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In the books during an argument at Kaer Morhen Triss mentions how she won't ever be able to wear a plunging neckline again due to the scars she sustained at sudden, I believe that all of the Kaer Morhen witchers were present for this. My interpretation was that Lambert rememberers that conversation from the book and also remembers Triss and Geralt's past relationship from Witcher 1/2 and was trying be a prick to get a reaction from Yennifer.... Because you know, Lambert, Lambert, what a prick.
and also that is the battle where Coral turns that Nilfgaardian soldier into a figurine. I believe Coral was one of the fallen in that battle? Triss was thought to be dead but turned out she wasn't. IRRC.
Sal Nice Limerick
Sal that’s what I also thought when I did the quest as a day before I started it I finished the Netflix The Witcher series so I thought for sure lambert was implying at those scars but that theory just fucked me big time
And in the books Triss hates Lambert and Lambert hates her too lol
Jávorszky Patrik In the game as well. In Witcher 1 there's a dialogue you can have with Lambert. Easy to miss though. after giving her the potion and sleeping with her, instead of going straight to the funeral, tell her there's some things you need to take care of then go find Lambert. Geralt asks why Lambert doesn't like Triss and he responds that she is too pretentious for his taste.
Triss was always my love option so she sleeping with Lambert got me sad, then I remembered my Geralt banged like 200 women while being in luv with Triss across the 3 games.
200 women who aren't friends of Yenn.
doesnt the second game say something about triss having some fun when geralt is not with her?
If it makes you feel any better, Geralt sleeps with Keira Metz who Lambert gets with in the end, so it's even
@@dakotajohnson5009 lol yes
@@angelaflying9591 yes it does haha, it's even
Geralt slept with Kera and now she is with lambert... problem solved.
This theory about Triss and Lambert is false anyways
@@sidiksurat1878 IDK, the way they act together is like a romance got bad, but still there are some feelings. Like Geralt and Yen sometimes.
Fair enough. 😂
@@sidiksurat1878 yeah i think its all speculation and also him having triss gwent card is not a prof to anything because if that is the case then krackh has slept with a Leshen.
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13:28 - it's a naked woman on a broomstick, typical depiction of a witch in european culture :)
It's actually her broom stuck up her arse. The people who drew it obviously hate her - as seen by the other drawing, depicting her hanging.
@@HummingbirdSound No, it's an old practice of witches. attested to in some obscure historical sources. Witches would connect with the their gods (the church called them demons) by harvesting toxic plants; now these plants cause halucination, but are also very poisonous, so you need to filter out the halucinogenic substances, so that you won't ingest the poison and die. One way of doing this, is by making it into an ointment using boarfat, putting the ointment on a broomstick, and rubbing it against the walls of the vagina; this acts a natural filter and only the halucinogenic substance will enter the bloodstream. This causes the women to get high and to halucinate; which is where we get the idea of witched "flying" on a broomstick. This is what the image shows.
@@robbiehoen Well, the more you know...
He knows. It was just there for getting few comments.
@@robbiehoen I dont even know what i would even type into google to even check if thats true haha .. but fair play if it is!
Are you sure its not up the ass? as that absorbs the good / fluids quite well but keeps out the bad toxins (I owe that knowledge & thanks to Bear Grylls) lol
-how's Yen?
-Fi...
-n e v e r m i n d
Ooffff
I love her
I can’t even be mad that she slept with Lambert cuz I literally cheat on her all the time. Everytime I pass by Crippled Kate’s, I spend at least $60
But one girl only costs $40 👀 either you’ve been ripped off or you’re a legend.
funny thing she didn't sleep with him, that's a bs theory
Coldhxll At crippled Kate’s they’re $20 each. I think you’re thinking of Passiflora or something that’s $40
@@sweetkhmerxtac last time i checked, there was no dollar currency in that world
After all the gameplay so far, im still hoping i can bang dandelion's friend that girl name Priscilla is hot and talented.
For number 1.
The point with the Gwent cards implies geralt slept with thaler at one point
Thaler is no Witcher ;)
Well, there is a theory out there that Thaler and Shani had a relationship going on for some time. So in that way Thaler might have gotten it while still upholding the gwent cards theory. Shani "got" Geralt through sleeping with him, which transferred over to Thaler (though there is no clear indication their relationship went past the initial stages of dating). Admittedly the timeline is messed up since the relationship was happening before Geralt came to Vizima in Witcher 1, though I believe Geralt had had way before Witcher 1 in the books, so it might still be alright if you include all that.
@@MrKrmel not really a theory, shani and thaler really WERE dating for some time. She was freaked out because thaler always had guards looking after him because, spoiler alert, he's actually a spy.
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And Zoltan
It's 2019 and Witcher 3 is, imo, still the best game ever created. The story, the atmosphere, graphics, gameplay, hundreds od quests, music and fucking GWENT are just some of the things that will never be forgotten. Thank you CD PR 🙏
Game of the generation for sure
I have to disagree.. the witcher 3 is the best game in the last 10 years.. it is the 2nd in the best games list.. but i still think that legacy of kain series is the best game ever.. the witcher series and many other games like god of war and assassin's creed had taken so many elements especially in the gameplay and many other things from legacy of kain series.. and it has an amaaaazing story.. so theatrical and dramatic, it is like it was written by Shakespeare himself..
@@helly7zanuff But I said generation. Don't get me wrong Legacy of Kain games are gold. Definitely belongs to a different generation tho.
@@helly7zanuff yeah but I'm not talking about the series, what I am saying is that The Witcher 3 and only The Witcher 3 is the best game ever IMO. I just can't think of a game that can compete with this masterpiece
@Dex4Sure Did you seen the Cyberpunk 2077 gameplay?
Triss' insecurity makes her feel so much more human to me, especially when her rival is so much more experienced and confident. And I think Geralt understands that, because he's always trying to put her at ease, and I love that they wrote options for that because it makes their relationship so sweet. I think the devs did such an amazing job at portraying her character; she's idealistic and wants to do good, but she also has a soft heart and tries to compensate by keeping up appearances.
Yeah. Originally, they wanted to go with a more political and, ya know, backstabby Triss from the books, but toned her down a bit, and now we have probably the cutest girl in all of games.
Yeah game Triss is my favorite, through all the games even when she's manipulating Geralt in the first one, and hiding what she knows about the lodge in the second. She's just as 'strong' as Yen but in a different way, and she clearly really loves Geralt even if he doesn't love her back, rather than treating him as a bit of a booty call like Yen.
yea but theoretically and the way the writer of the books made it, Yen is his choice, he likes danger unlike us who like the cute innocent girl
@@KpK1Cioby She's not all that innocent, she's more idealistic, just wants to save everyone. I kind wish Triss & Yen got to react to Ciri's choice to battle the White Frost at the end of W3, I feel like they would have interesting and distinct takes on it. Whereas Geralt is kind of Meh? Since he's spent his whole life trying to avoid bigger questions about the world.
I’m glad they changed her character from the first game, where she basically raped and manipulated Geralt
Regarding No.7, if Geralt completes the Skelige story line before confronting Menge with Triss and Geralt asks Triss can she revive him, Geralt will say something along the lines of "Yennefer was able to do it " to which Triss will reply that she isn't Yennefer. Thought it was cool that the devs added that in
That's so cool!
Pretty neat. But I'm surprised Geralt would ask such a thing given all the objections he raised to necromancy in Skellige.
@@brettmiddleton7949 Geralt's a hypocritical bastard sometimes...He's only a simple Witcher after all.
The (very overrated) books make it clear that Yennefer plays in a completely different league from Triss in terms of power. And Triss knows that. Yennefer is respected even by arch mages but she stays a out of the elite club and it's politics. At least openly.
Triss actually tells Geralt on a problem she can't solve to send for Yennefer. So it's pretty much lore.
@@5Andysalive Why do you think they're overrated? Haven't read them yet, but I was planning on it.
Triss is a redhead
Yen's got the unicorn
Both choices are VALID
well said
Very well said. I must admit, I've had a thing for red heads ever since having a very successful meeting with one on a high school band exchange. And unicorns and red heads are awesome reasons to pick a lover. But not to pick a life partner. I choose Triss, not because of her red hair, but because I think I would be happier with her over decades of living together.
If someone will create mod where can have both of them an then will be selling it for 1$, he can be millionaire
Her hairs weren't supposed to be this red though. Seems like ultimately it's reddish brown, but nothing can be said for certain since the author kept slightly changing the description each time in the books. Dyeing isn't the case as she loved her natural color
@@DFriendVideos I know this is nine months old. I respectfully disagree I will now civilly lay down my argument. One I've always disliked triss because she blatantly took advantage of Geralts amnesia. Two I've always preferred women that are strong willed and yen is the stronger of the two. And three I think yen would spice up the romance I'm the relationship over the years while triss would keep doing the same old thing. And four YEN GOT SNARK! allow me to end this with a simple reminder that you are allowed to have your own preferences and opinions hell you could ship Lambert and Geralt. Thank you.
