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Here's some fun facts about these movies: 1. Peter Jackson wasn't even the original director. He stepped in to save it after the director, Guillermo Del Toro, had to leave the project. Peter also wasn't given NEARLY as much pre production time as he did with LOTR, which he got roughly 3 years for. 2. If you read, pick up, or even SEE the book "The Hobbit" anywhere, it's pretty obvious it can't logically be turned into 3 movies, which Peter Jackson didn't want to do. He wanted to do 1 movie, or 2 at most. WB Studios forced him to do 3, though, meaning he had to start making things up. Tauriel isn't even a real character, Azog shouldn't be here until the very end, Sauron has nothing to do with this, etc. 3.Jackson wasn't given as big of a budget either, so a lot of the scenes were filmed in a green screen room. Gandfal actor Ian McKellan broke down crying on set because he was forced to work in this green prison, and hated it. The crew all threw an appreciation party for him the next day, though!
Sir Ian loves to act with people. In the Lord of the Rings, he got to act a lot with the other tall characters, while the hobbits+Gimli acted together. And then the two vids where clipped together with some movie magic. Also a lot of brilliant dwarf dwarf's + kids body doubles. Here Gandalf is almost the only tall person, so they kinda had to put him into the green screen hell. Of course, that doesn't mean Sir Ian suffering is any less. I just in general see a lot of people complaining about how Sir Ian was treated, without understanding why.
@@WolfFireheart That is giving far too much credit, it wasn't _just_ the tall characters that Sir Ian acted with in the Lord of the Rings, most of the scenes with the hobbits were done using body doubles or forced perspective instead of just greenscreening it. It was _not_ an unavoidable consequence of the different casts of the two books, but just as much the lower production values and over-reliance on CGI of the Hobbit films.
@@kael-2077 You'd basically have to go back to the Second and First Ages to get them. And that is unlikely to ever happen. Particularly after Amazon basically butchered "Rings of Power." I wouldn't blame the Tolkien Estate for never allowing anybody to adapt their material ever again, after that travesty!
Benedict Cumberbatch's performance as Smaug is THE reason I checked out this film in the first place That was YEARS ago, and watching this beast again, I am ADDICTED to how charismatic and cunning he is
Omg, how could I miss Benedict Cumberbatch being in this in the first place 😱 Sadly I missed watching the movie in theaters, but I managed to watch part of it during a 1 hour flight 😅
8:23 "whats it with the LOTR and spiders?" oh Ange, if only you read the Silmarillion, You would meet the colossal and nightmarish answer to that question.
One does wonder whether J.R.R. Tolkien himself hated Spiders, and used this entire world of his to paint them in the villainous light he always personally thought of them as. He definitely would not be the first. People and spiders historically do not get along well...
@@martythetickler If they're poisonous, they'd better be in a fish tank, to keep them under guard (tarantulas are cute though, maybe it's the "fuzz" that does it for me. lol). As for standard ordinary house spiders, unless they come crawling across my bed, or my body, while I'm trying to sleep, I generally leave them alone. They mostly keep to themselves, and they're handy as "free pest control," seeing as how they gobble up any other insects that wander into my house.
The 4th can still be fun despite its quality drop. The 5th one is just baffling and the character assassination on Jack Sparrow is probably one of the worst.
Yes then she can see what Orlando Bloom as Bard would look like 😂😂 i love that she made the connection without even being familiar with Will (assuming you are correct in that she hasn't seen them)
I love how Smaug is basically a modern update on the classic evil dragon from folklore. Hes not just evil for the sake of evil. He’s a narcissistic psychopath (as Peter Jackson described him), and a very polite one at that. Also, loved him on Stephen Colbert!
@@nicksmyth4050 watched the full interview, classic late late interview, dude. Thanks for that reference! Dude was roasting (pun intended) himself and Martin Freeman.
No, Bilbo referring to himself as barrel rider told Smaug that they had come from Mirkwood and had met the Elves there. Bilbo is unintentionally giving Smaug information about himself and the dwarves as he's trying to be secretive.
@@HumanoidfrenzzyActually, with the monicker of “Barrel Rider” is that Smaug assumes that the people of Lake Town have something to do with this, so after that hint is that Smaug flies off and begins to attack the town
If you’re visiting the Hobbiton movie set near Matamata in New Zealand you can book the ‘evening dinner tour’. You walk through Hobbiton with the last tour of the day by dusk then have a ginormous fantasy/medieval feast inside the ‘Green Dragon Pub’ with ale and cider and afterwards walk though Hobbiton again by starlight. Such a cool experience!!
This movie is so good, I’ve been looking forward to your reaction to this movie (literally screamed when I saw u uploaded this video, not joking) because omg it’s so good. I rewatch the hobbit more than the lotr almost entirely because DRAGON, like seriously this is the coolest dragon I’ve seen in any sort of movie or show, idc idc. And then SO many people hate on Kili and Tauriel but I think they’re so cute. 😭 The movies in this trilogy are my comfort movies, they just make me so happy with the characters and the actors and the vibes and the story just UGH I love it so much. 😭💞
Kili and Tauriel was an even better romance than Aragorn and Arwen was. At least in my opinion, that is. Mostly because Tauriel's actress was freaking BLAZING HOT in that wig, and that makeup! Also, the idea of an Elf and a Dwarf having a romance is so "Romeo and Juliet" that you can't help but love the idea of it. As for the dragon, yeah... Smaug, and basically this entire movie, is the absolute PEAK of this entire trilogy!
@@jacob4920 Fr 😭😭 I love Aragorn and Arwen, something about their relationship is so magical and majestic, and then Kili and Tauriel are almost the complete opposite if that makes any sense. Like instead of unearthly they’re just so cute and sweet and agree 100% that it’s very Romeo and Juliet. I love both relationships but I’d be lying if I said I didn’t like Kili and Tauriel better. Can’t judge you about Tauriel either, after my obsession with the hobbit I went through and binged a bunch of shows and stuff that Kili’s actor was in. Fell for him IMMEDIATELY. 😭😂
My armour is like tenfold shields, my teeth are swords, my claws spears, the shock of my tail is a thunderbolt, my wings a hurricane, and my breath death! Such a cold speech and that’s still underrating his power
Anytime I see people freak out over the ending I remember how I felt au cinema knowing I had a long hard year ahead of me and you all can just watch it right away now!
When you see the last Hobbit movie, please watch the end credits! Billy Boyd ( Pippin in lotr) has a song called the last goodbye and they play it in the credits, it’s really beautiful❤
I saw both Desolation of Smaug and Battle of Five Armies in theaters, and I loved them both. Anytime I travel on long flights, I watch The Hobbit and LOTR films. They're my favorite films.
Omg when Smaug said his final lines, "I am fire, I am death", gave me fucking chills the first time I watched it, and it still does to this day. Benedict did an absolutely phenomenal job as Smaug 👌 I'm a huge sucker for anyone with a great voice
I found out in April 2013 that I'd had a sister for 23 years I didn't know about. My daddy was a Marine and a mailman, and I guess chicks dig uniforms. Anyway, she loves Lord of the Rings. She's my go-to for book mythology, a personal Silmarillion. We finally got to meet in person at a special IMAX screening of Unexpected Journey before the 12:01am premiere of Smaug. Between that moment in time and Smaug himself and that ending, I can never hate on it. It keeps a special soft spot in my soul. 🐉
I had much more fun watching YOU watch it Ange, than when I originally saw it in the theater! For one thing, there's your cute puppy, and for another there's you loving the barrel chase (which I had hated due to the over the top CGI). I look forward to the 5Armies with you...
