Sad Update About African Fruit Beetles / Sun Beetles...
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- Опубликовано: 11 окт 2024
- Yes, this is not clickbait, this actually happened. Let me know if this has happened to any of your fruit eating inverts. Has this happened to your African fruit beetles / sun beetles?
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I know this may be late, but you can feed them beetle jellies. You can buy em at beetle stores or you can make your own. I own beetles and they love their beetle jellies.
To add: these jellies are very safe for beetles and the perks are it doesn't rot and it also don't smell. So, you can basically leave it in their enclosures for weeks (or maybe days, knowing that beetles love them so much they probably finish it earlier than expected 😂)
Oh my! I’ve never heard of anything like that. Sorry this happened, but also thank you for sharing. It was quite educational.
Thanks :)
Not sure in regards to the apple. But the first time I kept these beetles, I had one ‘die’. Like it was completely stiff, had not moved in hours and hours and I was 100% sure it had passed away. Even to the point where I had started to pin it for preservation. LUCKILY I didn’t actually need to pin him through his body so was never pierced. I say luckily, because I came back to finish pinning him the next morning and he was GONE. Vanished. Then I found him crawling around the workbench.. fully alive and well. I still have absolutely no idea what happened..
Yeah they can play dead really well, hence why I decided to keep them in a separate enclosure for a little while in case they woke up, but sadly they never did :(
A cricket did that to me so i put it in my mealworms box for them to eat but it was lively later
I like how after thawing, the bananna remembers it's supposed to be dead.
Sorry for your loss. Owning various - and especially exotic - pets is a trip down with joyful and sad moments. Best wishes to the next batch.
In my beetle caring hobby - starting from 2017-, I haven't had any beetle keel over because of food. (Or that's what I remember, it's been a long time). The food I serve for them is fresh; the moment they are starting to look rotten/smell alcoholic, I take it away. Yes, fermentation makes the fruit develop sugars. But for my nostrils (and eyes), it isn't pleasant.
A theory I have for this is that the apple started forming patulin as it started to rot. (That was the only logical thing I found from the Net, so it could be potentially else as well). Patulin itself is toxic to animals, even resulting in death. Most of the studies done on it were with bigger animals, so the intake for beetles is definitely lower.
Hopefully, this helps.
1:19 the beetle has a face on it :)
ikr 🥺😊
Don’t feel too bad I’ve had my fair share of massacres. All of my isopods died due to lack of spraying (I didn’t know how to care for them properly) and I left another batch with my mom and they all died again for the same reason I was definitely sad. Also had to throw out all my mealworms and beetles that I had been breeding for a year because they got infested with grain mites. Luckily I still have some babies in her tank to start all over again but that was devastating. It is good to try to make light of the situation these things are bound to happen despite our best efforts all we can do is get more and try again at least now you know to avoid apples and I know to spray my isopods and never use oats as substrate. As sad as it is for me making it a learning experience helps a lot.
My isopod starved :( I was sad
Yeah it's a real shame, but all we can do is learn.
That has happened to me a couple of times. Unfortunately, spotting mites on crickets and in mealworms has meant they had to go. I thought the best/most humane way was to put them in the freezer as I didn't want to release them into the wild or kill them in a painful way.
@@davidbeckett1565 yeah it was really sad but I had to throw them away it wasn’t worth possibly harming my gecko I think I caught it right in time thank god
I had an isopod massacre this year and it was awful. It was happening slowly and then all at once. A horrible sight to see
Aw thats a bummer but I did chuckle when you said getting drunk with your mates is a good way to go...lol - thanks for sharing as I have an interest in getting beetles in the future so this is a good awareness video
Such a bummer, thank you for sharing this cautionary tale!
No worries!
The beetle at 4:25 has a smiley face on him. :3
ikr 🥺🥺
Oh that's really sad. I'll watch for it with my own. Hard lesson to learn but I can't think it could have been any other cause
yeah it was so strange.
