If he was such a "good friend" he would have more info about the state of his cancer over the last two years instead of calling to ask for his money. With friends like these...
15 years ago I went in business with a husband and wife. We each owned 33.3%. At the end of he 2nd year we had really grown the business and at the end of the year I got with the account and got the final reports and realized they were using company money for personal things. I was somewhat okay for that. They took their year end bonus and my portion was $100,000. She said, we can't pay you we don't have it. Then the next day she said, "We're going to let you go and pay you 2 weeks salary" I laughed and said, "You can buy me out, I'm an owner but you can't fire me" LOL I ended up letting them buy me out, but instead of taking it all at once I gave them 3 months. Always have a contract.
@@dioltlw3144 No when we started the company we used attorney's and it was all on paper, she thought she could pull a fast one. She KNEW I was part owner, she had a copy of the contract.
@@John3.36 Exactly, she was a crook and he was really a good guy. After I left, I didn't talk to them for 5-6 years then one day he accidentally called my cell thinking it was someone else. We had a good conversation and by now I was running a national company. I ended up sub-contracting some work to him and we both made nice money. I ended up doing business with him subbing to him for about 5 years before I retired. I never spoke to her.
Medicaid is helpful. Also self-pay rates are much less expensive. I had to pay out-of-pocket for my first pregnancy/labor/delivery. The epidural was billed at $7K. I called and asked if that was the self-pay rate, and it dropped to $1,400. I still don't have health insurance, but we belong to a co-op (Zion Healthshare) that covers big medical expenses.
Two possible scenarios. First, he did have cancer, died (but that does not explain the phone still connected or why next of kin didn't tell you to go away). Second, he lied about the cancer and has ghosted you. My money is on the second.
Why not go to his house and talk to the guy. As she said business is business and if he's as bad as he is then you can decide what to do from there but I'm stuck with...2 years ago!?!?
That was the case with my biz partner. The doctors are really bad about finding some cancers and just gave him pain killers for what he thought was back pain for nearly a year. It was kidney cancer.
I would have at least visited him when he talked about his health issue..just out of humanity...now he doesn't even know if he is alive!! If the man is alive and struggling forget about the 8k man.....if he still alive, evasive or lied ... then legal letter from lawer straightforward
ugh, I’d let it go. At this point, if the guy was going to pay it back, he would’ve. I’m not sure spending resources going after him is worth the 8k or the time…
Just go and pay him a visit first, before we jump to conclusions🙄 people act like they can't go to anyone's home and visit anymore or call....its text, text ,text.
Seriously. Somebody was aggressively trying to get back in my life, and after weeks of strange behavior and communication, a quick drive-by of their home without tapping the brakes gave me all the info i needed. They had 2 opportunities after that to counteract my opinion of them but it was more lies. On another note. It's $8k, forgive him and move on. I'm with Deloney, your either giving grace, or removing a foul stench from your life. Both choices are better than wasting, time, money, and energy pursuing this.
Seriously. Somebody was aggressively trying to get back in my life, and after weeks of strange behavior and communication, a quick drive-by of their home without tapping the brakes gave me all the info i needed. They had 2 opportunities after that to counteract my opinion of them but it was more lies. On another note. It's $8k, forgive him and move on. I'm with Deloney, your either giving grace, or removing a foul stench from your life. Both choices are better than wasting, time, money, and energy pursuing this.
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Chances are the guy does not have the money and is therefore not going to pay it willingly. Which means dragging him to court, winning a judgement, and then going through further steps to have any wages garnished or property confiscated which may not ever happen. If he's not willing to go through a long battle he's probably not getting his money back.
Has he gone to him in person ? Was there a written agreement? If not Delaney is right, 2 years of texting is useless. Either man up and go face to face, or let it go.
Not nearly enough info here. What did they do together before? Is it a career position or just some job? Is he still visible out there, social media, LinkedIn, etc? Is he out there still doing stuff, is he dead, did you give $8,000 to some scammer who tended bar with you, what’s the deal here?
Did they have a health plan attached to the business? If so, he might be mad the caller took it away from him when he really needed it. Also took away his income by insisting the business be closed down.
Started the biz with a good friend two years ago. A year later the friend told him he had cancer. I sent him one text. Now, it's been about two years? And, we just kinda knew each other. 😂
He corrected himself immediately after the good part and said he only knew him professionally. The entire call he talked like he wasn't close with the guy
Sometimes you have to write off losses and move on. I think the equation is that it takes 3 times as many gains to emotionally cover a particular dollar amount that is a loss. Even if the gain has nothing to do with the loss.
Evidently you've never been around someone seriously ill with cancer. In reality, they are laid up and on their phone almost constantly because that's the only thing they have energy to do.
