It's been fun watching your journey with the VE trucks. I remember back in 2000 or so watching the hp wars with the ve. I remember breaking 300, 350, 400 then when you blew the internet up with the 600 plus pull. The early 2000's were the best times for diesel enthusiasts I think.
Hardly any aftermarket parts available back in those days. You really had to work with the stock stuff and modify it to make it do what it wasn't supposed to do. The crew cab is a much more refined 400+hp than old yellow was. The smoke level and driving manners are much more like a new truck with good throttle response and no idle haze. Old Yellow will be making a comeback though. 🙂
I put the s300G on my 89 several years ago. I am at 300 hp to the wheels but have the 727 so that is not bad. Pretty close to runaway with the stock non ic sticks. That is not a horrid price. I paid about a grand for mine long ago. I am on the original head gasket, and bolts so I don't push it any harder. Pretty fun at the power it has. I put the 99 all aluminum power stroke intercooler in at the same time.
It's incredible what you can do - with a little or a lot of knowledge - I totally respect your ability to work on that stuff and envy your skill. Another great video 👌
Awesome work. Not everyone is willing to go in depth about what's needed. One day I'll build another one. But, I enjoy generation 2 just a bit more. Also you and I emailed back about a dream shop bridge crane design a while back. I haven't given up. Just have to put in the work to make it come true. And I'm praying for it to begin this summer.
@bcbloc02 Absolutely. If you don't mind I'd like to get your input on materials. It's a bit early in the process. It's not urgent. I remember that you figured out what to build those gantry cranes with. Your is probably 10x what I'll ever need. In fact yours is like the holy grail of shop cranes on youtube.
O ya, and I paid big money for the " Stans exhaust " kit many moons ago, before diamond eye started producing half price kits. Stans was the only 4 inch back exhaust in the late 90's when I started hoppin up the 89.
Do you have any tricks to keep the little fuel pin that rides against the AFC fuel pin from sticking. Mine starts sticking once the motor gets up to full temp, when the motor is still cold it seems fine. I’ve taken it apart and tried several types of grease and oils on the pin. After a couple thousand miles it starts sticking again. I can tell because the truck will make 35lbs of boost fairly easily when it’s free, when it’s sticking it only builds about 20lbs, unless you put it to the floor. Thanks
@@bcbloc02 I’m anxiously awaiting seeing your dyno. in operation. I’ve seen enough bad things happen on a dyno. that I do now understand the importance of a separate building.
Working on a 92 4x4 shortbed build with a ve 12v build trans is built to handle just not getting any power out was wondering if I can contact you about questions
👍👍👍👍... A getrag can handle 1,000 ft lbs... I had two trucks at perhaps 300 hp and ?? Ft lbs.. both broke getrags... bearing's in one and input shaft in the other i think...i switched to auto truck's and learned to fix them eventually 🤣🤣.... don't matter..not that anyone cares about my experiences..lol..but anyway. Thank you for another video feller... keep on doing what you do...see ya next time 👍👍👊
@@bcbloc02👍👍 Right on...but I didn't even pull/ haul anything with either of those trucks..just had a heavy foot...and both G360's still broke..oh well,guess they just didn't like me🤣..but anyway 👍👊
I just state the facts as I have found them. I have not yet found a configuration of Holset that can make as much boost at as low an egt as the 300g. The 60-67 9 holset is a powerhouse but it runs hotter under load and with its small shaft and bearings its not as durable.
@@bcbloc02 yeah, I am not a turbo wizard but I do like seeing the banter back and forth between the two. I ordered a savage fab 9 cm housing for my sxe.
I had literally just unhooked from my dual tandem gooseneck before dynoing and that is 16000lbs between my truck and trailer. I regularly gross mid 20k and do fine, I probably can sustain low to mid 300rwhp levels and keep egts in check. At full kill and 3300rpm it’s like 1800f though so it would not live there long.
Hello Sir, I really want to do this recipe to mine just wondering if the power jet pdd injectors you bought were second gen ones that you adapted because on the website the power jets are all second gen. Also I really want the 300g but my buddy has a hx 35 w/ exhaust brake for 700. Do you think it will be ok?
It depends on your ultimate power goal. An hx35-12 is an excellent choice for 350rwhp and under. If you want to crank the pump up to that 400+rwhp range its going to be really high on egts. I found the VE powerjets on PDD website no problem. They list 3 stages I recommend the 2's. The 3 gives a touch more power but with noticeably more smoke for the limited gain I don't think it is really worth it.
