Route and location play such a significant role. Urban riding takes tons of time due to stop lights. I live in a city so lights are major factor. Second big hit is changing batteries on GoPro which use as defense while riding. I'd say for a 40 mi ride 8-12 min are spent on traffic lights. >3 min on battery changes per change.
It's location, location, location. On a small island like Oahu, impossible. Though while I lived in Denver with their amazing bike trails, a long fun time. :)
Very entertaining concept! Maybe try it in a more remote area without traffic? Then, it would really be about physical endurance and not just the circumstances.
I think that was the point though. Making people feel better, who struggle to achieve the averages they hear all the time; showing you can just blame it on circumstances.
Really enjoyed this. Last year I did a sub 5hr (elapsed time) imperial century which was extra special because it was with my Dad on my wheel. He's 62, we wanted to see if we could still get him his fastest ever 100 mile ride even after ~50 years of riding bikes. Took some route planning to avoid all these issues like city/stop start traffic, lots of lights/junctions etc and needed to be flat for the draft but we managed it! 176.33km in 5:26:19 so an average speed of 32.42kph, admittedly I was slave driver and no cafe stops were allowed... I think we both had fun. Great video Conor and Hank
I figure if I try to keep my average high, I have to compromise on safety. With all the stops and hazards out there and with so many pedestrians and drivers distracted by texting, it is all I can do to keep my in-town average around 20kph.
I don’t give them a choice I make my presence known even if it’s to annoy them Atleast they know I’m there Generally getting around the city at 30-35kmh, race the occasional car between lights doing 50kmh 😂
Did 165k this year in a total time of just over 5:29h (moving time 5:13:xx). I tried to get an average of 32kph (moving time) but after 3.5h I REALLY felt my legs 😂
getting an average speed on a bicycle is super hard because the speedometers for them count when the bike is rolling slowly and not moving for a second.
You two are a hilarious pair. Every time you mention your average speed I'm totally with you and reminiscing about telling my wife that I shaved something like 2 minutes off a 50 mile loop I frequently ride with such pride and enthusiasm to get a response like "and you are mowing the lawn when?" During the closing remarks you can see why Hank has an advantage standing next to Connor in his sort of fake tri-bar pose while Hank is standing straight up talking to each other eye to eye.
Watching you guys rip around your local roads scares the he’ll out of me. No shoulders, narrow, and usually wet. All three things that I actively avoid. Please stay safe!
Conor rocking an unaero bar bag and then complaining that he can’t hang on at 30 kph. Somebody please give the giant leprechaun a bento bag for his snacks.
I’m down in south Texas, flat, featureless, and it can get windy at times..my most recent ride according to my Strava was 54.5 miles (87.7km) I averaged 16.9mph (27.1) in 3hr-13min. Winds were 7-10mph.
That's very strong 16.9mph in 55miles. With winds of 7-10 you're pushing 200watts avg easily for that duration. I have similar wind conditions during my weekday afternoon rides amd pushing 17mph average I have to push 210watts
Oh my god.. I think that's the most amount of traffic I've seen behind you guys. Looks like not the best choice of road to ride. I'd be stressed so much about the cars.
@@arunotpalHaha, I've been to India multiple times. To New Delhi, Kolkata, Bengaluru, etc. For sure the most impressive traffic I've ever seen in my life!
I recently completed a solo century ride of 101 kms with my highest average till date of 29.2 kmph and an elevation gain of 278 m. This was with moderate to heavy traffic for the last 30kms of the ride. This was the first time I was able to maintain such speeds for more than 30-40kms and I am proud of this achievement 🙂🙃
@@user-yx1qk4sk5t I took a 1 minute break to reply to a text and stopped at traffic, otherwise all electrolytes and a GU were consumed while on the move
@@gcn I am ABSOLUTELY HONOURED to get a reply from you. I love your content for many reasons, not only are you guys hilariously entertaining, but also quite informative. As we all know one's pace on a ride is dictated by a variety of factors and I think I just got lucky on the day before yesterday, because my fitness and riding level is nowhere near what you guys can do. Keep on doing what you guys do, you brighten many a people's day with your work 🙂🙃
Just watching the traffic you guys deal with. I did a 40 Km ride yesterday morning, and was passed by a total of four cars, and a few in the opposite direction. Only 24km/h average, but being an old fart contributes to that. Having any number of good riding options maintains enthusiasm for riding, so I count myself lucky.
This just proves that route planning is critical. You need to plan a route without difficult junctions, probably something with plenty of small country roads. If you look at RTTC courses they are planned with junctions in mind. If you want an RTTC route that is in a loop shape, then you have the courses for the 12 hour and 24 hour time trailing.