People change their phone numbers. He doesn’t even know if he’s alive?? Worrying for years and calling a radio show instead of finding out if he’s alive
It wasn't confusing at all, he may have considered him a good friend because of trust/ respect but he immediately clarified by stating he only knew him professionally
With him being a single dad and has cancer on top of it, he wouldn’t have the money to pay back. I would just think of the 8k as a donation and move on with my life. I know it’s a decent amount of money but if you are well off than him I think it’s not worth the time and energy to try to get that money due to his circumstances. God will bless you triple that amount in the future.
Please listen to John because he is compassionate and caring. Let go of getting the money back and release it to the universe and you will get it back in a different way. Did you find out if the guy with the cancer is Alive or he is doing okay? I have been in your situation two times and I let it go and put in God’s hand.
The business should have had the money not having each to pay half. Also, does the other guy not have a social media like FB where you can see if he's still posting?
They didn't really ask the important question till the last second hut if hes actually had like ZERO contact in 2+ years....how does he even know if hes alive still?
If he was an honest man he would let you know how he is doing and if he can pay you back. Sounds like he is not interested in paying if he cans or not.
The guy host is not listening to the caller. They are business associates, not good friends. Also, I would verify the guy actually had cancer and is still sick. He may have just wanted a way out of the business, and made up cancer because it's hard to ask anything of someone with cancer without feeling like the bad guy.
Thats such a stupid take because the debt was working for the business, and its probably a fair assumption from what the caller said that everything was going fine with the business, it makes no sense to make up a cancer story all of a sudden when everything was going fine. Its probably fair to assume if things kept rolling either way the business the debt would have continued to not be a problem, vast majority of businesses run on debt
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"Just know him profesionally" is not considered "a good friend of mine"
If he was such a "good friend" he would have more info about the state of his cancer over the last two years instead of calling to ask for his money. With friends like these...
You know he clarified that twice actually
He should google his name. Obituaries are online for anyone to see.
Horribly enough my first thought was he's dead and someone has kept his number ir took over his number and are ignoring the calls and texts
Dude he's lying about cancer. He barely knew you and doesn't gaf.
It is a possibility. At least they aren't a business partner anymore.
Legally, morally, and ethically, business is business. Your "friend" owes you money. Hire an attorney.
15 years ago I went in business with a husband and wife. We each owned 33.3%. At the end of he 2nd year we had really grown the business and at the end of the year I got with the account and got the final reports and realized they were using company money for personal things. I was somewhat okay for that. They took their year end bonus and my portion was $100,000. She said, we can't pay you we don't have it. Then the next day she said, "We're going to let you go and pay you 2 weeks salary" I laughed and said, "You can buy me out, I'm an owner but you can't fire me" LOL I ended up letting them buy me out, but instead of taking it all at once I gave them 3 months. Always have a contract.
They thought you were an employee 😂
@@dioltlw3144 No when we started the company we used attorney's and it was all on paper, she thought she could pull a fast one. She KNEW I was part owner, she had a copy of the contract.
Bad idea to go into business with a husband/wife.
@@John3.36 Exactly, she was a crook and he was really a good guy. After I left, I didn't talk to them for 5-6 years then one day he accidentally called my cell thinking it was someone else. We had a good conversation and by now I was running a national company. I ended up sub-contracting some work to him and we both made nice money. I ended up doing business with him subbing to him for about 5 years before I retired. I never spoke to her.
@@John3.36 It is a bad idea to go into business with anyone.
Guy could also be DEAD, how are they also not bringing that point up too smh.
I am with you!
They did bring it up smh
They mentioned it towards the end.
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If he really does have cancer and he doesn't have health insurance, he's BROKE. If cancer doesn't kill you, the medical bills for treating it will.
Medicaid is helpful. Also self-pay rates are much less expensive. I had to pay out-of-pocket for my first pregnancy/labor/delivery. The epidural was billed at $7K. I called and asked if that was the self-pay rate, and it dropped to $1,400. I still don't have health insurance, but we belong to a co-op (Zion Healthshare) that covers big medical expenses.
I wish I was out only $8,000 from my former business partner.
Call your attorney you don’t need to call in to Ramsey for that
Yep!
I tend to think a lot of these random calls are actually planted in by their team..
@@Giminy Your brain is rapidly deteriorating
He said he also wanted moral and ethical feedback, not just legal. A lawyer isn’t going to provide that to someone.
Two possible scenarios. First, he did have cancer, died (but that does not explain the phone still connected or why next of kin didn't tell you to go away). Second, he lied about the cancer and has ghosted you. My money is on the second.
Sorry bruh he played you there’s no cancer
sounds right
Or, the cancer got him
How about googling his name and seeing if there's an obituary?
