Omega Seamaster SMP 300 42mm VS Tudor Pelagos: best features and best value
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- Which watch offers better value? The omega Seamaster smp 300 or the Tudor Pelagos?
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Omega SMP murders another watch!!
Hmmm for me like wins by a nose 👃 because we do have to consider that it’s far more expensive, more versatile but less legible. It’s certainly a beautiful watch tho.
@@marcgoldbergdogtrainer well if bang for buck is a consideration, the the Rolex sub certainly gets murdered by the Omega SMP
@@algorithm007ify omega smp is so damn ugly id rather a casio
boazz same, and same for planet ocean. AT is where it's at.
It really really doesn’t!! 😂😂😂
The Pelagos is such an awesome watch, maybe it is THE divewatch.
lmfao
I’ve had both. Kept the Tudor.
Why?
I was torn between the Omega MOTFM and the blue Pelagos. I went for the MOTFM, and I absolutely love it, but sometimes I think about “what could’ve been” with the Pelagos. That magnificent blue, that phenomenal bracelet and clasp, that to-die-for luminous dial; it is such a handsome tool watch!!! I hope one day it will join my MOTFM in a rotation. GREAT review!
No F, Archie sold his months ago
They were the two I was looking at 4 years ago or so. Not natural competitors, but similar prices, I’m still thinking about them all these years later, still haven’t committed. The only thing I’ll say, is that I’ve seen the Pelagos go for as little as £1600, with the MOTFM going no lower than £2500 really. I still really want both, though.
Sorry, but the Pelagos is an extremely well designed and engineered watch.
I own a Rolex Batman and Hulk. Since i have have the Pelagos, i didnt wear them anymore 😅
I dont care about the value, but Tudor is the new BOSS
Lol tudor might be boss among Longiness, Breitling and Tag. Omega is different level
@@Mint-cb2vc Silly comment. I'm an Omega fan (two Seamsters) but Tudor is the better value for the money. It's more rugged, pure tool watch, better adjustable bracelet, 70 hour power reserve...all for less money. .
@@TrendyStone can't you read? where did I mention about value proposition? I said that Omega and Tudor are in different leagues, silly boi
@@Mint-cb2vc Did you actually write, "silly boi?" Are we in middle school? Anyway...if it's not about value proposition...what does "in different leagues" mean?
Sounds like just an opinion for which you offered nothing to support it. Nada. Are they in different leagues because of quality? No. Movement design (Tudor movement has a longer power reserve and is nearly identical to the robust Rolex movement) , volume of watches sold? Why are they in different leagues?
I'm asking as someone that has purchased two Omega watches, Panerai, Rolex, Breitling, Cartier, etc. I haven't noticed anything in my Omega watches that puts them in a "different league" than Tudor...or any of the other I mentioned.
Pelagos is easier on the eyes, I like the blue one too. Nice vid Marc.
Both fantastic watches, can’t lose with either. Comes down to personal preference.
Wow--I COMPLETELY agree with you, Mark. The Pelagos is superior as a straight tool watch, but I like the Seamaster more for its combination of tool and style. The bezel on the Tudor is functionally better than the one on the Omega, but the scalloped bezel on the Seamaster is adequate and I like its dressier, more elegant look. This is certainly a case where one can own both watches--as you do--and find plenty of occasions to wear each of them.
Tudor...Titanium plus 70hrs reserve plus in house movement and bezel lume wins it for me. I also own the seamaster and submariner .Tudor is like a tough luxury watch with less polishing and less fancy than the submariner but as capable if not more than the sub or SM
just my humble opinion
For pure tool watch I think your right Tudor wins. If you also want your wrist to shine a little bit and show off your luxury watch yo with the omega
Just gone for a Pelagos in noir and love it's clean utilitarian lines, (comparatively) low weight, amazing bezel, dazzling lume and adjustable bracelet. Compared to the Omega it's quite low key (a couple of colleagues have SMPs) and I like that it has a conservative functional look. With 500m water resistance, auto He valve, titanium construction, 70 hour power reserve and excellent accuracy from the in house movement (it has not gained or dropped a second over the two weeks it's been on my wrist) it really is the definitive tool watch.