Elves exist in the unseen realm as well, as brilliant points of light. He was seeing her in her "astral" form much like Frodo saw Arwen (in the movies) and Glorfindel (in the books) as blazing white angels while they could see into the unseen realm
I personally think the first Hobbit movie is pretty great, the second one is a lot of fun to watch, and the third has great moments while being a lot more flawed than the other two. That said, the last entry in this trilogy is probably still going to be very enjoyable for people who don't know the book. I just think that it is a bit weird and forced to make a whole third movie of what is like the last 50 pages in the book. It's like a very thinly veiled cash grab and "let's make it a trilogy again" look to me. I saw it in theaters and was a little bit let down storywise, but it was still a fun movie with great visuals and action. It is still a good movie and not as bad an adaptation as others. So I'm looking forward your reaction to the third movie, your videos are always great fun to watch! :)
I love that you loved this movie so much!! I was one of those people who thought this trilogy, especially the conclusion quite mid when I first saw them at the theater. As so many years have passed, my appreciation has grown immensely. After watching yours and others' first time reactions, I now feel the Hobbit trilogy is epic and severely underappreciated. 💘
What I find interesting, is that they changed the race of Azog and Bolg for the films: in the book Azog was the king goblin (a goblin I'm sure of but I might be wrong on the king part) and Bolg was his son
At 28:26 Thorin " If this is the end with fire, we should all burn together"... That line is also part of Ed Sheeran- I see fire song's lyrics.. You must listen that song too
if you're still tryin to get your LOTR music fix, it's still at radio city music hall today and tomorrow (2/16 and 2/17) with a live orchestra... it's an amazing experience!
Tolkien fans have a love/hate relationship with adaptations of his work. The Peter Jackson Lord Of The Rings is maybe 60-70% of the source material with some pretty significant changes sprinkled in. But it was a great story and fully immersive. Most of us love it! Then they made so much money off the story the studio said we HAVE to do the Hobbit too! PJ didn't want to do them and kinda got sucked into it. He was planning on one move to cover the Hobbit, (It's a fairly small book). But the studios said NO, it has to be 3 movies! In creating a new story that would stretch over 3 movies, many things from the book didn't fit with the new theme and flow. So the fans were expecting ALL of their favorite parts to be in it because they had plenty of time, but what we got was less source material and lots of things that go against Tolkiens writings just so the studios could get a cash grab. If you take the Tolkien out of it, it's a great story though. So we kind of are reluctant, bitter fans. I like it as a fantasy story. But I don't like it as an adaptation of Tolkien.
It goes deep into the whole Dolguldore subplot, in a way the original "Hobbit" never did. Those events actually did happen, but none of it had anything to do with the original book. It was just expansive material, ripped out of its' proper place in the timeline, in order to make the trilogy possible, in the first place. But the parts of the three movies that actually are faithful to the source book are AMAZING, and thus I am way more forgiving of these trespasses than most other fanboys are.
@jacob4920 I agree, the Dolguldore/Necromancer stuff was alluded to in the books, and we know that's where Gandalf went on his "Side Quest" 🙂. But it didn't pertain to the story the Dwarves were part of. I think the biggest thing the fans take issue with is golden boy Legolas. While he wasn't technically in the Hobbit, he would have likely been present for the interaction at the Mirkwood court. And it's possible that he interacted with the company while there. But then they shoe horned in the love triangle, which would have definitely never happened. Even if it made for an interesting storyline in the movies. Also, the LOTR movies really exaggerated his abilities, but the Hobbit movies gifted him abilities that outdo every single other character or race in middle earth. They definitely leaned hard into the already established Legolas fangirl hype as part of the cash grab. And that is, I think, the biggest thing rubbing fans; the clear, unmasked, sticky fingered, cash grab. The LOTRs felt like the studio were also fans, while the Hobbit felt like greedy extortion 😆🤣.
@@toddjackson3136 That may be. It just doesn't bother me as much as it bothers others. Besides, we have "The Rings of Power" series to show us all what a complete middle-finger to Tolkien fans actually looks like. And that goes a long way to helping me forgive "The Hobbit."
@@toddjackson3136 A cameo by Legolas when the dwarves pass through the woodland realm would have been great, instead what we got was him being made into basically another main character with his story _overshadowing_ the actual story of Bilbo and the dwarves.
Loved watching this when it first came out. Never really bought into the hate for these movies. Are they as good as LOTR? No. But what movies are? The bar is set SO high. These movies are great in their own right.
Honestly I like them just as much. As masterfully done as the LOTR movies are, there are a number of scenes that make sense in the books but really drag the pacing to a halt on screen without adding anything. Don't really get that with The Hobbit.
ill keep it short but i wanna make it clear upfront, i love the hobbit films. i believe most of the additions are improvements. however this is my issue with them: the way i see it, the book kinda has 3 acts. the first hobbit film fills the first act perfectly imo. from the unexpected party to out the frying pan and into the fire (the eagles), perfect. where it goes from in the films is act 2. which is from queer lodgings (beorn) to barrels out of bound and the 3rd act is from arriving in laketown to the aftermath of the battle of the five armies. theres an argument to be made that the third act ends with smaug and theres a 4th act that deals with the aftermath and the five armies. i was really disappointed that act 2 in mirkwood was so squashed together to make room for the big cinematic battle in the 3rd film. those chapter in the book are ENCHANTING. heres a list of things that i absolutely adored in the books that were cut entirely from the films. gandalf taking the dwarves 2 by 2 to beorn as to not startle him and bilbo realising the exact same trick was played on him, beorn's gorgeous garden, bilbo hearing the mysterious moonlight meeting of bears under the door and seeing the pawprints the next morning before it's revealed that the beornings (all the bear people) were discussing what to do with the growing goblin and orc problem and whether to help the dwarves more, mirkwoods challenging atmosphere, the critters that seemed to haunt them all along the path and the river that put bombour into a coma when he fell in it, when theyre attacked by the spiders bilbo frees a few dwarves who are too weak to fight off the spiders again so he has them chase his taunting voice into the woods while the strongest dwarves free everyone else. in the films the dwarves leave the path by accident but in the books they run from it when they see the twinkling light of woodelves celebrating the end of summer through to trees, which is how theyre arrested and finally while in the palace bilbo spends days invisibly searching for an escape while stealing tiny rations and living in the shadows. i was really looking forward to all that but it just was not there. not even mentioning how in the desolation of smaug we don't even see the desolation of smaug, in the book they have to travel through a barren landscape filled with chard and haunting ruins, thats literally what the "desolation" is. final negative points: the scene where tauriel rubs the plant on kili makes me extremely uncomfortable, i dont have a problem with the romance as a whole, i get the point that it takes up too much time and i definately think its a crying shame that one of the only women in this film is added to end up as a love interest but asside from that i like it, i like that its cheesy, i like that its a thing. my other point is; whys legolas gotta be such a blue eyed dick in the hobbit? it makes no sense that after 2000 years of living he has a complete 180 positive personality shift in 60 years after meeting some unpleasant dwarves from racist facist asshole to a kinda arogant elf whos willing to learn tolerance. makes no sense, why add him if he's not going to act like himself? all in all, the lord of the rings films was always going to be a rough act to follow. they were lightning in a bottle and i firmly believe no film will ever reach their level. thats why i think the hobbit gets more hate than it deserves. ok now to end on a positive i'll say why i do actually love these films still. the way bard was turned from this grubby grim guy in the books to the literal folk hero he is in the films is fantastic. he has so much character, hes so amazing. similarly thandril is awesome in the films (as are his eyebrows) such a compelling antagonist, speaking of antagonists, thorin's dragon sickness was PERFECTLY executed. and laketown in the films is so real. i actually didn't realise until after i watched the film just how lacking it is in the book. also the barrel scene is fantastic and so fun. and it goes without saying but martin freemans preformance all the way through is just perfect for bilbo. imo the best portrayal of any of the hobbits in any of the films. anyway i should stop there because i think i made my past self a liar for saying "keep it short". tldr the hobbit films are amazing, people just don't like them because they want them to be lotr, a feat that is quite frankly; impossible.