I have never reached 30km/h average since I began to ride my first ever road bike since 2022. I feel like I need to be in a velodrome, as traffic, signs, stops, crossroads and even wind ( everything but my stamina ofc :D) are against me to be able to reach 30km/h average over a 30-50km course. My top was 28km/h on a ~30km A to B so far when everything came together, on a bank holiday, country road, no traffic, good backwind, etc.
give it one more year of training and experience, maybe base training on a roller over winter (or using every dry day for a short base level round), maybe upgrade tires and position and 30km/h will fall next year. Started cycling in 2019 and needed till the end of summer 2020 to post a >30km/h ride... with the whole Covid-Lockdown time with only Cardio-training (running or cycling). A known route, fresh legs, the spirit to power through and a clean bike need to come together to do this for a first. Oh and having a headwind for uphill and woods and tailwind for open flat roads helps as well ;-)
I looked into the data of my last sportive and the answer is just short of 2hrs (but without traffic lights on closed roads). For the first 45min I had 39kph. On the flat. The Tour de France is absolutely bonkers.
Fun video guys! This also highlights why I still haven’t been out training since moving to UK. The roads are awful. Super narrow and overcrowded. You have constant traffic tailing after you, while navigating a million potholes. Kudos to you guys for maintaining speed for that long in UK!
I can maintain 30 kph on my triathlon training ride for 40kms... that's olympic tri bike distance. At 62 years old, I consider that damn good. You guys I thought would do better but you have so many factors slowing you down tho... traffic, weather, hilly course. whereas I'm out at sunrise on a straight, low rolling hill course.
In June I was curious how fast can I ride 100km solo. It was Sunday morning, weather was perfect, not much wind, route didn't have a single traffic light. I did it in 3 hours 18 minutes (elapsed time). I fueled very well and felt fresh afterwards, went for an mtb ride with a friend in the afternoon
Are you in Britain? If so, I love the fact that you measure distance and speed in metric!!! I live in England, and switched to metric speeds in Dec 2022. So far not many have followed suit; why do Brits cling on to miles so desperately?!
I’ve taken the train out of the city to the mountains to try to get the longest possible downhill & downwind ride I could do. Still tough keeping up over 30km/hr always by myself.
My best solo's: 310km at 31 av on road. 150km at 30 av on technical gravel. 140km at 33 av on normal gravel. 60km at 37,5 av on road. 145km at 35 av on road.
Believe me, it's one of the biggest challenges on a Handcycle especially for the beginners. But I'm really trying my best to maintain and improve the average speed. It really matters. I hit once 30 KM on Handcycle for almost an hour. And it was pretty good.❤
I love these challenges anyone can set for themselves. I recommend instead of a "grace minute" pick a clear route, do a sane warmup and maybe pick a starting point outside a dense urban area. Think TT. Keep it smooth. I set out on a threshold ride in October which, because I was feeling so good, turned into a bona fide FTP test and PB: 45km in 1:25hr for 31.4kph Then I challenged myself to an under 6hr century on a relatively flat route. 163.62km in 5:57:08 for an average speed of 27.5kph. fwiw I'm 52 and these rides were solo recorded in the only timing that means anything - elapsed time.
I managed a year. I set it as a target (new years resolution), and Strava tracked my average speed for the year. It included over 10,000km of commuting from Kinvara to Galway.
Traffic lights are more doomful than elevation... 54km with 500m ascent is... flat-ish... Don't forget if it's a real hill, the downhill part will negate most of the time loss during the uphill. My solo ride has similar avg speed or even a little bit higher if I really push it. It's about 25km city-ish roads with traffic lights, with accumulated 200m something elevation to get to the nearest "climb", then climb the 300m hill, rest and go back. If you count all the stops, it will be nowhere near that speed.
We have a flat 24km road to the airport with about 0.3% total incline, pretty easy to hold your average speed above 30km/h on your way there and back due to a complete lack of traffic lights and etc.
Last time I was near that Bath Gin Bar where you outlined the task we certainly weren't capable of riding 30 mph.....one double gin led to another and another and anugger, gr8 evenin'!!
This is why my commute through Tokyo was always 16kph average no matter what bike I was on. Its traffic lights that dictate all speed where most people in the real world are.
I found this commuting in London. Can bang on, on my road bike at full pelt and knock just a few minutes off a 16km commute compared to going at a more normal, relaxed pace on my hybrid.
I am a fairly good cyclist, I can do 32km/h over 180km distance, in a race course, non traffic.... I did commute to work and tried hard to go fast, race from red light to red light and the max average I could get was like 24 km/h, I dont train in city anymore....
If u learn to track stand u can get up to speed faster when the light turns green. Biggest problem with road enthusiasts in my area is they're so slow off the line.
Calling it at the start without looking at spoilers for comments: The first one to drop the pace is going to be the one with the giant bar bag hitting all the wind. What would Ollie say?
My state in the USA has a paved bike trail that is 326 miles / 524 kilometers long so it's fairly easy for me to maintain 18.6mph / 30kph for the entire duration of my rides on that trail (generally I go for 45min to 3hrs.) There are road crossings with stop signs and groups of walkers / slower riders that sometimes take up the entire width of the trail which slows me down occasionally but overall, you're able to just keep going without stopping on that trail. Elevation is minimal which is in a way a downside for me... it's rolling terrain with only about an average of 500 feet / 150 meters of elevation per hour of riding I'd say.
Good on ya' boyz, my days of 30kph are gone except on very GOOD days. Managed a 18.3mph for 21 miles the other day but usually I am down in the 17's. I am 59 now so you boyz have some time.
