There Is A Problem With All Of My Engines
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you didn't include the RPM's from the Jag, the comically large scooter, the drill press, or the bicycles...
You should get one of those cheapo handheld oscilloscopes. Its really useful when you wanna find out why something is not working.
@@hoffmanbike hoffmambike, extra points.....
Okay, i have to know. Which engine can take days to turn a full cycle once? Google isn't being cooperative.
All that oil gushing out cleaned the shavings out of the oil pan. Good thinking 👍
Why change the oil if you only need to fill it up
I had a car like this. Saved a lot on filters.
@@timlamein9637 something something nissan vq engines
Positive [ish] Pressure Rinse!
turned it into a total loss engine just like speedway bikes
The number of times I've gone to the garage to "look at something" only to get carried away and end up burning a hole in my shoes or caking them in grinder dust... it is the natural order of things.
I do the opposite..
To paraphrase Richard Dawkins:
"The number of times I've gone to the garage with intentions of getting things done and end up standing around smoking and watching youtube, outnumber the sandgrains of Sahara"
I don’t have any nice clothes. I just have clothes that I haven’t ruined yet.
@@SuperfastMatt scoot over, i'm in that same boat
@@SuperfastMatt I had some nice shirts. They all have welding spatter holes in them now. I no longer buy nice shirts.
On the way to the rehearsal dinner my father in law's jeep broke down, my dad and I went right to fixing it. My wife was not happy, and my mother responded "look at his father, this will not change"
"We do these things not because they are easy, but because we thought they would be easy"
A wise man once said, anytime you hear someone say "that's easy" that is a person who does not understand the problem.
@@joels7605 100% truth.
wow! how do i relate so much to this
2:25 I love the effort that went into "flipping" the graph, except it still went positive first. 😂😂
My animation skills top out at Keynote, which allows rotate but not mirror. I thought, “Nobody but Eric will notice.”
@@SuperfastMatt Does that also make me Eric?
David noticed too
Damn, I don't want to be an Eric, but now I am... 😔
Don't be Eric t-shirt please🤔
I love how you fixed your oil stained shoes by simply adding more oil to stain them uniformly. Most likely conditioned the leather now so they could last longer.
Its what i woud have done just not on purpose
My ex did a similar thing when I ruined a new, rather fancy, rather expensive and my only shirt the first time I wore it. I dropped a bit of butter on it which ruined the nap or the sheen or whatever it's called... I'm no fabricologist. It never occurred to me to just dunk the whole thing in vegetable oil but it worked a treat.
for the next 10,000 km
What weight of oil did you use? I had the same thing happen, so I just added more to the rest to make it look consistent.
Problem was during the winter, until my shoes warmed up, I got a really bad insole slap that eventually wreaked havoc and was left stranded on the side of the road,,,,😂
@@shakeydavesr depends on the shoes. with work boots its better to use a thicker more heavy duty oil that can hold up to the abuse, whereas with runners a lighter oil is better because it increases efficiency of the shoe allowing for slightly better performance.
Perhaps it's just that I work for an oscilloscope company, but my gut reaction was "hey let's stick a scope on the sensor"
I bought an oscilloscope just for home for this very reason aha! Though the ecu tuning software does have a 'built in trigger scope'
Once you finally set a record with your land speed car, you should drain the oil from that day and sell it as limited edition leather shoe conditioner.
Limited Edition World Record Holding Leather Shoe Conditioner.
All hail the aligator!
I made an optical pickup for an old Suzuki engine. It was glorious. Just a phototransistor, infrared LED, mosfet and JB weld. VASTLY superior to the magnetic pickup. All that magnetic noise and hysteresis just goes away and you get a beautifully clean signal. In that case it even worked with the stock encoder wheel. You can even park it right next to the stator on the dry side of the crank. If you're having signal issues I highly recommend going optical.
Look at you with your fancy optical pickup. Flexing on us magnetic pickup guys like that!