I take Triss's seemingly "immaturity" as more of a MASSIVE insecurity, a more romantic/emotional personality type and a big weakness for the whole situation with Geralt and Yen, I don't think she ever had any doubt that once his memory came back, she would have no chance whatsoever at being with Geralt. And this forms situations such as:
1- In the "rat contract" scene, she probably hoped he hadn't even met up with Yen yet... and that Triss would've been the first he sought out rather than Yen?
2- Her more "romantic" side. Romantic people often seem more immature than for example Yen who is far more direct about what she wants. Like she says, she's too old to play the blushing bride.
3- Probably due to this side of her, Triss also is more open to sharing how she feels rather than stoically hiding it to maintain a more firm and dominate presence. She doesn't mind being vulnerable around Geralt.
4- Given this massive insecurity, it's almost like a fairy-tale type of thing if Geralt starts showing her love thru the story. It's like she's merrily surfing through clouds seeing Geralt pay HER attention when she believed she'd have no chance at all once his memory was restored and he found Yen again. Imagine being younger and your crush is crushing on you, basically xD
Lastly, 5 - She's actually way younger than Yen and this alone also counts to what level of maturity Triss has. Despite not meaning that she IS immature, just younger and more springy.. and a romantic.
I feel that this "how's yen? fi-- Nevermind. I got my answer" scene is more comparable to Yen finding red hair on that bed and tossing it out the window. Emotions running high.
What feels immature is for example back at Kaer Morhen before the battle when Yen is all over Geralt and Triss, scoffing/interrupting them when they're just trying to have a moment. But honestly both of them can get pretty jealous of the other and do stupid shit.
My main point here was just to not take those quirks of Triss' as simple basic immaturity. One of the things I love about her character is how realistic she feels in the sense that she is so damn insecure about everything. About her abilities as a mage, her abilities as a leader, her capability to do something meaningful like helping the mages flee, and of course about how much she means to Geralt, which of course is player-dependent.
She's just a more sensitive and emotional person.
I think she is absolutely sensitive, but not as emotional as Yen...
Your comment is testament o the fact that the writers wrote a master manipulator in Triss. She isn't emotional, she is like the psychopath gone woke, she understands and knows how to bend emotions to her avail.
And this is why I'm choosing Triss 🥰 she's more human, and a romantic.
@@meusana3681 not my problem. Can't deal with Yen's toxic bitch attitude.
@meusana3681 I think you might be projecting your own romantic experiences onto Triss. Whatever type of woman, or women, you've encountered in your life, I pray that I never meet them.
Regarding #8, what about being impaled by the broomstick but drew very poorly? After all it's supposed to be done by some angry townsfolk, not a painter.
hm... I don't know ;]
Maybe it's not hair but blood depicted.
@@xLetalis It's a broomstick for sure
Broomstick, a crashed witch, probably happened all the time.... ;) too much mead
@@cathyw8578 it's when you let your cat steer and (s)he sees a mouse on the ground.
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Train Wreck ay ay letalis is cool tho
I don't even notice.
Sorry but Triss leves the littel duck. When all the mage leves he is back at the bar
Exactly. No one gives a shit.
NOBODY NOTICES
This triss and yen fight is pointless, because, you know, bros before hoes.
After the main story ends which main character are you still able to talk? Oh, that's right, our boi Dandelion.
End of discussion.
well, if ciri dies then yeah dandelion
@@coolquip6296 Even if ciri lives Dandelion is the only main character you can interact with (in his cabaret), not counting with B&W dlc.
@@guilhermeb1561 Lambert & Eskel disappear from Kaer Morhen
I know, that's why I went gay for Dandelion
Coolquip and roach the horse
I absolutely love Triss. I try to replay the game and take the Yennefer romance route but I can never let Triss go at the docks scene! I love how Geralt is somewhat lighter and more jokey with Triss, it’s nice to see the Witcher has another side to him that Triss seems to bring out 😊
I feel the same. But this cannot happen, if you want to play based on books, because he needs to first remove the spell, which is bounding him and Yen.
PS: He like her a lot and that's why he don't want to lie to her.
But after he remove the spell, there is no way how to have a romance with Triss (If you go in standard consequences).
That's a one sad fact.
I absolutely love Triss too. But I haven't played the Witcher 2 and I haven't read enough of the books to see Triss in it. I hear that makes a big difference on who a fan favours.
@@DFriendVideos
Its depends if one can serparate the books from the game, in the game I liked Trish her personality better, and I also found her more attractive than Jennifer. The Trish in the game to me didnt felt like she was the same Trish from books, Im glad CD Projekt Red gave us the option who to choose so you could make the game your story.
@@minuterepeater2257 That is about what I expected. I have read the first one and one half books and I eventually plan to plow through the rest just because I want to find out what she is like in the books.
And I really, REALLY like how the personality of some of the characters would change depending on how you played them.
Triss is more of a girlfriend, whereas Yen is the wife.
Triss is exceedingly hot ,in case anyone missed that
ipeeontheworld yeah shame about who will be playing her in the TV show
No, she just looks awkward. And all the actors on the TV show are terrible choices.
Triss>Yen
Litterally....
Yen is canon
In Witcher 1, there's a wooden bathtub filled with water by the stairs in Triss' room. The footsteps actually lead from the bathtub to the window, so it's pretty safe to assume that Triss left them after she got out of the bath.
in lady vegelbud's party, i remember that geralt can meet general voorhis close to the gwent table :/
Too obvious imo, so I didn't include him
Dijkstra is there also I just noticed. Wearing a pig mask
Dijkstra is in the vid
@@xLetalis Yeah, reacted too early 😅
I've played through the game three times and I've never seen him at that party somehow, how tf did I miss him? :o
Triss in the books is a very naive young sorceress. She's seen as a sister to Ciri unlike Yennifer who is a mother figure. So her relationship with Geralt is very much like stop seeing me as a young girl and more of a woman. She's constantly trying to prove her worth to Geralt any way she can. Her hesitation is that she knows how Geralt feels about Yennifer and had been hurt before but she can't stop herself. Also it's mentioned in the books Witchers give sorceress' kind of sparks when they touch so that's why Geralt and the other Witchers find themselves tied up with sorceresses.
Have you even read the books? that is not at all the vibe I got in book one, Triss seems more like a mother to Ciri in the short time she spent with her than Yen and she does not sound "naive" at all.
I don't like the book triss but I like the game triss very much
Well I always tend towards triss because she doesn't treat Geralt like crap. The Yen/Geralt romance is cute from a storytelling perspective but from a real-world-perspective it's textbook abusive behaviour and very one-sided. I guess the problem is that Yen doesn't treat *anyone* like an equal, much less her boyfriend. She's.....kind of an asshole.
@TheHowlettJames Well she does while she’s in Kaer Morhen training Ciri, but Ciri is already well aware of Yen from Geralt, and already sees her as his woman. So if you go by a family dynamic, Ciri already considers Geralt the father, and Yen the mother as she is Geralt’s woman. Something she mentions right after Kaer Morhen when the travelling dwarves think Triss is his woman, and Ciri sets them straight.
@redshirt49 Then you don’t know her at all, or him.
They both treat the other like crap, because both had their personal issues that neither were willing/able to fix at the time. She was physically and emotionally abused by her parents, never had love, and then was trained as a sorceress which further stunted her emotional growth. So having love from Geralt, a home etc, she didn’t want to let it, and him, go. And he was abandoned and raised to be a killer, knew no love, had little to no social interaction, and had the ignorant common folk spout the unfeeling mutant nonsense. So having love, a home, having feelings and doubting said feelings, it scares him, so he ran from her. So they both treat the other bad at first. She was possessive, because of her scars. And he was unsettled, self loathing, and uncommitted because of his.
While Geralt runs off without a word, that’s treating her bad. And while he’s off ploughing countless women, she’s looking out for him indirectly. He’s the one thinking he can just jump into bed with her after leaving her for 4yrs. Imagine leaving someone for that long, and then when you see them again, have the audacity to think you can just bed them. Or him sleeping with her best friend and asking for said best friends help first. Not saying Yen is a saint, as she’s not, she had her moments too, I’m just pointing out Geralt isn’t innocent.
How does she not treat him like an equal? I’ve pointed out they were both equal in treating the other bad at times. They were both equal in thinking about the other when parted. Both equal in looking out for the other, albeit in different ways. Both equal in not wanting to impose on the other if they aren’t wanted. Both equal in risking it all for each other and/or Ciri. Yen can’t force him to do anything, and there’s been numerous examples of that.
After seeing Triss in Witcher 3, I was so disappointed how she looks in the Netflix adaption.
Not making Triss a Red head was a fucking crime. I'm still hoping they bring in another red headed sorcerous to be basicity Triss for future seasons.
Same, Netflix was *really* stupid to do that.
Lol a secret that the stories were able to keep away from us, about Triss, is the fact that she can race swap at any given moment in time.
