If the @Tennessee story is anything to go off of, these mobsters of online account handles are some truly deranged maniacs. Really makes me hate any varien of the @ handle system in any other website. (looking at you YT)
As a casual discord user the weird random four numbers thing is maybe the most braindead way to have people remember their handle. Like try to add a person from work, oh wait I need to know those four numbers. This is a heavy upgrade.
@@carsonwilliams its a heavy downgrade. what is a phone number, or a snapchat invite, or anything else with normal account names. you WILL have to put in dumbass numbers anyways as there is a finite number of account names people want to use.
To be fair, when Discord wanted to incorporate NFT profile pictures (remember that), everyone was in an uproar, and Discord actually listened to the community and changed their mind on it. And also when Microsoft wanted to buy the platform, the community once again didn't want it, and Discord listened. They're obviously seeing all the negative feedback and they're constantly updating the blog, so maybe there's a chance that they change their mind on usernames but keep Display Names EDIT: Well they're going with usernames after all, however they removed the @ (probably from Linus Tech Tips' video LOL)
no, unlike the NFT update this update is practically already complete. if they planned on taking it back they would've asked the community "do you want this update". since they didn't ask its very clear they have no intentions on stopping it
Maybe It won't mean anything, but my Nitro subscription gets pulled the moment I get a username notification to choose it or whatever. I'm not running nitro to even get it, but I don't see any point in pulling my subscription before if this is how its going to be. Maybe, just maybe they'll see several years worth of maybe significant income by hopefully thousands of people disappear and realize 'hold on a second... that vocal group seems to have a lot of sway on our premium service's profitability.'
“remembering a short username and 4 numbers is too hard, so instead everyone is going to have long usernames with random caps and numbers” -discord probably
@@halisternatorhave your card pin memorised you are smarter than the average discord user because they are mostly kids and young teens who steal their parents money and have no money of their own
the one thing im ACTUALLY worried about is random peopel finding your account. i liked how you were in control of it with the sepcific number tag now anyone could look up ur user and try add you.
I think the best way to "fix" the limited (9999) janes would be making 3 changes: 1)add global display names 2)make it so the discrimantor can be a mix of leters and numbers 3)block unicode characters on the name (so its harder to impersonate people and stop people hard to add names) but keep allowing them on the display name (so people can have their "fancy" names still)
They can just make it 5 or 6 characters. Not only will that make the maximum far higher, you know how many people would finally be motivated to buy Nitro by the possibility of being #69420?
Do you want to keep talking to this totally real e-girl that you definitely have a connection with? Well, it's 99c a message! Can't wait, defo gonna happen.
discord needs to force a vote forwarded to ALL discord users to see what wed want more. it would be harmless and help find out their community since apparently 300mil users use discord, prove their happiness and add a vote.
@@pavlokagioglu8724 Except no, they literally listen to the community. They literally denied a Microsoft buy out because we didn't want it...that's at least millions of dollars they said no to, because we didn't want it
@@cinnastag If you actually think a multi-million dollar company chose not to go through with a major business decision because of what their community wanted, boy do I have a bridge to sell you lmao
The whole thing with “current usernames can often be too obsucure or complicated” isnt entirely wrong but it was a signature of discord. You gave your simple username followed by a few numbers which was quite unique to Discord and with the new system, it feels like another hit to the uniqueness and speciality that discord had
The issue is that a lot of people (myself included) would just ignore the discriminator. Many people would tell the username without the discriminator. The simple change of going from Joe#1234 to @Joe1234 makes the numbers at the end appear much more important.
@@Jason9637 the change is good imo, tho they should just make it so your new username would automatically be your current name + discriminator. Like, thats not hard to do at all.
@@Mikauo_Xblade Its not good at all its just offloading the problem to the end user. After this change all the unique names will just get swept up by bots and we will be left with hard to remember names that probably need numbers at the end anyways. Simply lumping the username and discriminator into a larger string does not make it any easier to remember either.
you know how Discord can actually make it easier to find people?? leave the discriminators alone. just block "fancy" fonts and symbols in the username. users can have them in their display names, they just can't put them in their actual username
@@mimikyu1093 I do that too, I like having special characters in my name and so do many others, it’s literally not that hard. Just change your username to something simple and then change it back.
you know? i actually liked the number discriminator system, it added a layer of security about your username because if some random weirdo wants to stalk you they would need the discriminator too now it's like every other social media, thanks Discord /sarcasm
I already have te same username on every platform making me easy to find I NEED Discord to be free from this so I only allow people I know to interact with me This change sucks
Pretty sure the only people rooting for this change are either people who plan to black-market usernames, or people who think they'll get lucky enough to get a username before someone snatches it and sells it, forcing them to make a more complicated name than if they just had "name#0020"
@@albinidk183 Genuine question, I'm not trying to be a rude smart ass or anything, I was just wondering why you're been using the same username every where if you don't like doing it? Are they just old accounts and you can't / don't want to make new accounts? Buisness accounts, family accounts? I was just curious, sorry if that's a weird question! And you don't have to answer either :^)
@@heyitsalix i use my accounts as my "business" and personal, I'm an artist and I want people to be able to find me. I'm just not a fan of it on Discord where I enjoy it being more private And I know from..experience i don't have time or energy to maintain more than one account on each platform
@@albinidk183 Ohhh that makes a lot of sense, sorry for not figuring that out on my own lmao I'm stupid. Yeah, I'm really not a fan of this update either but I don't have any hopes that discord will change their mind about it, like some people are thinking might happen
Another problem with a rare usernames is you’ll probably be added by a lot of random people, even ones that aren’t in servers you share. And you don’t want to turn of incoming friend requests.
@@notDundi how the heck would i add my friends if he cant friend request me? and another thing, if i sent my discord username to a friend of mine and he said he couldn't add me at the moment, i would not know EXACTLY when that friend will send the request to me, so that thing of keeping it off just doesn't makes sense
@@4GdaTim Just coordinate it, if you have the ability to say you wanna be friends you have the ability to coordinate when they can friend you, don't be dense, the turning off friend requests option is your best option.
The Vocal Minority thing is a fallacy. The average discord user does not know that the username system is changing or how it will effect them. There wasn't a pop-up on discord telling people their names are changing soon, and even if there was, a significant portion of them wouldn't read it or understand what that means. As soon as the patch goes live and every single user loses their username, that vocal minority is going to suddenly be a lot more vocal and a lot less minority. They may even abandon the program if they feel alienated enough.
yup this. If it wasn't for NTTS's video getting recommended to me, I would have no idea about this change. Discord is being intentionally hidden about it to make it look like the people against it are a large minority.
I don't think it's a fallacy, but moreso a misrepresentation. Yeah, only like 0.0003% of users are currently complaining about this, but that doesn't mean that 99.9997% of users like it; They either don't know, or don't care. It's a large amount of indifference instead of support, but to the little piggies at the top that indifference means they're in favor of it.
If it wasn't for one of my friends who somehow (idk how, he just did, and I refuse to question it) got discord developer mode and told our group even before NTTS' video, I may not have known.
most discord users don’t really care about usernames or anything like this, they just use it as teamspeak not a social media platform. im sure at least half the people will not give a singular fuck
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I think the reason why they didn't disclose the information about how nitro will influence the position in the queue is so people wouldn't cancel their nitro if they conclude that it is not worth the wait.
Also uploading files. Not so long ago the default size limit was 8mb (lmao) which made it impossible to upload even a 10 second video of average quality
I switched to Discord from Skype and Vent and other options because they all sapped Bandwidth and didn't feel very user friendly, but this was not only a better option but also just seemed way nicer as an IM. An Instant Messanger. Discord is an Instant Messenger with bells and whistles. Not a Social Media. The consequences for this decision are going to _last._
It's crazy to me how big websites/apps like Discord keep making terrible changes but people just keep using them. Like Twitter, for example - their terrible changes to the blue checkmark and everything, but people still use Twitter, somehow.
This change is not easier. It's an industry standard at this point. Everyone understands it. Steam, Blizzard, and now XBOX have the same username discrimination feature. It's a balanced, easy, and fair way for everyone to get the name they want without feeling like their name was stolen from them. The 4 numbers were not hard. I would often tell people my discord is "the same name, but numbers are 1234". These executive are inventing a problem that didn't exist. They should be focusing on innovating the voice chat space... this is just dumb.
i am 100% behind the display name + discriminator combo, i LOVE that combination but i would be extremely annoyed if this change goes through. (edit: im extremely sad and mad that the change went through but im not hating it as much as i thought i would, not liking it tho.)
its funny how discord is suposed to be a message app with servers as comunities, now they are trying to turn it in a social media like any other but with servers, might aswell add public posts like a account wall or something like all other social media and i hope im not foreshadowing the future
If discord ever starts rolling this out, at least have a ''username history'' so people can hover over the usernames you used to use. This would most likely help with impersonation
@@idioticluker1 First of all, there's no need for it if you only allow alphanumeric characters since the names will always be visibly different. Second, people change, and having to create a brand new discord account because, say, the old one has your deadname in it, or because it aged poorly, really sucks.