I should try that for an old honda engine I'm rebuilding, I'm already modding the hell out of it so why not
@@darekmistrz4364 Remember those really old computer mice that had the ball in them? I took the phototransistor and LED out of an old computer mouse, added a couple other components then slathered it in JB Weld. It was pretty ghetto but it worked amazing. You can make one very, very easily. If I were to do it again I'd probably throw some aluminum on my mill and machine a proper bracket, and probably use a little pen laser module instead of an LED.
@@joels7605 Look at you flexing with you mill on us poor driveway-workshop guys like that!
Once you go optical you’ll never go … floptical?
What I'm hearing is that the Microsquirt doesn't have a zero crossing detector. This was a point of contention very early in Megasquirt history. Al didn't want to use the LM1815 off-the-shelf zero crossing detector "because he was told it was going to be EOL" and so the MS didn't get a VR interface. However, you could make a perfectly serviceable discrete Zero Crossing detector with an LM139. Meanwhile, the LM1815 is still readily available 20 years later, in fact I see that DIYautotune sells them!
Is this the verbal version of magic smoke?
@@OperationDarkside It means that the input works with normal crank sensors and doesn't require a hall-effect ignition pickup.
The perfect antidote to modern life depression ...... engineering, science, bodging and subtle humour. Keep up the good work!
and as mentioned in a previous episode...spending 4x as much trying to cobble a 1x solution that you thought was too expensive to begin with.
Lovely... and extremely pertinent as I too was struggling with the problem just yesterday! You didn't mention the Microsquirt noise filtering facility for the crank trigger, which can be mapped with engine speed, giving you that "BMW facility" on which you waxed lyrical. It's in the Ignition settings tab and fixed all my remaining issues. You're welcome.
See, but if he did that. He would have ruined a perfectly good pair of shoes for nothing. Much better to laser cut and weld new parts.
Did I get baited by 40.000 rpm? yep and I do feel silly about it, always great humor on this channel!
I want to learn how to trust the way Matt trusts oil filters
My dad is a commercial electrician and he constantly refers to “magic smoke” it’s nice to see that other people have in depth knowledge of electrical devices as well
What commercials did he star in?
I love this channel so much. Not only does it teach me about vehicles I probably otherwise wouldn’t care to learn about but it also applies engineering principles to your project cars. Leaving me invaluable knowledge about how to approach things.
Also made me realize that spending 3x the money to do something yourself only to buy the proper solution is a way of life and something that’s probably never going to stop me.
By adding a resistor in parallel you are just decreasing the overall input impedance of your controller. The voltage stays the same. By adding a resistor in series with a controller input you are creating a voltage divider and increasing input impedance. To reduce the noise you could insert a low-pass filter, which would filter everything above highest engine frequency.
The VR sensor has fairly high internal resistance (on the order of 1kohm), so the parallel resistor also drops the voltage at the input.
Excellent result. I would think an oscilloscope might be useful for sorting out this kind of problem or befriend an electronics engineer 😀
He has an oscilloscope. Used it in the Tesla door handle video for example.
That is basically only reason I bought oscilloscope for - to diagnose ignition and rpm trigger signal problems :D
Pretty sure Matt is a EE and has a sillyscope
The mega squirt/tuner studio basically has one built in.
Yeah, basic dc voltages are fairly simple but once you start shaking them on long unshielded wires weird shit starts happening and those capacitive coupled/reflected/basically antennas get a bit complicated to diagnose without the right tools.
I love my slow turning Ford Model A engine. when on a trip i miss no radio.
Haha! I'd love to see them Superfast boys get theyselves out of THIS one!
As long as Matt doesn’t put on Daisy dukes…
@@rb70383 Coming soon! Matt's significant other (is he married?) wears Daisy Dukes!
@@austinclark8727 Wondered that with garage speed runs !
Great content! I just wanna suggest try using a shop-vac to catch the stray metal dusts. You can pretty easily modify the vacuum hose attachments by heating the plastic with a heat gun to help it them fit in those little areas and be used simultaneously with your grinder tool, etc.
Nice tip. Ta :)
Also put some (duct) tape in the hole, sticky side toward the grinder, you catch most of the shavings, and you can block off the opening to your oil pan.
