How to create secret accounts with a passphrase?
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- Опубликовано: 20 дек 2022
- In this updated video Dan shows how to set up secret Ledger accounts in Ledger Live by using a passphrase.
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Dan.. you have saved my ass..! I desperate to recheck my hidden wallet coz I forgot the passphrased PIN. So I use your way in other ledger wallet with old recovery phrase + with old Passsphrase but with new attached PIN. It works....
Now I can re-access my old hidden wallet..
You have saved my whole live pension saving my friend...
Excellent video! Thank You
Thanks Dan... good knowledge to have
You're welcome - don't hesitate if you need anything!
Thanks for your sharing!
You're welcome!
so useful thanx
So the regular pin will allow it to combine the 24 words + passphrase = 25 words which is the secret account. Genius!
Hi Dan, is it possible to see in Live app or on Smartphone just one account? I mean just the secret one or the normal one. So its seperated. Thx
Great 😃
Thanks Alex 😄
How do i send from my first account to the second accound?????
hi, is it possible to have your normal portfolio backed by your seed, with 1 passphrase? To access everything, so therefore making it a 25 word seed phrase? Thankyou.
Its possible to restore this account in another wallet, like trezor or something else which has passphrase support?
Also, can you have multiple passphrases loaded onto your ledger secured using different pins? Or you can only have one passphrase account loaded onto the device at any one time, which means you can only have two different wallets (or sets of private keys) loaded into the device at one time (recovery-phrase wallet, recovery-phrase+passphrase wallet)?
You can have unlimited wallets, unlimited passphrases but only one secondary PIN which is connected with passphrase. PIN is just a shortcut to avoid need to enter passphrase. When you set up the third PIN the second PIN will be deleted - I tried. That means for example you can have 10 different passphrases but just one of them will be connected with secondary PIN.
When restoring passphrase account does can u enter the passphrase in any order or does it have to be the same as original instead of keep could i put in peek instead?
Question on this... Does this make it so we're only able to access our funds through Ledger? What if I need to restore my wallet to a non ledger device? Am I able to somehow add my created passphrase to my 24 word seed phrase to gain access to those funds, even outside of using Ledger?
Same things available in safepal hardware and software also
Hi Ledger, can you please tell me if it is possible to assign a PIN to a passphrase account that i've already made as a 'temporary passphrase'? or do I need to make a new passphrase account with a different passphrase? many thanks
No its not possible. You'll need to create a new account linked to temporary passphrase and then send funds to that account.
Hello support,
H bar on ledger plus S will not
transfer from ledger to exchange ..but it will receive from exchange..HashPack app works ok ,just ledger device from time to time it will not transfer from device to exchange…Please help with this problem ,thank
So, i messed up, did this months ago on a test wallet.. i know my 25th word but can't remember the PIN i set, can i reset and start again and create a new PIN? thanks
soory i'm new, i didnt understand how you transfert fund from standar account to passphrase account? from ledger to ledger its not possible because of physical signing?
If your ledgers are already active with accounts on them can you add passphrase with the account already active with the current 24 word passphrase
Hello and thank you for your very clear video on passphrases.
One question I have. It appears to me if there is one issue I see is that you have to keep a record of what accounts you created since the recovery of them does not automatically appear for that crypto account or that device seed.
What I mean is you have to create an ETH account to bring in your assets from the blockchain that you deleted in your video or that account will stay hidden. From that point of development that is very good to have.
You still own them but may forget those accounts since they do not autopopulate into your new nano device or Ledger app.
Is there any method you can recommend for wallets that have many crypto accounts, nft or crypto domain names in your wallets?
This can get very confusing in knowing what you have since you literally can have so many accounts in each wallet now.
This just happened to me as one crypto account was not showing up on a new device that I reseeded from an old device. Unless you create that account it does not come up automatically until you create that given crypto account.
This I can see needs improvement but not sure if it is even possible to program in or not. You do not want to see it if it is a secret wallet, but you do want to see it if you have alot of accounts and you have to recover one of them.
I hope you understand what I mean. Thanks again.
Hi, if migrating to a new ledger device, is the passphrase necessary?
if I access to passphrase account and add ethereum account(you can name it whatever you like). here is the question, can I add 2 different name of passphrass account or I can only add one ethereum account no matter what I name it , there is only one ethereum account?