@@witherschat There is a need for name histories in pretty much any social space. I can't tell you the number of times I've been looking for someone and they've changed their name and I can't find them for the life of me. I get not wanting people you've just met to know your old usernames (or in your case, deadname), but it could easily just be a list of the usernames you've used since you've had the person added. The only difference between a list of old names and someone just remembering all of your old names is that the prior makes it easier for them to find you again after the change. If that difference bugs you and you want to cut someone off entirely, that's what the block function is for.
It's been over 25 years and I still remember my 8-digit ICQ number. A little 4-digit identifier means nothing; it doesn't increase difficulty in the least. Standardizing names to an accepted character set makes sense and coupled with adjustable display names, the situation is solved. That's the thing that really gets me with all this stuff; we're talking about concepts and technology that are, by and large, 'solved problems'. It's the same thing you see with websites all over the world and username/password security issues -- it's a solved problem, and we have permanent & usable solutions for every possible situation, yet people refuse to learn from the provided solutions and we encounter the same exact situations which require us to 'find' a solution... that we already have.
At the end of the day, they aren't doing it to make it easier for the users. They are doing it so investors can actually recognise it. Like currently a investor would look at discord and be like "ewww what is this weird # for?" But once they roll it out, investors can look at it and go, "ohhhh, just like Facebook"
@ConfusedJay Yeah they pretty much are at this point, I reckon investors are probably the reason why every website we use feels the exact same these days. They really rip all the colour out of a product, but somethin has to keep the lights on
Talking about adding letters into the discrim, Discord could make it in the hexadecimal system, rather than decimal. That would increase the amount of possible usernames from 9,999 to 65,535. Taking that one step further, adding another digit would increase the limit to 1,048,575
Remember, Discord thinks we can't remember 4 numbers, they can't expect us to memorize them with LETTERS too! Too much thinking, better use....numbers and letters in a username. Completely different I swear /s
@@poppyalt7427 Don't see why discord genuinely thinks that remembering numbers is a problem, I would be able to recite my discord tag if I woke up at 3am
@@poppyalt7427 ahh yes having # after a string of characters is already really big thing for our brains to memorize. What numbers and letters can we even talk about. Actually moving cursor few pixels more and pressing 2 buttons ctrl+c/ctrl+v is a pretty complicated for minds of our generation already
I love how Discord is so quick to make bad decisions in an attempt to solve problems, BUT all they do is cause more…It’s sad how selfish and dumb Discord became.
One thing you are forgetting is that people don't read the discord patch notes like any game patch notes. Once the thing gets pushed to more people they will potentially start caring
Another thing you forgot to mention is that the discord rollout updates are so RANDOM that some people have yet to RECEIVE those patch notes in the first place!
Nobody seems to be talking about the P2W aspect in terms of account selling too; some accounts - both with premade sniped "rare usernames" and just old Nitro accounts - are going to be sold for loads of money. How do they stop this? 2FA is so easy to loophole too as long as the # is valid.
Yeah me and my friend were just joking the other day about copping a rare username with the new update since we have old acc’s and selling it for loads haha
I wish there was some good competition to discord, so they wouldn't make changes just because they can, and would actually have to make the changes that attract more users
discord is basically youtube rn. making whatever changes they want because theres no competition, so they dont need to actually appeal to the people who use it, and with no developing competition they will continue to do these shitty updates since, well, its all we got basically :/
Discord's appealing to the lowest common denominator and missing the mark quite severely. The removal of anything that isn't a latin character (no fancy fonts) is a sensible change where as the addition of no longer having a discriminator is rather dumb. By attempting to solve one problem they have created two
Problem with just removing special characters is that if you had them, you still lose your name. Or if your spelling is different. So many people still lose their names. And then we would still be complaining.
Not just Latin characters, this limit would probably be only to ENGLISH characters, so even the majority of other Latin characters aren't allowed. And not to mention, not everyone lives in a place where a Latin language is spoken. What about those in Japan or Thailand or China or Vietnam or Korea or any other one of those countries, where their language looks like chicken scratch to us?
@@Damariobros Maybe a username translate thing could be in order? It wouldn't be perfect, but at least each language could have one definite thing they can type in without switching keyboards or ctrl c ctrl v.
@@NightyFall Not going to explain the complexities of the Japanese language here, but suffice it to say that at least for that language, I can confidently say this idea will not work, nobody would be happy with it.
The worst thing about this system and what also brings issues with other platforms is that someone can easily impersonate a famous person just by getting their name before they do which leads to a giant path of big scams and other impersonation related topics (Such as the twitter P2W tag). Additionally, it'll open up a market where people getting as many usernames as possible to sell them later on - kind of like domains, not necessarily a bad thing but it can be exploited.
@@AlmostNeverrr I'm pretty sure that's a bot, I've seen this kind of thing in other reply sections of other RUclipsrs in other communities before, it might've been back in 2021 when I did, but I know that they're just bots trying to get on ur nerves. Just ignore it
It’s mind blowing to me how people are so clueless and ruin things more and more. Discord just ignoring how we hate this change and just permanently ignore. I can’t stand how game devs ignore us not to mention discord aswell. I only ever joined discord years ago due to everyone pressuring me when I only wanted to stay on teamspeak. Well wonder now if we will ever have another change like how Skype used to be used a ton, curse, teamspeak etc
When you look at # and four numbers after the nickname, it was immediately clear where this tag came from. You know it's a Discord username. Now, you have to guess.
They should add display names and also allow you to use letters in a tag and make them longer, sorta like the way Valorant handles tags. It would also make adding people easier because you would be remembering letters and not numbers
yeah riots system is nice, they even allow tags shorter (and I think longer) than the default length too. And they even allow you to choose your tag WITHOUT PAYING
@@scystep it's not, the tag is mandatory and separate from the username. You also get a display name. plus hashtags aren't something you can normally put in a username anywhere since they only allow letters and numbers and underscores and sometimes maybe dots.
It's not that it's complicated, the issue is that it's different from most platforms, which made it confusing. Many people, when asked for their username, would simply give the name, without the discriminator. By forcing users to have unique handles, this forces people to pay attention to the whole username.
@Jason That is a user error problem. This is an unneeded quality of life change that makes the use of usernames objectively worse. If the number size was such a problem, they could just add more numbers or make it alphanumeric instead. Now, they are forcing at a minimum according to their own post, 1/3 of active users to potentially lose their current usernames? They also enabled discord Nitro users from before March to get earlier access to lock down a username? PayToWin? There is zero reason for this with the excuses they have put forth in the discord news post.
@@youdontneedmyrealname How do you solve that user error problem? Also, it's not really pay to win, since it's too late to buy nitro. They just gave existing nitro users priority to compensate for losing custom discriminators.
tbh the new twitter esque username change makes me (as a small wannabe artist) more worried about possible impersonation in the future than the discriminator system did. like, right now, im chilling w my tag not related to my social media accounts at all, happy with privacy since it doesnt make me feel i have much reason to worry, but when the change rolls out im going to have to worry about whether i should keep my privacy and potentially let someone take my main identity, or take my social media accounts names as my username and be willing to potentially deal w randos friending me. i have to keep in mind what might happen if what i make starts to get attention. and i dont want to have to turn off / limit friend reqs -- i dont want to have to turn them back on every time i wanna friend someone i know. also, what about people who might not want people they have friended on discord to find their social medias, but dont want their username stolen? its going to just encourage username hoarding.... a fun change to the #number might be to make it 6 characters long and allow letters... imagine how fun it would be to open up a hex color code thing to see what color your discriminator is! and you could limit the name next to it to just lowercase latin characters + spaces and basic punctuation or something
man even with this update i have all these problems 😭it will make it a lot worse for me plus my current username is pretty common so someone will be getting random friend requests constantly when the change happens. Or someone will pretend to be me and sell my stuff for a quick dollar.
Remove custom characters in names + add display names or make the discriminator 5 digits long / alphanumeric. It's a simple change but it effectively solves the issue of "its hard to add people" while allowing people to have whatever username they want.
I think something people are forgetting is that discord HAS a tutorial system that they could just utilize better for this issue instead of completely changing the system.
That’s exactly how I described Discord right now, they’re the EA of chatting apps… Except all of the things that were paywalled were all into one thing. Nitro. Not only that, it kinda reminds me of Club Penguin Island where a lot of things were blocked off with a membership.
You continued paying for it after the feature was removed. Seems like you didn't read the fine print - it's not uncommon, most people don't read the updated EULA's they agree to for things like software or social media after all. Anyone who funded discord was a sucker from the beginning.