@@Tyler-uc4ye Ah. So magic can't allow Geralt *or* Yennefer to ever have kids again, yet Triss can completely change her genetic make up at any moment at will? ScIenCe
@@Beregond1861 Geralt and Jennifer can have kids due to magic? What's that quest so I can make sure I can avoid that shit so I don't get brain hemorrhaging by the time I finish it.
I've never understood this 'Triss/Yen for life and DEATH to those who prefer Triss/Yen!' mentality. Most of us have played through the game more than once, and probably experienced both romances. I prefer Yen's arc personally, but Triss is adorable and I love her and it always breaks my heart whenever I break it off with her in Novigrad, and likewise with Yen in The Last Wish mission.
Then there's Shani, who's capable of stealing our hearts in just one expansion!
Shani is the only one for whom I'd endure Yen break-up scene. I'd mostly button-mash through it, though. ;-)
Redheads...
I always feel compelled to choose Yen. They have such a strong history together from the books.
@@skittles4375 I did both romances, but the first time around i could not resist the big tiddy redhead.
A RATIONAL human being exists in the RUclips comment section over the romancing and love/admiration of two (three*) beautiful women an inherently personal subjective notion...Praise Melitele's Grace for bestowing upon the world her gift of your very existence!
About number 8, I’m pretty sure it’s meant to be a witch pleasuring herself with a broom, which is where The whole Witches ride broomsticks thing comes from.
came here to say this, glad someone beat me to it. I thought it was kind of obvious. Whats with the head and hair comments and shotgun? lol you have an active imagination sir
One problem with Lambert and Triss sleeping with each other BEFORE Geralt was found is that at the time both weren't a couple so there would be no reason for Lambert to jump out a window in order to not hurt Geralt
Plot twist: Lambert slept with Yennefer. She does believe he looks better than Geralt, after all... ;)
It's worth reading the books -Triss mentiones her scars in the book - blood of elves - chapter 3 - when she's in Kaer Morhen to be a mentor for Ciri - and she mentiones the scars in the presence of Lambert, Vesimir, Coen and Geralt when talking about the battle of Sodden Hill. So that's why Lambert -in the game - knows about her scars, ...
Team triss?? Team Yenefer? Pfft!
I will die playing gwent before i make that decision.
You live up to your user name.
How both are only a 7 in the ingame Gwent is beyond me.
I think Trish’s behavior is explained by the fact we find her in a vulnerable state and also in the midst of a reckoning in her life. She and her friends are being hunted, and her lover has regained his memories and now knows he had a partner and daughter and Triss feels guilt and uncertainty about what that makes her to Geralt. It’s not impossible that Geralt or Yen would see her as untrustworthy. I think all of this explains Triss’s quite strange behavior and in my opinion seeing her emotions reflect all of these complicated things she is processing as she is trying to survive is quite fascinating.
I love Triss, not only do I think she is the most beautiful video game character ever created but I also love her personality.
she really is the most beautiful girl in video games
Regardless of how attractive or successful a person is, many people struggle with being their own biggest critic. That’s what I liked about how they wrote Triss, she seemed so human as a video game character, rather than your typical archetypal hero/heroine, even as a supporting hero/heroine, in a game.
Ok dad we wont fight in the comments
Says you...
FangeHaux
Fuck you, shani>anyone else
@@sonarbuge7958 now HOW DARE YOU
Sinister XV
You know I’m right 😤😤
@@sonarbuge7958 papa xletalis said we shouldn't fight, so I'll just ignore you.
You have to remember that the guys at CDPR are huge fans of The Witcher books and there are A LOT of references to them throughout all three of the games. The 'scars of Sodden' is a good example. At the battle of Sodden Hill Triss was., for all intents and purposes, killed. She mentions in the saga that, though she was healed through magic, she was severely scared by the event. Interestingly this is not reflected in the game however through her model design in any of the games though they are clearly aware of it. There is clearly a limit to fidelity since she should be too scarred to wear a low neckline and that has never been the case in the games.
As for Triss, Yennefer, and necromancy. (Back to the saga) Nenneke states that Yennefer is a good woman but has no scruples. There is no such statement about Triss so it is likely that Triss has decided that there are certain lines that shouldn't be crossed.
In the question of Triss' apparent insecurity, this makes perfect sense. In the story 'The Last Wish' it is mentioned that girls become sorceresses because they have no other acceptable path in society often due to some physical deformity. Yennefer, for example, was a hunchback. Though, through the use of magic, a sorceress has become beautiful the effect of growing up ugly and being treated differently doesn't go away.
13:38 looks like a witch who had a crash landing on a broom. At least I am sure it's more likely to be a broom rather than shotgun XD
Personally, I've always prefered Triss to Yen. That's not to say that I don't like Yen, I think she's awesome, and I can definitely see why people might prefer her, but Triss is just more my speed, I suppose.
I honestly don't get the whole mentality that there's a right/wrong romance choice in the game. People like who they like, and that's that. You're not wrong for liking one of them, the other, neither of them, or both of them (even if that does backfire on you in the end) and I hope people are happy with whichever option they went through with.
I've played through this game three times, and even when I'm determined to get through the Yen romance, I just can't help but go through with Triss's romance. It's just so... charming. For me, at least. Well, bias aside, this was a great video, and I look forward to combing through the others.
I think it really depends on your life experiences. Yen very much reminded me of my abusive ex so I had an extreme dislike for her from almost minute one, so I think it's person to person, but that's the best part about RPG's. You become the character and every person who plays it has a very personal experience with the game and even though we are all playing the same story, it still feels different to every person.
Well said. A friend gave me the PC GotY version of the game a couple of years ago but I've only just recently started playing it, and in poking around various sites I've been genuinely surprised by how vitriolic the exchanges between 'Team Triss' and 'Team Yennefer' tend to be, as if choosing one instead of the other is some type of great moral failing that indicates a flaw either in character or intelligence, or both. I personally prefer Triss as a romance option however that is by no means a judgement against Yennefer as a character. She's a great character and I certainly understand why some prefer her and/or consider her the 'only choice' because of the book canon (even though I've not read them myself), and I respect that.
And like @xcrstfallenstrx my choice was definitely influenced by my life experiences. Yen reminds me too much of my grandmother. Beautiful, elegant, and outwardly cold, she brooked no opposition to her decisions, opinions, or statements and drove my grandfather to an early grave. She had her moments, much as Yen does, when one could catch a glimpse of the real live human being underneath that steely façade but those moments are much too few and far between. But that is the beauty of the genre, and the strength of the storytelling in this game, that it can produce such visceral responses in those playing that influence our choices and therefore our game experience.
@@cristicat5820 I too was surprised by the rather intense internet war because I was also late to the game, so to speak. While I haven't read the books either, to my understanding Geralt actually never professes his love for Yen in the books prior to them being bound by the Djinn, hence why the Yen quest plays out how it does in the game, but books or no, the characters are very alive in this game and when we see something in them that takes us to a negative place (as Yen did for me personally) it's very hard to side with them. Just like people who've been cheated on may have a hard time siding with or romancing Triss, but there have been very few games that have ever managed such an emotional response.
I think the discussion has more to do with the way Geralt is than personal preference
First time i romanced Triss, but the next 50 i stuck with Yen
Personally I prefer women like Triss but Geralt and Yen have a lot more going on, from backstory and magic to ballads, and Triss is presented as an episode
But the choice is there for a reason, so there is no right or wrong, whatever you feel like, do it
We all know that once you play Hearts of Stone you really wish Geralt could declare his love for and plan to settle down with Shani! WHY CAN'T I TELL YOU THAT I AM THAT MAN YOU WANT ME TO BE SHANI!! Please don't leave for the front lines to the East. I've got a beautiful, newly renovated vineyard down south that come next year will be the best in all of Toussaint! I've even got a wonderful garden where we can grow rowan berries! Shaaaaaaaaniiiiiiiiiii!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I was SOOOO disappointed that the best you could do with Shani is a one night stand. There were things to like about all the LI's in Witcher, but there was just *something* about Shani that really drew me to her above all the others.
@@arklytte because Shani is the Best person in the entire game, like she has no flaws-never Did anything wrong and tries to help others.
Not to worry, there is a mod for that. A mod that retexturey Triss at the end and makes her look like Shani, just in case you want it. Model is a bit glitchy and clippy, but works
Regarding No. 9: I always just assumed Triss was in love with Geralt, so it was painful to see him seemingly reject her gift (fountain scene) or deny their love (scene with Djistrka). Male or female, powerful or not, love will make you act that way. I don't see that as a sign of immaturity, but natural human emotion.