Great video top work, one assumes if you were to repeat this on Zwift it would much easier. How about a series of inter presenter challenges and a league table and then a crown winner?
A long time, my general average riding speeds are around 30kph, and can be quite a bit quicker if just out for an hours blast. Saturday club rides every week are about this speed over 120-130km distance. Have done many 100 mile rides at 30kph or over. Longest ever single day ride was 350km miles across the country at 28.5kph, and that was with a small headwind the entire way.
I manage 30kph avg on about one and a half hour ride in Jakarta city which features dodging incredible traffic, stop lights and to compensate crazy acceleration and banging it down the straights at 40-50kph to get to this 30kph
This is a great illustration why aggressive driving in a city makes no difference to how fast you arrive at your destination. A study was done in Toronto where aggressive and passive drivers circumnavigated the city in a loop. No difference in elapsed total speed but aggressive drivers dramatically increased risk to themselves other drivers and pedestrians (Toronto had a problem at the time with pedestrian traffic deaths). Why is this so? Because at a stoplight your speed goes to zero making average speeds low no matter how fast you drive in between.
Surprised how hard it was maybe location is hard with all the delays. Excellent video. I do often little under 50km routes with 30 km/h average speed but have never look if how average speed is during route. This did make curious and next time will be checking my average during the ride.
There are few factors like whether you start in a city or start the ride out of the city, whether you make the trip one way (tailwind is huge factor) or going in both directions, whether you drive in a group, rotating with the fellows in front. However I think that almost 100% of the riders in Strava use auto stop option on their bike comp or phone making 30km/h quite possible for up to 100km ride.
@@sleepdeprived9181 Looking at WvA riding a whole TdF stage solo or a Nils Politt bringing back a group on his own over the course of 40km, I have my doubts. A lot of the rolleurs are bigger than climbers or GC contenders.
Fun video! I've been trying to averge 30km/h on my commute to work (12.5km/250m elevation) and I can only average 26km/h. Wish I had a Conor or Hank to encourage me on my commute!
Living in a city centre this is like every ride for me. Where is Olly to tell us how much quicker Connor would have been without that parachute on the front of his bike?
Urban riding is why I don’t worry about speed much (except to the extent of being able to blend with traffic as needed). It’s too much stop-start for anything else, at least without exceeding my risk tolerance.
Did a 200km ride in 5:58 in traffic a couple of weeks back. The whole thing is about where you ride - not much about how good a rider you are once you have a bit of endurance
Elapsed time was a daft metric, especially in town. 30kph assuming rolling terrain without long climbs and without excessive wind is easy all day pace. We've gone 300km+ with a mixed group of 5 of very different abilities. Hot Australian summer's day and a bit windy at times, plus a few climbs but nothing over 10mins.
We wanted to do a 600km ride but we know we couldn't make it at time so we decide to stop at 410 km, but we did an average of just above 30 km/h. We had almost whole day headwind and we planned it almost to perfection with the route, not allot of stops and cities where we needed to get thru.
I get into road bike cycling in the middle of this year, started at an average of 23.5km/h. Now I can regularly do 27-28km/h, but if i try to cruise at 30k for longer than 2km, my heart rate will easily go above 165...
My best times road cycling through the city of Utrecht with my Merida Reacto, from Woerden to Zeist 38 km in 1:13 hours average speed 31 km per hour. 39km in 1:17 hours average speed 30km per hour. Fortunately I am not heavy between 58/60 kg, but cycling with a roadbike through the city is too dangerous for me, mostly I avoid the city go around for a detour to make a longer enjoyable countryside trip to my destination. You better need a mountain bike with big tires and suspension in the busy city so you can cycling through the obstacles 😅
You guys need to get further from town. Our local club rides routinely average 17-18 mph, and we're rarely sprinting. Long roads with little traffic and few intersections are the key.
It's a misnomer that double white lines means no overtaking ever, you're allowed to overtake very slow vehicles (such as bikes going uphill, milkfloats, etc). "You may cross the line if necessary, provided the road is clear, to pass a stationary vehicle, or overtake a pedal cycle, horse, or road maintenance vehicle, if they are traveling at 10 mph (16 km/h) or less]."
@@kanraku6129 129 Double white lines where the line nearest you is solid. This means you MUST NOT cross or straddle it unless it is safe and you need to enter adjoining premises or a side road. You may cross the line if necessary, provided the road is clear, to pass a stationary vehicle, or overtake a pedal cycle, horse or road maintenance vehicle, if they are travelling at 10 mph (16 km/h) or less. Laws RTA 1988 sect 36 & TSRGD regs 10 & 26 130 There is oncoming traffic. There are hatchings on the other side of the white lines. It is on a corner.
I feel better after this video. I tried multiple times with a faster friend to do a public organized 100 mile ride in sub 5 hours. (Sub 5 century). Seems doable, but after multiple attempts we could not ever actually get it done. Came close, but nope. It was always the climbing, or stop-lights that would kill us, but hey we celebrated our defeat with a cold brew and smiled about it.