Both movements are excellent but the Omega has that nice coaxial. You don't need to pick one. You did the right thing and got both.
Currently own the Pelagos in Blue, and love it!! Also want the silver/blue Seamaster. Tried it on at an AD, and fell in love with it too 😍😍😍
I own both watches also, and I prefer the Tudor. The Omega is beautiful, but to me it's more dressy. The Pelagos is more of an everyday watch and I think that's why I prefer it. I wear the Pelagos much more often. Both are beautiful. A side note, I also own a Submariner from 2005, pre-ceramic and I wear both the Omega AND the Tudor more often than the Sub.
Pelagos blue for me just a great looking piece, I agree that the omega is flashier and for me I like less flash
Both are great. The Pelagos is an amazing value for the money.
The beauty in the rugged look of Pelagos with that titanium bracelet in that blue color is mesmerizing. Pictures and videos do not do justice, you gotta experience that watch in person.
Love that Tudor.
I have both watches, an older 2531.80 omega and the new co ax movement and also the pelagos with the new in house movement. Love all 3 but I think you get more bang per buck with the Tudor and LOVE the titanium bracelet its feather light and you mentioned the 70 hour power reserve, awesome
I love the black version of the Pelagos, it was my grail when it came out, but I’ve been looking at other timepieces, now you’ve got me all moist over the Pelagos, Marc.....I want one for my Phist!
Pelagos for sure
The Tudor has the authentic tool watch look. The satin titanium and matt dial/bezel looks very cool. The Omega looks a bit try-hard and blingy. I wouldn't wear either with a suit and I think only the Submariner can get away with that.
Both are 42mm which I love. The Pelagos is Titanium which kills it for me right away. I prefer SS above all other materials. For me, the Omega is by far the better looking watch. I like the Omega bracelet better. The wart doesn't at all bother me.
I like the wart I think it makes the watch instantly recognizable and different
I loved the beautiful blue colour of the pelagos at the AD (you need to see that blue in person), but when back home , thinking about it I want the black as it’s more like a futuristic Rolex sub and that appeals to me , oh and the price
I agree w u completely. I do think the Tudor is a bit more unique and both will stand the test of time
My opinion is that both of these watches are spectacular!!!
The blue Omega hands down is absolutely beautiful. I own it :)
Congrats on a great watch !! Just picked one up myself
I think if omega ditched the relief valve. And wavey dial it would smash a submariner
Absolutely agree. Those waves and bracelet has to go!
Omega seamaster hands down!!! Owned the pelagos couldn't wait to flip it
Both are amazing but that Omega Seamaster is just so versatile as a dive/dress watch! I was in a dilemma between these watches as well. I ended up getting the Omega Seamaster 300m because I work in an office environment and needed a good looking watch! Gets plenty of compliments and a great conversation starter!
I own both of these watches and I gotta say I like the pelagos more. Way more comfortable bracelet and light on the wrist, no nonsense, better bezel, and is more legible
I just can't seemnto love the wave pattern on the seamaster dial, it just makes it look slightly cheap, almost like a cheap watch brand that added some wavy bling to make it look cool. The Tudor just looks mire serious and timeless. If the seamaster didn't have those waves I'd love to pick one up. Pelagos for me any day.
That tudor look like an expensive tool watch yet omega look more like a proper luxury watch
MDD DD the Omega looks like a 90’s remake for old men. I hate the pattern dial and link bracelet but I’m under 50. The omega 300 is a different story, especially the 1957 version, great classic dial, easy to read lum hands when diving, auto release valve, much nicer bracelet. I like the Tudor though, looks like a tough Rolex and has practical features like 70 hour power reserve with easy to read lum and clear bezel clicks with no back play.
Who wants a flashy DIVE watch? There are other models for dressed up situations. Tudor by far
This is why i went for the OLDER Seamaster .. Understated dial.. I would love to see a face-off between the pelagos and the non-wave dial seamaster.
Two great watches. Night lume is spectacular on the Tudor. Seamaster looks a bit busy. Prefer Pelagos in black.
I own that Seamaster and I am loving it...
