The science behind this is to minimallize turbo lag by blipping throttle aggressively throughout the corner, thus letting this be in a higher spool and better and more consistent spools. According Ayrton, it's also a way of finding the grip and when to get on the throttle. In a nutshell, Senna was literally a human anti-lag and traction control system. This was still present even though the Turbo's were banned in 1989. Edit: This comment is old and outdated
@@HandicapRacer It's basically throwing the concept of slip angle out of the window since you're also constantly going from understeer to oversteer then back to understeer to oversteer until you've exited the corner. He also did that in an FF car before which is really helpful since you're combating the understeer an FF car offers.
Looks about right. Senna brakes light and early and jabs the throttle around the corner before the apex. Normally, drivers trail brake all the way to the apex and floor the throttle at the apex.
It accommodates two things, turbo lag and understeer. By repeatedly jabbing the throttle, the sudden weight shift helps maintain speed whilst getting the front tyres to stick to the track. It works great in rally as long, fast corners usually have points of understeer, and throttle jabbing helps stick to the center whilst not losing any speed.
Great video! I've noticed a lot of the best NASCAR drivers do this a lot. I think because those cars lose front grip so quickly stabbing the throttle like that helps bring the rear end on those things around.
Doesn't really make sense to do it in a modern car. It was really just meant to keep the turbo spooled. Back when he did it there wasn't any torque to worry about without the turbo.
Very cool, but in a turbo that spools up this quickly (like the one in the car you're using) the effect of blipping the throttle it pretty much negligible... Senna used to do this because the F1 cars at the time had MASSIVE turbos, that by themselves were adding 300bhp to the engine. Turbos this big, usually take very long to spool up, with an obscene amount of lag, back in that time, that technique was really useful, because Senna basically eliminated this lag, that F1 turbo cars had at the time. Very cool video though!
I'm sorry but you're wrong because he did this and naturally aspirated cars and turbo cars this is to keep finding the limit of the steering grip most people will just let off the throttle and coast through the corner unknowingly that they have a lot more front-end grip which can allow them to go faster through corners if they do this technique. And that's exactly what he's doing blipping the throttle but not fast he's flipping it just enough to feel if the car is about to understeer and then he lifts off again.
@HandicapRacer The main focus of the technique is to keep the turbo spinning (idk if you ever drove one of those things, but the turbos literally take up to a sec to spool up, depending on the corner). But yes, taking the car to the limit of it's front-end grip IS PART of the technique, not the entirety of it
@jsstt he did it in N/A cars too.... Because the whole point is to create slip angle vs understeer.... But clearly turbo spoiling seems to be your reasoning... Even though it's wrong... He did it in the EF CIVIC and NSX at Honda's test days.... No turbos on those...
@HandicapRacer as I said, creading slip is definitely part of the technique, but definitely not the point. But aye, more power to what you believe, I guess 🤔
Yeah but it doesn’t work anymore. Do you see any other f1 drivers use this technique, or any other professional race car driver, no. It’s not necessary for turbo lag anymore and with how soft modern tyres are it’s just not worth doing. It’s better to let the car transfer the weight and roll it through the corner. You also said senna used it in karting but watch any pro kart races and it’s never used, because it just disrupts the weight balance and creates under steer. Cool technique but not viable in most modern cars.
This was a DEMONSTRATION 😂🙄 Get over it. It's how he drove during certain times and yes it's practical under certain circumstances, LIKE FIGURING OUT THE COURSE for the first time. Once you've learnt each corners specific speed relative to the car you're in this technique is used so slightly that you can't even hear it from outside. Its very obvious when you're first finding the corners grip ratio... But this class is beyond your tuition fee.
@ just stating my opinion don’t get mad. I never even said anything bad lol. Don’t be so narrow minded and shut everyone else’s experiences or opinions. 😄😂
The comments on this about anti lag and all this shit are so dumb. It’s literally just driving on the edge of grip…. Too much throttle and you oversteer. No throttle and you’re not as fast as aryton was. It’s pretty simple and straightforward
It doesn’t work….reason being is because he was the only person that did make it work. Nevertheless, the technique would not have worked post the turbo era. The car you are driving doesn’t have the huge lag that required stabbing of the throttle, all it did was upset the balance of the car mid corner
It does intentionally to find the limit of grip in that particular corner, vs gradually increasing throttle and understeering off before u can correct. This helps u find the absolute top speed for the corner given whatever aerodynamics you have .