Yes it appears to be a scam along the lines of the achates deal. There has been testing similar performed on aerodynamic mods to diesel pistons in sae papers. Their results were more in the -4 to 7% range for fuel improvements. Combustion dynamics is still to this day a complicated thing best proven out by imperial testing. Computer models still struggle with accurate prediction Any gains seen with these pistons likely come from other proven techniques that they employ like thermal and friction coatings along with ring changes for better cylinder sealing more so than from the dimples themselves.
@@bcbloc02 Plus they cost $3770.00 U.S. a set, starting for second gen and up only. Great channel Brian, watched you on Utube dynoing at Firepunk you did great, in my opinion. I have a 93 first gen. Keep up the great content!
@@franklogan494 Unless you mean 24v when you say 2nd gen you can swap any 12v piston with any other but of course you change compression and the design of the combustion chamber doing that. My truck is a work truck not a toy so it can't tolerate being as wild as most of those race toys.
Nope. I have run many configurations of hx35/40 stuff but not any particularly from power driven. I also have never run a k27 so i can't comment about them but they seem very similar to the s300g I ran for a long time just a little bit smaller.
@@bcbloc02 ok, thanks. I'm helping my kid put together his 1990 12v, and just looking for advice on turbos. He has a scheid injection pump, 7.3 intercooler, Hamilton valve springs, stock injectors for the time being, hvlp fuel pump. Won't ever tow more than 8k-10k if ever that. And its a manual. Any advice? Definitely more of a street truck for him
well for good fuel mileage good power and low egt the 174430 S300G is the way to go in my opinnion if you aren't shooting for over 450rwhp. If you want a little better spooling but with a little less power and egt control go with the K27. If you want all out ripping performance and don't mind a bit of lag and less longevity then the 60-64 aggressor
Hi Brian, I have an Automatic 93 Dodge 4x4, which Turbo would you recommend, it is a stock truck with upgraded Bd exhaust manifold, upgraded Ve pump and a above stock rebuilt transmission, no upgrades to the head bolts. And what brand of oil do you use? Thank you!
If you don’t have injectors the stock turbo will be just fine. If it still has the 18 or 21cm exhaust housing on it changing to a 12 will make it drive WAY better. Oh and I have used Deere 15w40 oil for years in all my vehicles. It is good stuff.
@@bcbloc02 Thank you you Brian, yes I have stock injectors, I live on the Westcoast and Smokey trucks are looked down on and receive unwanted attention. Thank you for the oil tip and I will see want is available.
@@bcbloc02 when I saw the JD battery in your truck I was like hmm got me thinking about oil. Thanks for your reply. I also do the same. In fact my truck just about stopped using oil when I made the switch. With rotella my truck would burn roughly 2 qts within 5000 miles. Now it's less than 1/4 qt I would estimate.
@@Wjones450 I was envolved with some of the Jdq testing several years ago before the plus 50 2 came out and I can say the Deere oil is impossible to beat for the price in an engine that is run hard especially if you take advantage of its extended drain interval. If you run rotella you better change it twice as often like Deere recommends because it won’t last like the Deere oil. I have seen it on the dyno and in the oilscan results.
It's been fun watching your journey with the VE trucks. I remember back in 2000 or so watching the hp wars with the ve. I remember breaking 300, 350, 400 then when you blew the internet up with the 600 plus pull. The early 2000's were the best times for diesel enthusiasts I think.
Hardly any aftermarket parts available back in those days. You really had to work with the stock stuff and modify it to make it do what it wasn't supposed to do. The crew cab is a much more refined 400+hp than old yellow was. The smoke level and driving manners are much more like a new truck with good throttle response and no idle haze. Old Yellow will be making a comeback though. 🙂
@@bcbloc02 Old Yellow is quite a benchmark, as far as diesels going down the track goes, I’ll be looking forward to seeing more of it.
@@bcbloc02 YAAY!
Well done Brian....lots of HP without having to get hp to buy it.
I put the s300G on my 89 several years ago. I am at 300 hp to the wheels but have the 727 so that is not bad. Pretty close to runaway with the stock non ic sticks. That is not a horrid price. I paid about a grand for mine long ago. I am on the original head gasket, and bolts so I don't push it any harder. Pretty fun at the power it has. I put the 99 all aluminum power stroke intercooler in at the same time.
great video, thanks for the good info, I'm going to bump mine up a bit, maybe not 400 lol
Well you can folly the same recipe and just don’t turn the fuel screw in as far. It would be just as happy making 300hp as 400hp.
Good information Brian.
Certainly alot of Performance.
Have a great day.
