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- Skip Bayless and Shannon Sharpe talk Pittsburgh Steelers after they lost to the Jacksonville Jaguars on Sunday in the NFL playoffs.
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Skip and Shannon discuss who deserves the blame for the Steelers' loss to the Jags | UNDISPUTED
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Do you agree with Shannon?
Nope, it is obvious Big Ben is out for himself. Plus I'd like to know what team blew either the Broncos or Ravens teams he was on and the next time his team saw them his coach had to preach too much to them. It's called pride. It's no such thing as a team with pride that allows 80 points at home. Tomlin definitely has some blame. But you'll never win a Super Bowl with a quarterback that's not sold out to winning. And Shannon Sharpe knows that.
Skip and Shannon: UNDISPUTED coaches an D
Yes listen the Steelers have one by a walk off field goal for about 6;weeks straight n yesterday n came back to bite them n the a**
Skip and Shannon: UNDISPUTED to much blame for mike
20 minutes in I already agreed with Shannon
How about praise Jacksonville for outplaying the Steelers?
Evan Lewis never!!! lol no, but they really should
Evan Lewis Steelers scored 42 points against a Jacksonville defense which is supposed to be one of the best in the league
Inigo Vanaman mk did u not see the vikings game there supposed to be #1 defense they blew a lead
Inigo Vanaman the Steelers have the one of the best offense in the nfl and still let Blake Bortles beat them
Rely bortles played against the Steelers defense not the offense
The Steelers' defense could've *really* used Sean Lee
Dia Dunne11 I DONT GET IT
Skip is always going on about Sean Lee being out for the Cowboys, and how he is the heart and soul of their defense.
Or Shazier
Or James Harrison.
Dia Dunne11 or Troy Polumalu
When you throw for 400+ yards and 5 TDs and still lose......damn
PT Yang when you throw the ball up and pray your receiver gets it..... damn
the steelers scored enough to win this game....their D didn’t show up!!!
go Pats!!
akosh1976 lol ikr
Lags gonna get exposed .
akosh1976 I'm surprised they didn't blame this loss on the Patriots. 😂
That’s a dumb comment. Not a player in the league would agree with you. Ben was dropping dimes yesterday. To say otherwise is like conversing with a 12 year old.
if the steelers defense couldnt handle blake bortles, do you really think they could handle Tom Brady? even if the steelers won, brady would throttle them anyway. FACTS
RPD 6478 ya tbh
You all need to stop doubting Blake bortles
bortles isnt that bad, but if he can put up 45 on the steelers, just IMAGINE what brady would do
It was really that running game founrette with 3 td's and yeldon the 2nd string with 1 bortles had 0 td's i think if not then 1
the gamer He threw 1 td, bortles didnt throw much but when he did he made it look easy
James Harrison is low key smiling right now
Or give jags credit for winning? Everyone thought I was crazy when I had jaguars over Steelers
FACTSSSSSSS
ClownLLUMINATI jags defensively fell apart in the 2nd half but I would give the credit to the jags offense for putting up that many points
Why give jags respect when they were up 21-0 and almost lost. They're going to get destroyed by the patriots.
Luke Yost I mean you’re playing up 2 TDS are you selling out for plays especially with the risk of injury always imminent... cause I promise you if they were only up one TD Matavis Bryant isn’t open for like a 35 yard gain late.. they played within the cushion tbh but there’s always room to improve
Troy Stewart you can’t take you foot off the gas pedal since you’re up by a good amount in the second half... did you se last years super bowl?
If Sean Lee wasn't injured they would have won
Soccer Legend what? He plays for the cowboys
Matt TheDestroyer 2 Skip Bayless joke
Matt TheDestroyer 2 if you don’t know...you don’t know lol
Yup if Sean was playing we would of definitely win by 2 touchdowns 😂
You sir win the internet
How Skip sounds when he nuts 9:17
Eww bro omg
😂😂😂
Brian straight dead that was so funniest comment I have seen in a while
Wtf😂😂😂
Brian 😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣
Give 100% of the blame to the coach if ANYONE on your team is looking past an opponent who whipped you earlier in the season. If the Chiefs hadn't blown the lead against the Titans, could you imagine the Patriots looking past them after getting embarrassed in the season opener? There is no logic or discipline, and it is causing an immensely talented roster to under deliver.