@@project2957 a lawsuit?? No TONS of it, in my country they HAVE TO give a refund if the thing u pay for is not the thing ur getting ... also if u have ur acc banned for no apparent reason the company can face a lawsuit+give all the money u expent through out the years. (Im sorry if my english is broke not my first language )
If I’m PAYING to use a feature, and I’m expecting to get that feature given that is how it is advertised, and that feature is then taken away, a refund should be in place. I believe there is some form of illegality to them declining refunds to users.
i feel like companies and their "conveniency " is literally just trying to make people mad because not one person that i've spoken to abt this agrees with it at all. also it bothers me that one of their points are "we talked to people and 40% percent didn't know what a discriminator is!" maybe because everyone (including discord THEMSELVES) don't call it that but instead call it a tag?? what is going on LMFAO
What's sad is that even if they'd listen to us and still implement Display Names, which are a great feature by themselves, Discord would definitely make it monetized in some way For example, maybe you could only change it a certain amount of times a month, unless you have Nitro of course, then it'd be unlimited
@LeafBoi actually I think they're progressively taking 3 steps backwards every time they do something positive, which is rare I consider removing the discriminators at least 2 steps back, and there are plenty of reasons which you probably already heard most of
I'll complain that you wrote millibit (mb) instead of megabyte (MB), since this comment section is about complaining about stuff. I don't disagree with several points though.
Discord always makes the best updates!!!! Can’t wait for them to make a update that you need nitro to make a group chat, severs, and even make a call!!!
Why are you so angry? It's literally free software. What does it hurt you that they make features pay to use? Don't they deserve salaries for their work? Or would you like to work for free as well?
@@Hoggins They deserve zero dollars tbh, they make a killing selling snooped & collected data. Why do they need more? What do you think they plan on doing with their Clyde AI model in two years? Letting it remain a useless novelty or selling the model off to a start-up for millions of dollars?
I've had my account since 2016, but I had to cancel my nitro a couple months ago. This whole system is stupid, and now because of the pay-to-win, my username will definitely be gone :(
If discord would want disciminators to be "simpler" why don't they just make them be hex color codes instead and give people a color picker to choose a color that would be the discriminator heck they'll even have ways of making money off of that idea aswell and have everyone be happy. In servers it wouldn't take priority over the role color just some more of a colorful flair for the friendslist and for accessability it could have the same slider like role colors
There are several issues with that. - You can't have a lot of distinct colors (maybe 10) - People will ignore the color even more than the discriminator - Colorblind people exist
I mean yeah it is not really that well thought out i may admit but i think it would still be better then whatever the username stuff is going be since it can be used like a discriminator though ig it would kinda be still an odd thing for colorblind people without a proper way to make it accessible though, the distinct colors well it would just show the hexcode like USERNAME#FF0000 which would be a red color code and #FF3200 being the exact same it would only i guess work like an extension to the already existing discriminators since it would alteast solve that problem discord is orginally solving with upping the numbers of Mikes and Janes from 9.999 to 256³ atleast
@@Clip_It1 hes saying they dont care. aslong as they make money, and yes there is a horible pedo problem on discord. and the worst part about it is you can find it anywhere
They didn’t fix it lol. They had the dicussion with the stakes, said ‘how do we make it easier to add people, the NUMBER ONE problem on Discord. Not our asinine moderation or anything like that. Adding people’ and then “We might aswell just copy Twitter and remove the discriminator, that’ll probably work”
This also is a problem for people who use Discord from other countries. From what I've seen, Hangul, Kanji, Greek, Russian, (many other languages). Can't even add in what Discord probably sees them as, "Symbols." From what I've read, it's ENGLISH letters only. No Korean, Chinese, Japanese, and probably even other non "English" letters. This is going to be a problem for people who don't know English well enough to just translate over what they want their username to be set as. I'm fortunate enough to know English fluently, but this will be a problem for my friends who aren't as fluent as I am. Even with me knowing English enough, I can't help everyone.
Yeah I expect to see a lot of random keyboard smashes in users of non-English speaking countries, like ksadjalks123 or just 123eask12903. It's so common because this practice is done by many other companies.
if that was truly their motivation it wouldnt be that hard, but it would ultimately just be kicking the problem down the road and you'd have ot do it again eventually.
That may cause issues if certain bot libraries assume discriminators can fit into int16, which is wrong btw (they are strings constrained to four consecutive digits for now, their own client treats them as such, and bots should also treat it as such)
5:34 yeah, that is definitely a valid point. Adding extra numbers would work to a certain point (5 isn’t that many, for example) but they could easily keep the same length. However, adding in letters at length 4 would mean they’ve have the option of 456,976 Mikes (assuming I just did my math right) vs just a measly 99,999.
honestly in practice those new handles just result in users to have to make their own discriminators optionally which is I guess not that bad but it's super hecking ugly to have them be part of the username itself rather than name + id
I think that's the point. The difference between CoolUsername#1234 and @CoolUsername1234 is that you are going to pay much more attention to the discriminator. With the current system, a lot of people just ignore the discriminator, leading to issues where up to 10k people can appear to have the same username.
The current username system is great, they just need to add display names throughout discord. The discriminator system is what makes Discord unique, because multiple people are allowed to have the same name, and more popular people like RUclipsrs are easily able to verify their account with their discriminator. Changing everything to handles makes it hard to verify that people are really who they say they are, because the username rollout lets anyone get any name.
I've been watching these Discord vids for a while and I really like your deep-dive and analysis of most of Discords' controversial nonsense as of late. I've been on Discord since the start of 2016 and been subbed to Nitro since it launched (late-Q1 2017), and frankly this recent username change is just Discords' awfful attempt to copy Twitter. You're correct that its all about what the Silicon Valley investors who keep Discord afloat want, and they just want to see Discord "growing" with pointless changes like Clyde AI and username rewrites. TBH, the new username feature is frankly stupid. There is literally no reason for it. Either Discord could just increase the number of digits in discriminators to allow more usernames, allow letters in discriminators or even implement friend invites. This latter one (invites) would have removed any concern people had over what a discriminator was (hilariously, Discord refers to them as "Discord Tags" in the client, so of course, no one is gonna know what a "discriminator" is because thats just the internal name Discord uses) and made it easier for people to add each other as friends on the platform. The only thing they should add from this "update" is the global nickname feature. But the rest of it should be scrapped, because there is no problem with usernames, other than problems Discord concocted on its blog post, rather than just minor updates like increasing the number of digits in discriminators which no one would have likely noticed or cared about.
They should've taken a page out of Riot Game's book with the Riot IDs. You can change your discriminator to any 6 letters or numbers which lets you use the same account across all their games, even letting the same Riot account have different gamertags in their different games. Although of course if discord did this it would be locked behind a big ol paywall.
Even BETTER YET, can't this change just be OPTIONAL? Or do it just for the new accounts? I get uniformity, but I genuinely do not want to change my god given tag with the easiest to remember numbers of all time that I was so happy about for years and actually remembered with super ease.
The discrimator makes your discord profile unique in my opinion, you see it and you will know its a discord account, i get that it needs to be user friendly but its so unoriginal
I have an old account so thought about trying to get a rare username, but hearing about the underground account market, I'll probably just get a normal username to avoid getting bothered. In the end it really doesn't matter at all what your username is as basically no one is ever going to see it
Like I commented on the previous video, I do *NOT* want Discord to change the names to @username. Because I'll be honest... the discriminator helps for multiple people that uses the same username. But if they changed it to the @username, it will be a TERRIBLE IDEA. PLUS, the people that had purchased NITRO to choose their own discriminator will be like a waste of money because they will removing that! Just keep the usernames as what it is! :|
you could make the username similar to discriminator for example: your name is username#3434 and with this new update you can change your name to @username3434 simple as that
In my opinion case sensitivity (and to a lesser degree non-Latin characters) is in fact the biggest issue with the current system and you could fix that only partially by making the discriminator larger. You can't cleanly fold all existing usernames into lowercase Latin; who of Mike, mike, MiKE and マイク should give up their #1 or gets dibs on the five-digit one?
@@vincere_ because youtube never had a system like this, beforehand your channel name was something like UCQ5lrgs4iqMxl3bUzjovtFw or your google account name
one thing i dont see people mentioning is how easy this will make impersonation be. Anyone could now fully impersonate me by having my actual username as their name and go around harassing people and using my name and not only that people will be able to get stalked easily even if they can change names because of how you cant change it frequently
Except now you will have a completely unique username that no one else can have as your actual user name. Right now someone can impersonate you A LOT better because if you ever change your discord handle someone can take that exact one. The old system is fucking horrid for how easy it is to impersonate people because you can have 2 seperate people on 2 seperate weeks be the exact same username.
Why stop there. The easiest service is a service that doesn't exist. Just remove everything from discord then using all features of discord is as easy as breathing
Lost Ark, which is an MMORPG has an issue that comes with unique names. Once a person takes a name nobody else can use it unless the character slot is deleted. People use programs to quickly take any "normal" names, forcing you to be either be really creative, smash your keyboard or pay them to get the name.