The reason why Smaug was mad whenever Thorin called him a slug or a worm was because Smaug was actually one of the smallest dragons in Middle Earth, especially when compared to Ancalagon the Black, the largest dragon
Nah, the main problem with these movies is too much content. There is a 5 hour super cut of the entire trilogy that only shows scenes from the book that is far superior. So no lovr triangle, Gandalf side quest, or any of the other bloat.
One point: when The Hobbit movies came out they used a new technology for hi-def 64 frames per minute cinematography and it the theaters it looked awful and distracting. That added to having a bad reputation when compared to the cinematic LoTR trilogy look and feel.
It was only 48 fps, which is _less_ than ordinary TV has been for decades at 50/60 (depending on your country). I don't know exactly what they did to fuck up the Hobbit films, but it wasn't that the fps was too high.
I watched this movie before the next one had been released and I remember realizing that I would have to wait after seeing that cliffhanger. Great reaction, excited to see your next one!
This one of the first movies I remember seeing in theaters, the feeling in the theatre when it hit the credits is something I’ll never forget. Also having to wait a year to find out what happened was excruciating.
Hmm I know what u mean but desolation also means something like bleakness. I can‘t really explain it to you in good words bc english isnt my native language haha. The german title is a bit more fitting i guess. Its called „Smaugs Einöde“ which means „Smaugs wasteland“, but I dont find a better translation.
As "spiritloa" said, the "Desolation of Smaug" refers to the once green area that was burnt into a wasteland by Smaug when he first drove the dwarves from the Lonely Mountain and took it over.
I think given a lot of the hate is due to how far it strays from the books and lore that its still warranted regardless of the positive parts of the movie
The Hobbit was started as a Children’s Story and it reads that way until you get to the Battle of the Five Armies. The controversy is partly because of Tauriel and the Love Story. When they were filming it in the Chat Rooms I said I didn’t care as long as they didn’t change the ultimate ending. Because the ending was the best part of the book.
@@JessieTrainorLVegas I roll my eyes whenever I see this argument. This movie is a bloated mess. If this is cinema you enjoy then I understand how the entertainment industry turned into such shit in the past 20 years.
@@stevenstone307 So basically you're confirming what I had already said. At the end of the day, the entire thing is fictional. I'd understand if this was some world changing book based on facts that was being changed into a movie, but it's not.
I personally enjoyed the Hobbit movies. I understand why people don't like them, but as a die-hard book fan i honestly have just as many issues with the LotR trilogy as i do with the Hobbit movies, and yet i can still enjoy both trilogies for what they are rather than what i wish they were. I still hope that one day someone will come along and make a 100% accurate Hobbit/LotR mini-series, but until then i am satisfied with what we got. And considering what we've gotten since then, it really could have been a whole lot worse.
Legolas is not on hobbit book, but they did put him in the movies for connection. He's more aggressive because he's a wood elf, they are like "low key savages" between the elves, as described in the book.
The reason Gandalf couldn’t remember the names of the other wizards is because they had only licensed “The Hobbit” and “The Lord of The Rings” for the movie. The other wizards names are given in “The Silmarillion” which they hadn’t licensed so couldn’t use.
Did you you know that the white bearded Balin is in the Tomb of the Lord of Moria where the Troll Stabs Frodo? He’s Gloin is Gimli’s father Balin is his Cousin.
loved the reaction. and to me its not a bad series of movies. the Hobbit was the first fantasy book i ever read growing up. Some of the main things ppl hate about this trilogy of movies is that they cut out ALOT of stuff from the book. but i can see why they had to or the 3 movies might have been 4-5 movies. and that Evangeline Lilly's character, Tauriel, WASNT in the BOOK. thats the big thing about it. they took so much stuff out,but added a character that truely wasnt needed.
Here’s a thought. Both Frodo’s and Bilbo’s journeys would take the life out of any man, but they’re 2ft tall… so the energy expenditure that they’d have compared to us is wild. So the fact either of them made that journey is extraordinary 👌🏽
I think the theatrical release of the third one definitley has a mid second half but the extended edition doesn't forget the dwarves if you havent watched it yet. That cliffhanger in the cinema tho... definitely gets paid off
YEY! I love these movies!! And I was the same. I had loved LOTR for 10 years (it's still my favourite thing ever) and getting to come back to that version of middle earth was nothing short of an absolute treat! Do i love absolutely everything about the movies? No...but i think anything small i didn't like was made up for by the fact it was a big Peter Jackson middle earth hug! Seeing Legolas again was an absolute pleasure. He is not in the books, but I'm pretty sure The Hobbit was written before LOTR was fully established with Tolkien..and Thranduil (Legolas' father) is in the book..and he's like 3000 years old it makes absolute sense for him to be there. And honestly..this is gonna come into play more with movie 3 but I'm gonna say it...sure...they added a LOT to these movies...but as someone who as read (and absolutely loves) the book...I think it's highly underestimated how much went into making this work as 3 movies. It is also very clearly now for an audience that has seen The Lord of the Rings movies and they take advantage of that. There are of course book/lore appendices which..the film makers know much better than I do...so incorporating events that happened around that time even if not in the book I think was smart. We as LOTR viewers are familiar with Sauron and the ring. Adding that looming threat helps that connection, gives more weight and reason to the future battle. Characters in the movie actually have..yknow...a personality (looking at Bard and 90% of the dwarves), Azog gives Thorin a deeper arc. The book is purely from Bilbo's POV and it's a gorgeous lovely hilarious book but that just doesn't work as well on screen i think they did great. I don't love the love triangle..i don't particularly love Kili and Tauriel...but Kili having his own arc adds weight to his story and I appreciate the effort of adding a new badass female character where there is so few. Having Smaug and the dwarves have a proper confrontation to add some action and to show off the absolute beauty that is Smaug makes total. Ties the dwarves in a little more and not just Smaug having a tantrum over a cup going missing and going off to burn a town 😂. Anyway I'll stop fawning now. Excited for movie 3!