Mike Moore i
Mike Moore yes couldn't agree more!!!
Mike Tomlin was saying there was gonna be a round two. Boy need to humble himself.
Spidey7747 he has rings, y'all need to relax
MrKindofimportant123 *ring
John Gruden has one ring as well
I'm talking about Tomlin as a head coach nothing else.
MrKindofimportant123 what has he done lately?
60% defense 40% coaching
Spitzkopf Larry what about Big Ben
Spitzkopf Larry he had 2 int
The Dream King But he also threw for over 450 yards and made a great TD pass on a 4th and 11 .. Jags secondary is awesome. Even the great Drew Brees struggled in the first half vs that great Vikings D. Ben, Bell and Brown did their thing but their defense was soft and that decision to try an onside kick was idiotic.
The Dream King 1 int not 2
100% Jaguars
Mike Tomlin gets way too many passes
Just like Eli Manning once you have a superbowl U get passes
Dirty Bird hes in the top 10 for passing yards and passing tds...
Ok it was 3 times and that was when he didn't have a damn offensive line with him. If he had more than one second to throw the ball, he would be insane. And even then, he's won two super bowls without a solid top ten defense to help him out. Eli is so underappreciated and he's done very well with what's been given to him.
JTF Patrick Cross did you see his SB wins? that defense was insane. i dont care where they rank in the season its how you play in the game and the g-men played killer D against the pats in sb 42 and 46
ok who won super bowl mvp for both of those games. Besides, I'm talking about regular season+playoffs.
TOMLIN needs to go. Bradshaw was right. Cheerleader not a COACH.
Jeff Craft please Steelers always go to the play offs .. Mike Tomlin not loosing his Job
Uniquely Controversial. Getting to the PLAYOFFS isn't the goal. It's getting to the Superbowl & winning.
10:52 that Sean Lee name drop though
LOL, I was surprised he didn't mentioned Ray allen somehow
Shannon says he hasn’t had confidence in the Steelers in years. He literally picked them to beat the Pats in the AFC Championship last year.
Jaguars listen up. You are playing the most hated team in the entire NFL in the AFC Championship in the New England Patriots. Please know that you have the other 31 fanbase on your side while you guys are playing. Go out there and shock the world!
David Vonderhaar True lol😂
David Vonderhaar the patriots could get 28 penalties in a game and you all would still blame it on the refs
The key to the game is the Jags pass rush. They looked like they had a hard time pressuring Ben with 4 guys. It will be interesting how they fare against the pats offensive line.
omieg89 pats online is garbage brady been getting abused all year he wont make through the game
Who deserves CREDIT for the Jags win...... The Steelers didn't lose the game.... The Jags went there and won it........ Simple
tariq ramadan the steelers defense lost this game. They were horrible. But i agree. The jags beasted
Steelers DEFENSE lost the game jags defense is good but Steelers offense is great Simple.
150 Roc Block But the offense put the defense in terrible field position a couple of times and also gave up a fumble recovery for a JAX TD. Can't only blame the defense.
Matt Centeno 😂 the jags offense is really bad they shouldn’t of had 45 points everyone knows this. Defense lost the game bro.
150 Roc Block The offense didn't score all 45 points. Did you watch the game at all or just check the final score? The Jags defense scored after the Steelers offense gave up a fumble. Also, Ben threw multiple picks that left the Steelers defense in terrible position. You can't ask the defense multiple times to defend the ball starting at their own 20 yard line lol it was a combo of mistakes on offense, bad defense, and poor coaching that killed the Steelers. Go actually watch the game and you'll see I'm correct. Blaming only the defense for that loss exposes you as a casual fan.
Matt Centeno they scored on defense once and Ben threw one pick which was lucky. The jags offense is trash and Steelers defense is trash Simple.
Rooting for Blake "God Mode" Bortles but I would be shocked if they beat Tom Brady in New England. The Patriots are not the Steelers
Diehard steelers fan here and disgusted. Fire mike tomlin and staff. Horrendous coaching.
You’re a Mets Fan?