EDIT: As mentioned in the replies, this might get the account banned For those not getting Nitro refunded, try making a chargeback via your payment process for not fulfilling service. If it goes through, it might even cost more on Discord's end
I also want to add in my two cents on this feature. I'm not sure if this has been discussed, but what about a potential filter on our usernames? Surely to appeal to investors, they don't want any explicit content in someone's username. I guarantee one of the first people to get this change is going to change their name to something like @weedsexhaver69. But the issue is... How much do we trust Discord's filter? Will they be too lax and allow people with inappropriate usernames to go unchecked? Will we be allowed to cuss in our usernames? What about usernames with slurs or derogatory terms-- Will they be checked? Or will they be too strict with their censoring? Will the trigger end up banning usernames like @amethyst because it has meth in it? Will any "funny numbers" count as inappropriate? Is it possible that accounts with an "inappropriate" username will only be allowed to add friends that are 18+ in the system, therefore blocking them from adding friends who are minors or falsely set their age (kind of like how Tumblr or Twitter has it)? I'm assuming if it's anything like they've done in the past, the usernames are going to be entirely unchecked. If I had to bet money, they're going to not put a filter on usernames, but then as soon as something offensive pops up in them and gets them flagged as 18+ on the App Store or Cheryl threatens a lawsuit because she caught Little Timmy talking to @gorillapussy, they're going to scramble to make a poorly-made filter that ends up banning a ton of people and/or causing a lot of frustration that they won't address. Your alleged fight against pedophilia on your platform is not going to look good if you have people with the handle @itouchkids running around, Discord.
I hate that they're "fixing" this problem by... making it *worse*, they're making usernames case-sensitive. Shits going to get out of hand. Edit: kill your nitro sub anyway. They'll flinch first, just like with NFTs.
ooop, looks like friend invites are still possible. But Discord definitely aint doing anything with them at the moment :(
my reaction to this information:
Dude I just want my darn 2fa disabled since I l8st acess to My codes is there anything you can do to help with that?😊
rip
im now gonna impersonate you while its still possible thanks for the step by step guide
How?
Discord really knows their audience when they know that they can't remember 4 numbers.
@Alex: The Movie youre the one coping by trying to rationalize that this is a good idea
No they don't, cause then they'd also know that we can't remembers words either
@@ChronoMoth my brother in christ, it's a bot
@Alex: The Movie using capital letters really means that you are coping lmao
@Alex: The Movie shut up
What discord could've done:
- Add an extra zero to the discriminator.
What they did:
Opened up a black market for usernames.
They are already doing the "No custom unicode characters in usernames. They're fine in nicknames though." though.
I wouldn't mind having a hex code as a discriminator!
If the @Tennessee story is anything to go off of, these mobsters of online account handles are some truly deranged maniacs.
Really makes me hate any varien of the @ handle system in any other website. (looking at you YT)
@@GameMaker3_5 and it's gonna be way worse cause it's discord, you know how people are there
@@erkinalp Yeah, but I wanted them to do it to the original username system.
Wow Discord really does like gaming! They’re obsessed with pay to win mechanics and speed-running terrible decisions
Lmfao. I rolled over the floor while reading this
funny scp man
I prefer to call them a "sense of pride and accomplishment for unlocking different usernames" myself, but what do i know🤪
what do you pay for, to win in this case?
cos discord is free and i have my own username. i havent paid for anything to win it
I LOVE that every good thing is spoiled over time
slowly... youtube probsbly will... eventually ;-;
(edit: i get it yall plz stop telling me yt is already ruined my notifications are dying)
@alexthemovie2915nah this update is ass 😭
@@bankangle6062 youtube was ruined long ago :/ I still wish for 2000s and pre-2012 youtube
@@bankangle6062 dont jinx. this is the only good thing now
@@StellarCrackhead42 how?
Can’t wait for sending messages to be the new nitro perk!
@@David280GG its just a comment lmao
@@David280GG skill issue
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@@David280GG skin tissue
buys nitro to talk in VCs
honestly adding a display name without removing the old username system wouldve been an infinitely better decision
real
I agree there
Sort of already have that just at the control of server owners.
As a casual discord user the weird random four numbers thing is maybe the most braindead way to have people remember their handle. Like try to add a person from work, oh wait I need to know those four numbers. This is a heavy upgrade.
@@carsonwilliams its a heavy downgrade. what is a phone number, or a snapchat invite, or anything else with normal account names. you WILL have to put in dumbass numbers anyways as there is a finite number of account names people want to use.
Seems like Discord is really quick and good at taking bad decisions.
@alexthemovie2915man isn't gaining attention lmao
@@modder853 fr
@alexthemovie2915I guess replying in every comment is not enough for ya, opinions will not change because of you lol
@Alex: The Movie ur 12 lmao
Not even letting us change our username smh
To be fair, when Discord wanted to incorporate NFT profile pictures (remember that), everyone was in an uproar, and Discord actually listened to the community and changed their mind on it. And also when Microsoft wanted to buy the platform, the community once again didn't want it, and Discord listened. They're obviously seeing all the negative feedback and they're constantly updating the blog, so maybe there's a chance that they change their mind on usernames but keep Display Names
EDIT: Well they're going with usernames after all, however they removed the @ (probably from Linus Tech Tips' video LOL)
Idk if as many people would complain about it as those other two things cuz while this thing sucks those were awful garbage
no, unlike the NFT update this update is practically already complete. if they planned on taking it back they would've asked the community "do you want this update". since they didn't ask its very clear they have no intentions on stopping it
@@bleedingg 💀
@Alex: The Movie cool but did we ask?
Maybe It won't mean anything, but my Nitro subscription gets pulled the moment I get a username notification to choose it or whatever. I'm not running nitro to even get it, but I don't see any point in pulling my subscription before if this is how its going to be. Maybe, just maybe they'll see several years worth of maybe significant income by hopefully thousands of people disappear and realize 'hold on a second... that vocal group seems to have a lot of sway on our premium service's profitability.'
“remembering a short username and 4 numbers is too hard, so instead everyone is going to have long usernames with random caps and numbers”
-discord probably
Have your own phone number memorized? You’re smarter than the average discord user, according to the developers!
@@halisternatorhave your card pin memorised you are smarter than the average discord user because they are mostly kids and young teens who steal their parents money and have no money of their own
the one thing im ACTUALLY worried about is random peopel finding your account. i liked how you were in control of it with the sepcific number tag now anyone could look up ur user and try add you.
FR BRUH discord is just trying to become basic atp .. the #0000 is unique its sad they're changing it
yeah ikr, i don’t want ppl to find me easily, i use discord as a chat client not a social media
EXACTLY
Fun fact, they've been planning to make it pay to win before they announced it. The data collecting community works wonders.
@Alex: The Movie "your mother, i have relations with" - Yoda
@@Daniel-uc9ll Don't feed the bot
@@chickpea friendly reminder that you can report bots, I find the best to be unwanted commercial content or spam as it is spam
@@chickpeait's not even a bot it's just some annoying kid
Why not make discord a 9.99 paid application?
Every company is in a race to see who can make the most worst decisions possible before they go bankrupt, and all of them are winning.
Normal person finds out about monopolies
I think the best way to "fix" the limited (9999) janes would be making 3 changes:
1)add global display names
2)make it so the discrimantor can be a mix of leters and numbers
3)block unicode characters on the name (so its harder to impersonate people and stop people hard to add names) but keep allowing them on the display name (so people can have their "fancy" names still)
@alexthemovie2915ok
all of these things are already being implemented, as stated by discord in the article
or they could just add a number(or two) like blizzard
@Alex: The Movie your mom is super proud of you
They can just make it 5 or 6 characters. Not only will that make the maximum far higher, you know how many people would finally be motivated to buy Nitro by the possibility of being #69420?
Cant wait till discord starts charging 0.99$ to send a message
Do you want to keep talking to this totally real e-girl that you definitely have a connection with? Well, it's 99c a message!
Can't wait, defo gonna happen.
ea sports behaviour
0.99$ they’re way greedier than that
@@Slownesss real
Not stupid or greedy enough. 0.99$ to receive messages, no way to stop them from coming
discord needs to force a vote forwarded to ALL discord users to see what wed want more. it would be harmless and help find out their community since apparently 300mil users use discord, prove their happiness and add a vote.
