In this video I address multiple plroblems but its all just common stuff most of us have to deal with at some point. I hope you enjoy sharing in the struggle!
Class, today Brian will demonstrate the physics of how a lug nut can't be tight if the stud is liquid. Nice save Brian! I've had to get creative before but never to the point of needing a torch to remove a wheel.
i had one come in the shop the same way i started drilling in the center of the stud and kept going larger and larger until the nut fell off and then replaced the stud
Damn,, I was hoping you were going to take the fork lift, turn the truck on it's side and use the Radial Arm Drill to take care of that little problem... Oh Well, Maybe next time :)
Getting to where you can't trust or depend on anyone anymore. Glad that you got the tire off. Good to see you back on. I was wondering why I had not seen you for awhile Brian. Have a great weekend.
I agree. Too much blind confidence and arrogance in the world. Typically if you point out their mistakes people just get upset. Best to work on your own stuff whenever possible. I still haven't found a good dentist.
We had that years ago with our runabout van on our farm. Gas-axe'd the stuck nut off on a Sunday morning in the rain so mum could get to church withe 4 inflated tyres.. On the Monday we drove it to tyre shop and made them remove all the wheels and refit them with hand tools only. Never went back there again.
Going full Gonzo is always an option. I keep a 1/2" breaker bar and a 13/16" deep well. Covers the truck, and all of my trailers, and most everybody else's trailers too.
This happened to my brother once,got 4 new tyres one day and went to replace the brake pads the next only to spend several hours undoing the wheal nuts.Once he got the wheals off he checked the studs and they were all stretched out of spec.He billed the shop for the costs.
Not much sense in spending energy on angry side quests, at least that’s my point of view. I know as soon as I start thinking emotionally rather than rationally a hard job will only get more difficult, and quickly as energy resources get more and more depleted. Best of luck on future jobs.
👍👍.. it's either that or the wheel comes rallying right off cause the tire shop didn't tighten them enough 🤣🤣had that happen to a Dakota in fact... regardless, wheel fasteners and any other probably need to be tightened to the proper amount..no more,no less...🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣but anyway thanks for the video feller 👍👍👊
I had to do an off road driving course to use mine site roads and part of the class was change a wheel,part of that was get the torque right 50-60 foot pounds only needs a one foot tyre iron and your body weight kneeling next to the wheel.
@@mathewritchie, In today’s world everyone needs to take a Drivers Education course to get their driver’s license. I think part of that course should involve learning how to change a tire, boys and girls alike. You never know when a situation comes around and you can’t even operate a Jack to get a tire off.
And since a tire coming loose would be a clear liability, they just torque them to max and be done with it. If you can't get your tire off later or the lug or bold strip off, that's not as clearly their fault, so they go that route...
I have at least two people a week come to me with wheels that other folks can’t remove; and I’m in the ghetto within walking distance of about ten used tire dealers. My torch is pretty much my most useful tool for removing stuck wheels, well living in the rust belt, it’s pretty much my most useful tool period.
Good save Brian. Why can't people properly tighten a simple wheel nut. They usually rattle it on till the air gun stops, then the torque wrench goes click so it must be good. If the nut doesn't move some with the torque wrench you don't know if it was over torqued. You know that, I am just stating it for others to read. I have not been able to torch of lug nuts on customer's vehicles, they would cry about the flame marks and want a new wheel. If a lug nut will not loosen on a passenger vehicle, I will try tightening it till the stud breaks. I sometimes have to drill out the center of the stud to do so, but one turn tight or 20 turns loose over FUBAR"d threads is usually easier. Then the assembly gets all new studs and nuts, because I can't trust the last person that started this problem. Again this rant isn't against you Brian I know your experience and you always do a great job. I just wanted to share my experience with this problem. Keep up the great. Thanks for sharing.
today's cars have Lugnuts with a Crome cover. they often with usage will round and start spinning. as a long time auto technician i am aware of a lot of quick and easy ways to deal with this that sometimes are very quick and easy. they do not always work and sometimes you still have to go the long way. so the long way is to use a pair of vise grips to pull the chrome cover. then use the remaining nut as a pilot, then drill the stud until all threads are gone. this might take a little longer but it is the exception to the rule. it will work every single time if executed properly. using a cutting torch requires a lot of technique. what i am talking about requires a cordless drill and some good drill bits. 12mm or 7/16 stud = 7/16 cobalt drill . if you do this you will save all of the other parts rim, rotor, hub, what ever els.