Full disclosure: I always pick Triss - because I just really like their relationship (from Witcher 1, 2 and 3). But, I'm glad the game gives the player a choice: I'm pro-Triss, Yen, Shani, or random hooker - whatever people like! :)
''At the beginning of TW1, Salamandra steals the secrets of witcher mutations, secrets that are very valuable to them and something they would never want anyone to abuse for their own benefit. It is understandable it becomes their number one priority to recover them as soon as possible. To complete this task efficiently Geralt, Eskel and Lambert all head to different parts of the North to look for info about Salamandra. Geralt heads to Vizima, Triss also heads there, while Lambert sets for Kaedwen. My point is, not only is Lambert not there, but he would never delay or prolong his trip, risking witcher secrets just so he can have sex with Triss, who he never had a particularly good relationship with anyway. Some will say teleport, but it’s questionable how powerful teleports really are and whether that would even work on such distance. Not to mention Triss’ lack of motivation for doing such a thing, but I’ll get to that.
The footprints that can be seen in Triss’ house in Vizima and allegedly belong to Lambert are first visible when Geralt wakes up in Triss’ bed, after falling unconscious during his battle with Azar Javed and The Proffesor and getting teleported there by Triss. It’s not like Geralt barges unannounced through the door of Triss’ house and says hello. It is clear that he has been unconscious for some time, and even if we assume that Lambert was there, he would never have to sneak through the window, he could just casually walk out the front door, since there is no threat of Geralt catching him in the act, which Lambert’s story implies.
Another thing, Triss was busy teleporting Geralt, so she can’t really have sex with Lambert at the same time. Unless Triss and Lambert have a fetish for fucking next to Geralt’s unconscious body, it makes little sense. At best they could have caught Lambert masturbating alone in Triss’ house, forcing him to jump through the window in shame.
Lambert mentioning Triss’ scars is more to provoke Yen, which is implied by the camera showing her take a large sip after he mentions it. It is also in line with his personality, and Triss did spend a fair amount of time in Kaer Morhen and Lambert was even present when she told the story about her participation in The Sodden battle, so him knowing about her scars is nothing unusual. Triss at the time also worked on the amnesia angle with Geralt, trying to get him to fall for her. After years of obsessing with Geralt, why would she risked ruining her chance to finally be with him by sleeping with his close friend, and of all Lambert, who she never particularly cared about.''
This is from reddit and totally right. So its not possible in every way
Hmm, as about number 9, I think she actually killed him. I'm polish and in original line that Geralt says when he checks the body is "hmmm, still looking like alive". In polish this phrase is like idiom: it just means, that the body is looking so good, that it just look like still beeing alive, when in fact everybody knows it's not. I think that he's just appreciate the clean way she did it.
Thank you! Sometimes the english translation is pretty bad. Do you know that Ciri says in B&W that she drank a Witcher potion? I mean... that isn't even near the original. And she would died of it XD
Triss cheated on Geralt with Lambert
Personally, I don’t buy this theory at all, it does have some nice coincidences, but it just makes no sense to me.
-At the beginning of TW1, Salamandra steals the secrets of witcher mutations, secrets that are very valuable to them and something they would never want anyone to abuse for their own benefit. It is understandable it becomes their number one priority to recover them as soon as possible. To complete this task efficiently Geralt, Eskel and Lambert all head to different parts of the North to look for info about Salamandra. Geralt heads to Vizima, Triss also heads there, while Lambert sets for Kaedwen. My point is, not only is Lambert not there, but he would never delay or prolong his trip, risking witcher secrets just so he can have sex with Triss, who he never had a particularly good relationship with anyway. Some will say teleport, but it’s questionable how powerful teleports really are and whether that would even work on such distance. Not to mention Triss’ lack of motivation for doing such a thing, but I’ll get to that.
-The footprints that can be seen in Triss’ house in Vizima and allegedly belong to Lambert are first visible when Geralt wakes up in Triss’ bed, after falling unconscious during his battle with Azar Javed and The Proffesor and getting teleported there by Triss. It’s not like Geralt barges unannounced through the door of Triss’ house and says hello. It is clear that he has been unconscious for some time, and even if we assume that Lambert was there, he would never have to sneak through the window, he could just casually walk out the front door, since there is no threat of Geralt catching him in the act, which Lambert’s story implies.
-Another thing, Triss was busy teleporting Geralt, so she can’t really have sex with Lambert at the same time. Unless Triss and Lambert have a fetish for fucking next to Geralt’s unconscious body, it makes little sense. At best they could have caught Lambert masturbating alone in Triss’ house, forcing him to jump through the window in shame.
-Lambert mentioning Triss’ scars is more to provoke Yen, which is implied by the camera showing her take a large sip after he mentions it. It is also in line with his personality, and Triss did spend a fair amount of time in Kaer Morhen and Lambert was even present when she told the story about her participation in The Sodden battle, so him knowing about her scars is nothing unusual.
-Triss at the time also worked on the amnesia angle with Geralt, trying to get him to fall for her. After years of obsessing with Geralt, why would she risked ruining her chance to finally be with him by sleeping with his close friend, and of all Lambert, who she never particularly cared about.
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Very good points, I'm not sure what to believe honestly.
You mention in your first point that Lambert is very loyal to the protecting the last remaining Witchers. In Witcher 3, after your boat ride with him he goes on about how he hates being a Witcher due to his Dad if I'm not mistaken. So he might not care about Witcher's. He doesn't exactly spend his time being productive and doing jobs for Vesemir whilst he's gone to the mountains with Uma either, so he's not that desperate to assist them in that sense. He instead gets drunk, knowing that the Wild Hunt will be attacking within the near future. If he was that loyal he would work on defenses etc don't ya think? Eskel even said before they got drunk that they should work on the roof beams as Vesemir told them to.
Second point, I just find it really odd how they'd randomly put a set of footsteps there if this is not the case. Like, what would be the point in adding this detail?
I agree fully with the rest of what you say though.
there are some things that don't add up, I don't know what to believe either. whose footprints could those be then?
@@Oxygen97 Hard to tell why they bothered with the footprints. Maybe it might have been a part of some quest that was eventually cut from the game. This is just a quick possible explanation that comes to mind, but it seems more likely than that they put a clue into the game only to wonder if someone connects it with another clue they put into the third game 8 years later. They couldn't be sure at all that there will be a third game, so it's really a big stretch to think they would prepare easter eggs for it.
Maybe it's just an extra detail. When they had someone putting paintings on the walls, pelts on the ground, books on the window ledge, why not add some footprints leading from ... let's say the bathtub to ... let's say the books on the window ledge? Yes, the used footage is actually misleading, the whole trail is in fact much longer (for the record, I really don't suspect the author of this video to have any bad intention, he just used another author's footage). The whole footprints trail is visible only at certain camera angles. I address this in my recent comment to this video, so I'm copying it here:
A much longer trail of the footprints is visible in some other youtube videos:
ruclips.net/video/1L3vcAF8m5g/видео.html
(from Mr. Odd's Let's Play)
ruclips.net/video/JXml56u8yXU/видео.html
(from Gopher's Let's Play)
Also, ViciousFish posted some interesting observations on the forums:
- The footprints go from the bath to the window, nowhere else.
- The person either got out of the bath or stepped in the puddle around the bath, most likely the former.
- The foot prints are small, much smaller than Geralts foot.
- They are very close together. The person was walking very slowly. Not running or moving quickly. Like someone would walk knowing they have wet feet on a slippy floor, and they are in no rush. So I am pretty confident they were intended to have been made by Triss.
Source: forums.cdprojektred.com/index.php?threads/lamberts-secret-lover.55178/page-2#post-11490181
I’ve said the same thing numerous times. I’ll list the reasons I think it’s untrue.
1. Triss and Lambert dislike each other, have never had a nice conversation, or even an inkling of attraction for each other.
2. Lambert has more than one friend lol. More than just his Witcher buds.
3. The card theory is stupid, as you get Olgierd’s from Shani, Yen’s from inkeeper Stjepan, and Ciri’s from a Scoia’tael trader. Therefore it’s daft.
4. They were all in different countries. Vesemir in Kaer Morhen, Eskel in Redania, Lambert in Kaedwen, and Triss and Geralt in Vizima.
5. Why would he need to bolt out the window? He could of left once Triss left to scan for anomaly’s. Or after Geralt got back, as he was unconscious.
6. The footprints belong to Triss most likely, considering she’s in a nightdress, and probably had a shower because she was filthy after collecting unconscious Geralt from a swamp.
7. Triss is in love with Geralt, you can sleep with her or not in W1 prologue, but either way she gets upset about leaving you, and worries for your safety.
8. Lambert is well aware Geralt loves Yen, not Triss, and doesn’t know if you sleep with Triss or not in the W1 prologue. So why on earth would he say he didn’t want to hurt a friend, when to his knowledge Geralt doesn’t even love Triss, and only thinks of her as a friend. Or even less than that considering his amnesia and him not knowing her at all.
I doubt that Lambert slept with Triss.. In the books Triss hates Lambert because he always call her "Merigold" her last name, and triss hates it when he does it.. also Lambert knew about the scar of her chest because Triss burst it out when she was talking to Geralt in Kaer Morhen about the battle of soden hill. Lambert, Eskel, Cohen, CIri, and Vesimer hears it too... Triss never liked lambert she also once threatened lambert when he continues to call her Merigold
Sounds like a lot of flirting to me... ;)
I’ve never thought it was true, for reasons I’ll list.