That wouldn’t win a power hungry corporation any power. They want to force their updates onto us
@@pavlokagioglu8724 Except no, they literally listen to the community. They literally denied a Microsoft buy out because we didn't want it...that's at least millions of dollars they said no to, because we didn't want it
@@cinnastag If you actually think a multi-million dollar company chose not to go through with a major business decision because of what their community wanted, boy do I have a bridge to sell you lmao
i sure do love when corporations get away with shitty changes because they still get money and there is no better app to move to
Always got guilded, has was Discord has and then some
People really out here blowing a simple name change that hardly matters out of proportion. Dunno what I expected from the internet.
guilded exists
its better i think
@@nexus9020its not popular
@@Wertyhappy27 guilded has like 2 users
The whole thing with “current usernames can often be too obsucure or complicated” isnt entirely wrong but it was a signature of discord. You gave your simple username followed by a few numbers which was quite unique to Discord and with the new system, it feels like another hit to the uniqueness and speciality that discord had
The issue is that a lot of people (myself included) would just ignore the discriminator. Many people would tell the username without the discriminator. The simple change of going from Joe#1234 to @Joe1234 makes the numbers at the end appear much more important.
@@Jason9637 the change is good imo, tho they should just make it so your new username would automatically be your current name + discriminator. Like, thats not hard to do at all.
@@Mikauo_Xblade I think that's the default if you don't bother picking your own
@@Mikauo_Xblade Its not good at all its just offloading the problem to the end user.
After this change all the unique names will just get swept up by bots and we will be left with hard to remember names that probably need numbers at the end anyways.
Simply lumping the username and discriminator into a larger string does not make it any easier to remember either.
@@ipodtouchiscoollol My dudes, its 4 numbers
I think that the the 4 numbers as a tag is a very good thing, it can basically say that it's a discord nickname instead of some twitter or whatever
you know how Discord can actually make it easier to find people?? leave the discriminators alone. just block "fancy" fonts and symbols in the username. users can have them in their display names, they just can't put them in their actual username
Holy fuck ikr
i just change my name to something simple so someone can add me then change it back tbh it’s much easier than having two names
@@mimikyu1093 I do that too, I like having special characters in my name and so do many others, it’s literally not that hard. Just change your username to something simple and then change it back.
Thisss
If you don't want special characters in usernames then don't use them
you know? i actually liked the number discriminator system, it added a layer of security about your username because if some random weirdo wants to stalk you they would need the discriminator too
now it's like every other social media, thanks Discord /sarcasm
I already have te same username on every platform making me easy to find I NEED Discord to be free from this so I only allow people I know to interact with me
This change sucks
Pretty sure the only people rooting for this change are either people who plan to black-market usernames, or people who think they'll get lucky enough to get a username before someone snatches it and sells it, forcing them to make a more complicated name than if they just had "name#0020"
@@albinidk183 Genuine question, I'm not trying to be a rude smart ass or anything, I was just wondering why you're been using the same username every where if you don't like doing it? Are they just old accounts and you can't / don't want to make new accounts? Buisness accounts, family accounts? I was just curious, sorry if that's a weird question! And you don't have to answer either :^)
@@heyitsalix i use my accounts as my "business" and personal, I'm an artist and I want people to be able to find me. I'm just not a fan of it on Discord where I enjoy it being more private
And I know from..experience i don't have time or energy to maintain more than one account on each platform
@@albinidk183 Ohhh that makes a lot of sense, sorry for not figuring that out on my own lmao I'm stupid. Yeah, I'm really not a fan of this update either but I don't have any hopes that discord will change their mind about it, like some people are thinking might happen
Pretty sure you can take them to court for not providing a refund for removing a previously advertised feature.
heck yeah
Free money.
Another problem with a rare usernames is you’ll probably be added by a lot of random people, even ones that aren’t in servers you share. And you don’t want to turn of incoming friend requests.
You can disable or limit friend requests in your settings so that you get less or none of them but that's not always ideal.
Why wouldn't you want to turn off friend requests, exactly?
@@notDundi how the heck would i add my friends if he cant friend request me? and another thing, if i sent my discord username to a friend of mine and he said he couldn't add me at the moment, i would not know EXACTLY when that friend will send the request to me, so that thing of keeping it off just doesn't makes sense
@@4GdaTim Just coordinate it, if you have the ability to say you wanna be friends you have the ability to coordinate when they can friend you, don't be dense, the turning off friend requests option is your best option.
@@Momofan69 here's a better solution: don't make dumbass Twitter decision and implement them 🤡
The Vocal Minority thing is a fallacy. The average discord user does not know that the username system is changing or how it will effect them. There wasn't a pop-up on discord telling people their names are changing soon, and even if there was, a significant portion of them wouldn't read it or understand what that means. As soon as the patch goes live and every single user loses their username, that vocal minority is going to suddenly be a lot more vocal and a lot less minority. They may even abandon the program if they feel alienated enough.
yup this. If it wasn't for NTTS's video getting recommended to me, I would have no idea about this change. Discord is being intentionally hidden about it to make it look like the people against it are a large minority.
I don't think it's a fallacy, but moreso a misrepresentation.
Yeah, only like 0.0003% of users are currently complaining about this, but that doesn't mean that 99.9997% of users like it; They either don't know, or don't care. It's a large amount of indifference instead of support, but to the little piggies at the top that indifference means they're in favor of it.
i hope it happens
If it wasn't for one of my friends who somehow (idk how, he just did, and I refuse to question it) got discord developer mode and told our group even before NTTS' video, I may not have known.
most discord users don’t really care about usernames or anything like this, they just use it as teamspeak not a social media platform. im sure at least half the people will not give a singular fuck
I think the reason why they didn't disclose the information about how nitro will influence the position in the queue is so people wouldn't cancel their nitro if they conclude that it is not worth the wait.
Lets be real, no one, NO one pays nitro only for the nickname, its for the emojis as well 100%
nah theres some people
and the boosts, and the themes, and the soundboard, and everything else nitro offers
@alexthemovie2915okay kiddo
i only buy my nitro for profile tag, color, and banner 😭
Also uploading files. Not so long ago the default size limit was 8mb (lmao) which made it impossible to upload even a 10 second video of average quality
I switched to Discord from Skype and Vent and other options because they all sapped Bandwidth and didn't feel very user friendly, but this was not only a better option but also just seemed way nicer as an IM. An Instant Messanger.
Discord is an Instant Messenger with bells and whistles. Not a Social Media.
The consequences for this decision are going to _last._
@Alex: The Movie You're literally the essence of copium acting like live is a movie lmao. I bet you listen to FiR.
@@midnightlycanfox6280 It's a bot
@@chickpea reminder that you can report spam bots for unwanted commercial content or spam
@@gungle2595 that doesnt work tho because youtube couldn't care less
@@StillSpacey it actually does lmai
The fact that it specifies nitro before march tells me they spoke to legal and realised that refusing refunds was grounds for a law suit
Why tf did Discord went from the platform that actually listens to everyone to an average platform
Power corrupts
@BlackLivesMatter it is
Money, unfortunately. They became the very things they sought to replace.
@@BrownFoxWarrior They are really waiting for daddy Microsoft to pick them up once they become the average platform
lol, happens with all companies
It's crazy to me how big websites/apps like Discord keep making terrible changes but people just keep using them. Like Twitter, for example - their terrible changes to the blue checkmark and everything, but people still use Twitter, somehow.
a lot less people thankfully
where else would the internet’s stinky sweaty landfill be if twitter weren’t here?
because nobody actually cares
@@terntetrnetrnternenrt mostly this tbh. people just like bitching about shit but don't really care enough to do something about it.
because nobody actually cares
This change is not easier. It's an industry standard at this point. Everyone understands it. Steam, Blizzard, and now XBOX have the same username discrimination feature. It's a balanced, easy, and fair way for everyone to get the name they want without feeling like their name was stolen from them. The 4 numbers were not hard. I would often tell people my discord is "the same name, but numbers are 1234". These executive are inventing a problem that didn't exist. They should be focusing on innovating the voice chat space... this is just dumb.
i am 100% behind the display name + discriminator combo, i LOVE that combination but i would be extremely annoyed if this change goes through. (edit: im extremely sad and mad that the change went through but im not hating it as much as i thought i would, not liking it tho.)
Thats a discord thing thats why i like it, sharing the name with the discriminator is what makes it unique
Use me as a downvote
@@Clxiro ....Yeaaah i'll pass taking your downvote offer, rather not get stalked for having a username some neckbeard demands i give them.
Yup.. + you can still copy your Username if it's to hard for someone to add somebody..
Its bad for others
its funny how discord is suposed to be a message app with servers as comunities, now they are trying to turn it in a social media like any other but with servers, might aswell add public posts like a account wall or something like all other social media and i hope im not foreshadowing the future
Do NOT give them ideas
Imagine they do the reddit thing where you cant make servers without having some sort of currency
@@HappyManOfficial what are you even talking about?
Have you seen the new mobile design? Thats clearly where they are headed.
Ew pls no.
If discord ever starts rolling this out, at least have a ''username history'' so people can hover over the usernames you used to use. This would most likely help with impersonation
As a trans person, please don't.
@@witherschat Cope
@@witherschat why not..? This would help with trolls,impersonators,and server raiders
@@idioticluker1 First of all, there's no need for it if you only allow alphanumeric characters since the names will always be visibly different.