I was sent a tub of hornworm larvae eggs months ago, had no idea what I was doing, but I researched and started feeding them veggies when they ran out of their paste food. I wanted to raise them and then pin them when they passed naturally.
One night, I decided to toss a bunch of spinach in the container with them. I rinsed it and tie it up a bit. The next day I lost half of them.
Turns out, spinach is one of the worst things to feed insects unless you grow it yourself, as it can be saturated with pesticides still, even after being rinsed.
Long story short, I completely understand your guilt :(
Edit; I want to add that I had no idea the hornworms were coming to me. The place I order my dubias from just sent them to me randomly.
i know this is older but thank you for posting this as i plan on getting these guys and never even thought about this
I chucked one of the grubs in my crested geckos tank and completely forgot about it. Heard a weird scratching noise last night and saw a sun beetle climbing around in the tank
Some fruits do carry natural yeasts on their skins, it's a natural protection against other things that might decompose the fruit. Other fruits use other methods
Do you think it could be some kind of insecticides on the Apple 🍎
Fruit beetles live around a year, are they the original ones you raised? You maybe got them at the same time so passed around the same time? I had some male leaf insects and they only live a max of a year and were born from the same ova = seemingly mass murder at the end of their lifespan 😬 As sad as it is, may just be natural 🙂 I’ve not had any of my detritivores pass from decaying apple and I’ve had a ton of millipedes, snail species etc so I wouldn’t worry too much unless you think there was contamination 😊
possible some inverts have a very short lifespan
I did think that, but I think its very unlikely they'd all die at the same time. I think we're on our 3rd generation now. I believe I originally started off with like 9 grub, so it's probably a mix of generations.
@@leopardgeckotalk I have alot of these guys too and more often than not they do synchronise in death.
You keep the grubs with the adults correct?
I have two tubs one with adults and grubs one with just grubs.
When the adults die usually the grubs can dispatch of the whole thing in a hour.
You'll probably find you think your beetles are still there because another pupae hatched out ^w^
Replacing the one that died randomly.
Now you've seen a synchronised death and the grubs cant nibble them fast enough for you not too notice.
If you started finding dead grubs however that would be different and something wrong with the apple but I don't think you did.
So I wouldn't feel guilty for this the beetles just synced up when your used to the odd one dying here or there.
Kinda had a feeling insects could get drunk since some can be affected by cannabanoids (ig THC or CBD). Gonna show this video to my roommate who also has Sun beetles, like you he's given them rotting fruit loads of time and they're always fine. Good to know that we should be more careful with the state of the fruit we feed them.
So sorry to hear this happened . Maybe their gut flora was unbalanced . Thank you for posting this as I want some fruit beetles & can learn from this 🪲 I kept a variety of invertebrates ( not beetles yet ) and I know how it feels to lose a colony & to wonder why 💚
I don’t understand why anyone would dislike this video or any video on this channel
Sorry about the loss... that would be very upsetting, i get it. 😥
Yeah just sucks :/
Such a bummer, sorry this happened to you 😕
Oh you're not alone, lmao. We put in potatoes in one of our mealworm colonies for the beetles. We came back after the weekend, and the place WREAKED of booze. All the beetles were dead coz we basically made vodka...
hmm these beetles are so interesting and cool their grubs would be a delicious meal for monitors and tegus anyway awesome video
Also the merch is amazing
Aww! I'm so glad you could share this with us. Also, I want to paint the wall behind my leopard gecko's vivarium. Me and my dad are wondering if we should move her to a different set up until the painting is finished. we use water-based paints so we don't think it would be harmful to her but I am wondering what you think. I love you videos and they have helped us take care of her in the past :) keep going
That should be fine if it's water based. And thank you :)
@@leopardgeckotalk no problem :)
@@leopardgeckotalk tysm for replying
rip beetles
African fruit partying beetles 😂
I may or may not have done this with some milipedes when i didnt notice they buried a slice of apple that then fermented 😅
Hi I’m just collecting rotting wood and leaves 🍃 from my local park. Is this ok or do I need to clean them some how?