Thanks 👍
It's incredible what you can do - with a little or a lot of knowledge - I totally respect your ability to work on that stuff and envy your skill. Another great video 👌
Great video, thanks for sharing. Please more Cummins content
Awesome work. Not everyone is willing to go in depth about what's needed. One day I'll build another one. But, I enjoy generation 2 just a bit more.
Also you and I emailed back about a dream shop bridge crane design a while back. I haven't given up. Just have to put in the work to make it come true. And I'm praying for it to begin this summer.
Good luck! Bridge cranes are awesome, best thing I ever did in my shop.
@bcbloc02 Absolutely. If you don't mind I'd like to get your input on materials. It's a bit early in the process. It's not urgent. I remember that you figured out what to build those gantry cranes with. Your is probably 10x what I'll ever need. In fact yours is like the holy grail of shop cranes on youtube.
Great information. I love the no nonsense approach.
Another contribution from Mr. Block just makes my day.
Great overview, thanks Brian!
I bet that truck feels pretty snappy with a trailer hooked up.. great setup..
O ya, and I paid big money for the " Stans exhaust " kit many moons ago, before diamond eye started producing half price kits. Stans was the only 4 inch back exhaust in the late 90's when I started hoppin up the 89.
Great job thanks for sharing your knowledge on hp.👍
Brian your mechanical knowledge is impressive.
Thanks for spending the time to share this information Brian. Best Wishes to You and Your Family.
Amazed again by Brian. Thanks for sharing.
Very nice results Brian your awesome!!!!
keep up the good work. thanks for sharing.
Thank you for another great video. Cheers
Kentucky windage and elevation for the win. Blessings
Thanks
Whoa, 235 extra bolt on horsepower 😮
oh my God
Way cool 😎
Some good information 👍
Do you have any tricks to keep the little fuel pin that rides against the AFC fuel pin from sticking. Mine starts sticking once the motor gets up to full temp, when the motor is still cold it seems fine. I’ve taken it apart and tried several types of grease and oils on the pin. After a couple thousand miles it starts sticking again. I can tell because the truck will make 35lbs of boost fairly easily when it’s free, when it’s sticking it only builds about 20lbs, unless you put it to the floor. Thanks
You need to borrow a sled and chassis dyno... and lets get a youtube get together in kentucky and we can all bring our diesels and give it a try
Maybe in a few years. I am working on my own dyno setup but it needs its own building. $$$$ and time..............
@@bcbloc02 I’m anxiously awaiting seeing your dyno. in operation. I’ve seen enough bad things happen on a dyno. that I do now understand the importance of a separate building.
Working on a 92 4x4 shortbed build with a ve 12v build trans is built to handle just not getting any power out was wondering if I can contact you about questions
@@jeremiahblake1427 sure shoot me an email. It’s under the about section for my channel if you use a desktop
How ya been doing Mr. B ?
Busy!
👍👍👍👍... A getrag can handle 1,000 ft lbs... I had two trucks at perhaps 300 hp and ?? Ft lbs.. both broke getrags... bearing's in one and input shaft in the other i think...i switched to auto truck's and learned to fix them eventually 🤣🤣.... don't matter..not that anyone cares about my experiences..lol..but anyway. Thank you for another video feller... keep on doing what you do...see ya next time 👍👍👊
That is why I pull heavy in direct it saves the trans. 😀
@@bcbloc02👍👍 Right on...but I didn't even pull/ haul anything with either of those trucks..just had a heavy foot...and both G360's still broke..oh well,guess they just didn't like me🤣..but anyway 👍👊
Oh boy... I can hear the Holset boys clanking away on their keyboards! 😅
I just state the facts as I have found them. I have not yet found a configuration of Holset that can make as much boost at as low an egt as the 300g. The 60-67 9 holset is a powerhouse but it runs hotter under load and with its small shaft and bearings its not as durable.
@@bcbloc02 yeah, I am not a turbo wizard but I do like seeing the banter back and forth between the two. I ordered a savage fab 9 cm housing for my sxe.
@@decentgarage can’t wait to here how you like it and how it compares for egts towing.
@@bcbloc02 yeah, I'm going I'm going to test it again the stock sxe as a single and then test the stock vs 9cm housing in compounds
What are your egt's with this set up?Is towing going to make it super hot? Please and thank you
I had literally just unhooked from my dual tandem gooseneck before dynoing and that is 16000lbs between my truck and trailer. I regularly gross mid 20k and do fine, I probably can sustain low to mid 300rwhp levels and keep egts in check. At full kill and 3300rpm it’s like 1800f though so it would not live there long.