1. Triss and Lambert dislike each other, have never had a nice conversation, or even an inkling of attraction for each other.
2. Lambert has more than one friend lol. More than just his Witcher buds.
3. The card theory is stupid, as you get Olgierd’s from Shani, Yen’s from inkeeper Stjepan, and Ciri’s from a Scoia’tael trader. Therefore it’s daft.
4. They were all in different countries. Vesemir in Kaer Morhen, Eskel in Redania, Lambert in Kaedwen, and Triss and Geralt in Vizima.
5. Why would he need to bolt out the window? He could of left once Triss left to scan for anomaly’s. Or after Geralt got back, as he was unconscious.
6. The footprints belong to Triss most likely, considering she’s in a nightdress, and probably had a shower because she was filthy after collecting unconscious Geralt from a swamp.
7. Triss is in love with Geralt, you can sleep with her or not in W1 prologue, but either way she gets upset about leaving you, and worries for your safety.
8. Lambert is well aware Geralt loves Yen, not Triss, and doesn’t know if you sleep with Triss or not in the W1 prologue. So why on earth would he say he didn’t want to hurt a friend, when to his knowledge Geralt doesn’t even love Triss, and only thinks of her as a friend. Or even less than that considering his amnesia and him not knowing her at all.
I don't know if this is a well known fact but in the Hearts of Stone expansion, when you are preparing for the heist you visit Ewald's house and he reveals your recruitment options... Well if you look closely on the wall behind him he has all the listed possiblities + ... you guessed it, Triss! But she is crossed out every time. I suppose he thought she could explode the vault with her fire based magic. Just imagine if you could recruit her! She would get her well deserved screen time
that's great ;] I didn't know!
Team Triss, back then, now, forever
Same here. I felt her very human and i loved the relationship Geralt had with her. While I couldn't even really like Yen.
Team Yen for life
The thing about Number 2 is that no matter what Geralt says, the point of the question was to find out if Geralt still has feelings for Yennefer, which he does because he's still under the effects of a Djnn's love spell, so that's why she always gets her answer without him stating it outright. Now depending on how you play, Geralt may either still love Yen after the spell is lifted but at the point the question is asked, he loves her, and she picks up on it, no matter the answer.
@redshirt49 Except the Djinn and Geralt’s wish has, and never had, nothing to do with love. The Djinn wanted to kill Yen for trying to capture it, so Geralt wishing for love wouldn’t of saved her life. And let’s entertain that it was about love, if that’s the case, they’d of never parted, had fights, and would of stayed together all happy. The Djinn had no effect on their feelings, it was their time apart fixing their individual issues, and Ciri being in the mix, that helped them grow and be a family.
That doesn’t really make sense, because if she knew Geralt did love Yen, why would she even bother asking the question to find out. Then act all upset.
@@whitewolf7454 Hmm, couples that love each other deeply break up all the time. Love is not the only ingredient to make a relationship work well. If anything, Geralt and Yen are a terxtbook example of that. After all, several characters point out how screwed up their relationship is. And it's perfect really, the Djinn wishes for them to always end up together knowing that it will never really work out in the long run. Seems just like the sort of thing a Djinn would do.
Women asking questions they know they answers to and then getting upset about getting the answer they knew they were going to get happens ALL the time.
Not sure why they do it, but trust me this is totally normal behaviour.
@redshirt49 You just glanced over the biggest point I made. If it had anything to do with love, feelings, even meeting up, then the Djinn could still kill her. Geralt can still love Yen even though she’s dead. And and he could still meet up at her grave or whatever. A dirty loophole. And yeah, love isn’t the only ingredient, but there’s nothing shown that suggests their choices are the Djinn’s work. They fixed their problems themselves, parted for years sometimes. So what did the Djinn really do? If it didn’t want them to truly be together, it failed. Both Geralt and Yen are intelligent, and if they had even an inkling of a warped wish, they’d of mentioned it. Yet neither do, ever.
Yet her reaction is exactly the same regardless of your choice. And considering you’ve spent years with her, and she’s a canon romance in the games, she’d have no reason to doubt he’s of two minds. As although he regained his memories, he didn’t forget the one’s he had while he was suffering with amnesia.
Oh and about people chiming in on their relationship, only Geralt, Yen, Ciri, Dandelion, and Triss know how it really is. And none of them say or claim it’s screwed up. The other sorceress’s, sorcerers, anyone else, just hear things or assume things. But their relationship wasn’t great at first, because both had their personal issues that they weren’t willing/able to fix at the time. Her abuse, no love, further emotional stunted growth as a sorceress. And him with his no love, raised to be a killer, no social interaction, and told he has no feelings. So they clashed because of these things, not because of a Djinn.
The implications for the soldier statuette quest are crazy. According to the soldier he was supposed to get the right flank of Nilfgaard's forces to attack the Northern shield barers but that never happened and gave the North the edge in battle. So whether on purpose or by accident compressing that soldier messenger means Lytta Neyd won the battle of sodden for the North and paid for it quite gruesomely with her life.
Seems i will never find out what she thinks of Necromancy
SINCE I WON'T LET THEM RIP OUT EVERY SINGLE OF HER FINGERNAILS
urgh... i feel bad just thinking about it. :'D
I didn't let her come to harm the last time I played it. So this time, I let her almost get killed to see if that would dramatically change her attitude towards me. Found out she still wants Geralt's D.
Maaan, ya know I wanted to do a playthrough where I let it happen, and I searched the Internet, it literally changes nothing bsides her immediate reaction, and the interrogation at midnight (which I like a lot), but man the game is too long and that scene is just too hard, the guys really made this game hit you very very deep, or maybe I'm just too soft hearted to let the woman go through that, while listening to it next door
Never really seen the appeal in Yen. I get that they have a very intense relationship but they are also constantly fighting and Geralt just seem exhausted every time. The relationship with Triss just seems calmer.
I chose Yen in game and also like her better but I must that Triss is also a very good character and would help Geralt in any way possible!
Sass over ass any day
@@clitcrusader4897 haha soo true!
That harlot! I picked Triss over Yenn in all 3 playthroughs now i learn she may be going behind my back!? I mean i may have slept with Keira, Shani, and multiple brothel workers during our relationship .... do double standards mean nothing anymore!
lol. Don't worry - it's not really feasible chronologically for a number of reasons. I delved into it on CDPR's messageboards. It's not canon, either, one of the head guys at CDPR said on Reddit it's up to the players' interpretation.
... also Ves, Princess Adda, several barmaids, a dryad, that elf lady who wanted a specific flower...
Brandon Gray Hey Brandon. I saw that thread of yours. Have a look at a thread on reddit I made myself as well. An interesting observation I made is that during the cutscene, the bathtub is right next to the bed with the footprints leading to the other side of the room where Triss was talking to the Lodge.
www.reddit.com/r/wiedzmin/comments/eo220i/evidence_possibly_debunking_the_trisslambert/
That and all the other dozens of points as well. I cannot believe how gullible some people are
Triss also used you for the Lodge and whines at you to do all this crap for her when she is one of the most powerful sourceresses alive.
I just felt I was interacting with a child and I treated her like one. She also doesn't respect a lot of your decisions and nags at you about it. I played all 3 games and I found her to be insufferable. She also kept the rose of rememberance from him because she "didn't want to lose what they had". What she really meant was I don't want to lose my control over you.
I think Yen is the obvious choice. She is more of an equal to Geralt and they work well as a team. He also dreams about her and have an adopted child that they both love dearly. One of his dreams is just live with Yen in a cabin away from politics and crap. Yen also felt the same way. She is a partner you never had to worry about our doubt.
@@meep5667 wait, Ves?
In No. 7 for Triss refusing to practice necromancy, if you complete Skellige first, you get a follow-up option to comment that Yen did it. Triss gets upset and shoots back that she's not Yen.
LAMBERT! you dirty back stabber... That's it, on the next play through, he's going on the funeral pyre!
Except, if my timeline is correct, It happened before the begining of Geralt and Triss's relationship, or at least just after they had sex the first time. It was absolutely not sure whether they would really end up together or if Geralt would recover his memories immediately, so there was no real certainty of their relationship.
rofl
@@DearShion Exactly PLUS Geralt Every. Single. Time. he slept with Triss or Shani or anybody was cheating on Yen! Geralt really has zero amount of room to judge or condemn.
@@flamesofchaos13
He had no recollection of their relationship, hello? And in the books, Yen cheated as well with some wizard, only she was in sound mind while at it, so she's not to judge either.
@@miloradowicz She does in fact judge seriously just try making the amnesiac excuse towards her...Boom portal. Boom sass. As for them both cheating I know but you should realize 1. Triss was her BEST FRIEND no other women Geralt was with did she know so personally and trust. 2. Geralt gained True Feelings for Triss unlike every other women who was simply a fling nothing serious. 3. Women are hypocrites you aren't justified just because they did it too.