As a Bengals fan who's team sucks I agree Tomlin bad coach just like Lewis watch when Bengals Steelers play the brain power by the 2 head coaches is awful.
Myles Jack wasn't down!
The problem was defense, the defense played terrible and play calling the play calling was bad just because the 4th down plays worked doesn’t mean it was a good play call. The jags outplayed us and deserved to win that game they d went out there and smothered Ben and Bell and the offense made it happen when they needed to.
Tom Brady is the Sean lee of quarterbacking
So happy for Jags and their fans. Outside of the Browns, they’ve been the laughing stock of the nfl. Would be a fantastic story to see them take down Pittsburgh follow by New England.
Why can’t they give credit to jax they’re just better than Pittsburg. They throttled them 30-9 and then dropped 45 on Pittsburgh the second time. Steelers are literally just not as good as jacksonville
Aisian ThreeQUISIANS on defense yea, the Steelers offense has more talent than any team in the NFL. Best wr, best RB along with gurly, QB has second most yrds & tds? Pittsburgh has the most pro bowlers? Very talented, that's why so many people are wondering what's going on? Coaching?
But the jags def is top shelf, best in the NFL. I watched the off against the bills & was like damn. Then the Steelers made them look like the 99 Rams
The Steelers didn't take the Jaguars seriously and paid the price. And the Steelers defense got tired Quickly
I think the jags can beat the patriots but i dont think they can beat the refs.
Did the refs sack Mariota eight times? They're not very good at tackling Gronk either.
I’m crine 😂
NAKIA LEE I'm sure the pats already has cut them a check to make sure pats win
WAAAH WAAAH YOU DONE CRYING YET, LOSER?
Jethro Jacinto do you think im a steeler fan
Jags are a more complete team simple
casualgamerreed but that onside late was risky the momentum was on the steelers late in the game.
Steelers fan. I completely agree. Also, the extremely questionable decision making didn't help at all, however, that's not to take away from the jags' performance yesterday. It turned out to be a good game but the late game decisions...smh.
More complete? What!!! Sure they have a run game but you’re not gonna win a game running it the whole game.
casualgamerreed Without Shazier maybe
casualgamerreed but the Steelers have much more game changing talent. They have the best running back and the best wide receiver in the league, a HOF qb a great o line, shazier, cam Hayward and a great d line
Patriots and Jaguars are truly the two best teams in the AFC.
J Xavier Sports How do you feel about the 2 NFC teams?
+Jerry 85g Vikings got lucky but are the most complete team (imagine if they were healthy). eagles aren't the same without Wentz
J Xavier Sports not of all time but in this season yes the jaguars are better than the steelers. I think if Steelers defense plays there best then they win easily but they chocked.
of course, we were 3-13 last season but we are just better than the Steelers this season. We proved it twice
J Xavier Sports imagine if they were healthy? We have way more injuries than the Vikings and probably more devastating
Tomlin deserves way more than 25 % He's the heascoach he's responsible for everything. They're a mess of a team. A lot of people were hyping them up to even be in the Superbowl but they're nowhere near the same league as the patriots when it comes to discipline, strategy, preparation etc. They would have been beaten by The Patriots again, there's no doubt in my mind. You have talent on offense, that's pretty much all you have, but can you actually be a good team ? There's more to it than having some talented players.
Who to blame? Easy the Jags are the blame for the Steelers loss. Good game on that team.
This Jacksonville team remind me of the 07 Giants Patriots better take them seriously
Lil Dagga they a team playing to prove they are a threat no expectations and just fire thats the scariest team to play same with those eagles no expectations and these 2 might see each other on minninapolis
Lil Dagga interesting, for me they remind me of the Jets under Rex Ryan.
nah giants had a quarterback
It’s Sean lee fault
Marco W IM CONFUSED
Matt TheDestroyer 2 Skip is obsessed with Cowboys often injured linebacker Sean Lee. That's what he's referencing.
No Sean Lee, No Hot Dub.
I never seen Terry Bradshaw happier. Tomlin sorry man you gotta go...
This is why I call shows like this "Sports Entertainment" and not sports. At least with WWE you know you are about to be fed malarkey ahead of time.