Once you've found the top speed for that corner, next time around you already know that max speed u can be at before corner entry. So this technique is only used to find your corner speed during practice
@@HandicapRacer Thanks for taking the effort to explain. I enjoy this kind of discussion, it helps me to improve. So, can I assume that Ayrton himself only did this throttle blipping during practice sessions?
Tell that to every driver who does this. I exaggerated it to SHOW the theory and process. Just because you can't drive doesn't mean it's a useless technique.
The science behind this is to minimallize turbo lag by blipping throttle aggressively throughout the corner, thus letting this be in a higher spool and better and more consistent spools. According Ayrton, it's also a way of finding the grip and when to get on the throttle. In a nutshell, Senna was literally a human anti-lag and traction control system. This was still present even though the Turbo's were banned in 1989.
Edit: This comment is old and outdated
You got it. Why waste grip.
@@HandicapRacer It's basically throwing the concept of slip angle out of the window since you're also constantly going from understeer to oversteer then back to understeer to oversteer until you've exited the corner. He also did that in an FF car before which is really helpful since you're combating the understeer an FF car offers.
Correct again. Grip is grip, even if for a second, what coast through a corner and waste time.
@@gdmya It is still slip angle
You'd be fighting the Lift-off Oversteer in a rear heavy car.
Ah, yes, the WASD user technique
After I googled it, I actually lol'd. Very similar if you think about it🤣🫣
EYYYY KEYBOARD PLAYERR ON AC 2015 HEREEE
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Lmao real as someone who used to play on keyboard this is real
@@THEPHANTOM7 let pepole play how they want
Ayrton Senna was a keyboard player and we didn't know it
Senna's technique in a McLaren makes everything better
I normally accidentally did this and noticed it's become habit to stop from losing the rear of the car
Looks about right. Senna brakes light and early and jabs the throttle around the corner before the apex. Normally, drivers trail brake all the way to the apex and floor the throttle at the apex.
It accommodates two things, turbo lag and understeer. By repeatedly jabbing the throttle, the sudden weight shift helps maintain speed whilst getting the front tyres to stick to the track. It works great in rally as long, fast corners usually have points of understeer, and throttle jabbing helps stick to the center whilst not losing any speed.
Senna did this back in his karting days and continued with it in his career as it minimised weight transfer and maximised grip in corners
you can actually see the understeer from your throttle input. modern cars don't require stuff like this as they have pretty strong front ends
Understeer happens when it pushes, it's a part of the technique, find the limit then back off, repeat.
Great video! I've noticed a lot of the best NASCAR drivers do this a lot. I think because those cars lose front grip so quickly stabbing the throttle like that helps bring the rear end on those things around.
Adam Brouillard explains why Senna does this in on article on the Paradigm Shift Driver Development blog.
I think brother forgot he is in a GT car ahahahaha
I’ve gained positions using this technique
With antilag on strong😂
No antilag.... It's gtsport...
Bro drove like a bot 💀💀💀💀💀💀
I was racing like this in GT6 (my first GT game) and sometimes still use this
technique on hard to control cars like Pagani Huayra etc.
I recognize that track, i saw it on Hagerty's video
Doesn't really make sense to do it in a modern car. It was really just meant to keep the turbo spooled. Back when he did it there wasn't any torque to worry about without the turbo.
He did it before Formula 1 cars had turbos
@gonzalopereira8543 what race?
Bro is the embodiment of Antilag and TC
Very cool, but in a turbo that spools up this quickly (like the one in the car you're using) the effect of blipping the throttle it pretty much negligible... Senna used to do this because the F1 cars at the time had MASSIVE turbos, that by themselves were adding 300bhp to the engine. Turbos this big, usually take very long to spool up, with an obscene amount of lag, back in that time, that technique was really useful, because Senna basically eliminated this lag, that F1 turbo cars had at the time. Very cool video though!
I'm sorry but you're wrong because he did this and naturally aspirated cars and turbo cars this is to keep finding the limit of the steering grip most people will just let off the throttle and coast through the corner unknowingly that they have a lot more front-end grip which can allow them to go faster through corners if they do this technique. And that's exactly what he's doing blipping the throttle but not fast he's flipping it just enough to feel if the car is about to understeer and then he lifts off again.