Years ago I worked with a guy that showed up late for work one day - same thing happened to him. He was strong like bear and actually bent a cross style lug nut wrench trying to get the wheel off, but was not able to. I guess this kind of thing has been going on for at least 60 years - there's always some ape ready to mess things up.
I ran into a similar situation with my wife's car last week.....was rotating the tires and the stupid anti theft lug key broke, halfway through. I considered the torch, but ended up using a piece of pipe and 6011 welding rod for the win!
I always appreciate whatever you choose to share. Last year I twisted to lug nuts off of my ol' "Ponniac Stunfinder"... it feels good to break and then repair stuff eh? Thank you from Canada, eh? 😊
It’s funny how most tire shops have signs that say to retorque wheels after such and such mileage but yet they can’t seem to get it right. My go to is usually welding a nut to the stripped out wheel nut but those wheels looked like that maybe wasn’t an option
Over here the tyre fitters have either a regulation or at least a gentleman's agreement or code of conduct that says the final tightening is done with a torque wrench not am impact set to full.
Last time I had a tire fitted by a shop I needed double the correct torque to loosen it again. Apparently a $20 torque wrench is too expensive or the 30 seconds to use them too inconvenient. Fuck them, I change my tires myself. And this is in Germany, the land of overengineering...
Had to replace a rear wheel bearing on my son's car, the hardest part was removing the lug nuts, over torqued and rusted on, when I finished I went around and loosened the other wheels, just a dab of antisize and retorqued at proper spec.
My brother had Walmart change his oil. When he went to change the oil, he could not remove the drain plug. He took it back to Walmart and they could not remove it either. Walmart paid the local Ford dealer to remove the drain plug.
Tightened with the wrong size socket I bet. A lot of people are worried about tires coming loose from a lot of reports of them coming off so they over tighten them. Metric nuts usually get confused for standard.
I was wondering if you could have attacked the lug stud from the back of the hub? Either way, nice work with not destroying the rim in the process; I cannot trust myself to be that gentle with a torch yet.
Would have had to taken the wheel bearings off and pulled the whole hub to go after the back of the stud. Not sure I could get the caliper off without getting the wheel off though.
Anybody who has a Chrysler product, get a new set of aftermarket lug nuts, take the factory nuts off and recycle them as scrap metal. You will find many videos of how to remove them after the outer hex strips off.
It's hard to be sure with the ball cap in the way, but it looks like he's cutting with no eye protection. I'm imagining some crusty old surgeon looking at Brian's eye in the ER shaking his head and saying "Well, this aint good".
5'll do it. I used to pop one on the front right on an RD grossing 80K here about every 2 weeks. Slowed down in a left hand curve a little. Never pupped another. Glad you made it and them boys need no cheaters. Blessings
Remember years ago took a truck to the tire depot, to get it off guy used the normal airgun, nope, biggie airgun, nope, 4 foot breaker bar jumping up and down on it - he were'nt a ballerina either, about 200 +pounds - nope, 4 foot long scaffold pole cheater jumping up and down until "COIK!" Real loud!
@@Hoaxer51 I have 10 other dogs but none of them are like Baily. Baily could be left to do his own thing and everything was fine. The other dogs are like toddlers and I don’t have time to deal with that so I rarely have them in the shop.
They would likely say they there are no guarantee that they were the last to work on the vehicle. When I have tires installed, I ask to see the torque value on the wrench. A word of caution, don’t apply a lubricant to the threads or the nut during installation. It will reduce nut factor significantly, so when torque per spec is applied you will have an over-torqued condition. The OEM spec is for clean dry threads.