I got tired of the flashyness of the luxury watches (my last watch was a Chronomat) so I pulled the trigger with the blue Pelagos. Even on my 7 inch wrist it wears in full comfort and the readability is like nothing I had before. Titanium makes it light for such size of a watch and in the same time more scratch resistant than stainless steel.
🤣 being a programmer I own the previous generation black Omega 300m and the blue Tudor Pelagius, both to me are keepers!
Great video!!! Thank you Marc
I recently decided on the outgoing SMPc for my first an only luxury watch - over a Pelagos bc of the thickness, the titanium just was a bit much. Still really like both watches. In a perfect world I’d own both, unquestionably. This is quality content - thanks!
Between these two watches, if I had to pick, I'd go with the Tudor.
Omega hands down, no contest..
Marc crying over his watches while filming. Really loves them.
One nitpick: the Omega movement is COSC certified. It’s then cases up and tested to METAS standards for the “Master Chronometer” designation.
The Pelagos is certified chronometer too (COSC). Though the tolerances are tighter with METAS, in reality I've seen better accuracy with the Tudor MT in-house movements than the METAS coaxials. I have one tudor which runs +0.5 SPD and another at +1.2 SPD.
Saying that, the Omega SMP has a 15,000 gauss anti-mag, which is technically insane (over 1,000,000 a/m), it's an overall better movement, but the Tudor in house are great movements too
@@8AP1 I think the point being made is that the Omega undergoes both certifications. My COSC+METAS certified AT is more accurate than my Rolex 114300 which is under +2 s/d straight from the factory. One thing you did not point out in your review is you can easily look up the Omega's test results whereas the Tudor does not offer this service? A great resource for verifying your watch's authenticity as well as how it performs.
@@8AP1 "in reality" as in the sample size of 1 for each of the brands?
@@rousseau327 in reality of most user experience. The general concensus is the MT56xx movements are extremely accurate. Both mine are less than a second a day. Most users report the same, freakishly good accuracy. Ask any watchmaker worth their salt and they'll tell you the same.
One thing with METAS is that it's guaranteed to be +, which is better IMO. A slightly fast is always better.
Finally, I'm not bagging omega, in fact I plan to get one.
@@8AP1 All that is anecdotal lol. And you'll only hear the very best and the very worst online. "mine is working great, so I'm gonna post about it". "Mine sucks, so I'm gonna post about it". And what ends up happening on these forums, is people will use the best anecdotal evidence to justify their purchase, and use the worst anecdotal evidence and say "well shit happens".
Both METAS and Superlative Chronometer from Rolex are beyond just a +/- rating, it's also the condition under which they're tested at. Basic COSC isn't the same, regardless of what anecdotal stories people have to tell.
Tudor lume, and handset legibility overall.
I try to love Omega and I will always recommend people check them out they are great watches. For me though I just don't like their looks. Id take the Tudor.
Same
Spoken like a true watch enthusiast. Even though it’s not for you, you can appreciate what they offer and see why others might gravitate toward it.
Pelagos. Power reserve, lume, water resistance, price. However, They belong to different caregories. A comparison with the Omega PO would be most interesting
I know this is late, but really helped me decide between the two sir. You excelled in the way you described each of their features. Thank you
If we just have a steel Pelagos...
The grayish color of the titanium is not growing on me, but between the two, I'd pick the Pelagos.
Subz same, love everything about pelagos except that, it's a dealbreaker. Maybe the "coin edge" or whatever its called is a bit too fine too.
Great video! I've watched several videos on these two watches. No one brings up a major factor that they should. Titanium is far superior to the stainless you get a much better product. Plus the fact that you get to bands gives you so much more versatility. The Pella goes with the win!
Got an LHD today, but now eyeing the Seamaster as the next piece for the collection. I need to go make more money...
To me both are keepers. I chose the pelagos (lhd) over b/c seamaster doesn't have taper on its bracelet.
Fantastic review Marc! You deserve greater recognition.
I tried on the Pelagos and it was chunky and I hated how it sat on my wrist. I own the the new SMP in blue and I love it.
The value is a little stronger on the Tudor - with the rubber strap and the lower price.