Benedict Cumberbatch's performance as Smaug is definitely a high point, he totally nailed the character. Best dragon I can think of in films. The big fight scene was awful though, was a terrible scene in general, he's a damn _dragon,_ there is a very good reason why in the book they _didn't_ fight him at all, let alone trying to kill a _dragon_ using _fire._ 🤦 Not to mention probably the worst CG job I've _ever_ seen on the molten gold. And they made _far_ too much of Legolas, Orlando Bloom having a cameo like Ian Holm and Elijah Wood did in the first one would have been great but instead they basically made him another main character. He has a significantly _bigger_ part than most of the dwarves! 😡
I think these are good movies, but i have always loved Bilbos story more then Frodos. However the translation from the book isn't quite as flawless in this instance, I like Bilbos adventure better because its more light hearted but still deep and Biblo is the clever protagonist that has read all about the things he's doing but never actually done any of them. It grounds Bilbo in an extremely relatable way to the reader. In the case of this movie I think the changes that where made are a bit more unnecessary. Like in the books Bilbo tries to pickpocket the trolls as burglar practice, as he isn't really a burglar and feels he should get some experience before steeling from a dragon. The orcs hunting Thoren, the Sauron returning plot,Bilbo being influenced by the ring none of that was in the book. So i think a lot of reason the movie gets hate is 1 the cgi and 2 the changes from the book that felt unnecessary to they could fit in the other sub plots. Having said all that, i do like these movies. i just feel the LOTR movies where better representations of the books. all my opinion tho
As a lifelong Tolkien fan (read the books over and over as a kid, was on "cloud 9" when the Peter Jackson films started being released when I was a college freshman) I love your reviews of the LOTR and Hobbit movies! As for what it is with Tolkien and spiders, Tolkien was extremely arachnophobic, so giant spiders were the most horrifying creature he could imagine and they featured in both "The Hobbit" and "Lord of the Rings" for that reason.
I think the hate towards the Hobbit movies is because they are a bit more "light hearted" than LOTR and a lot of movie franchises were going through changeups as to how they're developed, but I don't think people appreciated the humor. That being said I've heard the Hobbit book is actually children's book and LOTR was intended to be more mature as the readers were older by that stage so these complaints are kinda ironic. Also there is some changes to the source material which always does bring some controversy like Legolas who wasn't in the Hobbit books who, while a welcome addition, is deemed as "fan-service" that isn't needed. Some new characters added are also considered underdeveloped and I say more to avoid spoilers. I think it was a situation where changes conflicted with the changing times since I've seen more people appreciating these movies in recent years than when they first came out.
I've heard some people trash this trilogy but I love it. It's a fun adventure and lets me spend more time in Middle Earth. I'll never complain about that!
Please Ange, please, do NOT EVER watch "Rings of Power" for any reason. If you have the slightest sparkle of love for Peter's Jackson's work, completly ignore what Amazon did. It was a massacre.
Smog the golden seems very impressive and powerful in this movie, and he is the largest of the fire drakes left in middle earth. However, in comparison to the first fire, drake Ancalagon the black. Smog the gold is not all that impressive. Smog fits and lives inside the mountain. Ancalagon the black would be as big as the mountain itself. I have read somewhere that from the tip of his tail to his nose. He is 10 miles long. When you compare the two he makes smog the golden look insignificant. Now that’s a very scary thought.
ok but imagine being a 13 lil boy when this movie released, watching the end and then being forced to leave the cinema not knowing when the next movie will come out. That cliffhanger killed me
These movie's biggest issue is that they spend so much time setting up for Lord of the Rings, that they miss the whole point of Bilbo not being the big hero. He's not the hero of the story, he's the main character, but not the hero.
Lol I'd love an update video if you ever get the chance to read the book. The Hobbit movies are alright on their own it's when you compare them to the books that they completely fall apart.
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Here's some fun facts about these movies:
1. Peter Jackson wasn't even the original director. He stepped in to save it after the director, Guillermo Del Toro, had to leave the project. Peter also wasn't given NEARLY as much pre production time as he did with LOTR, which he got roughly 3 years for.
2. If you read, pick up, or even SEE the book "The Hobbit" anywhere, it's pretty obvious it can't logically be turned into 3 movies, which Peter Jackson didn't want to do. He wanted to do 1 movie, or 2 at most. WB Studios forced him to do 3, though, meaning he had to start making things up. Tauriel isn't even a real character, Azog shouldn't be here until the very end, Sauron has nothing to do with this, etc.
3.Jackson wasn't given as big of a budget either, so a lot of the scenes were filmed in a green screen room. Gandfal actor Ian McKellan broke down crying on set because he was forced to work in this green prison, and hated it. The crew all threw an appreciation party for him the next day, though!
He did an INCREDIBLE job considering the circumstances
Sir Ian loves to act with people. In the Lord of the Rings, he got to act a lot with the other tall characters, while the hobbits+Gimli acted together. And then the two vids where clipped together with some movie magic. Also a lot of brilliant dwarf dwarf's + kids body doubles.
Here Gandalf is almost the only tall person, so they kinda had to put him into the green screen hell.
Of course, that doesn't mean Sir Ian suffering is any less.
I just in general see a lot of people complaining about how Sir Ian was treated, without understanding why.
Proof that it's not always the writers fault, often you can afford just a little bit of blame to the studios
Azog was dead, actually.
Only Bolg appeared, leading goblins/Orcs.
@@WolfFireheart That is giving far too much credit, it wasn't _just_ the tall characters that Sir Ian acted with in the Lord of the Rings, most of the scenes with the hobbits were done using body doubles or forced perspective instead of just greenscreening it. It was _not_ an unavoidable consequence of the different casts of the two books, but just as much the lower production values and over-reliance on CGI of the Hobbit films.
For me Smaug is by far one of the Greatest Dragons to ever be brought to life on screen
there are more interesting and bigger dragons in the world of lotr, i wish we could see more of the dragons.
@@kael-2077 You'd basically have to go back to the Second and First Ages to get them. And that is unlikely to ever happen. Particularly after Amazon basically butchered "Rings of Power." I wouldn't blame the Tolkien Estate for never allowing anybody to adapt their material ever again, after that travesty!
yeah you're right but it would've been cool to see those dragons in live action. ,@@jacob4920
@op i agree! The hobbit trilogy has it's weak spots but Smaug is not one of them! Top tier animation and voice acting 😁
Benedict Cumberbatch's performance as Smaug is THE reason I checked out this film in the first place
That was YEARS ago, and watching this beast again, I am ADDICTED to how charismatic and cunning he is
Omg, how could I miss Benedict Cumberbatch being in this in the first place 😱 Sadly I missed watching the movie in theaters, but I managed to watch part of it during a 1 hour flight 😅
@ShawndaPrawn especially speaking and liking speeches in riddle sentences
I hate the word cunning lol
8:23 "whats it with the LOTR and spiders?"
oh Ange, if only you read the Silmarillion, You would meet the colossal and nightmarish answer to that question.
Nice to finally meet one that makes Shelob look like a normal size spider, isn't it?