I was half way expecting you to use the cummins swapped hyster to set the dakota up on the boring mill... lol. good job though!
😂 that would have been great to see but the excellent torch work was good
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Class, today Brian will demonstrate the physics of how a lug nut can't be tight if the stud is liquid.
Nice save Brian!
I've had to get creative before but never to the point of needing a torch to remove a wheel.
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i had one come in the shop the same way i started drilling in the center of the stud and kept going larger and larger until the nut fell off and then replaced the stud
That's probably what I would do too
Cross threads is better than Lock Tight ! Thank you for another great video. Cheers
Damn,, I was hoping you were going to take the fork lift, turn the truck on it's side and use the Radial Arm Drill to take care of that little problem... Oh Well, Maybe next time :)
Brian you are making my knees ache. 😊😊
Got a huge shop, time for a lift, working on the ground can wear one out real quick.
Getting to where you can't trust or depend on anyone anymore.
Glad that you got the tire off.
Good to see you back on.
I was wondering why I had not seen you for awhile Brian.
Have a great weekend.
I agree. Too much blind confidence and arrogance in the world. Typically if you point out their mistakes people just get upset. Best to work on your own stuff whenever possible. I still haven't found a good dentist.
@@AmosMosesJr, Nowadays people want a trophy for just doing their job! Lol
We had that years ago with our runabout van on our farm. Gas-axe'd the stuck nut off on a Sunday morning in the rain so mum could get to church withe 4 inflated tyres..
On the Monday we drove it to tyre shop and made them remove all the wheels and refit them with hand tools only. Never went back there again.
Going full Gonzo is always an option. I keep a 1/2" breaker bar and a 13/16" deep well. Covers the truck, and all of my trailers, and most everybody else's trailers too.
I feel your pain, found over-torqued lugs when I had a flat and the barely adequate factory "wrench" folded in half trying to loosen the nuts..
Just commenting to feed the algorithm Brian. Best Wishes to everyone.
May as well add a little more, Happy Easter!
Me too
This happened to my brother once,got 4 new tyres one day and went to replace the brake pads the next only to spend several hours undoing the wheal nuts.Once he got the wheals off he checked the studs and they were all stretched out of spec.He billed the shop for the costs.
You are a lot more calm that I am . Good job.
Not much sense in spending energy on angry side quests, at least that’s my point of view. I know as soon as I start thinking emotionally rather than rationally a hard job will only get more difficult, and quickly as energy resources get more and more depleted.
Best of luck on future jobs.
👍👍.. it's either that or the wheel comes rallying right off cause the tire shop didn't tighten them enough 🤣🤣had that happen to a Dakota in fact... regardless, wheel fasteners and any other probably need to be tightened to the proper amount..no more,no less...🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣but anyway thanks for the video feller 👍👍👊
I had to do an off road driving course to use mine site roads and part of the class was change a wheel,part of that was get the torque right 50-60 foot pounds only needs a one foot tyre iron and your body weight kneeling next to the wheel.
@@mathewritchie, In today’s world everyone needs to take a Drivers Education course to get their driver’s license. I think part of that course should involve learning how to change a tire, boys and girls alike. You never know when a situation comes around and you can’t even operate a Jack to get a tire off.
And since a tire coming loose would be a clear liability, they just torque them to max and be done with it. If you can't get your tire off later or the lug or bold strip off, that's not as clearly their fault, so they go that route...
I have at least two people a week come to me with wheels that other folks can’t remove; and I’m in the ghetto within walking distance of about ten used tire dealers. My torch is pretty much my most useful tool for removing stuck wheels, well living in the rust belt, it’s pretty much my most useful tool period.