I'm all in on the Omega though. They KILLED it with the changes to that watch. It's really a nice watch and it can go from the beach to the boardroom
Late to the party here but I’ve owned both, it Pelagos is the better watch IMO. For some reason I wasn’t a fan of the omega bracelet, skeletonized hands, and bezel grip. Omega does have more polish which I know is a draw for many, the Tudor has a toolish look. At the end of the day they are both awesome watches with their own unique design signature, which is a win and rare with all the sub homages now days.
If you've got a nice edc versatile watch, the pelagos is a nice way to change things up. I'm thinking of the pelagos to compliment a rolex sub and gmt.
Second phist Great comparison review Marc! I think both are great watches.
Omega Chronograph 300 Diver FINALLY released today! Been waiting on that one Marc.
I wont do grade 2 titanium for a watch anymore. I absolutely hate how easily it stratches. Grade 5 is the only way to do titanium.
As a owner of the black Pelagos 42 I think my answer is self explanatory.
Pelagos always flies under the radar, doesn't give a F he's blingy, making it incredible easy to combo with different straps. I love how straight forward it is without unneeded bling. Makes for a more mature watch. That being said I wouldn't mind owning a SMP too but it's a bit too posh for me.
@@Jimmycricket- about 7" (~~17,5cm - 18cm)
@@Jimmycricket- No longer with me :(
But yeah, he was my daily. Light and comfortable. I liquidated him for a 124060 Submariner. Would've love keeping it, but you can't have everything in life
@@Jimmycricket- you won't regret it but the SMP is equally strong choice, now with the price increase of Rolex/Tudor
I own the SMP (2018) with the Blue dial, when looking for a couple of watches looked at it and the Pelagos, the Pelagos look flat and bland looking, winner SMP, but Tudor didn't lose out, I picked up a Black Bay Heritage (in-house movement) Burgandy Bezel as well. Both watches complement each other in my collection!
That’s actually an amazing idea. I’m going to do the same thing Thankyou so much for your idea / advice
Overall, the pelagos is the winner because it is much less expensive, the movement is great, and it has the longer power reserve and has the best strap.
Iagree with you regarding the Omega. It is an awesome watch.
Both really nice. I considered both at one time but ended up with a planet ocean. Great review.
TdTbMp great 👍 choice specially in second had or deep discount
Omega. Though I'll own an LHD as well, eventually.
Hi Marc, i have been torn between these 2 pieces for couple of months now.. until i saw this video of yours! thank you for bringing a point up which illuminated the battle torn mind of mine.. haahaa.. tudor may not have that ultra striking look when compared against this omega, but it does have an ever-green/blue look that can probably last longer within me. thanks ^
Tudor is my pick.. it’s a tool watch and Tudor made the better tool.
Both are too big and the Tudor is too thick, but I can't seem to get past the wart on the Omega. I wish they made a 40mm version of the Seamaster with no wart. Maybe there is in vintage. Good points you made Marc. good video for sure. Hope it will help people if they are having trouble deciding. Tudor does have a couple I like, blackbay in the 39mm and not as thick as the regular blackbay.
I'm a programmer, got a Pelagos 😀
If the Tudor had a more stainless steel look (like Grand Seiko uses on the Snowflake), then I would definitely own a Pelagos.
In the beginning of the video, I can read the time on the Tudor instantly while you hold them both up. It is a time piece ain’t it??!
I always assumed that if and hopefully when I indulged myself in buying a luxury watch, it would be an Omega, possibly a Rolex. I could never justify such an outlay, but back in 2014 when I got engaged, I felt it was the perfect opportunity to warrant such a purchase. Well, the lady gets a nice, expensive diamond ring, why shouldn’t us guys get something too...?!
I went in rather blind believing Rolex were the best of the best with their phenomenal marketing and image. As most watch enthusiasts will know, in reality they are second or even third tier compared to the truly esteemed giants like Patek Phillipe, Lange & Söhne etc. That is not to denigrate Rolex, I’d effectively be denigrating my own watch and some by doing so and Rolex is an utterly phenomenal brand with such a wide range of incredibly beautiful watches that I defy anyone not to fall in love with one. The Rolex Daytona Platinum Ice Blue is my such watch and I have no shame in admitting that is out of my price range...!