I bought a ledger and started using it with a "regular" PIN for over a year now. Only yesterday I discovered this feature of the "passphrase/25 word". What should I do to put my current funds in several accounts (eth,btc,near,sol,etc) into a new PASSPHRASE PIN since they are linked to the regular one? The only way would be set a passphrase pin and transfer from the old regular pin accounts to the new accounts in the passphrase pin? downside is all the work and network fees etc.. please help and advice. thanks.
i think these hidden accounts are only for ledger live app. u will still have to use regular account to connect to hot wallets. Especially when ur staking to your cryptos.
When connected to Pin code does that mean that the passphrase or "25th word" is stored on the device?
Does this mean when use temporarily, the "25th word" is not stored on the device?
Yes that's correct - each method has its pros and cons but generally, attaching a passphrase to a PIN code is more convenient because using a passphrase temporarily will force you to retype the passphrase into the device for each session where you want to access your secret accounts.
Hope this answers your question!
How to transfer from the account without passphrase for the one with passphrase?
Hi!
If I lose my device and recover my account with my 24-words seed, can I just type in the secret pass phrase to access the secret account ?
Hi - yes! This article has more info about recovering passphrase-protected accounts: support.ledger.com/hc/en-us/articles/4983095135261-How-to-recover-your-passphrase-accounts-?support=true
Is it necessary to go offline every time we enter our Pin? Or is that just an old wives tale?
Hi Ledger, how can i send from my regular account my coins to my secret account
I need to know how to do it also
Could you guys do a video on how to swap tokens. I've read the instructions you guys sent, but I'm still having issues. I'm able to get all the way to the end of the exchange when it tells me to confirm transfer, and then right at the end, it says something went wrong. Try again.
Hello, could you let us know which swap provider are you using and what tokens are you trying to swap, so we can better assist?
@Ledger it was the exchange. I tried to swap USDC to BTC. I was able to go through every step, but the final step was to be. I verified the transaction and waited. An error message appeared, and it asked me to retry. I go through the steps again and get the same response.
I was able to swap USDC to ETH, but when I tried to do it a second time, later in the week, it did not work.
Hello, the issue with USDC has been resolved, could you let us know if this worked out! Also, what swap provider are you using
@@Ledger I will try later and let you know. Thank you
@Ledger Swap worked with BTC and ETH swaps but didn't work with other swaps. I tried several swaps; USDC/ETH, ETH/AAVE, and several other swaps, and it didn't work.
Dan, I set my pass phrase, thou when I open with my s+ passphrase pin, it displays my tokens present in regular acct...
What have I done wrong...??
(I haven't added asset accts or sent funds..... thou regular accts appear)..
Hey Glen - it's perfectly normal for the Ledger Live app to continue displaying your ''regular' accounts even when your Ledger device is unlocked with your passphrase PIN. Ledger Live will continue tracking all added accounts (secret and regular) until it is reset or you manually remove them.
I hope this answers your question!
What if we dont want secret accounts? Will the passphrase still work on the original accounts with the assets on them?
Hello, you don't necessarily need an additional passphrase. The passphrase, just adds a layer of security
That’s the original setup and it’s okay to leave it like that. But some people are concerned that someone will find their 24 word recovery phrase some day. So now you can protect the 24 recovery whit an password actually. Second thing is that under dearest you have plausible denying that you have not much crypto on your ledger when big money is kept in passphrase and accounts deleted in Ledger Live.
If I go to regular account , how do I access hidden account? Restart device entering passphrase pin?
Can I have multiple accounts of the same seed using different passphrases?
Thanks for the question - yes you can add as many passphrases as you want "on top of" a single recovery phrase, hope this answer your question!
If I wanted to use one ledger device with ten addresses, without having to enter the seed words and pass phrase, is this possible?
Of course, just create new addresses
What if smt happens to my Ledger device and I don't want to buy a new Ledger device but rather restore on a different cold wallet solution? Is Passphrase only useable in Ledger devices and are Passphrase accounts only recoverable with a Ledger device?
Hey there - the 24 passphrases are generated by a protocol called BIP39 (learn more here: www.ledger.com/academy/bip-39-the-low-key-guardian-of-your-crypto-freedom) and can be entered to any hardware wallet that supports the protocol.
No you can use any hardware wallet for passphrase recovery only find out the steps for the manufacture company.
Make a video on how would you recover your passphrase accounts say if you lost your ledger device or no longer have access too it.
How do i go about restoring my funds
This will explain everything: support.ledger.com/hc/en-us/articles/4404382560913-Restore-your-Ledger-accounts-with-your-recovery-phrase?support=true
@@Ledger i know about the recovery phrase, i am saying what if i have a passphrase and recovery phrase on a device and that device gets missing or broken.
Can i buy a new ledger device and enter the recovery + passphrase to access my passphrase accounts i had stored my funds on? Yes no?