Considering the severe drought California is currently experiencing you should really start scheduling more races you want to attend.
This comment needs more appreciation
aaaaaand this didn't age well haha
Waterproof shoes, nice
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Those Dukes of Hazzard match cuts are taking me back to my childhood! 😊
I would've been hugely dissapointed if the 701 wasn't part of the total rev count.
The 40k had me sucked in. I thought that there is no way you're going to get a 10k rpm motorbike motor spinning to 40k and not have it self destruct. It would have let the magic smoke out of the crankcase and anything else in the way.
Shoe “polish”. Nicely done.
The oiling of the shoes at the end was great. Really enjoyed the deep dive into triggering problems.
Love your work Bloke. Seriously. Thankyou for going to the effort to share.
4:23 - Biggest smile I've ever seen! Well done Matt.
There is nothing in this world finer than having someone solve a problem you didn’t know you were about to have. I’m microsquirting my ZXR250 LSR bike… I had SCS laser me a timing wheel too, which I replaced the stock one with. I was skeptical that it’d be able to keep up with my timing wheel at 19,000 RPM, and watching this video told me I was right, WHY it was gonna break and how to fix it… plus to go look on the board instead of doing it inline.
You win today, you’re my hero.
I'm not sure how important it is, and I'm sure you have a safety check prior to events but I noticed your shock collars (shock body not preload) spinning under your full rpm test (when it finally gave back all of the beans), so be sure to check things over for torque. I'd hate to see you lose some bits or worse because of nvh.
Speaking of revs, my Trabant 601 has a 2-stroke engine and it only revs to 4200, with peak torque at 3800.
There's your problem right there. 😀.
Well, one of your problems.
My 1930 Model A Ford engine idles at 400 rpm and zings up to its redline of 1,800 or so. The flywheel weighs more than 50 pounds. You can easily count the individual firing pulses. A different set of issues.
@@davesmith9325 Trabant disposal big problem, no ?
Damn you with your genius thumbnails!! Great video, love the content. Makes me want to get out in the garage. Thank you for all the hard work that goes into these!!
I went through the same thing when I was using a Life Racing ECU with a stock Audi 1.8T sensor. The resistor thing sort of works sometimes. Ultimately, the best answer was buying a nice Magnetti Marelli Sensor and using it with the stock 58 tooth wheel
That's the most satisfying set of loosely connected events I've seen in a while.
My electrical engineering schooling taught me exactly what you explained. Magic smoke is what makes electronics work.
This is pretty cool, I’m glad this came past my feed! Subscribed 👌
Brilliant! What did I like the most? Flaming the poster that never got back with the result, forgetting that you already made a timing mark, or oiling both shoes entirely? Probably the shoes. I loved the episode, thank you!
Thanks for having all the crank angle sensor issues. I've been fighting my CAS issues for over a year, this gives me the ... audacity ... to think I can fix my MS3 now.
What an excellent journey, thanks for taking us along. It makes me feel better about the serpentine knowledge paths I take to fixing my jalopy fleet.
The fix on the Grom/CBR250 engine was fantastic. Amazing diagnostic work.
Thanks so much for the fun video love the humor and the knowledge you get across using it , you should have used a magnet to remove the case filings from when you had to adjust it for the hall effect sensor
Glad the solution isn't just to throw resistors at wires and crossing fingers
That last part had me in stitches 😂😂😂
Love your dry delivery Matt 😂
Many years ago I had MicroSquirt, and the cam sensor (VR2) circuit couldn't see the low voltage that the cam lobe to OEM sensor produced when cranking on the starter, yet the OEM ECU could. I ended up using a diode, but later units had a a revised VR2 circuit that was more sensitive. There was a unit made by IMFsoft in the Czech Republic that had rpm programmable VR voltage clipping values to cope with the range of AC voltages generated by high revving engines.
Castrol please sponsor this man!!!!!
Back in the days... we struggled with the MSD8509's to make the VR pickups to work! Your resistor tricks (inline or parallel) sound like a great idea!