Why not go to his house and talk to the guy. As she said business is business and if he's as bad as he is then you can decide what to do from there but I'm stuck with...2 years ago!?!?
Is he still alive?
Maybe he is just so sick, that he just doesn't care about anything else.
That was the case with my biz partner. The doctors are really bad about finding some cancers and just gave him pain killers for what he thought was back pain for nearly a year. It was kidney cancer.
I would have at least visited him when he talked about his health issue..just out of humanity...now he doesn't even know if he is alive!!
If the man is alive and struggling forget about the 8k man.....if he still alive, evasive or lied ... then legal letter from lawer straightforward
ugh, I’d let it go. At this point, if the guy was going to pay it back, he would’ve. I’m not sure spending resources going after him is worth the 8k or the time…
Exactly - is the man still alive? Before taking any legal action, he needs to check personally (not by text or phone calls) by going to his home.
someone who can't solve this problem without calling a call show should probably not be in business
Take him to small claims court. If he does not appear in court, you can get a default judgement and confiscate his property.
Just go and pay him a visit first, before we jump to conclusions🙄 people act like they can't go to anyone's home and visit anymore or call....its text, text ,text.
Seriously. Somebody was aggressively trying to get back in my life, and after weeks of strange behavior and communication, a quick drive-by of their home without tapping the brakes gave me all the info i needed. They had 2 opportunities after that to counteract my opinion of them but it was more lies.
On another note. It's $8k, forgive him and move on. I'm with Deloney, your either giving grace, or removing a foul stench from your life. Both choices are better than wasting, time, money, and energy pursuing this.
Seriously. Somebody was aggressively trying to get back in my life, and after weeks of strange behavior and communication, a quick drive-by of their home without tapping the brakes gave me all the info i needed. They had 2 opportunities after that to counteract my opinion of them but it was more lies.
On another note. It's $8k, forgive him and move on. I'm with Deloney, your either giving grace, or removing a foul stench from your life. Both choices are better than wasting, time, money, and energy pursuing this.
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Nah call Judge Judy
Business partner done flown the coop!😅
The caller hasn’t let it go 😂
The reason to not partnership.
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Chances are the guy does not have the money and is therefore not going to pay it willingly. Which means dragging him to court, winning a judgement, and then going through further steps to have any wages garnished or property confiscated which may not ever happen. If he's not willing to go through a long battle he's probably not getting his money back.
So this guy didn’t check on him after his “friends” cancer diagnosis?
Good heaven’s some of these callers need their hand held
Hahah they gave him two paths over 5 minutes that he could choose to go down amd he still asks what do I do
Cut your loses and make a contract next time.
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Cancer doesn’t give you a pass on responsibility, get that money just based on principle.
That's not true cancer kills people and can breaks a person financially.
Has he gone to him in person ? Was there a written agreement? If not Delaney is right, 2 years of texting is useless. Either man up and go face to face, or let it go.
He probably went into business on his own and took the clients with him
I wonder if he's still alive. Maybe he didn't survive cancer.
3:56 Jade started with asking a question, then 40 seconds later it was not a question. She keeps interrupting herself.
It's easy to answer the dead or alive question. Look it up online. Good luck!
Not nearly enough info here. What did they do together before? Is it a career position or just some job? Is he still visible out there, social media, LinkedIn, etc?
Is he out there still doing stuff, is he dead, did you give $8,000 to some scammer who tended bar with you, what’s the deal here?
That’s how those First 48 episodes start out.
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More like a Dateline, but I get your point.
Is buddy still alive
That's what I was thinking. He might be dead.
Might be. That was my 1st thought. I really hope that's not the case.
Did they have a health plan attached to the business? If so, he might be mad the caller took it away from him when he really needed it. Also took away his income by insisting the business be closed down.
Started the biz with a good friend two years ago. A year later the friend told him he had cancer. I sent him one text. Now, it's been about two years? And, we just kinda knew each other. 😂
He corrected himself immediately after the good part and said he only knew him professionally. The entire call he talked like he wasn't close with the guy
All this for $8k that you dont need...
Sometimes you have to write off losses and move on. I think the equation is that it takes 3 times as many gains to emotionally cover a particular dollar amount that is a loss. Even if the gain has nothing to do with the loss.
Evidently you've never been around someone seriously ill with cancer. In reality, they are laid up and on their phone almost constantly because that's the only thing they have energy to do.
People change their phone numbers. He doesn’t even know if he’s alive?? Worrying for years and calling a radio show instead of finding out if he’s alive
Sometimes you just gotta take it into your own hands and catch a charge
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For him to avoid him- that in itself is fishy! I would be trying to find out if he really had cancer- something smells fishy here.
I'm with you! The "cancer" guy just pulled a fast one; he wanted out of the business and didn't want any accountability. Caller got played.