All hail Ungoliant!!
One does wonder whether J.R.R. Tolkien himself hated Spiders, and used this entire world of his to paint them in the villainous light he always personally thought of them as. He definitely would not be the first. People and spiders historically do not get along well...
@@jacob4920 I can't say I'm a big fan of them myself. Especially not if they're poisonous.
@@martythetickler If they're poisonous, they'd better be in a fish tank, to keep them under guard (tarantulas are cute though, maybe it's the "fuzz" that does it for me. lol). As for standard ordinary house spiders, unless they come crawling across my bed, or my body, while I'm trying to sleep, I generally leave them alone. They mostly keep to themselves, and they're handy as "free pest control," seeing as how they gobble up any other insects that wander into my house.
Once you complete the Hobbit Trilogy, the next fantasy film series to watch is the Pirates of the Caribbean Trilogy... notice I only said trilogy.
Tbf the one about the fountain is pretty good too imo
The 4th can still be fun despite its quality drop. The 5th one is just baffling and the character assassination on Jack Sparrow is probably one of the worst.
Yes then she can see what Orlando Bloom as Bard would look like 😂😂 i love that she made the connection without even being familiar with Will (assuming you are correct in that she hasn't seen them)
Totally agree!
@@JonCat.Easily one of the best trilogies I’ve seen.
I love how Smaug is basically a modern update on the classic evil dragon from folklore. Hes not just evil for the sake of evil. He’s a narcissistic psychopath (as Peter Jackson described him), and a very polite one at that.
Also, loved him on Stephen Colbert!
Benedict did an amazing job to catch that.
I need to see a podcast with Smaug.
@@stevendalloesingh Just watch that bit from old Stephen Colbert where Cumberbaqtch reprises his role as Smaug and goes off on a Republican tirad
@@nicksmyth4050 watched the full interview, classic late late interview, dude. Thanks for that reference! Dude was roasting (pun intended) himself and Martin Freeman.
@@stevendalloesingh Such an underrated funny bit
everyone fighting over hobbit being good or bad. Me just loving Bilbo and the dwarves 🙃🥲
The book club causes all the drama.
even though he wasn’t in the books…. Legolas as well 🥰
When it was the first time you saw Legolas bleed, I think it was the first time Legolas saw Legolas bleed too 😂
Legolas, in that moment: "Blood? From ME?? But... I thought I was INVINCIBLE!!" lol
I'm amused by the fact that you can make a good impression on a dragon, by telling it that you're a barrel expert.
No, Bilbo referring to himself as barrel rider told Smaug that they had come from Mirkwood and had met the Elves there. Bilbo is unintentionally giving Smaug information about himself and the dwarves as he's trying to be secretive.
@@HumanoidfrenzzyActually, with the monicker of “Barrel Rider” is that Smaug assumes that the people of Lake Town have something to do with this, so after that hint is that Smaug flies off and begins to attack the town
I love your dogs reaction at the end when you were freaking out . He was so confused . I could watch that over and over again
If you’re visiting the Hobbiton movie set near Matamata in New Zealand you can book the ‘evening dinner tour’. You walk through Hobbiton with the last tour of the day by dusk then have a ginormous fantasy/medieval feast inside the ‘Green Dragon Pub’ with ale and cider and afterwards walk though Hobbiton again by starlight. Such a cool experience!!
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This movie is so good, I’ve been looking forward to your reaction to this movie (literally screamed when I saw u uploaded this video, not joking) because omg it’s so good. I rewatch the hobbit more than the lotr almost entirely because DRAGON, like seriously this is the coolest dragon I’ve seen in any sort of movie or show, idc idc.
And then SO many people hate on Kili and Tauriel but I think they’re so cute. 😭
The movies in this trilogy are my comfort movies, they just make me so happy with the characters and the actors and the vibes and the story just UGH I love it so much. 😭💞
Kili and Tauriel was an even better romance than Aragorn and Arwen was. At least in my opinion, that is. Mostly because Tauriel's actress was freaking BLAZING HOT in that wig, and that makeup! Also, the idea of an Elf and a Dwarf having a romance is so "Romeo and Juliet" that you can't help but love the idea of it. As for the dragon, yeah... Smaug, and basically this entire movie, is the absolute PEAK of this entire trilogy!
@@jacob4920 Fr 😭😭
I love Aragorn and Arwen, something about their relationship is so magical and majestic, and then Kili and Tauriel are almost the complete opposite if that makes any sense. Like instead of unearthly they’re just so cute and sweet and agree 100% that it’s very Romeo and Juliet. I love both relationships but I’d be lying if I said I didn’t like Kili and Tauriel better.
Can’t judge you about Tauriel either, after my obsession with the hobbit I went through and binged a bunch of shows and stuff that Kili’s actor was in. Fell for him IMMEDIATELY. 😭😂
"I am fire! I am... DEATH." That effing gave me chills lol
My armour is like tenfold shields, my teeth are swords, my claws spears, the shock of my tail is a thunderbolt, my wings a hurricane, and my breath death! Such a cold speech and that’s still underrating his power
The cliffhanger was craaaazy when this movie came out. I was so devastated with anticipation, and we also had to wait for a whole year for the end.
Anytime I see people freak out over the ending I remember how I felt au cinema knowing I had a long hard year ahead of me and you all can just watch it right away now!
31:48 «Ed Sheeran, stop your singing!»
He's my favourite singer! 😂😂😂
" I am fire, I am...Death" that has to be one of the most intense lines in this movie
"You're telling me he's a druid." Delightful!
Nay-nay... a GIANT Druid! lol
Beorn is pretty damn tall, even for a humanoid. He towers even over Gandalf, you notice, if you know where to look.
PLEASE watch the extended version of the third one! Is 1000% better then the normal version
Smaug his knowledge is vast, he knew exactly about the ring's nickname and addiction in Ron Weasley's dad's pocket.
When you see the last Hobbit movie, please watch the end credits! Billy Boyd ( Pippin in lotr) has a song called the last goodbye and they play it in the credits, it’s really beautiful❤
I saw both Desolation of Smaug and Battle of Five Armies in theaters, and I loved them both. Anytime I travel on long flights, I watch The Hobbit and LOTR films. They're my favorite films.
Omg when Smaug said his final lines, "I am fire, I am death", gave me fucking chills the first time I watched it, and it still does to this day. Benedict did an absolutely phenomenal job as Smaug 👌 I'm a huge sucker for anyone with a great voice
I found out in April 2013 that I'd had a sister for 23 years I didn't know about. My daddy was a Marine and a mailman, and I guess chicks dig uniforms. Anyway, she loves Lord of the Rings. She's my go-to for book mythology, a personal Silmarillion. We finally got to meet in person at a special IMAX screening of Unexpected Journey before the 12:01am premiere of Smaug. Between that moment in time and Smaug himself and that ending, I can never hate on it. It keeps a special soft spot in my soul. 🐉
The end of this movie is one of the best movie cliff hangers. Looking forward to you watching the finale soon.
I had much more fun watching YOU watch it Ange, than when I originally saw it in the theater!
For one thing, there's your cute puppy, and for another there's you loving the barrel chase (which I had hated due to the over the top CGI).