The Steelers put up 42 points against the SECOND BEST-DEFENSE IN THE *NATIONAL FOOTBALL LEAGUE.*
Roethlisberger threw for 469 yards and 5 TDs. Nearly and NFL record. You had two receivers go over 100 yards. Antonio Brown with 7 catches for 132 yards and Vance McDonald with 10 catches for 112 yards. Le'Veon Bell only rushed for 67 yards on 16 carries, but when you are down by 3 TDs running the ball isn't as much use to you.
Granted, there were some questionable calls by Mike Tomlin in this game. That 4th and 1 they had late in the first half. I had no problem with them going for it, but why are you lining up in a single-back formation on a 4th and 1 that you desperately NEED? I knew that was disaster as soon as I saw that. Then a timeout was called so I said to myself, "Okay, they'll probably line up with something else since they allowed the Jags to see that." O_o..................They lined up in that formation *AGAIN!!!!!* What happened? Tackled in the backfield for a loss. No field goal, no TD, no first down. The onside-kick was stupid too, but not as much.
That all being said, those things didn't cost the Steelers the game. The Jacksonville jaguars are just simply a better football team right now and they proved it. Everytime Pittsburgh made a run, Jacksonville answered. I mean EVERY time. This team is legit and looks like a Super Bowl team. Vikings and Jags. I'm calling it.
D2K Prime well said. Totally agree on the onside kick.
No, New Japan Pro Wrestling is sports entertainment. WWE is a shell of its former self. Vikings vs Jags sounds like a good Super Bowl but I totally see Brady wearing six rings. The Patriots usually deliver in the Super Bowl tho. Should be good either way.
They basically said the same as you... They gave 65% of the blame to the defense which is true when you're picking blames. Obviously the Jags get a lot of credit, they're just analyzing what the Steelers did wrong, and it's evident, they dared Blake Bortles to beat them and he did. Although I agree this is Sports Entertainment, your argument is not logical.
D2K Prime nope. All I know is Leveon was the reason they reached the afc championship last year and without utilizing him efficiently this year, they lose to the jags
Well to be fair ben got a chunk of those yards and two tds on a hail mary before the half and garbage prevent defense time at the end of the game.
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I hope the jags beat the pats but we all know what’s going to happen
Mike Tomlin deserves the blame. He went for an onside kick with upwards of 2 minutes on the clock. That short field gave them a touchdown. If not for that touchdown and short field. Steelers could have tied with a field goal.
Tomlin is a good coach. I think he just took a risk on that onside kick and it didn't work,period.
When your defense gives up 42 points to the Jaguars he had no other choice but to gamble the defense didn't come to play
It was stupid to do a outside kick but Pittsburgh defense didnt stop the jaguars all game so he lost confidence in they defense because its no excuse everytime Pittsburgh kept coming back they could not get the jaguars of the field they kept letting the running backs catch passes and getting first downs every time it looks like they can get the ball back just face it Pittsburgh was great when they had top defense they just loaded on offense thats why Pittsburgh has to put up pionts because they defense is garbage they will never be a super bowl team into they defense smack teaams in the mouth on defense again like in the 70s and when early 2000s when they was hitting thats what Pittsburgh was known for Thats how they use to get to every super bowl they been in its good they git the offense but they need to fix that defense why they still have a quarterback because time running out
Bottom line Steelers showed how much they missed shazier also the O.C needs to go along with the D.C
New England is missing their best defender (Hightower). They coached up the others and Mike can't.
I have a feeling that Sean Lee name is gonna come up...yep there it is
That "All Time Defense" got 42 dumped on their heads. The passing defense, supposedly their strength, allowed like 470 yards and 5 TDs. Blake Bortles played alright against a bad defense, how is he gonna do against Bill Belichick? I see the Pats using the same strategy they used against the Titans, stack against the run and force Mariota to make all the plays, against Bortles and make him hate his life. All this is without even mentioning playoff experience and home field advantage. Pats cover the spread, plain and simple.
I really thought the jags won. I don't blame No one. Y'all just trying to defend y'all picks.
Michael Jokedan Not My Goat you misspelled James fam, I got you tho.