Anyway, with a budget of up to around £5k I started looking and began with Omega in confidence. While many of the watches were/ are great, when it came to one that I wanted to own, wear and pay my hard cash for, nothing truly spoke to me. The Omega Seamaster garnered obvious interest, but just didn’t do it for me, despite Omega getting much critical acclaim about their wonderful Co-Axial movement.
A touch despondent, I then looked at Rolex, a little reluctantly as I was put off by the admittedly subjective “look at me” stigma it would bring, but supremely confident I would fall in love with one nonetheless. Yet the more I looked, the more I was just underwhelmed and much as I love the aforementioned Daytona, even if I had that kind of money, it is a bit flash for me. The submariner range came closest to getting a bite, but just as with Omega, nothing that remotely convinced me. They were a little small, flashy/ glossy and I didn’t like the amount of text on the face. And I hate cyclops!
Utterly despondent, I began browsing all ranges. A few Tag (I know...) watches looked nice, but ultimately meh, then when all hope was lost, something called a Tudor Pelagos leapt out of the screen. I’d never even heard of Tudor... a little research and I soon learned what we all know, in very crude terms Tudor is effectively made by Rolex at affordable prices, but in real terms that does a complete disservice to the rich heritage and individuality of Tudor in its own right.
I loved that it was largely Rolex quality, but without the albeit subjective stigma’s that come with a Rolex. I loved that it looked like a submariner, but without the glossy, flashy elements. I loved that clean face/ dial with minimal, plain text as opposed to the cluttered, confusing dial of Rolex. The matt finish of the bezel and face made it majestically understated and wonderfully legible. The lume was resplendent, the clasp with its micro adjustments ingenious. The rubber strap included (though given the bracelets ingenuousness I have worn that almost exclusively). The snowflake hands, which after some research is a nod to the historical Tudor submariners that were provided to the French navy in the 1960’s, sums up much of the wonderful contradictions of the Pelagos; a contemporary, modern watch, yet with classic, historical connotations. And I simply adored that it was brushed titanium rather than shiny steel, a big preference for me. Oh, and it didn’t have cyclops!!! It just flew under the radar which I loved and was a watch you wouldn’t be frightened to wear, a proper tool watch. If ever a watch was made for James Bomd, this was/ is it ;-)
After more research than is probably healthy ;-) I looked in to the movement which of course is a massive thing for watch enthusiasts, probably the biggest thing for most and of course the (original) Pelagos has an ETA 2824 movement (albeit a high quality one with Tudor enhancements) rather than an in-house movement. Now I understand my conclusions will be an anathema to those that believe a luxury watch simply must have an in-house movement, but given there was little real world benefit as the Pelagos comfortably runs within chronometer specifications and some, I regarded it unimportant. It would be easier and cheaper to service and though investment potential was and is irrelevant to me, hindsight, whilst still currently subjective of course, indicates the original ETA Pelagos will be more of a collectible that the in-house 5 liner Pelagos given the original 2 liner was only manufactured for 3 years. It is also the first titanium watch made by either Tudor or Rolex. There is precedent of ETA watches, even for Rolex (technically a Valjoux as they were purchased by ETA in 1966) being more collectible than in-house versions.
So as you can probably guess, I bought the Tudor Pelagos and am absolutely delighted with it. Over 5 years later it is losing 1.9 seconds a day (this changes in the summer to around the same but gaining). The 5 liner is a beautiful watch too, I love the blue version, yet as per my stated enthusiasm for understated, non-flashy watches, I admire it yet wouldn’t want it. And I certainly prefer the 2 liner to the 5 as to me the original Pelagos is noticeably different to any Rolex which was a great allure for me, the 5 liner and the lines, pardon the pun, become more blurred. The loss of the marker at 3 is another negative on the new version, but which ever version you have, the Pelagos is amazing.
I’ve never quite understood why the Pelagos doesn’t garner far more acclaim, even playing second fiddle to the Tudor Black Bay, albeit a fine, wonderful watch in its own right. Maybe one day it will be remembered as it deserves to be, but in the mean time I will enjoy wearing it and admire its understated majesty every single day.
personally I would go with Tudor....Omega dial is too busy...maybe it's just me..I prefer simplistic looks.