You guys are so fit! I wondered the same thing and did a lot of testing for myself. What I found is if you enable auto-pause, then 30K/h is achievable even in city environment. It will be a race-like effort, you sprint to 40K+ at every traffic light, draft cars or scooters as many as long as you can, the only thing is when you see a red light ahead, in real world riding you'll just cruise instead of keep pushing then do a hard stop, that will bring down the speed a little, then when you back home it could be around 30kph. But counting the coffee stops??? Not stop the watch??? Well... That's another level... Well done! Really enjoyed it!
Auto pause would have made it relatively easy for these guys. It is surprising however, how slow the average gets with relatively few slow periods (like traffic).
An opinion that's bound to ruffle a few feathers: traffic lights in our cities, the vast majority of which were installed with the priority requirement to regulate automobile traffic, unnecessarily slow cycle traffic and cycle users should be able to legally ignore them if it is safe to do so. This is all but the case in this country for pedestrians who are extremely unlikely to be prosecuted or judged unfavourably by others for crossing a pelican crossing on the red man if there are no cars coming. In the longer term we should be moving the regulation of all traffic in our cities towards one based on road users making decisions based on critical thinking and the hierarchy of road users. Not creating heavily restrictive "hurry up and wait" systems which incentivise the breaking/flouting of rules.
That's really pointing out some flaws in the averaging . Assuming they're both following the same route, and are in the same place, their average speeds have to be the same if it's a true average (total time, not rolling time)
I saw this in a movie about a bus that had to SPEED around a city, keeping its SPEED over fifty, and if its SPEED dropped, it would explode! I think it was called, 'The Bus That Couldn't Slow Down.'
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How long could you hold 30kph?
one hour, which is 30km
Route and location play such a significant role. Urban riding takes tons of time due to stop lights. I live in a city so lights are major factor. Second big hit is changing batteries on GoPro which use as defense while riding. I'd say for a 40 mi ride 8-12 min are spent on traffic lights. >3 min on battery changes per change.
400m 😂 but I have a fitness bike. If I can make excuses? 🤔
It's location, location, location. On a small island like Oahu, impossible. Though while I lived in Denver with their amazing bike trails, a long fun time. :)
Usually about 50-60km, but with low elevation gain only about 600-700m.
Very entertaining concept! Maybe try it in a more remote area without traffic? Then, it would really be about physical endurance and not just the circumstances.
I think that was the point though. Making people feel better, who struggle to achieve the averages they hear all the time; showing you can just blame it on circumstances.
That's why I got 80ks 😂 but my legs let me down at the end
Really enjoyed this. Last year I did a sub 5hr (elapsed time) imperial century which was extra special because it was with my Dad on my wheel. He's 62, we wanted to see if we could still get him his fastest ever 100 mile ride even after ~50 years of riding bikes. Took some route planning to avoid all these issues like city/stop start traffic, lots of lights/junctions etc and needed to be flat for the draft but we managed it! 176.33km in 5:26:19 so an average speed of 32.42kph, admittedly I was slave driver and no cafe stops were allowed... I think we both had fun. Great video Conor and Hank
I figure if I try to keep my average high, I have to compromise on safety. With all the stops and hazards out there and with so many pedestrians and drivers distracted by texting, it is all I can do to keep my in-town average around 20kph.
I don’t give them a choice
I make my presence known even if it’s to annoy them
Atleast they know I’m there
Generally getting around the city at 30-35kmh, race the occasional car between lights doing 50kmh 😂
As we know in the city it's all ways pain .unclip the pedals.on and off . Mind you best time ride is early early 🍺
20kph in city is pretty damn good
On a good day, that's my average too. It often dips down to 16km depending upon traffic lights and traffic.
Staying safe should always be number 1 priority average speeds aren't the be all and end all of cycling 🙌
How flat and how much wind? Make BIG difference. 😂
It was an espresso
@@rident no time for a flat white!
How much Nutella, honey and energy gel did you eat after the breakfast is important too.
Not putting a parachute on your handlebars might help, too…
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Did 165k this year in a total time of just over 5:29h (moving time 5:13:xx). I tried to get an average of 32kph (moving time) but after 3.5h I REALLY felt my legs 😂
getting an average speed on a bicycle is super hard because the speedometers for them count when the bike is rolling slowly and not moving for a second.
Hahahaha yep it comes to hit you after a while! That is an amazing time! 🙌
That's pretty wicked
You two are a hilarious pair. Every time you mention your average speed I'm totally with you and reminiscing about telling my wife that I shaved something like 2 minutes off a 50 mile loop I frequently ride with such pride and enthusiasm to get a response like "and you are mowing the lawn when?" During the closing remarks you can see why Hank has an advantage standing next to Connor in his sort of fake tri-bar pose while Hank is standing straight up talking to each other eye to eye.
Watching you guys rip around your local roads scares the he’ll out of me. No shoulders, narrow, and usually wet. All three things that I actively avoid. Please stay safe!
The fastest finisher at this year's Paris-Brest-Paris averaged 29.19 kph for 1219 kilometers...this helps illustrate just how remarkable that was.
Probably moving speed not elapsed avg speed?
Conor rocking an unaero bar bag and then complaining that he can’t hang on at 30 kph.