Second, people change, and having to create a brand new discord account because, say, the old one has your deadname in it, or because it aged poorly, really sucks.
@@witherschat There is a need for name histories in pretty much any social space. I can't tell you the number of times I've been looking for someone and they've changed their name and I can't find them for the life of me. I get not wanting people you've just met to know your old usernames (or in your case, deadname), but it could easily just be a list of the usernames you've used since you've had the person added. The only difference between a list of old names and someone just remembering all of your old names is that the prior makes it easier for them to find you again after the change. If that difference bugs you and you want to cut someone off entirely, that's what the block function is for.
It's been over 25 years and I still remember my 8-digit ICQ number. A little 4-digit identifier means nothing; it doesn't increase difficulty in the least. Standardizing names to an accepted character set makes sense and coupled with adjustable display names, the situation is solved. That's the thing that really gets me with all this stuff; we're talking about concepts and technology that are, by and large, 'solved problems'. It's the same thing you see with websites all over the world and username/password security issues -- it's a solved problem, and we have permanent & usable solutions for every possible situation, yet people refuse to learn from the provided solutions and we encounter the same exact situations which require us to 'find' a solution... that we already have.
And it never crossed discords mind to just.. add nicknames and keep the #0000 system
I get where you're coming from but that still limits the actual @name amount (10000 johns)
@radishcatish wait wym
@@dawnscript1 I think they’re saying there can be 9999 Johns and not 10000
@@dawnscript1 neither does the 1 person @username
@@law_master I was never defending that point what does that have to do with this
At the end of the day, they aren't doing it to make it easier for the users.
They are doing it so investors can actually recognise it. Like currently a investor would look at discord and be like "ewww what is this weird # for?"
But once they roll it out, investors can look at it and go, "ohhhh, just like Facebook"
Big oof :(
it's funny how "investor" is basically short for "dumbass with too much money" at this point
@ConfusedJay Yeah they pretty much are at this point, I reckon investors are probably the reason why every website we use feels the exact same these days.
They really rip all the colour out of a product, but somethin has to keep the lights on
Talking about adding letters into the discrim, Discord could make it in the hexadecimal system, rather than decimal. That would increase the amount of possible usernames from 9,999 to 65,535. Taking that one step further, adding another digit would increase the limit to 1,048,575
just adding a-z letters would make limit 1,679,615 users per nickname
Remember, Discord thinks we can't remember 4 numbers, they can't expect us to memorize them with LETTERS too! Too much thinking, better use....numbers and letters in a username. Completely different I swear /s
@@poppyalt7427 Don't see why discord genuinely thinks that remembering numbers is a problem, I would be able to recite my discord tag if I woke up at 3am
@@poppyalt7427 ahh yes having # after a string of characters is already really big thing for our brains to memorize. What numbers and letters can we even talk about. Actually moving cursor few pixels more and pressing 2 buttons ctrl+c/ctrl+v is a pretty complicated for minds of our generation already
@@Bracka1337 then people could put funny words as their nitro thing too
I love how Discord is so quick to make bad decisions in an attempt to solve problems, BUT all they do is cause more…It’s sad how selfish and dumb Discord became.
One thing you are forgetting is that people don't read the discord patch notes like any game patch notes. Once the thing gets pushed to more people they will potentially start caring
I don't think that most people care still
Another thing you forgot to mention is that the discord rollout updates are so RANDOM that some people have yet to RECEIVE those patch notes in the first place!
@@thechugg4372fr I can’t even access the what’s new section in settings
@Alex: The Movie this is gonna make scams skyrocket, you obviously haven't actually thought about the consequences
Nobody seems to be talking about the P2W aspect in terms of account selling too; some accounts - both with premade sniped "rare usernames" and just old Nitro accounts - are going to be sold for loads of money. How do they stop this? 2FA is so easy to loophole too as long as the # is valid.
Yeah me and my friend were just joking the other day about copping a rare username with the new update since we have old acc’s and selling it for loads haha
@@voracities account age?
@@voracities old has to be like 2015-2016
I wish there was some good competition to discord, so they wouldn't make changes just because they can, and would actually have to make the changes that attract more users
discord is basically youtube rn. making whatever changes they want because theres no competition, so they dont need to actually appeal to the people who use it, and with no developing competition they will continue to do these shitty updates since, well, its all we got basically :/
@@BlackLivesMatter1414 I'm staying cause there's no alternative, if your only options are stay or leave entirely those are bad fucking options
@@BlackLivesMatter1414 I tried to leave but my friends laughed at my face when I suggested any other platform
@BlackLivesMatter 🤓
Guilded is an alternative, but probably not as good of an alternative
Discord's appealing to the lowest common denominator and missing the mark quite severely. The removal of anything that isn't a latin character (no fancy fonts) is a sensible change where as the addition of no longer having a discriminator is rather dumb. By attempting to solve one problem they have created two
Problem with just removing special characters is that if you had them, you still lose your name. Or if your spelling is different. So many people still lose their names. And then we would still be complaining.
Not just Latin characters, this limit would probably be only to ENGLISH characters, so even the majority of other Latin characters aren't allowed.
And not to mention, not everyone lives in a place where a Latin language is spoken. What about those in Japan or Thailand or China or Vietnam or Korea or any other one of those countries, where their language looks like chicken scratch to us?
@@Damariobros Maybe a username translate thing could be in order? It wouldn't be perfect, but at least each language could have one definite thing they can type in without switching keyboards or ctrl c ctrl v.
@@NightyFall Not going to explain the complexities of the Japanese language here, but suffice it to say that at least for that language, I can confidently say this idea will not work, nobody would be happy with it.
@@MuffinTastic Can't they use romaji?
The worst thing about this system and what also brings issues with other platforms is that someone can easily impersonate a famous person just by getting their name before they do which leads to a giant path of big scams and other impersonation related topics (Such as the twitter P2W tag). Additionally, it'll open up a market where people getting as many usernames as possible to sell them later on - kind of like domains, not necessarily a bad thing but it can be exploited.
"They want the dumbest people to be able to use Discord, which might ve Discord trying to use Discord" truer words have never been said before
@Alex: The Movie u name better be as
@@AlmostNeverrr dude got ratioed so hard multiple times in the comments haha
@@AlmostNeverrr I'm pretty sure that's a bot, I've seen this kind of thing in other reply sections of other RUclipsrs in other communities before, it might've been back in 2021 when I did, but I know that they're just bots trying to get on ur nerves. Just ignore it
It’s mind blowing to me how people are so clueless and ruin things more and more. Discord just ignoring how we hate this change and just permanently ignore. I can’t stand how game devs ignore us not to mention discord aswell. I only ever joined discord years ago due to everyone pressuring me when I only wanted to stay on teamspeak. Well wonder now if we will ever have another change like how Skype used to be used a ton, curse, teamspeak etc
When you look at # and four numbers after the nickname, it was immediately clear where this tag came from. You know it's a Discord username. Now, you have to guess.
how does this change anything
They should add display names and also allow you to use letters in a tag and make them longer, sorta like the way Valorant handles tags. It would also make adding people easier because you would be remembering letters and not numbers
yeah riots system is nice, they even allow tags shorter (and I think longer) than the default length too. And they even allow you to choose your tag WITHOUT PAYING
This is literally just a username but you added a hashtag in the middle
@@scystep it's not, the tag is mandatory and separate from the username. You also get a display name. plus hashtags aren't something you can normally put in a username anywhere since they only allow letters and numbers and underscores and sometimes maybe dots.
That's what they're planning to do
@@crowbr33ze no.. They're fully removing the discriminator (the tag) which is the whole problem people have with all this
Discord try not to make an update only for nitro users challenge (IMPOSSIBLE)
We are slowly but surely entering Discord's dark age
dont you love it when everything prioritizes money over people
Imagine saying a short number is complicated. This feels like the contact name instead of the phone number.
It's not that it's complicated, the issue is that it's different from most platforms, which made it confusing.
Many people, when asked for their username, would simply give the name, without the discriminator. By forcing users to have unique handles, this forces people to pay attention to the whole username.
@Jason That is a user error problem. This is an unneeded quality of life change that makes the use of usernames objectively worse. If the number size was such a problem, they could just add more numbers or make it alphanumeric instead. Now, they are forcing at a minimum according to their own post, 1/3 of active users to potentially lose their current usernames? They also enabled discord Nitro users from before March to get earlier access to lock down a username? PayToWin? There is zero reason for this with the excuses they have put forth in the discord news post.
@@youdontneedmyrealname How do you solve that user error problem?