This is the only time youll see skip and shannon agree on soomething
NEVER WOULD I IMAGINE THEM AGREE ON TOPICS MORE THAN I HAVE RIGHT NOW
3:38
Shannon - "huh..?"
Skip - "hmmm...?"
If only Sean Lee was on the Steelers.
I really want Jags Minnesota Super Bowl
my95airmaxx same tired of the same teams in the SB
my95airmaxx that superbowl would be boring asf
Jamarion Williams u guys are salty asf
akosh1976 how I'm telling the trutg
akosh1976 truth*
This was SOOOOOO Pittsburgh Steelers. They are a slightly better and more talented version of the Cowboys PERIOD. A lot of talk, but little execution. If only Mike Tomlin, Big Ben and the defense (THE WHOLE TEAM!!) decided to show up yesterday.
Talked about this on my channel today.
The Steelers just knew they were going to have their rematch with the Patriots. They did not respect the Jaguars enough to at least keep their mouths closed about it.
Anytime the underdog wins it’s always about what the team who was supposed to win DIDN’T do , as opposed to what the underdog team DID to win
The NFL playoffs is looking interesting as always.
I love to hear Sha talk football....
Jaguars out executed the Steelers. They did what they had to. Media still throwing shade on them making it seem like the Steelers lost the game more than the Jaguars actually won it.
Tomlin risked it too many times in the second half. He went for it a few times on 4th down. That offside kick was also an awful call as well.
DaKiddSkyy thats the only reason the game was close SMH
Ben threw 2 TD passes on 4th down. And Haley calls the plays. However, totally agree with you on that brutal onside kick. That is on Tomlin.
They were 2/3 in the forth on forth down not including the one in the first half. The first forth down was unnecessary because it was still early in the quarter. The last two didn't matter because the damage was already done because of the offside kick. That offside kick told me he didn't believe in his defense even though they both successfully got 2 drives where they punted.
"The Sean Lee of it" 😂😂
Can the jags get some credit?
The defensive coordinator 😭
Steelers are supposed to have a good defense. The jags ran 61 offensive plays, only one was for a loss, the kneel down to end the game. The jags came in and took it to them.
No one saw this going into this season. I don't even think jags fans thought they'd be this good
Only Skip could bring up Sean Lee’s name in this discussion!
I honestly think if we had shazier's speed we would've got some key stops and won those big shoes to fill man he was gonna be defensive player of the year
Its gonna be Vikings vs Jaguars
This comment did not age well it may be a while before those teams meet in a superbowl lol
What about the players on the Stealers that play dirty, talk smack, and complain about salaries days before a big game? Whose responsibility is it for enabling that? THE COACH! 25%?? Tomlin should get 100% of it, and he knows it! What has he done to make this team better since he inherited it years ago?? NOTHING! Bradshaw was right all along.
Steelers we’re unstoppable this year offensively, sucks shazier got hurt, his run defense was really what was missing from the Steelers d
Im tired of the media blaming the players and coaches.
Offset! 9:38
Why can’t we just give the blame to the Jaguars being a better team. Y’all was sleeping on us this year, that’s all.
Shannon’s outfit is GOAT here
Tomlin lost that game for the Steelers. Yes, they were down by 21 at one point but they pulled back and then conservative play calling and that silly decision to onside kick lost the game.
The Steelers Lost to the Jaguars.
Not the Jaguars won against the Steelers.
The pride of Pittsburgh, killed them
Skip hasnt talked about the Eagles in the NFC Championship yet 👀
Their defense just gave up there was nothing they could do to stop the Jacksonville Jaguars. Mike is a great coach who sometimes loses faith in his players forcing him to make foolish decisions .
Really needed Shazier
All the blame is on Tomlin they never improve their defence in The of season
Who's fault was it that the Steelers lost? The Jags.
What ever !"All the praises" They gave up 42 points!Against ,Brady 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Mike Tomlin loses his job he will have another one by the end of the day.