So nope Geralt cheated big time and yeah he does in fact deserve harsh treatment from either Sorceress. He can't judge and they not only WILL and HAVE but actually are kinda justified in doing so.
So yep Geralt is always gonna lose this battle of the cheaters. And given Lambert is his brother and truly regretful Geralt wouldn't be pissed anyway. Bros before Hoes should be a Witcher Rule if it ain't one.
Also yeah Lambert if this theory is true DIDN'T cheat with Triss when Geralt get's to either Kaer Morhen or Vizima Triss WASN'T his women he either wasn't in a relationship or it could only be considered a fling at that point in the timeline.
Really disagree with the rats conversation thing... Yen behaves even worse and more immature than Triss if you romance Triss.
The Kaer Morhen scene after u find Ciri is the most awkward thing in the game... The way she asks if they want a moment alone making them uncomfortable.. Then lingering there just staring at them and then interrupting them? Triss does nothing like that. In fact in the same scene she just walks away and leaves them be.
Yennefer acts more immature in the game in general. Refusing to talk about relationship issues, destroying Geralt's possessions in a temper tantrum, and withholding information in order to get her way in all her major quests - and that's even if you romance her. I think it's just a thing that's taken hold over time. Yen has more fans (mostly because the game has a lot more of her and the game hard sells her even when not on screen. They'd be more even if not.). And with loving a character comes this idea that they have to be perfect and you need to defend them as better in all ways. So even though Yennefer is much more immature throughout the game, the fanon around her behavior is that she's very mature and solicitous while Triss is immature.
Zela Morre women can relate to yen more and more so the relationship type
@@EcnomicSuicide As a woman, I highly disagree with that. I don't relate to Yen at all. I know women who act like Yen, but I also learned to avoid them as friends because you can't trust them. They always hide shit from you so that they can get their way without having to consider others then act like the victim if you call them out on their willing Bullshit - like Yen does throughout the game and a good part of the books. I actually dislike Yen more because I'm a woman and know women like her.
@@zelamorre1126 They fucked up Yen in the game bad. In the books she is much more lovely, still has the cocky impression but is much better with Geralt.
@Zela Morre What are you talking about? She doesn’t talk about the relationship, because they were good the last time they were together, and now it’s complicated, but there’s more important things to do, like find their daughter who is getting hunted by powerful world conquering elves who aren’t taking breaks to talk about relationships.
What of Geralt’s does she destroy? Only thing i can think of is the bed. And that’s not Geralt’s, it’s Kaer Morhen’s. Or Vesemir’s. And she chucks it out because she doesn’t want to sleep on said bed when it’s not only covered in Triss’s hair, her earring, but it’s also a constant reminder that the love of her life was ploughing her best friend for 2yrs.
She doesn’t withhold everything in the main quests. The mask she tells you that’s what they are there to steal. The garden she tells you she plans on using necromancy. And for Uma, she tells you pretty much once you’ve arrived. But yeah she does withhold stuff, and I’ll explain why. You can understand my point, or just think I’m a fanboy or whatever, but either way it’s what I think.
She withholds certain information, like what she plans on doing with the mask, what will happen to the garden, or why she’s got the Witchers to do a certain task, all for a reason. She lives in a world that hates mages, and is actively hunted, and people don’t trust her, even though she’s never given anyone a reason not to, especially if it concerns Ciri. So she knew if she told Geralt what the mask could cause, he’d delay, or try and do something else, which would cause Ciri’s death. She didn’t tell him about the garden for the same reason. And didn’t tell the Witchers about the trials, once again for the same reason. Geralt protested the mask, and the garden, and the Witchers flipped about the trials, and she knew all this. You can’t just change an established character to act completely different, for instance making Batman kill someone. Geralt’s character is noble, and wouldn’t want to risk the mask, garden, or trials. She even points it out. Every single one of Yen’s plans were essential in finding Ciri. Geralt had no plans, the Witchers didn’t, only her. The mask, the garden, the trials, the lodge, all Yen. If she told everyone her plans, they’d get delayed or ruined entirely. And not only would Ciri be dead, the whole world would of been invaded and conquered by the Wild Hunt. Would you discuss why you need to cut this wire on a bomb that’s counting down, as you know what to do, to a person who knows nothing about it? Or would you just get to business and do it? The analogy is similar as the bomb needs to be disarmed fast or its over, and Ciri needs to be found fast, or its over.
I played Witcher 1/2 before 3 but hadnt read the books so for my first playthrough I was carrying over a save well I romanced Triss, having done research on the universe right before 3 I learned about Yen being the canon lover so I decided to do my first playthrough with Triss sense I really liked her and then romance Yen in a second playthrough. I never could bring myself to do that, I found I completely hated Yen and, by the end of the first playthrough, I was picking decisions just to piss her off.
Like I dont have a problem with people who pick Yen, but I could never do it. I am very happy with team Triss.
Thank the devs for given us the choice to pick something good...
@@sandrobsnake As Keira said, Yen treats Geralt like a dog. If we're talking purely Witcher 3, Geralt/Triss relationship always felt more sincere and mutual. Especially that scene in the tent in Nilfgaardian camp just before the final battle. Their cute little exchange, and Geralt whispering to himself "love you too" just melted my heart. Most of my memories of Yen consist of her not listening to Geralt, disrespecting everybody (stealing Ermion's mask, destroying Freya's garden, arguing with Vesimir), often being sarcastic or a smartass even when you ask or tell her something serious, never sharing her plan with anybody unless she deems it necessary, just overall treating people like crap and walking all over Geralt. It's not a difficult choice when it comes to picking who to romance in Witcher 3.
@@BL00DYME55 TW2 was the turning point for me. Triss is superb in that game.
But I agree with what you say about TW3. I just can't stand Yen. Didn't like the break up process, but it was a release moment...
TRISS? WITH LAMBERT????? DAAAAAAAMN I'M SO ANGRYYYYYY, GONNA LEAVE HIM DIE ON MY NEXT PLAYTHROUGH
Exactly bro that bastard will never steal my girl again
@@berketaskran8329 it was eskel. doesn't it say in the books that eskel looks like geralt and that triss kinda likes him because of that? lambert and triss hate each other.
Lambert lambert what a prick
@@areyouusingthatsquatrack8256 Uhm... no. CDPR cleary say it was Lambert. Ekel and Triss never had sex with each other.
@@Johanna-vr2qx yea but it doesn't make much sense in a lot of ways and it seems like just one of many plotholes in CDPR storytelling.
1:17 I still don't know how Lambert slept with Triss in TW1. He said at the beggining that he's going to Kaedwen to search for Salamandra, then, he literally teleports to Vizima just to plough Triss😂
Even though its longer than the norm. The video is still too short
This isn't related to this video but a very small detail I found in the game which I'm not sure if you've covered is after the romance mission with Yen where you dive in the waters around skellige looking for I believe the wreckage of a ship in regard to the djinn, when you return to land yen says she will meet you back at the inn at Kaer Trolde and she will ride off on her horse but if you get on your horse straight away as well and catch up to her there are a few lines of dialogue where she says something along the lines of "chose to keep me company?" with Geralt responding "wanted to make sure your safe" etc. Even though it's about three or four lines it is a really cool detail that just shows how much effort was put into this game, anyways great video as always, keep up the good work 😃
Yeah I noticed that too but did you know if in the middle you decide to leave her she comments something like "typical of you too leave me in the middle" something like that!
@@sidraiz22 To think that she has a line if you leave as well, so funny :)
I've had that as well, if I ever make part 2 of Yen I'll include it ;]
@@xLetalis please do so can't wait for Yen part 2!
@@yorokobeshounen3492 I just played iris storyline yesterday it was so heartbreaking!
I feel bad about using those figurines for components now, lol.
damn!
xLetalis yeah I guess I’ll be doing a new game ++++ which is ok actually because going back to this game or even the books is like putting on a pair of shoes that fits perfectly. I just hope now that there’s a huge hype train going again with the show’s release, that CD PR will get some people who aren’t working on Cyberpunk 2077 to start laying the groundwork for a Witcher 4 game. Heroes always come out of semi-retirement. Or they could do what so many companies like Square are doing and “remaster” or “remake” the original games, sell that to get many caught up fully(plus playing in current or next gen graphics would be excellent), then use all that $ to give us a great Witcher 4 game.
Either way, I’ll always have my books and games, plus the show really isn’t that bad of an adaptation except for a few things that just drive me nuts. I just try to forget about the books and games when things like Ciri, her timeline, and about 4-5 other things come up.
Other than that (of course Ciri is sort of central to everything), they seem to have kept the feel of the books & even games pretty well. Some scenes were almost exactly like the short stories. Having Cavill be a huge gamer and Witcher fan I think is what really makes it roll. I got her earring, but the closest save I have is after the main quest during B&W.
Hoping that I can see her at the end and be like hey...umm I was dramatically holding onto this for you the whole time. Lol
I am from Team Yen but I still love Triss, she is a sweetheart
Same here!