With a suit? Why not get the black Pelagos. Boom!!
Off out to buy myself a Pelargos Blue tomorrow - unless anyone has better advice....
Like the design of the Pelagos much better than the Omega. If they would do a 40mm version of it, I would want one. Even better, in the combination of the lefty.
Both good watches but the Pelagos (LHD) is a better beater. The tool watch styling just works better on a daily basis when out and about or when at home doing chores and DIYing. Bought both around the same time in late 2018 and the Omega (black) has stayed in it's box ever since picking it up at the AD. It's a bit too glossy for mundane every day use but not quite smart enough for more special occasions. Was thinking about trading it in today but had a look at it for the first time this year and it is a good looking watch, so it's not going just yet. Horses for courses...
Pelagos all the way!
I appreciate a see-through caseback, especially on a water watch. Tudor is Rolex so they just cover it up. Omega wins in that category.
It’s a really great looking movement too, just picked one up and I make sure to look at it daily even if I didn’t wear the watch for the day
Seamaster looks like a transitioning college student not sure of it's identity....Pelagos, a seal. If you get it...you get it.
Thanks Marc!
Like both but sometimes the blue on the pelagos is a little too blue. Combined with the matte everything it felt a little off in terms of colors. I passed on the pelagos and own the blue version of the 2018 smp.
As I wear my SMPc (previous gen, 41mm, black lacquer dial) with a suit on a daily basis, my choice would be the dressier Omega, but the toolish Pelagos is awesome, too. Great timepieces!
Great video Marc!
Great comparison. The glass caseback encourages moisture/sweat to gather I find.
Going between the omega white dial 300 and the Tudor black bay 58 with the red aluminum bezel. I know the better watch is the omega but I do very much enjoy the style of the faux patina and vintage look of the bb58. But the white dial is mesmerizing aswell. Tough decisions
Pelogos for the better power reserve and that lumed Bezel looks great, good review, subbed to the channel.
I’ll be your huckleberry
*pelAgos
@@randallk2556 English class on You Tube 🙄😂
Great video Marc, both watches are great pieces 👌🏾⌚⌚⌚⌚⌚👍🏾
The omega has too much going on for me. The pelagos looks classy and understated.
The Omega without a moment's hesitation.
Interesting review Marc, thanks. Provides good comparison/contrast to my Planet Ocean. Cheers⌚✊
Omega fanboys are just as bad as Rolex.
The Pelagos is cheaper, has longer power reserve, is lighter, has better lume, is easier to read and is overall a better tool watch. That said, the Omega is a more luxurious piece. If I was going to own only one watch, Omega...hands down. Dress it up, dress it down, great re-sale, etc. But, if you already have a dressier piece (Rolex GMT, Breguet, Breitling, JLC, etc.) you may want to go with the Tudor.
Honestly, I'd do the Omega in black and the Tudor in blue...they are different enough (especially in in different colors) that they could easily be part of the same collection and not compete with each other for wrist time.
I like the Omega Aqua Terra GoodPlanet
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Great review like always, Marc.
Pelagus for me
Omega hands down
I don't WANT to HEAR the bezel turning. I only need to feel and see its location. I have been working toward buying the Diver 300M...in black. Tudor is too big-chunky-clunky...although I love the look of the lume in the Tudor bezel, the Omega dial & bezel have the far better look, materials, and legibility in the daylight. The Pelagos is CERTAINLY a tool and should be viewed as such. The Diver 300M is a tool watch that went to finishing school and spends its days in more well dressed company. The Omega is Art & Science to an excellent, superior standard. The Tudor is a perfectly optioned work truck.
Both excellent watches. Thanks for the great video
in boxing this is what you would call a DRAW. Both great watches. Flip a coin. Pick'em
Seamaster!
The infamous Omega wart is a a watch killer. The nod goes to Tudor. Cheers
my Omega smp with blue dial and waves shits all over the Tudor. Dressier, versatile and prices are slowly creeping up. Also, Bond connected and modern classic. Come at me Rolex bros, but this Omega smashes my Sub no date and I love it. At least from a tech spec. Lets be real, Tudor will always be rolexs little brother
Not sure why so much dislike for the helium valve screw. It’s unique.