Also, it's not really pay to win, since it's too late to buy nitro. They just gave existing nitro users priority to compensate for losing custom discriminators.
tbh the new twitter esque username change makes me (as a small wannabe artist) more worried about possible impersonation in the future than the discriminator system did. like, right now, im chilling w my tag not related to my social media accounts at all, happy with privacy since it doesnt make me feel i have much reason to worry, but when the change rolls out im going to have to worry about whether i should keep my privacy and potentially let someone take my main identity, or take my social media accounts names as my username and be willing to potentially deal w randos friending me. i have to keep in mind what might happen if what i make starts to get attention.
and i dont want to have to turn off / limit friend reqs -- i dont want to have to turn them back on every time i wanna friend someone i know. also, what about people who might not want people they have friended on discord to find their social medias, but dont want their username stolen? its going to just encourage username hoarding....
a fun change to the #number might be to make it 6 characters long and allow letters... imagine how fun it would be to open up a hex color code thing to see what color your discriminator is! and you could limit the name next to it to just lowercase latin characters + spaces and basic punctuation or something
man even with this update i have all these problems 😭it will make it a lot worse for me plus my current username is pretty common so someone will be getting random friend requests constantly when the change happens. Or someone will pretend to be me and sell my stuff for a quick dollar.
One idea is to have a different account using your artist name to occupy it with, and then you have a separate private account
You should create an alt to interract with friends and create a business account with your regular username
I can’t believe how much of a non issue they’re making people hate them for
Remove custom characters in names + add display names or make the discriminator 5 digits long / alphanumeric. It's a simple change but it effectively solves the issue of "its hard to add people" while allowing people to have whatever username they want.
I think something people are forgetting is that discord HAS a tutorial system that they could just utilize better for this issue instead of completely changing the system.
A display name and a friend code is like literally all they need
Even steam understood the assignment
If EA owned discord:
Edit: the replies ☠
@alexthemovie2915 r/youngpeopleyoutube
That’s exactly how I described Discord right now, they’re the EA of chatting apps… Except all of the things that were paywalled were all into one thing. Nitro.
Not only that, it kinda reminds me of Club Penguin Island where a lot of things were blocked off with a membership.
Yup
@@ExploitHistory bro it's it's like you're good tho, you literally have sub bot your vids get 2k views.
@alexthemovie2915 no its not grow up 3 year old
I cannot believe they refused a refund?! People payed for a feature and it doesn’t exist anymore. Should be able to refund bruh
smells like a lawsuit waiting to happen
You continued paying for it after the feature was removed. Seems like you didn't read the fine print - it's not uncommon, most people don't read the updated EULA's they agree to for things like software or social media after all. Anyone who funded discord was a sucker from the beginning.
@@project2957 a lawsuit?? No TONS of it, in my country they HAVE TO give a refund if the thing u pay for is not the thing ur getting ... also if u have ur acc banned for no apparent reason the company can face a lawsuit+give all the money u expent through out the years. (Im sorry if my english is broke not my first language )
I thank declining a refund is illegal I believe and I think discord is doing something illegal if that is true
If I’m PAYING to use a feature, and I’m expecting to get that feature given that is how it is advertised, and that feature is then taken away, a refund should be in place. I believe there is some form of illegality to them declining refunds to users.
i feel like companies and their "conveniency " is literally just trying to make people mad because not one person that i've spoken to abt this agrees with it at all. also it bothers me that one of their points are "we talked to people and 40% percent didn't know what a discriminator is!" maybe because everyone (including discord THEMSELVES) don't call it that but instead call it a tag?? what is going on LMFAO
What's sad is that even if they'd listen to us and still implement Display Names, which are a great feature by themselves, Discord would definitely make it monetized in some way
For example, maybe you could only change it a certain amount of times a month, unless you have Nitro of course, then it'd be unlimited
don’t give them ideas
@LeafBoi actually I think they're progressively taking 3 steps backwards every time they do something positive, which is rare
I consider removing the discriminators at least 2 steps back, and there are plenty of reasons which you probably already heard most of
I'll complain that you wrote millibit (mb) instead of megabyte (MB), since this comment section is about complaining about stuff. I don't disagree with several points though.
Discord always makes the best updates!!!! Can’t wait for them to make a update that you need nitro to make a group chat, severs, and even make a call!!!
no!
Yeah! That goofy username sytem is gone, and no one with nitro will buy it
Why are you so angry? It's literally free software. What does it hurt you that they make features pay to use? Don't they deserve salaries for their work? Or would you like to work for free as well?
Dude i swear thats something they would do
@@Hoggins They deserve zero dollars tbh, they make a killing selling snooped & collected data. Why do they need more?
What do you think they plan on doing with their Clyde AI model in two years? Letting it remain a useless novelty or selling the model off to a start-up for millions of dollars?
I've had my account since 2016, but I had to cancel my nitro a couple months ago. This whole system is stupid, and now because of the pay-to-win, my username will definitely be gone :(
If discord would want disciminators to be "simpler" why don't they just make them be hex color codes instead and give people a color picker to choose a color that would be the discriminator heck they'll even have ways of making money off of that idea aswell and have everyone be happy. In servers it wouldn't take priority over the role color just some more of a colorful flair for the friendslist and for accessability it could have the same slider like role colors
That’s actually a cool idea
There are several issues with that.
- You can't have a lot of distinct colors (maybe 10)
- People will ignore the color even more than the discriminator
- Colorblind people exist
I mean yeah it is not really that well thought out i may admit but i think it would still be better then whatever the username stuff is going be since it can be used like a discriminator though ig it would kinda be still an odd thing for colorblind people without a proper way to make it accessible though, the distinct colors well it would just show the hexcode like USERNAME#FF0000 which would be a red color code and #FF3200 being the exact same it would only i guess work like an extension to the already existing discriminators since it would alteast solve that problem discord is orginally solving with upping the numbers of Mikes and Janes from 9.999 to 256³ atleast
I love how discord only fixes issues they wanna fix and nothing we actually want
What else do you expect from a team of furries who ignore the pedo problem on their service?
@@Clip_It1 hes saying they dont care. aslong as they make money, and yes there is a horible pedo problem on discord. and the worst part about it is you can find it anywhere
@@X1hz damn I didn't know what that Obama guy said because of all the stuff at the end of his username
They didn’t fix it lol. They had the dicussion with the stakes, said ‘how do we make it easier to add people, the NUMBER ONE problem on Discord. Not our asinine moderation or anything like that. Adding people’ and then “We might aswell just copy Twitter and remove the discriminator, that’ll probably work”
@@emily1 well atleast some good things have happened on discord, like the auto mod feature and other stuff
Only discord could manage to make something like a username p2w
can't wait until discord starts charging 0.15$ per minute of calling
Discord is evolving, only backwards into the payphone era.
I can't wait for them to start charging people to call others, creating servers, and sending messages.
If they do that, id rather use regular text and phone calling
@@linnymiddy same
You can always switch to Guilded
This also is a problem for people who use Discord from other countries. From what I've seen, Hangul, Kanji, Greek, Russian, (many other languages). Can't even add in what Discord probably sees them as, "Symbols." From what I've read, it's ENGLISH letters only. No Korean, Chinese, Japanese, and probably even other non "English" letters. This is going to be a problem for people who don't know English well enough to just translate over what they want their username to be set as. I'm fortunate enough to know English fluently, but this will be a problem for my friends who aren't as fluent as I am. Even with me knowing English enough, I can't help everyone.
Yeah I expect to see a lot of random keyboard smashes in users of non-English speaking countries, like ksadjalks123 or just 123eask12903. It's so common because this practice is done by many other companies.
Can't wait for NTTS video in a few months about people getting scammed for their OG usernames. Providing they haven't been sniped by bots
Yeah like adding a 5th number in the discriminator would be that hard
the "running out of discriminators" is just filler reasoning, not the main reason they did the change
@alexthemovie2915shut up
if that was truly their motivation it wouldnt be that hard, but it would ultimately just be kicking the problem down the road and you'd have ot do it again eventually.
using base58. i did math in comment on previous ntts video and the number of people having the same username is HUGE.
That may cause issues if certain bot libraries assume discriminators can fit into int16, which is wrong btw (they are strings constrained to four consecutive digits for now, their own client treats them as such, and bots should also treat it as such)
If something corpo made is good, always expect it to go downhill.
Nothing last forever, not even the good.
The discriminator literally is discord’s entire catch
5:34 yeah, that is definitely a valid point. Adding extra numbers would work to a certain point (5 isn’t that many, for example) but they could easily keep the same length. However, adding in letters at length 4 would mean they’ve have the option of 456,976 Mikes (assuming I just did my math right) vs just a measly 99,999.
with a base 36 system (letters and numbers) with just 4 characters you can have 1679615 mikes
honestly in practice those new handles just result in users to have to make their own discriminators optionally which is I guess not that bad but it's super hecking ugly to have them be part of the username itself rather than name + id
@alexthemovie2915here we witness the child who has discovered both copy and paste as well as caps lock
@Alex: The Movie And here,we see the troll in its natural habitat,attempting to fool innocent denizens of the internet so as to obtain attention
@@BlackLivesMatter1414 look at almost all the other comments reply section
@@drift7rs its a bot 🤦♂
I think that's the point. The difference between CoolUsername#1234 and @CoolUsername1234 is that you are going to pay much more attention to the discriminator.