I like her too but I would definitely not say that she is a sweetheart.. not after what she has done in the books and previous games
@@wes8723 Witcher 3 seems to be trying to rehabilitate her. She seems genuinely sorry for what she did to Geralt and also doesn't want anything to do with the Lodge if it is recreated. That might also explain why she's so hesitant and accommodating with Geralt if he romances her. She wants to make up for past behavior.
@@brettmiddleton7949 Really? I mean they definitely whitewashed her character in TW3 compared to previous games (and books), but is she like really sorry? When you first meet her in TW3, she is almost joking when she mentioned that she was one of those people who took advantage of Geralt's amnesia and when she hugs Ciri in Kear Morhen she looks at Geralt and Yennefer as she wants them both dead..
This is one of those problems that I have with TW3 writing - the writers themselves said that they didn't understood Yenn's character from the books and why Geralt is with her and it shows .. they wrote every single bad thing about her character in the game, but not every good side to her .. why doesn't the game shows more of the mother/daughter relantionship between Yenn and Ciri? Why isn't there more scenes betweeen Geralt, Yenn and Ciri together? Why isn't it pretty much mentioned how Yennefer pretty much died of exhaustion when she was reviving Geralt from the death? How much Yenn cared about close friends around her? etc...
Yeah, nothing of that but of course show how Triss cares about all the mages from the North and how she listens to everything and agrees with everything Geralt has to say ..
They needed to show primary Yenn why she was so important for Geralt, because most people didn't know her when playing the game - they didn't read the books and at most some of them played the previous games, where she was only mentioned - and CD Projekt RED failed miserably in this aspect
@@wes8723 I've definitely added the books to my reading list because I'd like to understand why Geralt would ever have been involved with her in the first place. TW3 seems to have really been pushing the player towards Triss rather than presenting Geralt with a difficult dilemma in choosing. Player support for one romance or the other apparently comes down to how much knowledge the players have about the characters from outside of TW3.
Stepjan, the innkeeper, slept with Yennefer.
Crach too!
You've gotta be taking the piss
Point number 7, right before sending her to Menge at the fireplace when Triss takes out the shackles and you ask her "Right here and right now? In front of everyone?" Triss will reply to you "To your surprise, there is more use of it than in the bedroom" (Something along the line). Kinda suggested that Triss might come out as a submissive as compared to Yen's dominance.
Nr. 1 and the most important thing you might have missed ( for some reason), is that Triss, is best girl.
She sleept with your friend xD she's a bitch (?)
13:20 from my point of view, it's pretty obviously a broomstick, and she's riding on top of it like a witch would in all those old stories about them.
Fun fact: In Czech version of Witcher is Triss Merigold named Triss Ranuncul because it could be confused with Dandelion, which is in Czech called Marigold.
I heard about that ;]
Don't know if you'd consider it a Triss thing, but the a-hole you meet at the Vegelbud's can be met again after A Matter of Life or Death being burned at the stake outside the glory gate. If you use Aard on the fire you can save him
Saving that for the Novigrad video :)
About the scars, in the books it's common knowledge that triss has several scars, because she fight against Nilfgaard and even considered dead.
But I think it's quite possible she slept with lambert because also in the books she wonders if all witchers are a lover just geralt, or if somehow he is "unique".
I romanced Triss during one of my playthroughs but Yenn was so hurt at the Djinn, and then I read the books and was like no way he doesn't choose Yenn.
Great video first of all. Unlike most of those "Top 10 things you missed in xxxx" videos, most of these I really didn't know.
With regards to point 9...why she seems so timid around Geralt is because she actually loves him. She cares deeply for him and doesn't want to do things that will make him feel different to her. It's not that she is desperate...one tends to seem vulnerable towards someone they love or care about deeply. This is up to debate sure, but compare how she is around Geralt to Yen...very different.
Cheers
cheers ;]
I'd like to add to this that at the end of Witcher 2 Geralt gets his memory back and it's awkward with Triss when he brings it up. (Which is what leads to the split)
Triss was always the girl who wanted him but Geralt always was in love with Yen. She took advantage of his amnesia to start the relationship and feels very insecure now that he remembers all.
It's also very frosty with Yen on first meeting in Vizima if you ask why she didn't contact you. Geralt's reply that he lost his memory doesn't cut it and Yen only gets the answers she seeks to if Geralt truly loves her when the Djinn quest is complete.
By the way, Lambert saying "i'll head to Kaedwen" is pretty fucking dumb, Kaer Morhen is in Kaedwen, so he didn't need to go there
I just played through the Kaer Morhen scene where they do the drinking game, and I thought it was odd how Lambert replied about jumping out the window lol well glad I'm not the only one.
This game is just incredible, it's for life ❤
that it is :)
I would like to add a few points about miss marigold
1.In the book she is described as having chestnut hair and blue eyes but in the game we all know she has red hair and green eyes.
2.She is a skilled healer and carried with her many magical potions, but she never uses them on herself because she was allergic to potions.
3.She is known as marigold the fearless.
If you went into Triss old house, you will find that most books laying around the ground or beside the bed are all about Witcher which I suspect related to Geralt. I love Triss in the game but no so much in the book. Triss was only 30,40 years old at that time and Yen who at least a hundred years old, so it is naturally to feel Triss acting like young woman or sometime, immature school girl. I had to say even though they modified Triss a lot in the game, they still doing a fantastic job to able to make some changes but still somehow related to the book.
Don't know if you noticed it but if you go to the Hedge Maze at the Vegelbud residence during Carnal Sins you will see the two masked Courtesans from the party in A Matter of Life and Death quest. My headcannon is that they have been stuck in there since and have trouble getting out.
Triss act like shi is really in love with geralt, thats why I prefer her
Also there’s a poster in The Hearts of Stone expansion where when you go to the herbalists hut and go in the basement to talk to the stranger there’s a poster of her on the wall next to the other people who you can get to join your crew but her poster is crossed out.
I don’t know if you know this, but in the Masquerade at the Vegelbuds residence, you can also encounter General Voorhis (the guy that interrogated you while you shave your beard at Vizima) among the guests
too obvious, the only way to miss him is not to play Gwent, and I assume everyone plays gwent
Since I read all the books, I think both woman is have an attitude and I love both of them.
After I finsihed the books I never was able to really like Triss again XD
I think Triss is so awkward around Geralt, because she's madly in love with him to a point of obsession (also she's not manipulative in the games as she is in the books). In the same time she knows Yen is Geralt's big love and beats herself up about it. Makes me like her even more (tough I initially went romancing Yen in my first playthrough)
You completly skipped the fact that Triss shows pretty clearly in W1 that she doesn't like Lambert.
I see Triss, I like
#TeamTriss
xLetalis, at 15:51... with the Triss confidence thing. it's been an issue with Geralt and her from Game1. Geralt and Yennifer have had that 'Wish on a Genie' thing 'Linking their Fates' for a VERY long time! also, you can choose to romance BOTH Triss and the doctor lady in Witcher2. you remember the girl who shows up in the 'Heart of Stone' expansion pack, in Witcher3? she's your 'date' during the 'Be Possessed and Show the Dead Brother' a good time mission thread during the wedding. I think you're forgetting ALSO that Sorcerers/Sorceresses and Witchers have CRAZY long lifespans. I'm unsure exactly how old Geralt is in W3 but I do vaguely recall that he's over 50 years old and still in the prime of a Witcher's life.. Geralt (and other characters) mention more than once in W2 and W3 that "Witchers can live 200 or so years. But we usually die on the Path and not of old age." both Yen and Triss mention previous 'relationships' and even ... what's the blond sorceress' name... Kira Metz? the one that sends you to the cursed island to find the Sorcerer's notes... she mentions having a 'thing' for that Sorcerer in the past. also, Yen and Triss have been... well I guess frenemies is the best term... for a while BEFORE Geralt ever showed up. ;) never forget... we don't know EXACTLY how old Yen and Triss are so they may have issues from before having to compete over Geralt's affections. you have to pick and choose and look VERY hard inside W1-3 to figure out how old the Witchers and Magic users are because, quite frankly, the writers of this franchise have been NEARLY and I do mean NEARLY as inconsistent as the writers of the Assassin's Creed franchise. heh. :> yeah, I bet the novels would use dates and statements much clearer. like in the games Geralt's memory loss has been such a HUGE issue but, he mentions 'the battle of this or the battle of that' and 'this guy was king back then'. but of course Vezimir has the title of 'Oldest Witcher in the World' because he was around 'back in the day' when ALL the present day Wolf School Witchers were little boys and started their training.
At first, I planned on romancing Yen, because of the books.. But the Triss is sure choice right now.. I loved her in the 1st and 2nd game, and for me she's cute And kindhearted, Yen, at least in TW3, is cold and behaves like "general".
I've been looking forward to this
COUNT DOOKU !!! You've become more powerful than any jedi ;)
@@swtorfan1587 I was hoping for that comment
@@flo8517 In the darkness you will always find a star wars fan guiding to the light.