Always quality out of you bro appreciate you posting
4:23 That's an appropriate amount of smile.
2:43 The BMW grom 😮
dude Matt, I love everything you do, its crazy how entertaining your channel is!
Keep doing whatcha doin, cause ill be watching every vid that comes my way :D
Thanks Matt, I truly enjoy your narratives on your videos
Hey. You could take the stator off the racecar engine so you get less drag due tothe magnets. And you could get a pexyglass cover to avoid the next oil squirt. Just for when you want to test the engine with the top cover off. I love the channel! Good job!
Sounds like things are going to be different at two different tracks now! great work!
Would adding a coil in series with the sensor fix the problem? That would lower the voltage at high frequencies but not at low frequencies. You could also add a capacitor in parallel or build a more complicated filter out of these components
Man, everything I see your video pop-up on my feed I'm happy.
Neat. To me, this seems like signal acquisition and conditioning issues - if it were I I would design a board that can actively convert the less than ideal sensor signal and “re-generate” or send a buffered “ideal” signal to the ecu. The tricky bit would be to make sure that there is no phase shift, or if there is, that it is consistent through the rpm range so it could be adjusted for… just my .02!
This seems like a pretty good solution; also, maybe if the whole issue is that the threshold needs to climb with RPM, it would just need to be a variable resistor that could change with RPM? All of this is easier said than done though
@@zgrb Yeah, though perhaps in a more “active” sense - eg perhaps the rpm is converted into a control voltage that is used for a comparator to track the right signal from the sensor to derive the pulse from for instance. The issue with the resistors as is, appears to me to be about providing the right impedance to the ecu - an active buffered solution would be a powered device that monitors the sensor and “re-generates” effectively an “ideal” signal to the ecu. By using a lower impedance driver / buffer and a constant pulse magnitude over rpm, I don’t think the resistance to the ecu would be as critical over rpm range.
Would be a fun project to mess around with though for sure!
I agree that sounds like an ideal solution, but another tricky bit is making sure the signal conditioner is consistently fast enough. I'm wondering if instead of an active conditioner you could use some form of Schmidt trigger. Not sure that would be any better though. It's one of those things that's easy on paper but gets really complicated in the real world. Would be a fun project to dig into.
Lol i can't deal with my "I don't know!"s. Even not knowing where a harness zip-clip is supposed to clip drives me nutty. Aw man you let the smoke out the wires! The smoke does all the magic! I accidentally let the smoke out of a dual battery vehicle while trying to discharge the caps... Thanks man! This video explains why there are trigger kits for RBs and other older engines.
Great video Matt, the barfing oil gave me a good hearty chuckle
LOL! multigrade shoes!!.
Great info Matt. Well worked out. Thanks 😎
There is a circuit element that was designed to get around the problem of reading a noisy analogue sensor, it's called a Schmitt trigger, invented by Otto Schmitt back when motors revved in single digits and electronics used valves (1934).
Unlike Matt I'm not being funny: the 10 litre single cylinder Lanz "Bulldog", coincidentally introduced in 1934, will actually run at 1 RPM.
Essentially the Schmitt trigger output goes high when the input reaches the pull up threshold and stays high until it reaches the pull down threshold, ignoring any noise that occurs between these states.
A modern Schmitt trigger IC costs about $1.
Congrats on 60k!
Your editing style is really fun.
In one video you asked for tips on which tools you should buy... I'd suggest you get a medium/cheap oscilloscope... Then you can save a lot of time on guess work what signals your sensors return and where they pick up errors or or the resistors change the signal. Rigols are quite good bang-for-the-bucks
I cannot stress enough how much I love your manner of speech and way to put together info :)
Your neighbors must love you. Happy Thanksgiving 😊
Great job on the video Matt! Thanks for making it.
Excellent work and quality entertainment! Thanks
Learned a lot here! Good show :)
Love the barfing oil sequence
One of the few things I remember from mechatronics class "don't let the smoke out"...oh and Butterworth filter is a funny name (no clue how it works anymore).