Good save Brian. Why can't people properly tighten a simple wheel nut. They usually rattle it on till the air gun stops, then the torque wrench goes click so it must be good. If the nut doesn't move some with the torque wrench you don't know if it was over torqued. You know that, I am just stating it for others to read. I have not been able to torch of lug nuts on customer's vehicles, they would cry about the flame marks and want a new wheel. If a lug nut will not loosen on a passenger vehicle, I will try tightening it till the stud breaks. I sometimes have to drill out the center of the stud to do so, but one turn tight or 20 turns loose over FUBAR"d threads is usually easier. Then the assembly gets all new studs and nuts, because I can't trust the last person that started this problem. Again this rant isn't against you Brian I know your experience and you always do a great job. I just wanted to share my experience with this problem. Keep up the great. Thanks for sharing.
Torch tip is leaking where it tightens into cutting attachment. That’s the regular light popping that’s going on
today's cars have Lugnuts with a Crome cover. they often with usage will round and start spinning. as a long time auto technician i am aware of a lot of quick and easy ways to deal with this that sometimes are very quick and easy. they do not always work and sometimes you still have to go the long way. so the long way is to use a pair of vise grips to pull the chrome cover. then use the remaining nut as a pilot, then drill the stud until all threads are gone. this might take a little longer but it is the exception to the rule. it will work every single time if executed properly. using a cutting torch requires a lot of technique. what i am talking about requires a cordless drill and some good drill bits. 12mm or 7/16 stud = 7/16 cobalt drill . if you do this you will save all of the other parts rim, rotor, hub, what ever els.
Yep drilling probably the safer better option. I was pretty upset at this point and relished the more violent approach to relieve frustrations. Lol
Years ago I worked with a guy that showed up late for work one day - same thing happened to him. He was strong like bear and actually bent a cross style lug nut wrench trying to get the wheel off, but was not able to. I guess this kind of thing has been going on for at least 60 years - there's always some ape ready to mess things up.
torch wrench beats torque wrench every time. good job!
I ran into a similar situation with my wife's car last week.....was rotating the tires and the stupid anti theft lug key broke, halfway through. I considered the torch, but ended up using a piece of pipe and 6011 welding rod for the win!
I always appreciate whatever you choose to share. Last year I twisted to lug nuts off of my ol' "Ponniac Stunfinder"... it feels good to break and then repair stuff eh? Thank you from Canada, eh? 😊
Happy Sunday Brian! 😂
It’s funny how most tire shops have signs that say to retorque wheels after such and such mileage but yet they can’t seem to get it right. My go to is usually welding a nut to the stripped out wheel nut but those wheels looked like that maybe wasn’t an option
Good Old Country ingenuity
Yeah, I've had troubles with tire store workmanship. They need to stop using Thermonuclear Air Tools to mount wheels. Good job as always, Brian.
You're a very patient man........if that's all you had to say. (I doubt that.)
Only Brian could melt out a steel stud inside an cast aluminum part.
Over here the tyre fitters have either a regulation or at least a gentleman's agreement or code of conduct that says the final tightening is done with a torque wrench not am impact set to full.
Last time I had a tire fitted by a shop I needed double the correct torque to loosen it again. Apparently a $20 torque wrench is too expensive or the 30 seconds to use them too inconvenient. Fuck them, I change my tires myself. And this is in Germany, the land of overengineering...
300lb gorillas can ruin a guys day ...
Far less swearing than I would have ...
5 is more than enough!
Thanks for sharing 🇨🇦
Good to see you Brian. No nut is too tight for the blue wrench.
Brian. I thought you would have a torque multiplier in your toolbox, they are excellent for getting over tightened lug nuts loose.👍🏴
If there had been sides left of the nut that could have worked but since it was rounded off I could no longer apply torque.
Had to replace a rear wheel bearing on my son's car, the hardest part was removing the lug nuts, over torqued and rusted on, when I finished I went around and loosened the other wheels, just a dab of antisize and retorqued at proper spec.
I'm so glad you are not my mechanic...
Why ?
Tire store got me too. Wrung off 3. 2 lugs going 70.
My brother had Walmart change his oil. When he went to change the oil, he could not remove the drain plug. He took it back to Walmart and they could not remove it either. Walmart paid the local Ford dealer to remove the drain plug.
Been there before, had to centre punch and drill 6 of them out.
Too many ugga duggas, but the torch won in the end!