I look forward to the 5Armies with you...
Elves exist in the unseen realm as well, as brilliant points of light. He was seeing her in her "astral" form much like Frodo saw Arwen (in the movies) and Glorfindel (in the books) as blazing white angels while they could see into the unseen realm
I personally think the first Hobbit movie is pretty great, the second one is a lot of fun to watch, and the third has great moments while being a lot more flawed than the other two. That said, the last entry in this trilogy is probably still going to be very enjoyable for people who don't know the book. I just think that it is a bit weird and forced to make a whole third movie of what is like the last 50 pages in the book. It's like a very thinly veiled cash grab and "let's make it a trilogy again" look to me. I saw it in theaters and was a little bit let down storywise, but it was still a fun movie with great visuals and action. It is still a good movie and not as bad an adaptation as others.
So I'm looking forward your reaction to the third movie, your videos are always great fun to watch! :)
Echoing the extended edition suggestions for the next one! :D I'm so glad you're continuing this!
I love that you loved this movie so much!! I was one of those people who thought this trilogy, especially the conclusion quite mid when I first saw them at the theater. As so many years have passed, my appreciation has grown immensely. After watching yours and others' first time reactions, I now feel the Hobbit trilogy is epic and severely underappreciated. 💘
This movie has one of the most hated cliffhangers ever hahaha.
What I find interesting, is that they changed the race of Azog and Bolg for the films: in the book Azog was the king goblin (a goblin I'm sure of but I might be wrong on the king part) and Bolg was his son
I'll say this for the ending of the "Desolation of Smaug:" That IS one hell of a cliffhanger... lol
At 28:26 Thorin " If this is the end with fire, we should all burn together"... That line is also part of Ed Sheeran- I see fire song's lyrics.. You must listen that song too
I’m so glad you’re going to finish these!!
if you're still tryin to get your LOTR music fix, it's still at radio city music hall today and tomorrow (2/16 and 2/17) with a live orchestra... it's an amazing experience!
Tolkien fans have a love/hate relationship with adaptations of his work. The Peter Jackson Lord Of The Rings is maybe 60-70% of the source material with some pretty significant changes sprinkled in. But it was a great story and fully immersive. Most of us love it! Then they made so much money off the story the studio said we HAVE to do the Hobbit too! PJ didn't want to do them and kinda got sucked into it. He was planning on one move to cover the Hobbit, (It's a fairly small book). But the studios said NO, it has to be 3 movies! In creating a new story that would stretch over 3 movies, many things from the book didn't fit with the new theme and flow. So the fans were expecting ALL of their favorite parts to be in it because they had plenty of time, but what we got was less source material and lots of things that go against Tolkiens writings just so the studios could get a cash grab. If you take the Tolkien out of it, it's a great story though. So we kind of are reluctant, bitter fans. I like it as a fantasy story. But I don't like it as an adaptation of Tolkien.
It goes deep into the whole Dolguldore subplot, in a way the original "Hobbit" never did. Those events actually did happen, but none of it had anything to do with the original book. It was just expansive material, ripped out of its' proper place in the timeline, in order to make the trilogy possible, in the first place. But the parts of the three movies that actually are faithful to the source book are AMAZING, and thus I am way more forgiving of these trespasses than most other fanboys are.
@jacob4920 I agree, the Dolguldore/Necromancer stuff was alluded to in the books, and we know that's where Gandalf went on his "Side Quest" 🙂. But it didn't pertain to the story the Dwarves were part of. I think the biggest thing the fans take issue with is golden boy Legolas. While he wasn't technically in the Hobbit, he would have likely been present for the interaction at the Mirkwood court. And it's possible that he interacted with the company while there. But then they shoe horned in the love triangle, which would have definitely never happened. Even if it made for an interesting storyline in the movies. Also, the LOTR movies really exaggerated his abilities, but the Hobbit movies gifted him abilities that outdo every single other character or race in middle earth. They definitely leaned hard into the already established Legolas fangirl hype as part of the cash grab. And that is, I think, the biggest thing rubbing fans; the clear, unmasked, sticky fingered, cash grab. The LOTRs felt like the studio were also fans, while the Hobbit felt like greedy extortion 😆🤣.
@@toddjackson3136 That may be. It just doesn't bother me as much as it bothers others. Besides, we have "The Rings of Power" series to show us all what a complete middle-finger to Tolkien fans actually looks like. And that goes a long way to helping me forgive "The Hobbit."
@@jacob4920 Absolutely true! And they want to do another season!?
@@toddjackson3136 A cameo by Legolas when the dwarves pass through the woodland realm would have been great, instead what we got was him being made into basically another main character with his story _overshadowing_ the actual story of Bilbo and the dwarves.
It's hinted that gandalf was forced to separate from the dwarves. The ringwraiths had been sent to hunt for the ring even then.
First time seeing Angelina premiering a video!
I loveeeee the hobbit, definitely doesn’t deserve all the hate it gets
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I always find it funny how you keep relating it to D&D since this story is what spawned D&D
Loved watching this when it first came out. Never really bought into the hate for these movies. Are they as good as LOTR? No. But what movies are? The bar is set SO high. These movies are great in their own right.
Honestly I like them just as much. As masterfully done as the LOTR movies are, there are a number of scenes that make sense in the books but really drag the pacing to a halt on screen without adding anything. Don't really get that with The Hobbit.
ill keep it short but i wanna make it clear upfront, i love the hobbit films. i believe most of the additions are improvements. however this is my issue with them:
the way i see it, the book kinda has 3 acts. the first hobbit film fills the first act perfectly imo. from the unexpected party to out the frying pan and into the fire (the eagles), perfect. where it goes from in the films is act 2. which is from queer lodgings (beorn) to barrels out of bound and the 3rd act is from arriving in laketown to the aftermath of the battle of the five armies. theres an argument to be made that the third act ends with smaug and theres a 4th act that deals with the aftermath and the five armies.
i was really disappointed that act 2 in mirkwood was so squashed together to make room for the big cinematic battle in the 3rd film. those chapter in the book are ENCHANTING. heres a list of things that i absolutely adored in the books that were cut entirely from the films. gandalf taking the dwarves 2 by 2 to beorn as to not startle him and bilbo realising the exact same trick was played on him, beorn's gorgeous garden, bilbo hearing the mysterious moonlight meeting of bears under the door and seeing the pawprints the next morning before it's revealed that the beornings (all the bear people) were discussing what to do with the growing goblin and orc problem and whether to help the dwarves more, mirkwoods challenging atmosphere, the critters that seemed to haunt them all along the path and the river that put bombour into a coma when he fell in it, when theyre attacked by the spiders bilbo frees a few dwarves who are too weak to fight off the spiders again so he has them chase his taunting voice into the woods while the strongest dwarves free everyone else. in the films the dwarves leave the path by accident but in the books they run from it when they see the twinkling light of woodelves celebrating the end of summer through to trees, which is how theyre arrested and finally while in the palace bilbo spends days invisibly searching for an escape while stealing tiny rations and living in the shadows.
i was really looking forward to all that but it just was not there. not even mentioning how in the desolation of smaug we don't even see the desolation of smaug, in the book they have to travel through a barren landscape filled with chard and haunting ruins, thats literally what the "desolation" is.