Definitely going to look into these beetles for a food supply for my growing monitors. Rite now I have over 60 baby monitors they are going through food like crazy and more to hatch out around Halloween 🎃. If your interested check my videos out on here rite now I have the biggest collection of varanus exanthematicus in the world 🌎 and one of the most successful breeders of this amazing species
My gecko passed away this morning, and one of my guinea pigs passed away in september- safe to say i am not lifes favorite 🙂 both were way too young :(
Thank you for this Info I Love your Videos❤️✨
thanks :D
That stinks. That’s really weird. Sorry about that.
thanks :)
One of the best ways to go, but I'd put a bit of food in there just to be sure they're dead. Even still, how long have you had them. I had a mass die off of a dubia colony myself when they got around 2 years old. Then phorids got involved and things got nasty, but I digress. They may have reached old age, and maybe the alcohol if it was fermented was enough to knock them off. But again, it just could have been their time. Are the larva okay?
Wait, which fruit got them drunk? I have sun beetles so I need to know otherwise they could die by accident. I mostly give them peach but I also give them apples, bananas and grapes sometimes.
Apple, the fermenting apple got them drunk.
Did you definitely wash the apple before you froze it? Just thinking apples might have more pesticides than other fruit maybe? Could possibly be that fruit that has a higher content of citric acid has a different decay process and they can like biologically process fruit that has lower citric acid content or something? (I don't know just thought suggestions may be useful)
They did quick after grub state is over
How long are they in the cocoon for
My mealworms got drunk they past away
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I only just started keeping them this year . I will be honest n say i hardly remove the old food n not had this happen good to no we have had the odd one die but thats to be expected they are a bit crazy lol
“Got so drunk that they died” is a mood 😂 I hope the population grows back and with little experience, I have no clue how this happened, but thanks for stopping me from doing the same 👍🏽
thanks, yeah they seem to be coming back, I think the ones that passed left a lot of grub.
@@leopardgeckotalk good 👍
hi i was wondering if I should add more to my leo’s enclosure for enrichment because i have all of the necessities but she does a lot of bored symptoms like climbing up and down her climbing area
yeah add some enrichment if you think she is feeling bored as even if she is not bored the enrichment will benefit her long term
Are you sure the apples were organic and didn't have any pesticide?
We don't use pesticides on our eating apples lol
I wish the darkling beetles in my python viv would die out, but nope haven't seen anything killing my bugs
Are you sure they just haven't reached their life span. I'm just pointing that out as if they emerged around the same time maybe its just that. They do only live a few months in adult form.
It wont of been from being drunk but instead would if been from the gasses from the decay of the Apple going to far. The beetles you have still may of been buried enough to avoid it.... We all learn and your numbers will soon increase aswell im sure x
Ah interesting. Yeah I did wonder why some weren't affected.
Where can I buy them?
Lol I'm canadian thats a good way to go with some home made moonshine.
hahaa :')
So my sister and I were wondering, is it bad that her baby leopard gecko won’t ever eat mealworms?
No, that’s not bad. Mealworms aren’t a very healthy feeder anyway. Just try to give them a varied diet.
No some don't. Maui liked them at first, but he just leaves them at the moment, so I over him other feeders.
Could they not be dead from old age being they are a year and a half ??
little beetle sat on a fruit
little beetle got drunk without dispute
all the beetle keepers and all the little pets
couldnt bring little beetle to life again
seriously tho rip
yeah :(
😢❤🦎😁
Can u do how to persuade your parents to allow you to get a lepord gecko
I did a video on it a while ago, but maybe look at the leopard gecko vs crested gecko video, see some of the key points about leopard geckos :)
@@leopardgeckotalk omg I can't believe you replied I am crying i asked my mum and she surprisingly said yes so yeah
I assume you're using organic fruits? Apples get sprayed with so much stuff but this can't be the only time they had apples.
Yeah they've had apple before, and our fruits dont really get sprays with anything, that I know of.
