this in other places too.
    Discord's support doesn't always give a damn who actually owns/historically owned a Discord server.

  • @liveen
    @liveen Год назад

    Not to sound negative, your videos do seem to be pretty well-made and I kinda like them, and I also havent even gone into your channel, I just keep clicking when these are recommended, buuut, do you make only discord-related videos?

  • @GlobalEl1te
    @GlobalEl1te Год назад +1

    I was a travelling manager for a few years where I'd go to corporate stores and get the numbers up. The gross incompetence of Discord and this AI thing reminded me of my old job.
    Being the youngest person in the building, the only person who actually knows what is going on, and unable to make choices that actually matter.

  • @nilaier1430
    @nilaier1430 Год назад +5

    As soon as I read the title, I immediately knew what this video is about

  • @Ardoy9761
    @Ardoy9761 Год назад

    0:55. E: Have a panic attack and not go online again for a few weeks.

  • @HyperFire
    @HyperFire Год назад +1

    Man your content is golden.

  • @xprlx
    @xprlx Год назад +9

    i had a legitimate # at the beggining of my username like... legit... and then the "age verification" came and i couldn't pick anything so i contacted discord support, after that my # at the beginning of the username vanished, when I contacted support they said "no we didn't remove it blablabla" ... nice thanks...

  • @Maple38
    @Maple38 Год назад

    FYI there's also r/sdforall, not affiliated with Stability AI, entirely community run.

  • @killfected7309
    @killfected7309 Год назад

    Looks like discord only reacts if enough people complain

  • @escaperoutebritish
    @escaperoutebritish Год назад

    Joke's on them. I run their godawful AI on my machine locally.

  • @goodasdead4303
    @goodasdead4303 Год назад

    We don't have to harrass anyone. As long as this story keeps going

  • @DoktorHolidays
    @DoktorHolidays Год назад +6

    i use to be a mod on a server with ~8k members and the owner hadn't logged on for 3 months due to some irl stuff so just as a joke i posted the discord transfer ownership link in the mod chat and few days later one of the admin actually filled the form and got ownership of the server
    (everyone in the staff team was pissed off and due to the massive amount of drama he ended up transferring ownership to the old owner and left the server )