Somebody please give the giant leprechaun a bento bag for his snacks.
Ollie wouldn't be impressed! Especially as he did a whole video about it!👉ruclips.net/video/wdzchfqXHqQ/видео.html
Great video for bike tourists. We never make the daily kilometers we planned and now after the video I don't feel bad. Thanks Mates!
I’m down in south Texas, flat, featureless, and it can get windy at times..my most recent ride according to my Strava was 54.5 miles (87.7km) I averaged 16.9mph (27.1) in 3hr-13min. Winds were 7-10mph.
That's very strong 16.9mph in 55miles. With winds of 7-10 you're pushing 200watts avg easily for that duration. I have similar wind conditions during my weekday afternoon rides amd pushing 17mph average I have to push 210watts
Oh my god.. I think that's the most amount of traffic I've seen behind you guys. Looks like not the best choice of road to ride. I'd be stressed so much about the cars.
It's a very busy A36 road, one of the main routes out of Bath. I am local to Bath and I never ride there as it's neither safe nor enjoyable.
Sharing the line with a huge lorry...Too dangerous, or at least not safe... I'm a cyclist and a driver, so I can see both sides...
You should see the traffic in India. This looks like Sunday traffic to me.
@@arunotpalHaha, I've been to India multiple times. To New Delhi, Kolkata, Bengaluru, etc. For sure the most impressive traffic I've ever seen in my life!
Wow, the way you guys do that, it's insane!! Big fann
Loved the “Gin Bar” sign in the background at the beginning of the video. What a great place to start (or end) a ride.
That climb up the A36 is savage, never mind Midford! Strong work guys!!
I recently completed a solo century ride of 101 kms with my highest average till date of 29.2 kmph and an elevation gain of 278 m. This was with moderate to heavy traffic for the last 30kms of the ride. This was the first time I was able to maintain such speeds for more than 30-40kms and I am proud of this achievement 🙂🙃
I did almost something similar last year. 29.2kmh, 100 km and 410 elevation gain. Granted, I had to take 2 quick break to refill my water bottles.
@@user-yx1qk4sk5t I took a 1 minute break to reply to a text and stopped at traffic, otherwise all electrolytes and a GU were consumed while on the move
Very Impressive! Absolutely smashed our effort!
@@gcn I am ABSOLUTELY HONOURED to get a reply from you. I love your content for many reasons, not only are you guys hilariously entertaining, but also quite informative.
As we all know one's pace on a ride is dictated by a variety of factors and I think I just got lucky on the day before yesterday, because my fitness and riding level is nowhere near what you guys can do.
Keep on doing what you guys do, you brighten many a people's day with your work 🙂🙃
162.5 km avg 30.5k o with 906m in May or 101 miles avg 19.1mph 2974ft elevation pleased with that at 51 years old..
Just watching the traffic you guys deal with. I did a 40 Km ride yesterday morning, and was passed by a total of four cars, and a few in the opposite direction. Only 24km/h average, but being an old fart contributes to that. Having any number of good riding options maintains enthusiasm for riding, so I count myself lucky.
This just proves that route planning is critical.
You need to plan a route without difficult junctions, probably something with plenty of small country roads.
If you look at RTTC courses they are planned with junctions in mind. If you want an RTTC route that is in a loop shape, then you have the courses for the 12 hour and 24 hour time trailing.
That aero bag definitely helped 😀
Great fun, Hank keeping 30 kph with a coffee stop, seeing Connor in front and still beating him, great fun as always x
Coffee stop was 100% needed aswell!☕
never cycle without one 😆@@gcn
Crap week for me left me seriously depressed but this video made me smile.
Route choice is very important. I did 2h something nonstop above 30kph, but I had to keep going around the same roads
Audio quality on those lapel mics outdoors is excellent! Great work sound guys 👍🏻
I have never reached 30km/h average since I began to ride my first ever road bike since 2022. I feel like I need to be in a velodrome, as traffic, signs, stops, crossroads and even wind ( everything but my stamina ofc :D) are against me to be able to reach 30km/h average over a 30-50km course. My top was 28km/h on a ~30km A to B so far when everything came together, on a bank holiday, country road, no traffic, good backwind, etc.
give it one more year of training and experience, maybe base training on a roller over winter (or using every dry day for a short base level round), maybe upgrade tires and position and 30km/h will fall next year.
Started cycling in 2019 and needed till the end of summer 2020 to post a >30km/h ride... with the whole Covid-Lockdown time with only Cardio-training (running or cycling). A known route, fresh legs, the spirit to power through and a clean bike need to come together to do this for a first. Oh and having a headwind for uphill and woods and tailwind for open flat roads helps as well ;-)
Wait for me !!!! hank......... I'm back from the brink! .... you guys always put a smile on my face.
They sure are a great duo! you can see more of them here👉ruclips.net/video/uebHp5Efs0k/видео.html
Connor is trying to go as fast as he can and he has his bloody bar bag on!! 😂
I looked into the data of my last sportive and the answer is just short of 2hrs (but without traffic lights on closed roads). For the first 45min I had 39kph. On the flat. The Tour de France is absolutely bonkers.