With the current system, a lot of people just ignore the discriminator, leading to issues where up to 10k people can appear to have the same username.
The current username system is great, they just need to add display names throughout discord.
The discriminator system is what makes Discord unique, because multiple people are allowed to have the same name, and more popular people like RUclipsrs are easily able to verify their account with their discriminator. Changing everything to handles makes it hard to verify that people are really who they say they are, because the username rollout lets anyone get any name.
in the video the guy literally explained how you cannot trust people are who they say they are with the current system too
I've been watching these Discord vids for a while and I really like your deep-dive and analysis of most of Discords' controversial nonsense as of late. I've been on Discord since the start of 2016 and been subbed to Nitro since it launched (late-Q1 2017), and frankly this recent username change is just Discords' awfful attempt to copy Twitter. You're correct that its all about what the Silicon Valley investors who keep Discord afloat want, and they just want to see Discord "growing" with pointless changes like Clyde AI and username rewrites.
TBH, the new username feature is frankly stupid. There is literally no reason for it. Either Discord could just increase the number of digits in discriminators to allow more usernames, allow letters in discriminators or even implement friend invites. This latter one (invites) would have removed any concern people had over what a discriminator was (hilariously, Discord refers to them as "Discord Tags" in the client, so of course, no one is gonna know what a "discriminator" is because thats just the internal name Discord uses) and made it easier for people to add each other as friends on the platform.
The only thing they should add from this "update" is the global nickname feature. But the rest of it should be scrapped, because there is no problem with usernames, other than problems Discord concocted on its blog post, rather than just minor updates like increasing the number of digits in discriminators which no one would have likely noticed or cared about.
They should've taken a page out of Riot Game's book with the Riot IDs. You can change your discriminator to any 6 letters or numbers which lets you use the same account across all their games, even letting the same Riot account have different gamertags in their different games. Although of course if discord did this it would be locked behind a big ol paywall.
Even BETTER YET, can't this change just be OPTIONAL? Or do it just for the new accounts?
I get uniformity, but I genuinely do not want to change my god given tag with the easiest to remember numbers of all time that I was so happy about for years and actually remembered with super ease.
The discrimator makes your discord profile unique in my opinion, you see it and you will know its a discord account, i get that it needs to be user friendly but its so unoriginal
8:08 that's what Im sayin!!!
10:20 oh wait that's me!!!!
LMAO
@@WeegeepieYT Hey, strange running into you here... Huge fan, please keep it up!
@@tgtme ty!!
@not anymore the new article book to&e& dang…
This is really frustrating, a name and a few numbers is actually much easier to remember over time 😅 also I enjoyed just having tea as my name
I have an old account so thought about trying to get a rare username, but hearing about the underground account market, I'll probably just get a normal username to avoid getting bothered. In the end it really doesn't matter at all what your username is as basically no one is ever going to see it
discord try not to ruin their platform challenge
That would be too difficult, we need to give them something easier
@@kebabit707 Ah, nice and easy now! They already won then!
Can’t wait for dark mode to be the new nitro perk
"we made it so instead of 10k people getting to use the name mike, now only 1 person can"
Like I commented on the previous video, I do *NOT* want Discord to change the names to @username.
Because I'll be honest... the discriminator helps for multiple people that uses the same username.
But if they changed it to the @username, it will be a TERRIBLE IDEA.
PLUS, the people that had purchased NITRO to choose their own discriminator will be like a waste of money because they will removing that!
Just keep the usernames as what it is! :|
im gonna be honest i grew quite attatched to my son #0304 i don't want him to die because the discord owners only focus on the MONAYY🤑🤑🤑
yeah cause now instead of it being like name#1234 it would be @name123456789 because everything else is taken
cant wait to spend way to long adding random ass numbers and letter to my user because some dipshit made and ditched an account in the early days
you could make the username similar to discriminator
for example:
your name is username#3434 and with this new update you can change your name to @username3434 simple as that
@alexthemovie2915 r/youngpeopleyoutube
they literally could have just added friend codes like on Steam...
Discord is turning to EA, eventually they will ask you to pay 69.99$ for DLC to use voice chat
DUDE YOUR FUCKING EVERYWHERE
You comment waay too much
...
Or there are multiple of you, who knows
bet its gonna be 69.99$ its probably gonna be 99.99$
Don't give them ideas
a vc time limit sounds like something realistic
In my opinion case sensitivity (and to a lesser degree non-Latin characters) is in fact the biggest issue with the current system and you could fix that only partially by making the discriminator larger. You can't cleanly fold all existing usernames into lowercase Latin; who of Mike, mike, MiKE and マイク should give up their #1 or gets dibs on the five-digit one?
RUclips's system is clearly working just fine. They did the exact same thing.
@@vincere_ because youtube never had a system like this, beforehand your channel name was something like UCQ5lrgs4iqMxl3bUzjovtFw or your google account name
Agreed. I feel like so many people are complaining without even bringing this up when it was clearly mentioned inside the article.
just write it down to a piece of paper headass
@@vincere_ RUclips has always used channel ids so this is very different
Lets just flood their reddit with how everyone is displeased about this new twitter handle update
I like that suggestion of adding letters to the discriminator. Still short and easy to remember, but also adds a huge amoumt of combinations
one thing i dont see people mentioning is how easy this will make impersonation be. Anyone could now fully impersonate me by having my actual username as their name and go around harassing people and using my name and not only that people will be able to get stalked easily even if they can change names because of how you cant change it frequently
Except now you will have a completely unique username that no one else can have as your actual user name.
Right now someone can impersonate you A LOT better because if you ever change your discord handle someone can take that exact one. The old system is fucking horrid for how easy it is to impersonate people because you can have 2 seperate people on 2 seperate weeks be the exact same username.
Lets not forget the fact that people can steal your username out of spite of you.
discord really rapidly became everything we were happy that it wasn't
just delete usernames at this point
yes lol
Why stop there. The easiest service is a service that doesn't exist. Just remove everything from discord then using all features of discord is as easy as breathing
@@xelspethdiscord nitro: 20$ a month to get the features back
Lost Ark, which is an MMORPG has an issue that comes with unique names. Once a person takes a name nobody else can use it unless the character slot is deleted. People use programs to quickly take any "normal" names, forcing you to be either be really creative, smash your keyboard or pay them to get the name.
Bruh that video suggestion at 11:05 lol...
EDIT: As mentioned in the replies, this might get the account banned
For those not getting Nitro refunded, try making a chargeback via your payment process for not fulfilling service. If it goes through, it might even cost more on Discord's end
that'll likely cause your account just getting automatically banned without ability to get it back, nothing more, they have systems in place for that
Yeah seen it in other games they either ban you or essentially hold your account ransom until you pay what you charge backed
@alexthemovie2915you are a kid. No one thinks this update is good because it isn't
Yeah don't do this, you will automatically get your account locked
@Alex: The Movie bro, if you want attention ask your parents.
I also want to add in my two cents on this feature. I'm not sure if this has been discussed, but what about a potential filter on our usernames? Surely to appeal to investors, they don't want any explicit content in someone's username. I guarantee one of the first people to get this change is going to change their name to something like @weedsexhaver69. But the issue is... How much do we trust Discord's filter? Will they be too lax and allow people with inappropriate usernames to go unchecked? Will we be allowed to cuss in our usernames? What about usernames with slurs or derogatory terms-- Will they be checked? Or will they be too strict with their censoring? Will the trigger end up banning usernames like @amethyst because it has meth in it? Will any "funny numbers" count as inappropriate? Is it possible that accounts with an "inappropriate" username will only be allowed to add friends that are 18+ in the system, therefore blocking them from adding friends who are minors or falsely set their age (kind of like how Tumblr or Twitter has it)?
I'm assuming if it's anything like they've done in the past, the usernames are going to be entirely unchecked. If I had to bet money, they're going to not put a filter on usernames, but then as soon as something offensive pops up in them and gets them flagged as 18+ on the App Store or Cheryl threatens a lawsuit because she caught Little Timmy talking to @gorillapussy, they're going to scramble to make a poorly-made filter that ends up banning a ton of people and/or causing a lot of frustration that they won't address. Your alleged fight against pedophilia on your platform is not going to look good if you have people with the handle @itouchkids running around, Discord.
they can literally just solve the issue with "simplicity" by adding more hints/tutorials on how/what the profile changes will do.
I hate that they're "fixing" this problem by... making it *worse*, they're making usernames case-sensitive. Shits going to get out of hand.
Edit: kill your nitro sub anyway. They'll flinch first, just like with NFTs.
i swear when adding someone now on discord it already is case sensitive
usernames already were case sensitive before