So they essentially died by drinking too much cider?
possibly lol
Thanks for sharing I will be sure to watch out for that happening to my beetles . I bought mine as grubs to feed to my geckos they managed one each but looked like they struggled a little . so I set up a home for them and I love them so much I have 8 that I see daily they bring me so much joy 😊 I look forward to warmer weather to get the next generation x
haiii guiyys
Hello! I have a question about leopard geckos. Can I only feed them Mealworms??
Mealworms, crickets, Dubia roaches. Mine favour crickets but like a bit of variety. Most importantly make sure the feeders are gut loaded and covered with a sprinkle of calcium. I also have a little dish in the enclosure with calcium and so see them dipping there tongue in from time to time.
yes but your gecko will benefit GREATLY from more insects, i reccommend dubia roaches, and also mealworms can go into a pupae stage that you can feed your geckos.
and silkworms are like candy to them, just throw in a couple in their diet otherwise theyll get addicted
@@dookcurruff9047 you’re confusing silkworms with waxworms. Silkworms are a very nutritious feeder.
No. Mealworms aren’t healthy for their main diet and should make up no more than 25% of their diet. They’re fatty and not very nutritious. Live crickets, roaches, silkworms, and black soldier fly larvae can be fed regularly. Mealworms, super worms, and hornworms can be fed occasionally. The more variety in their diet, the better.
i love peeling the skin off my gecko when he is shedding and feeding him the skin
Peeling off the skin can actually potentially harm them. Let them do it themselves and only step in if they have stuck shed after.
@@nightinggale6470 yeah thats what i do, i get lukewarm water and put him in there
@@dookcurruff9047 do you put him in water while he’s shedding, or if he has stuck shed after shedding?
@@nightinggale6470 when he has stuck shed on his face or feet
This is hilarious ngl
See, let this be a lesson to people. And yet people continue to get drunk out of their minds. Terrible...
There is a possibility that the beetles were the same age and died due to old age at the same day.
That would be way too weird as the beetles all hatch out at different times and were a mix of generations, rather than being one whole generation dying the same day.
yeah you should not burden yourself too much, i know it is sad. But Human error and mistakes happen, the only thing you can do now is learn from your mistakes :)
And also you just thaught a bunch of people on youtube! ;)
yeah i never knew beetles could get drunk
@@apss5736 yeah you never stop learning :D
thanks, yeah it's so weird they've had apples before with no problem, so not quite sure why this one did this to them.
@@leopardgeckotalk yeah maybe gon´t give them apples which are going bad, this could be a risk fruit because it can ferment.
I have some questions about my leopard gecko, please can u help me :(((
I can help, what’s up?
@@nightinggale6470 he hasn't eaten worms for 2 weeks, just drink water and sleep. I tried to feed him alot but he defuse all the time, i dont know what to do now...
@@lamcongtien7367 keep in mind that meal/super worms aren’t healthy for their main diet and should make up no more than 25% of their diet. Live crickets, roaches, silkworms, and black soldier fly larvae can be fed regularly. Mealworms, super worms, and hornworms can be fed occasionally. The more variety in their diet, the better.
What’s the hot spot temperature and how is it being measured (analog thermometer, digital, or temperature gun)? What heat source are you using? Is he losing weight?
@@nightinggale6470 he's not losing weight, just look normal, maybe i should feed him by cricket
@@nightinggale6470 thks u, have a nice day. U help me alot ❤
My gecko died :(
rest in peace
Rip beetles I have no Idea why they died
Apple i think lol
I wanr to geht a Leopard Gecko, but my Parents dont want me to, because They think you cant die anything with a Gecko...so you have any Tips for me?🥺❤️
leos are very interactive show them videos of interactive geckos
also show them cute leo vids
@@apss5736 thank you❤️
@@klaramohring7610 good luck I hope you'll be able to get one and I suggest you get a male first since they are easier to take care of
@@oceane6378 ya females can have egg problems