Many recent videos feature Arc de Soleli tracks. Whoever puts these in, YOU SIR/MADAM ARE A LEGEND!
Fun video guys! This also highlights why I still haven’t been out training since moving to UK. The roads are awful. Super narrow and overcrowded. You have constant traffic tailing after you, while navigating a million potholes. Kudos to you guys for maintaining speed for that long in UK!
I can maintain 30 kph on my triathlon training ride for 40kms... that's olympic tri bike distance. At 62 years old, I consider that damn good. You guys I thought would do better but you have so many factors slowing you down tho... traffic, weather, hilly course. whereas I'm out at sunrise on a straight, low rolling hill course.
Connor’s so fast he needed that handlebar bag to slow him down enough to get that average speed of 30k
Connor shouting „Hank!!!“ is the GCN version of Clarkson shouting „Hammond!“ at Top Gear.
Who is the James May of our presenters👀
@@gcn That can only be Ollie
I am going to try a 30 kph average speed ride right now. Thank you for the video
18.4 MPH average speed, 25 miles, 464 vertical feet, by myself. I am 55 years old.
In June I was curious how fast can I ride 100km solo. It was Sunday morning, weather was perfect, not much wind, route didn't have a single traffic light. I did it in 3 hours 18 minutes (elapsed time). I fueled very well and felt fresh afterwards, went for an mtb ride with a friend in the afternoon
Those roads look so dangerous. So much traffic and no shoulder. Aaaargh!
I’ve did a 100.8km ride in 3:19 in 2022. Much quieter roads though. I spent just over a minute stopped. It was my fastest metric IRL century.
Are you in Britain? If so, I love the fact that you measure distance and speed in metric!!! I live in England, and switched to metric speeds in Dec 2022. So far not many have followed suit; why do Brits cling on to miles so desperately?!
I’ve taken the train out of the city to the mountains to try to get the longest possible downhill & downwind ride I could do. Still tough keeping up over 30km/hr always by myself.
My best solo's:
310km at 31 av on road.
150km at 30 av on technical gravel.
140km at 33 av on normal gravel.
60km at 37,5 av on road.
145km at 35 av on road.
Believe me, it's one of the biggest challenges on a Handcycle especially for the beginners. But I'm really trying my best to maintain and improve the average speed. It really matters. I hit once 30 KM on Handcycle for almost an hour. And it was pretty good.❤
Awesome! Keep it up!
I love these challenges anyone can set for themselves. I recommend instead of a "grace minute" pick a clear route, do a sane warmup and maybe pick a starting point outside a dense urban area. Think TT. Keep it smooth.
I set out on a threshold ride in October which, because I was feeling so good, turned into a bona fide FTP test and PB: 45km in 1:25hr for 31.4kph
Then I challenged myself to an under 6hr century on a relatively flat route. 163.62km in 5:57:08 for an average speed of 27.5kph.
fwiw I'm 52 and these rides were solo recorded in the only timing that means anything - elapsed time.
I managed a year. I set it as a target (new years resolution), and Strava tracked my average speed for the year. It included over 10,000km of commuting from Kinvara to Galway.
Would be good to see the Strava data to see the elevation etc. my group ride is ~54km at 27kmh average but with ~575m of ascent.
My general solo ride that I do with climbing has similar ascent and distance. I'm usually averaging 24-26 kph. Steepest sections are about 11%
Traffic lights are more doomful than elevation... 54km with 500m ascent is... flat-ish... Don't forget if it's a real hill, the downhill part will negate most of the time loss during the uphill. My solo ride has similar avg speed or even a little bit higher if I really push it. It's about 25km city-ish roads with traffic lights, with accumulated 200m something elevation to get to the nearest "climb", then climb the 300m hill, rest and go back. If you count all the stops, it will be nowhere near that speed.
55 years old , on flat, no wind at all and a Camelback water supplier on my chest. 28 km distance, 37,2 km an hour an average speed
We have a flat 24km road to the airport with about 0.3% total incline, pretty easy to hold your average speed above 30km/h on your way there and back due to a complete lack of traffic lights and etc.
Last time I was near that Bath Gin Bar where you outlined the task we certainly weren't capable of riding 30 mph.....one double gin led to another and another and anugger, gr8 evenin'!!
This is why my commute through Tokyo was always 16kph average no matter what bike I was on. Its traffic lights that dictate all speed where most people in the real world are.
I found this commuting in London. Can bang on, on my road bike at full pelt and knock just a few minutes off a 16km commute compared to going at a more normal, relaxed pace on my hybrid.
13:07 there are no speed limits on your bike, Hank (at least not in the UK)!
I am a fairly good cyclist, I can do 32km/h over 180km distance, in a race course, non traffic.... I did commute to work and tried hard to go fast, race from red light to red light and the max average I could get was like 24 km/h, I dont train in city anymore....
If u learn to track stand u can get up to speed faster when the light turns green. Biggest problem with road enthusiasts in my area is they're so slow off the line.
Calling it at the start without looking at spoilers for comments: The first one to drop the pace is going to be the one with the giant bar bag hitting all the wind. What would Ollie say?