Take him to court if he's still alive.
“With a good friend of mine”… “well, just knew him professionally”
Which one is it?
Idk this guy seems wishy washy… what’s the whole truth ?
I feel like that's a totally normal comment if it's someone you like, but don't hang out with outside of work.
It wasn't confusing at all, he may have considered him a good friend because of trust/ respect but he immediately clarified by stating he only knew him professionally
I HOPE HE DIDN'T DIE....
Google the partners name followed by the word “obituary..”.
File a small claims or let it go.
With him being a single dad and has cancer on top of it, he wouldn’t have the money to pay back. I would just think of the 8k as a donation and move on with my life. I know it’s a decent amount of money but if you are well off than him I think it’s not worth the time and energy to try to get that money due to his circumstances. God will bless you triple that amount in the future.
Is the business partner gonna be safe?
GO TO HIS HOUSE AND TALK TO HIM... IF HE GOT CANCER.. DUDE JUST LET IT GO
Please listen to John because he is compassionate and caring. Let go of getting the money back and release it to the universe and you will get it back in a different way.
Did you find out if the guy with the cancer is Alive or he is doing okay?
I have been in your situation two times and I let it go and put in God’s hand.
In two years time, if the guy can't find a min to give you a ring...it's over or he is dead.
Ramsey: "Hey caller how are you?"
Caller: "Hel-
Ramsey: "Sell the house."
Needs an attorney and possibly private detective.
The business should have had the money not having each to pay half. Also, does the other guy not have a social media like FB where you can see if he's still posting?
They didn't really ask the important question till the last second hut if hes actually had like ZERO contact in 2+ years....how does he even know if hes alive still?
I am wondering if he has passed away! Some people don't really let anyone know.
He probably owes the hospitals thousands of dollars. He is probably over his head in medical debt so avoiding you.
When they closed the business, why did he pay the full $16,000 instead of each paying their half?
Bc his coworker lied about cancer so he wouldn't have to pay 8k for a business that already died.
If he was an honest man he would let you know how he is doing and if he can pay you back. Sounds like he is not interested in paying if he cans or not.
I would just go to his house
He's lied about the cancer or it killed him, so either way he's long gone.
..and...what if there was a profit after you closed shop...I'm sure you wouldn't be getting the silent treatment. Just saying..
You helped someone in need OR you wiped your hands free of a dirtball. Win win. Move on.
Google to see where he is now or even to find an obituary
I feel like she was struggling not knowing which baby step to tell him to follow
He’ll spend double that amount on legal/attorney fees.
The guy host is not listening to the caller. They are business associates, not good friends. Also, I would verify the guy actually had cancer and is still sick. He may have just wanted a way out of the business, and made up cancer because it's hard to ask anything of someone with cancer without feeling like the bad guy.
Let it go.
Caller got scammed.
This is Seattle social interaction in a nutshell
He called Ramsey up to two years of waiting, seriously
He may be dead. Can you call his family to check it out?
If you really don't know this guy...maybe your best course would be to tread lightly.
In exchange for paying off the guy's share of debt and he should get his friend's ownership stake.
Put your hands on him.
Do we even know if he's alive???
He probably wanted to weasel out of his share of the debt by faking he has cancer and ghosted him.
Thats such a stupid take because the debt was working for the business, and its probably a fair assumption from what the caller said that everything was going fine with the business, it makes no sense to make up a cancer story all of a sudden when everything was going fine. Its probably fair to assume if things kept rolling either way the business the debt would have continued to not be a problem, vast majority of businesses run on debt
@@justjosh5725 Please explain why the partner ghosted him.
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You set the money on fire when you started a partnership just be grateful you only lost a few grand and move on.
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Ummmm is he still alive! Call an attorney!
The "something" that happened was cancer. He might be gone.
Everyone is asking if he’s still alive. I wanna know: did he ever really have cancer in the first place?!!
Am I the only one who finds it weird that he opened a business with a guy and he doesn’t know where he lives, hangs out, has no mutual friends?
Where does he live? Turn detective
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They all need their own segment.
I think they all do. I know Ken, John, and Rachael all do.
Agree, and remove all men except dave - all the men are just fillers at best and annoying at worst (except Dave)
She’s good but she has to let other ppl talk more! She wants to be in control too much
@@jimroscoviusKamel too though it’s annoying 😂
Is he alive?
My thought exactly. What if he’s dead?
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Well cancer its really expensive. Let it go man.
Maybe he’s dead have y’all ever thought of that?
Bad advice from John. The guys BS the poor guy. Lawyer up asap
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Maybe he's not alive. Maybe he didn't survive cancer.
Id totally make a welfare call.... send the cops to his house.
Let it go