Amazing work 👍. Ever thought of just using a rotary engine??
Amazing forward thinking to have that oil return window! It cleans the starter gear and speeds up an oil change. 🤯
@SuperfastMatt BMW is using several variants of hall sensor. Older variants are using naroww head. For example HELLA 6PU 009 163-331. This could be solution.
Top tier technical entertainment.
Matt, love the outro 🤣
"Waylon Jennings from Beyond" Narration was Spot-On
I had the same issue on my mega squirt..... it's megasquirt one with a v2.2 daughter card essentially the same thing in your microsquirt. My trigger setup is Ford Edis 6 as an RPM signal then a Bosch 124 ignition module MSD 6al to a locked distributor... and it hauled ass for years revved to the Moon. one day I had ignition problems and the car was never the same. I could get it to run but it just didn't feel right. I finally figured it out it was a 124 ignition module after an MSD box failed.
@08:33 I love Anderson SB50 connectors. They're easy to install, easy to use and seemingly very reliable.
I prefer XT-60 and XT-90
Grinding down the teeth reminds me of a friend who used a wooden chain tensioner for his timing chain when he pulled the head on his Datsun. He couldn't get the chain tensioner out so he had the brilliant idea of hacking away at it with a wood chisel and vacuuming out all the chips.
Then he wondered why he had no compression in one of the cylinders, when he put it all back together. He pulled the valve cover off to find a chunk of wood wedged between the valve and rocker arm.
And a whole lot of chunks of wood in the oil pan.
Wiping the rest of the shoes was also my instant thought as I saw the oil spilling over them.
Hey, that's an improvement.
Now they are even water repelling 👍
All the revs, all the beans. Love it!
this needed a quick clip at the end with you posting to the "forum"
I kinda love it when someone does exactly what I would have suggested, right before the video is over.😄
Best description of magic smoke ever!
Your subtle, deadpan sense of humor had me laughing out loud, not subtly or deadpan at all.
When I worked as a marine mechanic I had a colleague who spilled a drop of oil on a brand new teak covered swim platform. He just poured out the rest of the bottle, spread it around with a spatula and wiped up the excess with a rag. Problem solved, never heard from the client about it. Trying to clean it up would have been a disaster.
Sir you NEED an Oscilloscope, watch the raw input, and tap the filtered output of the vr conditioning circuit to the main processor, and you'll be able to see what the ecu see's as logic high and low. Hantek 1008C, it's super helpful.
I have an oscilloscope. What I need is the patience to learn how to use an oscilloscope.
Have you seen the old tractor that could run at 0 rpm? That thing's pretty nuts!
If that s1000 engine ever fails, I expect a homemade bike based V8 or k1600.
The oil on shoes at the end was so satisfying. Resolved a feeling of need
Awesome. Oil really is good for keeping shoes waterproof /ish.
Hey Matt 👋 Love your channel
It’s somehow satisfying to see the pixie dust cloud rising from the cockpit, it means I’m not the only one burning circuits by reversing the polarity. Just quickly test this thing before supper and poof it went up in smoke…
One 18650 charging circuit dead thanks to reverse polarity, another dead thanks to two 18650s in series.
Roughly a few months apart, after using the first one for over a year and a half with no incidents.
All OEM Automotive parts are equipped with reverse polarity protection, as this situation is so common that the immunity is required by the ISO standards. Stop buying parts that are cutting costs in wrong places ;)
@@NukeDMAn oh really, go ahead and swap the terminals in your car and turn it on. Let’s see how many control units will go up in smoke. Have changed my share of customer misshaps reversing the leads.
i always solder diodes in series, usually helps. unless the diode breaks too
You can just clone the sensor molding and build your own hall sensor
But if you get into the 7400 or cd4000 series chips u can build a signal conditioner
Probably use a zener diode to clip ur high voltage ⚡
Be electronic circuits online for it or something close
You can see the locking nuts on your rear coilovers rotating when you rev at 13:14
Madder than a cut snake ... love it!
now we need a proper sound clip of the landspeed