Yep, Immense respects for all the Tour de France riders :) Super fun video :)
My state in the USA has a paved bike trail that is 326 miles / 524 kilometers long so it's fairly easy for me to maintain 18.6mph / 30kph for the entire duration of my rides on that trail (generally I go for 45min to 3hrs.) There are road crossings with stop signs and groups of walkers / slower riders that sometimes take up the entire width of the trail which slows me down occasionally but overall, you're able to just keep going without stopping on that trail. Elevation is minimal which is in a way a downside for me... it's rolling terrain with only about an average of 500 feet / 150 meters of elevation per hour of riding I'd say.
That sounds like the perfect trail to us!
Good on ya' boyz, my days of 30kph are gone except on very GOOD days. Managed a 18.3mph for 21 miles the other day but usually I am down in the 17's. I am 59 now so you boyz have some time.
Hank is a beast
Great video top work, one assumes if you were to repeat this on Zwift it would much easier.
How about a series of inter presenter challenges and a league table and then a crown winner?
Did 52km solo ride today, 460m elevation at just over 30kmh. Really cold in the UK now though
It's not cold today but windy lol
Good fun video. Thank you again. Why are you both wearing black in low light autumn? You must be nearly invisible at times to other road users.
A long time, my general average riding speeds are around 30kph, and can be quite a bit quicker if just out for an hours blast. Saturday club rides every week are about this speed over 120-130km distance. Have done many 100 mile rides at 30kph or over. Longest ever single day ride was 350km miles across the country at 28.5kph, and that was with a small headwind the entire way.
350KM? That's just an athlete level right? I hope you the best journey 👍
@@mrmickey122yep, 350km in 12hr 30mins riding time, an event called Chase the Sun across the south of England coast to coast
LOL just shows how much that bar bag slows Conner down 🤯
How far, how much elevation and what was the temperature you guys were riding in? Long tights and jerseys but no gloves?
Very interesting concept to use for training purposes ...
I manage 30kph avg on about one and a half hour ride in Jakarta city which features dodging incredible traffic, stop lights and to compensate crazy acceleration and banging it down the straights at 40-50kph to get to this 30kph
This is a great illustration why aggressive driving in a city makes no difference to how fast you arrive at your destination. A study was done in Toronto where aggressive and passive drivers circumnavigated the city in a loop. No difference in elapsed total speed but aggressive drivers dramatically increased risk to themselves other drivers and pedestrians (Toronto had a problem at the time with pedestrian traffic deaths). Why is this so? Because at a stoplight your speed goes to zero making average speeds low no matter how fast you drive in between.
Surprised how hard it was maybe location is hard with all the delays. Excellent video.
I do often little under 50km routes with 30 km/h average speed but have never look if how average speed is during route. This did make curious and next time will be checking my average during the ride.
Of all the things going on in the world, this is your priority !!
Cheers guys, Hank the igniter.
I like the music, what is it? Need it for my training! Thanks!
All of the music used in the the description of the video!🎵
There are few factors like whether you start in a city or start the ride out of the city, whether you make the trip one way (tailwind is huge factor) or going in both directions, whether you drive in a group, rotating with the fellows in front. However I think that almost 100% of the riders in Strava use auto stop option on their bike comp or phone making 30km/h quite possible for up to 100km ride.
Connor wondering why Hank drops him, while having a huge sail in the form of his handlebar bag attached to make him as little aero as possible 😂
Ollie would not be happy! 👀
His stature in itself is a huge sail. Bigger cyclist will always be slower. They can only be faster on short sprints.
@@sleepdeprived9181 Looking at WvA riding a whole TdF stage solo or a Nils Politt bringing back a group on his own over the course of 40km, I have my doubts.
A lot of the rolleurs are bigger than climbers or GC contenders.
Fun video! I've been trying to averge 30km/h on my commute to work (12.5km/250m elevation) and I can only average 26km/h. Wish I had a Conor or Hank to encourage me on my commute!
with that much elevation per km, average 26 it's pretty good
I averaged 30 kph for 330 km Seattle to Portland including stops. 11 hour total, 10 hours moving time.
Living in a city centre this is like every ride for me. Where is Olly to tell us how much quicker Connor would have been without that parachute on the front of his bike?
Urban riding is why I don’t worry about speed much (except to the extent of being able to blend with traffic as needed). It’s too much stop-start for anything else, at least without exceeding my risk tolerance.
Did a 200km ride in 5:58 in traffic a couple of weeks back. The whole thing is about where you ride - not much about how good a rider you are once you have a bit of endurance
Elapsed time was a daft metric, especially in town.
30kph assuming rolling terrain without long climbs and without excessive wind is easy all day pace. We've gone 300km+ with a mixed group of 5 of very different abilities. Hot Australian summer's day and a bit windy at times, plus a few climbs but nothing over 10mins.
My 30kph average speed record is 30.7kph for 5ks with a max speed of 39.5kph. Along the coast of Dublin
my 5k average speed was 40kmph
and 56km at 30kmph
I did 150kms at 32km/hr avg once. In pure heat (37°C). I usually take 2 hours 55 mins for 100kms! It is fun!!