@HandicapRacer The main focus of the technique is to keep the turbo spinning (idk if you ever drove one of those things, but the turbos literally take up to a sec to spool up, depending on the corner). But yes, taking the car to the limit of it's front-end grip IS PART of the technique, not the entirety of it
@jsstt he did it in N/A cars too.... Because the whole point is to create slip angle vs understeer.... But clearly turbo spoiling seems to be your reasoning... Even though it's wrong... He did it in the EF CIVIC and NSX at Honda's test days.... No turbos on those...
@HandicapRacer as I said, creading slip is definitely part of the technique, but definitely not the point. But aye, more power to what you believe, I guess 🤔
Bruh, I always do this everytime I play a racing game to turn faster.
When I was driving my steering wheel like that I burned the gas spring...
Using a Logitech G29
keyboard user rise
Yeah but it doesn’t work anymore. Do you see any other f1 drivers use this technique, or any other professional race car driver, no. It’s not necessary for turbo lag anymore and with how soft modern tyres are it’s just not worth doing. It’s better to let the car transfer the weight and roll it through the corner. You also said senna used it in karting but watch any pro kart races and it’s never used, because it just disrupts the weight balance and creates under steer. Cool technique but not viable in most modern cars.
This was a DEMONSTRATION 😂🙄 Get over it. It's how he drove during certain times and yes it's practical under certain circumstances, LIKE FIGURING OUT THE COURSE for the first time. Once you've learnt each corners specific speed relative to the car you're in this technique is used so slightly that you can't even hear it from outside. Its very obvious when you're first finding the corners grip ratio... But this class is beyond your tuition fee.
@ just stating my opinion don’t get mad. I never even said anything bad lol. Don’t be so narrow minded and shut everyone else’s experiences or opinions. 😄😂
Senna driving his race car with WASD keys? 😂
He was tapping ⬆️➡️⬆️➡️⬆️➡️⬆️➡️⬆️➡️⬆️➡️⬆️➡️⬆️➡️
Muito útil. Nice drive
What game is this?
Gran Turismo Sport
This was only partially beneficial
If it's a fast corner yea
If it's slow you'll just loose even more time
😂 wrong.. if it works in fast cars the principle is the same for small cars... Finding the limit and using it
I’ve been doing this for years. You kids are slow
i do this a lot with a controller on assetto corsa servers to keep grip lmao
The comments on this about anti lag and all this shit are so dumb. It’s literally just driving on the edge of grip…. Too much throttle and you oversteer. No throttle and you’re not as fast as aryton was. It’s pretty simple and straightforward
Go faster entry and think the push off’s as a decelerator, not like an accelerator like this video
Me playing on a keyboard
Digital throttle
It doesn’t work….reason being is because he was the only person that did make it work.
Nevertheless, the technique would not have worked post the turbo era.
The car you are driving doesn’t have the huge lag that required stabbing of the throttle, all it did was upset the balance of the car mid corner
don't you destabilise the car balance by blipping the throttle?
It does intentionally to find the limit of grip in that particular corner, vs gradually increasing throttle and understeering off before u can correct. This helps u find the absolute top speed for the corner given whatever aerodynamics you have .
Once you've found the top speed for that corner, next time around you already know that max speed u can be at before corner entry. So this technique is only used to find your corner speed during practice
@@HandicapRacer Thanks for taking the effort to explain. I enjoy this kind of discussion, it helps me to improve. So, can I assume that Ayrton himself only did this throttle blipping during practice sessions?
@jianh1989 he was known to do it well into his F1 career. For my above mentioned reasoning. Finding the max grip level gradually.
@@HandicapRacer yea i've come across videos of him blipping throttle mid corners before. Most well known one was probably at Parabolica.
Holy what game?
GT7
Gran Turismo Sport
This is Senna's technique? LoL that's like my normal play😅
El lo hacia en la vida real con riesgos y vos en una ps 😂😂
Is this circuit Big Willow?
Correct (i think if its another name for willow springs)
Yep ok thanks!
looks insanely slow
You re good driving! but this is not the way to do it
😂😂😂🤌
RSS?😊
? 🫣
Useless technique
Tell that to every driver who does this. I exaggerated it to SHOW the theory and process. Just because you can't drive doesn't mean it's a useless technique.
No….
The algorithm was so sweet to you but you’re not that guy you’re not that guy
LMAO, I'm definitely that guy, why are you upset? Because you're not?