final negative points: the scene where tauriel rubs the plant on kili makes me extremely uncomfortable, i dont have a problem with the romance as a whole, i get the point that it takes up too much time and i definately think its a crying shame that one of the only women in this film is added to end up as a love interest but asside from that i like it, i like that its cheesy, i like that its a thing. my other point is; whys legolas gotta be such a blue eyed dick in the hobbit? it makes no sense that after 2000 years of living he has a complete 180 positive personality shift in 60 years after meeting some unpleasant dwarves from racist facist asshole to a kinda arogant elf whos willing to learn tolerance. makes no sense, why add him if he's not going to act like himself?
all in all, the lord of the rings films was always going to be a rough act to follow. they were lightning in a bottle and i firmly believe no film will ever reach their level. thats why i think the hobbit gets more hate than it deserves.
ok now to end on a positive i'll say why i do actually love these films still. the way bard was turned from this grubby grim guy in the books to the literal folk hero he is in the films is fantastic. he has so much character, hes so amazing. similarly thandril is awesome in the films (as are his eyebrows) such a compelling antagonist, speaking of antagonists, thorin's dragon sickness was PERFECTLY executed. and laketown in the films is so real. i actually didn't realise until after i watched the film just how lacking it is in the book. also the barrel scene is fantastic and so fun. and it goes without saying but martin freemans preformance all the way through is just perfect for bilbo. imo the best portrayal of any of the hobbits in any of the films.
anyway i should stop there because i think i made my past self a liar for saying "keep it short". tldr the hobbit films are amazing, people just don't like them because they want them to be lotr, a feat that is quite frankly; impossible.
I loved the design and actors performance for Smaug.
The reason why Smaug was mad whenever Thorin called him a slug or a worm was because Smaug was actually one of the smallest dragons in Middle Earth, especially when compared to Ancalagon the Black, the largest dragon
finally you dont know how long ive been waiting for this
Literally my reaction when I went with the fam to see this film in theatres and It ends like that! xD
BTW, you should definitely get the EXTENDED EDITION of the next movie. It is WAY better than the original cut.
Nah, the main problem with these movies is too much content. There is a 5 hour super cut of the entire trilogy that only shows scenes from the book that is far superior. So no lovr triangle, Gandalf side quest, or any of the other bloat.
Imagine being in the theater with that ending.then having to wait….
One point: when The Hobbit movies came out they used a new technology for hi-def 64 frames per minute cinematography and it the theaters it looked awful and distracting. That added to having a bad reputation when compared to the cinematic LoTR trilogy look and feel.
It was only 48 fps, which is _less_ than ordinary TV has been for decades at 50/60 (depending on your country). I don't know exactly what they did to fuck up the Hobbit films, but it wasn't that the fps was too high.
I watched this movie before the next one had been released and I remember realizing that I would have to wait after seeing that cliffhanger. Great reaction, excited to see your next one!
Your reaction the ending was everyone’s reaction! It had no right to end where it did
Seeing this in theaters was CRAZY. We had to wait so long for the next one. I personally thought this movie was amazing!!
Yep that ending is such a cliff hanger i remember the audiences reaction in the theater it was just like yours 😅
This one of the first movies I remember seeing in theaters, the feeling in the theatre when it hit the credits is something I’ll never forget. Also having to wait a year to find out what happened was excruciating.
31:27 i love how you go into an instant cocaine withdrawal as soon as the movie ended lmao🤣🤣
finnally... thanks hope u see extendend version of the last soon!!
This is exactly how we reacted to the movies end and we had to wait a YEAR AAAAA.
My favorite part about The Desolation of Smaug is that it ends right before any desolation caused by Smaug.
Hmm I know what u mean but desolation also means something like bleakness. I can‘t really explain it to you in good words bc english isnt my native language haha. The german title is a bit more fitting i guess. Its called „Smaugs Einöde“ which means „Smaugs wasteland“, but I dont find a better translation.
As "spiritloa" said, the "Desolation of Smaug" refers to the once green area that was burnt into a wasteland by Smaug when he first drove the dwarves from the Lonely Mountain and took it over.
That old dworf's grave stone at 21:39 is at Mine's of Moria.. Our fellowship of the rings saw his grave at Lord of the Rings movie..
I loved the reaction to Gloin being Gimlis dad
I love The Hobbit series! It brings in a new story but you catch a lot of things that lead into LOTR.
I think given a lot of the hate is due to how far it strays from the books and lore that its still warranted regardless of the positive parts of the movie
The Hobbit was started as a Children’s Story and it reads that way until you get to the Battle of the Five Armies. The controversy is partly because of Tauriel and the Love Story. When they were filming it in the Chat Rooms I said I didn’t care as long as they didn’t change the ultimate ending. Because the ending was the best part of the book.
Yes, Ang, that's how WE felt, knowing we had to wait a YEAR before the third movie!
But I'm glad to finally get to watch this with you!
Orlando Bloom jokes about the film The Three Musketeers being made just to prove he wasn’t Luke Evans 😂😂
Smaug is by far the best of The Hobbit, cheers from Bolivia, I love you
been WAITING for this 😍
I love when people love The Hobbit. I've been a hobbit defender since day one. Just freaking enjoy yourself, nerds.
Its because it don't match their books, which is understandable. But in the words of the late great Christopher Lee "Its better"
Just like how you enjoy the Hobbit, other people are allowed to dislike it.
@@mrchandlerbong842 that's a wild concept to some people
@@JessieTrainorLVegas I roll my eyes whenever I see this argument. This movie is a bloated mess. If this is cinema you enjoy then I understand how the entertainment industry turned into such shit in the past 20 years.
@@stevenstone307 So basically you're confirming what I had already said. At the end of the day, the entire thing is fictional.
I'd understand if this was some world changing book based on facts that was being changed into a movie, but it's not.
13:40 I thought the exact same thing when I saw that scene.
I personally enjoyed the Hobbit movies. I understand why people don't like them, but as a die-hard book fan i honestly have just as many issues with the LotR trilogy as i do with the Hobbit movies, and yet i can still enjoy both trilogies for what they are rather than what i wish they were. I still hope that one day someone will come along and make a 100% accurate Hobbit/LotR mini-series, but until then i am satisfied with what we got. And considering what we've gotten since then, it really could have been a whole lot worse.
Legolas is not on hobbit book, but they did put him in the movies for connection. He's more aggressive because he's a wood elf, they are like "low key savages" between the elves, as described in the book.
Watching Bilbo talk to Smaug reminds me of "Sherlock" as it's the same actors. Pretty dope series as well if you wanna check it out.
Visit the uk, you have a full medieval banquet at Warwick Castle, medieval dress required.
The reason Gandalf couldn’t remember the names of the other wizards is because they had only licensed “The Hobbit” and “The Lord of The Rings” for the movie. The other wizards names are given in “The Silmarillion” which they hadn’t licensed so couldn’t use.