We wanted to do a 600km ride but we know we couldn't make it at time so we decide to stop at 410 km, but we did an average of just above 30 km/h. We had almost whole day headwind and we planned it almost to perfection with the route, not allot of stops and cities where we needed to get thru.
I get into road bike cycling in the middle of this year, started at an average of 23.5km/h. Now I can regularly do 27-28km/h, but if i try to cruise at 30k for longer than 2km, my heart rate will easily go above 165...
keep going, you get there in no time 🙂
Conor's saddle is slammed forward on those rails!
That was great !
The Orbea looks nice, almost like a copy of the Colnago, Pogacar rides.
Best channel all you guys are great !
I think I was getting more stressed at Hank littering. That coffee cup looked precarious. Great effort guys
He kept hold of it!
My best times road cycling through the city of Utrecht with my Merida Reacto, from Woerden to Zeist
38 km in 1:13 hours average speed 31 km per hour.
39km in 1:17 hours average speed 30km per hour.
Fortunately I am not heavy between 58/60 kg, but cycling with a roadbike through the city is too dangerous for me, mostly I avoid the city go around for a detour to make a longer enjoyable countryside trip to my destination. You better need a mountain bike with big tires and suspension in the busy city so you can cycling through the obstacles 😅
You guys need to get further from town. Our local club rides routinely average 17-18 mph, and we're rarely sprinting. Long roads with little traffic and few intersections are the key.
8:08 nice overtake on double white lines by a lorry 😮
It's a misnomer that double white lines means no overtaking ever, you're allowed to overtake very slow vehicles (such as bikes going uphill, milkfloats, etc).
"You may cross the line if necessary, provided the road is clear, to pass a stationary vehicle, or overtake a pedal cycle, horse, or road maintenance vehicle, if they are traveling at 10 mph (16 km/h) or less]."
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Double white lines where the line nearest you is solid. This means you MUST NOT cross or straddle it unless it is safe and you need to enter adjoining premises or a side road. You may cross the line if necessary, provided the road is clear, to pass a stationary vehicle, or overtake a pedal cycle, horse or road maintenance vehicle, if they are travelling at 10 mph (16 km/h) or less.
Laws RTA 1988 sect 36 & TSRGD regs 10 & 26
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There is oncoming traffic. There are hatchings on the other side of the white lines. It is on a corner.
I feel better after this video. I tried multiple times with a faster friend to do a public organized 100 mile ride in sub 5 hours. (Sub 5 century). Seems doable, but after multiple attempts we could not ever actually get it done. Came close, but nope. It was always the climbing, or stop-lights that would kill us, but hey we celebrated our defeat with a cold brew and smiled about it.
I'm always impressed, i'm stuck with an average speed below 24kph 😭 (i stopped cycling for a year and had two weeks to train a little).
Come to Texas. We have group rides that average 22+mph over 60 miles.
Mind you I can not keep that pace.
You guys are so fit! I wondered the same thing and did a lot of testing for myself. What I found is if you enable auto-pause, then 30K/h is achievable even in city environment. It will be a race-like effort, you sprint to 40K+ at every traffic light, draft cars or scooters as many as long as you can, the only thing is when you see a red light ahead, in real world riding you'll just cruise instead of keep pushing then do a hard stop, that will bring down the speed a little, then when you back home it could be around 30kph. But counting the coffee stops??? Not stop the watch??? Well... That's another level... Well done! Really enjoyed it!
Auto pause would have made it relatively easy for these guys. It is surprising however, how slow the average gets with relatively few slow periods (like traffic).
Not that it matters too much but Connor could have at least taken off that huge bag from below his handlebars :D
That really tall chappie, Not the Hank one, the really tall one. He had a shopping bag on the front of his bicycle.
That's Conor's beloved bar bag! you can see his reasoning here!👉ruclips.net/video/fkwvnlT6x7Q/видео.html
30kph = no bar bag, Connor.
8:40 "Giant friend"
An opinion that's bound to ruffle a few feathers: traffic lights in our cities, the vast majority of which were installed with the priority requirement to regulate automobile traffic, unnecessarily slow cycle traffic and cycle users should be able to legally ignore them if it is safe to do so. This is all but the case in this country for pedestrians who are extremely unlikely to be prosecuted or judged unfavourably by others for crossing a pelican crossing on the red man if there are no cars coming.
In the longer term we should be moving the regulation of all traffic in our cities towards one based on road users making decisions based on critical thinking and the hierarchy of road users. Not creating heavily restrictive "hurry up and wait" systems which incentivise the breaking/flouting of rules.
I moved 10 hours and reached 345 km. So my average speed was 34.5 km/h. It was so pity, that I was traveling without friends
that's awesome! where were you riding?
That's really pointing out some flaws in the averaging . Assuming they're both following the same route, and are in the same place, their average speeds have to be the same if it's a true average (total time, not rolling time)
I saw this in a movie about a bus that had to SPEED around a city, keeping its SPEED over fifty, and if its SPEED dropped, it would explode! I think it was called, 'The Bus That Couldn't Slow Down.'