Hi - yes, you can. This articles walks you through it: support.ledger.com/hc/en-us/articles/4983095135261?support=true
If I forgot to set my passphrase and attach it to pin, do I need to wipe and reset my ledger to set my passphrase?
I strongly suggest you send a message request to the above username for easy access of your funds or seed phrase to your wallet even ricochett can't detect his mod..
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Just curious... Is it possible to create a 'nested' passphrase account? I.e. In three layers: L1 recovery-phrase --> L2 passphrase --> L3 passphrase
you can create as many accounts with different passphrases as you'd like using the same seed
Please show how to re add the account after you have hidden it.
Lets say you lost the device and you set a passphrase, would you use the passphrase as the 25th word to access the hidden funds?
Great question Robert - we also have a video that covers how to restore passphrase accounts. This might help :)
ruclips.net/video/ApDe64H5WIw/видео.html
How many secret account can be created in one device?
I strongly suggest you send a message request to the above username for easy access of your funds or seed phrase to your wallet even ricochett can't detect his mod..
How can I import my new passphrase account to a new device?
I strongly suggest you send a message request to the above username for easy access of your funds or seed phrase to your wallet even ricochett can't detect his mod..
Perform a recovery from 24 words and setup passphrase after that whit use off your passphrase word or sentence
How do we find ledger device mac address?
Hey RK - could you clarify what you mean by mac address, your Ledger account addresses stay the same whether LedgerLive is installed on a PC or macOS computer.
Hope this helps!
If I lose my Ledger device, can I recover my secret account? How?
Great question - yes you can. The steps are:
1- Restore your 24-word recovery phrase in a new device
2- Go through the steps in the video but use the exact same passphrase
3- Unlock your device with your passphrase PIN
4- Re-add your secret accounts with your Ledger device
The recovery steps are also explained here:
ruclips.net/video/ApDe64H5WIw/видео.html
Hope this answers your question!
can you have a third secret account
how to check my passphrase if it's correct and matches the one i picked a while ago
Hi 👋 you can use Recovery check app to verify your seed phrase. Here are instructions that will guide you.
support.ledger.com/hc/en-us/articles/360007223753-Recovery-Check
Don't enter your 24 words anywhere other than your Ledger device.
@@Ledger i think you misunderstood my question, how can i check my passphrase(25thword) i picked. i wanna make sure it's correct
To do that you simply need to Set a Temporary Passphrase and verify one of your receiving addresses like BTC or ETC through Ledger Live.
IMPORTANT:
Make sure you're NOT setting an Attached Pin passphrase since it's permanent and will overwrite the previous passphrase. Basically you'll lose your wallet if you've forgotten the passphrase! Ledger CANNOT hold more than 1 permanent passphrase!
@@Ledger so basically if i picked "Attached Pin passphrase", i will overwrite my old passphrase and i will have a new passphrase, will the new attached Pin passphrase allow me to access my old secret accounts correct?
let me rephrase that so the new attached Pin passphrase allow me access to old secret accounts set with the previous passphrase?
apologizes if my question seems complicated
keep up the good work
Thanks in advance
hope you have a good one Dan
When you attach a PIN to the passphrase it will overwrite the previous one. You will need to restore your old passphrase to access the accounts linked to it. We hope this clarifies.
Appreciate the kind words. We will pass it along to him.
If you lost your Ledger and needed to retrieve your funds and you went to a hot wallet with your seed phrase, would it show the "secret" wallet/funds in that case? I presume so as the seed phrase is still the same it's just the extra PIN number is a Ledger functionality?
Its a pin and a passphrase. I'm curious how the recovery works as well.
In a hot wallet like Metamask you can only recover your funds with the 24 recovery phrase. The passphrase accounts are hidden in that case. To get access to your passphrase (25e word) you have to recover on a hardware wallet (Ledger) whit 24 recovery first and then follow the setup again for activate passphrase, but offcourse whit the previous made phrase for that “old” passphrase account. When correct combination you can at accounts and the funds are all back.
Hi I forgot my secondary passphrase pin
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dont use the swap option youre wallet will get wiped and you will lose all youre crypto!!!! ledger warn ppl about this ASAP! there is a breach and you guy are aware of this
Why what happened to you ?
hi ledger. we want turkish language voice. we can not clearly understand videos. thank you.
Thanks for the suggestion - we'll try to publish more content in Turkish in the future
If this helps, we have a Help Center that's already in Turkish 🙂
Thanks!
support.ledger.com/hc/tr/categories/4404369571601-Destek?support=true