Hahaha that onside kick try sounds like Jason Garret when we played Miami and Dallas was up 14-7 before going into the half and he decided to onside kick it and they scored another touchdown now going into the half 14-14 and the Dolphins were getting the ball back...smh
Remember when shows would break down plays that happened? That show with Hodge, Edge pro something something. :\
Amazing how so many people focus on Tomlin & the onside kick call using 20/20 hindsight, but there isn't enough criticism on the coordinators, where the main coaching problems lie. D is the #1 reason we lost by far, then the terrible 4th & 1 calls, then the 2 Ben turnovers. The onside kick call gives us 2 chances to get the ball back. If we don't recover, they're supposed to be out of fg range if we stop them. But Boswell kicked it less than 10 yds, plus the penalty yardage was added. And Tomlin shouldn't be blamed for not having confidence in the D at that point; they gave up close to the most points ever at home, shameful. Tomlin can be blamed for not having the team ready to play or disciplined enough from not talking about a Patriots rematch (including himself, as Skip said), but blame Boswell for the onside kick.
Skip toy are killing me with the Sean Lee lol
I blame the coaching.. The defense was not prepared. Ben should have quarter back sneaked on at least one occasion. I don't blame the offense. They still managed to put over forty point on the board. And the on side kick call was so stupid it should cost Tomlin his job.
Skip: You can't be trash and throw 21 TDs to 13INTs in a season.
Skip didn't use the word "trash" when describing Andrew Lucks 40TD season, or Aaron Rodgers' 45TD season, but you sure didn't heap praise on them.
I understand Bortles' expectations are much lower, but still.......
Are you kidding me? Did they just compare Blake Bortles to Marcus Maroita? They have probably seen 0 Titans games outside of the playoff games and are just looking at the stats.The guy needs to do everything, the running game has disappeared (jags nr.1 just saying), receivers are not getting open, the defense isn‘t great either and he‘s been injured twice during the season and also during the patriots game, but of course no one is going to talk about it. And he doesn‘t push his stats in garbage time like somebody else does (he‘s got the most game winning drives in the nfl). I don‘t want to hate on Bortles he deserves credit for their upset win but give me a brake on the Mariota hate.
herren18 cause skip bayless, one of the premiere, most coveted, best sports reporters for decades and shannon sharpe, skips hand picked co-host, definitely dont watch years worth of football and probably never watch a titans game
Fetty Wap I was talking about this year. Because of who they are means they are always 100% right. Do I need to list you all the ridiculous things they ever said?
herren18 its scripted to the point they pick sides and storylines to create debates. I took it as shannon making the comparison saying mariota is a beast but look what happened in new england.
Fetty Wap I took it as if Shannon was saying like people say mariota is better than bortles but look how it looked this weekend. I saw it more as a shot against mariota because he‘s been down on him on multiple occasions. But i guess you can see it both ways, depending on how you interpret it.
herren18 mariota has potential to be beyond great
People are too high on the Steelers
8-2 in one score games prior to this game. The rushing offense wasn't operating at the efficiency of previous years. The defense is susceptible to getting beat badly by bad offenses. Think Baltimore, Green Bay. Mike Tomlin hasn't really been a great coach, just has had high end talent throughout his career
I had the jags over the steelers because im a hater but i believed in what i saw from the jags
Truth The Defense is weak!!!!
When the team wins, who gets the credit? The players do. Not the coach. When the team loses, it's the coach, not the players. How does that make any sense?
Mike tomlin
Let's not talk about the Jags winning, let's still talk about Pittsburgh.... Jeez
Now Skeeeiip did you really just say if you Throw 21 TDs to 13 Ints in the regular season you can't be considered trash? Gtfoh
The media’s narrative is funny. They put all their marbles on pats vs Steelers. No respect towards Jacksonville at all.
Everyone talking about Bortles this, Bortles that. Let's talk about their defense. If you think Brady won't do damage when Ben put up 5 TDs.....good luck! And I'm not even a Pats fan.
technically Byard wasnt wrong. They made brady look like bortles, they both lit up the stat sheet this week
If Sean lee was the Steelers coach they would win every game
I do not believe anybody deserves blame for the lost. The Steelers were down and were losing the entire game. The Jaguars simply outplayed the Steelers.
I give 100% blame to the Jacksonville Jaguars for the Steelers loss
Everyone laughed when I picked the Vikings to beat the Jags in the Super Bowl