Hello Sir, I really want to do this recipe to mine just wondering if the power jet pdd injectors you bought were second gen ones that you adapted because on the website the power jets are all second gen. Also I really want the 300g but my buddy has a hx 35 w/ exhaust brake for 700. Do you think it will be ok?
It depends on your ultimate power goal. An hx35-12 is an excellent choice for 350rwhp and under. If you want to crank the pump up to that 400+rwhp range its going to be really high on egts. I found the VE powerjets on PDD website no problem. They list 3 stages I recommend the 2's. The 3 gives a touch more power but with noticeably more smoke for the limited gain I don't think it is really worth it.
Thank you for the reply!@@bcbloc02
I call bullshit on the company saying putting dimples in diesel pistons increases the efficiency 50 percent. What’s your thoughts?
They'd be bought out by an engine manufacturer if that were true.
Yes it appears to be a scam along the lines of the achates deal. There has been testing similar performed on aerodynamic mods to diesel pistons in sae papers. Their results were more in the -4 to 7% range for fuel improvements. Combustion dynamics is still to this day a complicated thing best proven out by imperial testing. Computer models still struggle with accurate prediction Any gains seen with these pistons likely come from other proven techniques that they employ like thermal and friction coatings along with ring changes for better cylinder sealing more so than from the dimples themselves.
@@bcbloc02 Plus they cost $3770.00 U.S. a set, starting for second gen and up only. Great channel Brian, watched you on Utube dynoing at Firepunk you did great, in my opinion. I have a 93 first gen. Keep up the great content!
@@franklogan494 Unless you mean 24v when you say 2nd gen you can swap any 12v piston with any other but of course you change compression and the design of the combustion chamber doing that. My truck is a work truck not a toy so it can't tolerate being as wild as most of those race toys.
@@bcbloc02 Thank you Brian for letting me know the difference, it sure helps.
Any experience with powerdrivendiesels hx-35 aggressor turbo, or the borg warner k27?
Nope. I have run many configurations of hx35/40 stuff but not any particularly from power driven. I also have never run a k27 so i can't comment about them but they seem very similar to the s300g I ran for a long time just a little bit smaller.
@@bcbloc02 ok, thanks. I'm helping my kid put together his 1990 12v, and just looking for advice on turbos. He has a scheid injection pump, 7.3 intercooler, Hamilton valve springs, stock injectors for the time being, hvlp fuel pump. Won't ever tow more than 8k-10k if ever that. And its a manual. Any advice? Definitely more of a street truck for him
@@frankventura6710 you going for fuel mileage and drivability or ripping and running more?
Somewhere in the middle, if that exists.....
well for good fuel mileage good power and low egt the 174430 S300G is the way to go in my opinnion if you aren't shooting for over 450rwhp. If you want a little better spooling but with a little less power and egt control go with the K27. If you want all out ripping performance and don't mind a bit of lag and less longevity then the 60-64 aggressor
Hi Brian, I have an Automatic 93 Dodge 4x4, which Turbo would you recommend, it is a stock truck with upgraded Bd exhaust manifold, upgraded Ve pump and a above stock rebuilt transmission, no upgrades to the head bolts. And what brand of oil do you use? Thank you!
If you don’t have injectors the stock turbo will be just fine. If it still has the 18 or 21cm exhaust housing on it changing to a 12 will make it drive WAY better. Oh and I have used Deere 15w40 oil for years in all my vehicles. It is good stuff.
@@bcbloc02 Thank you you Brian, yes I have stock injectors, I live on the Westcoast and Smokey trucks are looked down on and receive unwanted attention. Thank you for the oil tip and I will see want is available.
Hey Brian, I work for a JD dealer in the north east. Do you run Plus 50 II in your trucks? Whats your take on it? Thanks for any input
Yes I run the regular 15-40 most of the year and the 0w-40 in the winter.
@@bcbloc02 when I saw the JD battery in your truck I was like hmm got me thinking about oil. Thanks for your reply. I also do the same. In fact my truck just about stopped using oil when I made the switch. With rotella my truck would burn roughly 2 qts within 5000 miles. Now it's less than 1/4 qt I would estimate.
@@Wjones450 I was envolved with some of the Jdq testing several years ago before the plus 50 2 came out and I can say the Deere oil is impossible to beat for the price in an engine that is run hard especially if you take advantage of its extended drain interval. If you run rotella you better change it twice as often like Deere recommends because it won’t last like the Deere oil. I have seen it on the dyno and in the oilscan results.