There was me hoping Brian would lift the truck onto the horizontal mill and bore them out 😂
Wow, that was tough. Nice you got it off.
Don’t know why some people think they got to torque a wheel lug to a million foot lbs!!! Geeeez
Tightened with the wrong size socket I bet. A lot of people are worried about tires coming loose from a lot of reports of them coming off so they over tighten them. Metric nuts usually get confused for standard.
Lug studs usually drill pretty easy.
I was wondering if you could have attacked the lug stud from the back of the hub?
Either way, nice work with not destroying the rim in the process; I cannot trust myself to be that gentle with a torch yet.
Would have had to taken the wheel bearings off and pulled the whole hub to go after the back of the stud. Not sure I could get the caliper off without getting the wheel off though.
Anybody who has a Chrysler product, get a new set of aftermarket lug nuts, take the factory nuts off and recycle them as scrap metal. You will find many videos of how to remove them after the outer hex strips off.
It seems that tyre fitters are the same the world over. I had the same problem here in Wales. Fortunately the 4ft pipe did the trick.
I feel your pain, brother I have had similar experiences
Typical 1 bolt turns a 10 min. job into 3 hour project.
Cant be stuck if it's liquid
be worried if that's a mag wheel
Brand new looking old spares don't generally last too long before letting you down.
It's hard to be sure with the ball cap in the way, but it looks like he's cutting with no eye protection. I'm imagining some crusty old surgeon looking at Brian's eye in the ER shaking his head and saying "Well, this aint good".
Maybe a little housekeeping is in order for the shop?
Was that an aluminum rim?
I was wondering that too, might be better to attack from the back
Had an 03 same thing happened, miserable job!!
...=this= is why I hate torque-sticks.
When you whipped your phone out, I was expecting you were gonna call them up to issue a bollocking.
How come the torch didn't destroy the alloy?
Because I cut the stud out of the nut. Not the nut off of the stud. That way the old nut acted as a shield for the wheel.
That is a heck of a note because some crackhead over torqued it.
5'll do it. I used to pop one on the front right on an RD grossing 80K here about every 2 weeks. Slowed down in a left hand curve a little. Never pupped another. Glad you made it and them boys need no cheaters. Blessings
I bring my tires to the store in me friends truck. I don't trust them.
Remember years ago took a truck to the tire depot, to get it off guy used the normal airgun, nope, biggie airgun, nope, 4 foot breaker bar jumping up and down on it - he were'nt a ballerina either, about 200 +pounds - nope, 4 foot long scaffold pole cheater jumping up and down until "COIK!" Real loud!
I bet they bent the rotor too
That sucks
That stud did not have a chance with Brian on the job
Sounds like your burning tip was leaking acetylene. --Doozer
Wth its gas!?!?!
If it wasn’t that its frame is going to dissolve from rust I would make it a diesel. When it does die at least it’s no real loss.
wow
Brian I haven't seen Bailey in a long time . Is he okay?
Baily passed away September of 2022 at the young age of 17yr 3 months 😭I sure do miss him!
Time for a new pup?
Pup ❤
@@Hoaxer51 I have 10 other dogs but none of them are like Baily. Baily could be left to do his own thing and everything was fine. The other dogs are like toddlers and I don’t have time to deal with that so I rarely have them in the shop.
Go talk to the manager or owner of the shop and make them watch this video. They need to compensate you.
They would likely say they there are no guarantee that they were the last to work on the vehicle. When I have tires installed, I ask to see the torque value on the wrench. A word of caution, don’t apply a lubricant to the threads or the nut during installation. It will reduce nut factor significantly, so when torque per spec is applied you will have an over-torqued condition. The OEM spec is for clean dry threads.
Would of been faster and easier to just drill it out....and the finish on the wheel would still be there...
Yeah but the video would have been boring AF. At least we got something to watch and comment on. Its a beater salt truck, I think he DGAF.
Extreme distaste for this problem! Thanks for the looksee. Always enjoy.
Well it doesn't get much worse than that
Good ole victor wrench to git R done