Did you you know that the white bearded Balin is in the Tomb of the Lord of Moria where the Troll Stabs Frodo? He’s Gloin is Gimli’s father Balin is his Cousin.
ayyyy thanks for the upload, Ange
loved the reaction. and to me its not a bad series of movies. the Hobbit was the first fantasy book i ever read growing up. Some of the main things ppl hate about this trilogy of movies is that they cut out ALOT of stuff from the book. but i can see why they had to or the 3 movies might have been 4-5 movies. and that Evangeline Lilly's character, Tauriel, WASNT in the BOOK. thats the big thing about it. they took so much stuff out,but added a character that truely wasnt needed.
Dog was like you bore me I’m lying down 😂
Pray you never see a film where they depict Ungoliant, the basically mom of every giant spider in the universe
AT LAST! THE HOBBIT❤ IM SO HAPPY FOR THIS🥹🥹
Here’s a thought. Both Frodo’s and Bilbo’s journeys would take the life out of any man, but they’re 2ft tall… so the energy expenditure that they’d have compared to us is wild. So the fact either of them made that journey is extraordinary 👌🏽
I think the theatrical release of the third one definitley has a mid second half but the extended edition doesn't forget the dwarves if you havent watched it yet.
That cliffhanger in the cinema tho... definitely gets paid off
YEY! I love these movies!! And I was the same. I had loved LOTR for 10 years (it's still my favourite thing ever) and getting to come back to that version of middle earth was nothing short of an absolute treat! Do i love absolutely everything about the movies? No...but i think anything small i didn't like was made up for by the fact it was a big Peter Jackson middle earth hug! Seeing Legolas again was an absolute pleasure. He is not in the books, but I'm pretty sure The Hobbit was written before LOTR was fully established with Tolkien..and Thranduil (Legolas' father) is in the book..and he's like 3000 years old it makes absolute sense for him to be there. And honestly..this is gonna come into play more with movie 3 but I'm gonna say it...sure...they added a LOT to these movies...but as someone who as read (and absolutely loves) the book...I think it's highly underestimated how much went into making this work as 3 movies. It is also very clearly now for an audience that has seen The Lord of the Rings movies and they take advantage of that. There are of course book/lore appendices which..the film makers know much better than I do...so incorporating events that happened around that time even if not in the book I think was smart. We as LOTR viewers are familiar with Sauron and the ring. Adding that looming threat helps that connection, gives more weight and reason to the future battle. Characters in the movie actually have..yknow...a personality (looking at Bard and 90% of the dwarves), Azog gives Thorin a deeper arc. The book is purely from Bilbo's POV and it's a gorgeous lovely hilarious book but that just doesn't work as well on screen i think they did great. I don't love the love triangle..i don't particularly love Kili and Tauriel...but Kili having his own arc adds weight to his story and I appreciate the effort of adding a new badass female character where there is so few. Having Smaug and the dwarves have a proper confrontation to add some action and to show off the absolute beauty that is Smaug makes total. Ties the dwarves in a little more and not just Smaug having a tantrum over a cup going missing and going off to burn a town 😂. Anyway I'll stop fawning now. Excited for movie 3!
Benedict Cumberbatch's performance as Smaug is definitely a high point, he totally nailed the character. Best dragon I can think of in films. The big fight scene was awful though, was a terrible scene in general, he's a damn _dragon,_ there is a very good reason why in the book they _didn't_ fight him at all, let alone trying to kill a _dragon_ using _fire._ 🤦 Not to mention probably the worst CG job I've _ever_ seen on the molten gold.
And they made _far_ too much of Legolas, Orlando Bloom having a cameo like Ian Holm and Elijah Wood did in the first one would have been great but instead they basically made him another main character. He has a significantly _bigger_ part than most of the dwarves! 😡
I've been waiting for thisssss 🎉🎉❤
I think these are good movies, but i have always loved Bilbos story more then Frodos. However the translation from the book isn't quite as flawless in this instance, I like Bilbos adventure better because its more light hearted but still deep and Biblo is the clever protagonist that has read all about the things he's doing but never actually done any of them. It grounds Bilbo in an extremely relatable way to the reader. In the case of this movie I think the changes that where made are a bit more unnecessary. Like in the books Bilbo tries to pickpocket the trolls as burglar practice, as he isn't really a burglar and feels he should get some experience before steeling from a dragon. The orcs hunting Thoren, the Sauron returning plot,Bilbo being influenced by the ring none of that was in the book. So i think a lot of reason the movie gets hate is 1 the cgi and 2 the changes from the book that felt unnecessary to they could fit in the other sub plots.
Having said all that, i do like these movies. i just feel the LOTR movies where better representations of the books. all my opinion tho
I had to get my Ange fix in for today. Much better now. I laughed and removed that work scrunch you get right in the middle of your eye browse.
As a lifelong Tolkien fan (read the books over and over as a kid, was on "cloud 9" when the Peter Jackson films started being released when I was a college freshman) I love your reviews of the LOTR and Hobbit movies! As for what it is with Tolkien and spiders, Tolkien was extremely arachnophobic, so giant spiders were the most horrifying creature he could imagine and they featured in both "The Hobbit" and "Lord of the Rings" for that reason.
I think the hate towards the Hobbit movies is because they are a bit more "light hearted" than LOTR and a lot of movie franchises were going through changeups as to how they're developed, but I don't think people appreciated the humor. That being said I've heard the Hobbit book is actually children's book and LOTR was intended to be more mature as the readers were older by that stage so these complaints are kinda ironic.
Also there is some changes to the source material which always does bring some controversy like Legolas who wasn't in the Hobbit books who, while a welcome addition, is deemed as "fan-service" that isn't needed. Some new characters added are also considered underdeveloped and I say more to avoid spoilers.
I think it was a situation where changes conflicted with the changing times since I've seen more people appreciating these movies in recent years than when they first came out.
One of my favorite board games was LOTR themed RISK game which came with 'the one ring'! Often played it with my kids!
I've heard some people trash this trilogy but I love it. It's a fun adventure and lets me spend more time in Middle Earth. I'll never complain about that!
Awesome reaction of my favorite The Hobbit movie!!!!!!!!!😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊
I was wondering when you were gonna watch the next Hobbit movie!
Please Ange, please, do NOT EVER watch "Rings of Power" for any reason. If you have the slightest sparkle of love for Peter's Jackson's work, completly ignore what Amazon did. It was a massacre.
Smog the golden seems very impressive and powerful in this movie, and he is the largest of the fire drakes left in middle earth. However, in comparison to the first fire, drake Ancalagon the black. Smog the gold is not all that impressive. Smog fits and lives inside the mountain. Ancalagon the black would be as big as the mountain itself. I have read somewhere that from the tip of his tail to his nose. He is 10 miles long. When you compare the two he makes smog the golden look insignificant. Now that’s a very scary thought.
ok but imagine being a 13 lil boy when this movie released, watching the end and then being forced to leave the cinema not knowing when the next movie will come out. That cliffhanger killed me
Editor “You don’t me for that just do it lol”
Think ya missed a word there editor 😂❤ 3:15
These movie's biggest issue is that they spend so much time setting up for Lord of the Rings, that they miss the whole point of Bilbo not being the big hero. He's not the hero of the story, he's the main character, but not the hero.
Lol I'd love an update video if you ever get the chance to read the book. The Hobbit movies are alright on their own it's when you compare them to the books that they completely fall apart.