So here are a few things that don't make sense about Triss and Lambert: 1, as you said Lambert wasn't even in the city during the first game. 2, during the first game (when this probably took place) Grealt was not in a relationship with Triss, he only got into a relationship with her because he lost his memories..... he had just escaped the Wild Hunt and was in a relationship with Yennefer before that. 3, if they slept together before Grealt returned (obviously they had no idea he would return) then they had no reason to hide it from the other witchers. 4, if they did it after Grealt returned which is unlikely because she was already in love with Geralt.
I don't know if this just happened to me but if you loot the chest that Triss has in her house in Novigrad, you will get the '' The Last Wish '' book. I don't know, it's kind of funny.
i always end up with triss, never can get myself to romance yen
Triss is so cute and sweet she is besto waifu whoever rejected triss is the kind of person that would throw a cute kitten on the street
people say similar things about saying you no longer love Yenenfer!
@@xLetalis i feel that yeniffer is cold and arrogant she is not sweet and tender like Triss i feel Triss is more deserving of geralt then yennifer Triss really makes an effort and it shows
Guys you probably know now but triss didnt slept with lambert, those footprints dont come from the bed, but from the bath. (Also the footprints are wet)
Thank you for this. I love Triss so much!
Another thing about Corvo Bianco...if either Triss or Yen moves in, look around and you will find piles of luggage, books and items...whichever lady shows up brings a lot of personal items. And although they sleep in the bed in Geralt's master bedroom, upstairs in the guest room each will have a lovely gown on a rack ...not the same dress. (Sadly, when they sleep, they don't bother to change into nightclothes. Somehow I doubt Triss and more especially Yen would roll into bed at night in their street clothes. Would have liked it if they switched to some sort of nightgown...they're ladies in the bed of the love of their life...)
The drawing of Triss, scrawled onto her house, I believe is supposed to be a broom. I'm not sure if it's being stuck down her throat, all the way down and out through her... uhh.. cavity area. Either that, or it's supposed to be her riding the broom[stick], as many sorceresses are just stigmatized as witches (Rides a magic broomstick, old and ugly, long nose with a pimple on it, etc.). Just my thoughts
Yes it’s absolutely a broom! Bit of trivia for everyone, the reason why witches are depicted as flying around on brooms is because it represents them as being servants of satan and literally “riding his d*ck”. Unsure how this came about originally but that’s what it is.
The author clearly did not read books about the Witcher.
Triss talked about the Battle of Sodden when she came to Kaer Morhen to train Ciri. She talked about her scars. All the witches participated in that conversation - and Lambert too.
At the time I hadn't read them, true. Now I have :)
The second video game babe to make it on Playboy magazine CD projekt Red made her to perfect
who was the first?
Jose Gebrael Rayne, from the ‘Bloodrayne’ games
@@MarioMoreno-tt3hr wrong 90 Tomb Raider
Bloodrayne was the first.
Maybe I'm imagining things but in TW1 I swear there is dialogue outside of triss' house of someone saying "did you see that? He jumped out that window and landed on his feet" that's the gist of what is said but it implies it happened just before geralt arrives
hah... interesting
awfulinternet I don’t believe it for these reasons.
1. Triss and Lambert dislike each other, have never had a nice conversation, or even an inkling of attraction for each other.
2. Lambert has more than one friend lol. More than just his Witcher buds.
3. The card theory is stupid, as you get Olgierd’s from Shani, Yen’s from inkeeper Stjepan, and Ciri’s from a Scoia’tael trader. Therefore it’s daft.
4. They were all in different countries. Vesemir in Kaer Morhen, Eskel in Redania, Lambert in Kaedwen, and Triss and Geralt in Vizima.
5. Why would he need to bolt out the window? He could of left once Triss left to scan for anomaly’s. Or after Geralt got back, as he was unconscious.
6. The footprints belong to Triss most likely, considering she’s in a nightdress, and probably had a shower because she was filthy after collecting unconscious Geralt from a swamp.
7. Triss is in love with Geralt, you can sleep with her or not in W1 prologue, but either way she gets upset about leaving you, and worries for your safety.
8. Lambert is well aware Geralt loves Yen, not Triss, and doesn’t know if you sleep with Triss or not in the W1 prologue. So why on earth would he say he didn’t want to hurt a friend, when to his knowledge Geralt doesn’t even love Triss, and only thinks of her as a friend. Or even less than that considering his amnesia and him not knowing her at all.
I think that Triss comes across as self-doubting and vulnerable because she knows it's a tool. Not that she's trying to be manipulative necessarily but the sorceresses turn themselves into perfection for a reason. They know how to use womanly charms and what better way to charm a warrior like Geralt than to make him feel you need protection?
Looks like the witch is "riding" a broom.
Triss isn't able to hide her feelings, even in books. Probably related to the kind of magic she uses?
Nice video, thanks for that. But the clues pointing to the #1 detail are too weak:
1) Triss' scars were a common knowledge among the witchers, so Lambert mentioning them isn't a clue for him seeing her naked. She talks about them in the first novel in front of Geralt, Vesemir, Eskel, Lambert, Coen and Ciri.
2) Lambert talking about a friend and a lover is actually the only real clue in this theory, but too vague. A friend might be not only Geralt, but also Eskel, Coen, Aiden, Leo or even, least likely, Vesemir. Also the lover might be anyone. Triss might seem to be a likely candidate, but that's just a speculation, since the clues allegedly pointing to Triss are quite faint. Honestly, if we forget about the urge to connect Triss with Lambert, the mentioned friend could be Aiden rather than Geralt, since Lambert considered him to be a closer friend than Geralt. Lambert told Geralt: "We worked together a lot. Hands down the best man I'd ever met. I mean, I like you, you know that. Still, no comparison."
3) winning a certain card from a certain person is seriously supposed to be a clue that he/she slept with the person on that card? So Yennefer slept with the innkeeper in Oxenfurt, Geralt slept with Thaler, Vesemir slept with Vimme Vivaldi, Zoltan slept with that scholar who was so eager to witness the war ... No, I really don't think so.
4) the "social network confirmation" was later denied by Marcin from CDPR. He said it's "totally up to player's interpretation" and that the first part of the answer is the only part that counts, meaning the part "We wanted to leave some things for your speculation". Source: www.reddit.com/r/witcher/comments/7hydbe/from_the_witcher_official_facebook_page_maybe/dqw8qmv/
5) the footprints in TW1 don't originate at the bed, but quite far from it. They lead towards the bed and then along the bed to the window (and also to the books on the window ledge, which might or might not be a coincidence). It seems that the visibility of the footprints depends on your camera angle, maybe also on graphics settings. A much longer trail of the footprints is visible in some other youtube videos:
ruclips.net/video/1L3vcAF8m5g/видео.html
(from Mr. Odd's Let's Play)
ruclips.net/video/JXml56u8yXU/видео.html
(from Gopher's Let's Play)
Also, ViciousFish posted some interesting observations on the forums:
- The footprints go from the bath to the window, nowhere else.
- The person either got out of the bath or stepped in the puddle around the bath, most likely the former.
- The foot prints are small, much smaller than Geralts foot.
- They are very close together. The person was walking very slowly. Not running or moving quickly. Like someone would walk knowing they have wet feet on a slippy floor, and they are in no rush. So I am pretty confident they were intended to have been made by Triss.
Source: forums.cdprojektred.com/index.php?threads/lamberts-secret-lover.55178/page-2#post-11490181
Also, as some other people already pointed out, the theory just doesn't add up with what happens in TW1. Geralt first appears in Triss' house (in her bed), unconscious, after the fight with Azar Javed and the Professor. When he wakes up, the footprints are already there. Even if we assume that Lambert was there (which already is a mere speculation), he wouldn't have to jump from the window to spare the feelings of unconscious Geralt.
#1 : It is rumored that Triss died at the battle of Sodden. Lambert is referencig to that event.
Gosh, the second painting on a wall in Trisses home is a witch flying on a broomstick. Quite common portrait of witches in eastern Europe.
13:50 : she's throwing a shit at supersonic speed.
The mightiest and darkest magic ever.
why was shani only dlc :'(. she was the only one thats not playing you for their own gain!
@Ankush Thakur Idk Andrzej Sapkowski turn on the story sorry but in the video games Yen is very much portrayed as using Geralt to further her own means. On every point. To be honest I would like to read the books as I don't think Yens character gets portrayed or explained very well. Ive played all three games and Yens appearance is some what similar to Triss in the first game. I know I will probably get schooled on the original workings of Andrzej Sapkowski but I don't think many people would know his work so well with out the video games narrative to begin with. In the first game shani seems like a self-driven women wanting to aid in healing the wounded during a war. Not just trying to convince Geralt to do some crazy task for her to aid in her final goal. Its a self derived opinion with someone else's narrative on a story. If you would like to argue on witch marvel character would beat who it is the same semantics. It was always contextual. Everyone has an opinion.