Morrowind vs. Oblivion - Which Is Better?
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind and The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion are amazing games - but which is better? In this video I compare Morrowind and Oblivion, weighing up the good and bad aspects of each.
Also, if you read Vivec’s writings, there are hidden messages of him seemingly confessing his guilt for killing Nerevar, adding to the mystery, and just one of the many over the top details missing in Oblivion.
Foul murder.
idk about that people are different some care and some don't vivec wrote about it because he cared maybe people in oblivion didn't its more complicated than you think bro... just because one villain has a whole book on why he did something bad doesn't mean another needs the same to do something bad.
@@extrage3061 you… completely missed the point of what I said. Morrowind has tons of tiny details like that, Oblivion and Skyrim don’t. The level of detail and the amount of hidden things to find as a rewards for actually exploring only decrease as the games go on.
@@bimlauyomashitobi421 Oblivion has a lot of hidden texts you can read if you choose to. Its really Skyrim that got rid of that sort of thing
@@extrage3061 Vivec is neither a villain nor a hero, you have to decide on your own how you feel about him.
The better game is the one which you have more fun with.
Looks like it's a tie
@Destro i think that's the point. while yes, sometimes objectiveness can truly decide which game is better, it all depends on you.
@Destro I can't hold oblivion as more fun. The horrible loot and enemy scaling with the repetitive dungeons and oblivion gates count for too much for me. Actually the funniest game is the better one IMO. No point having more shit to do if it's repetitive, boring and pointless to do so. A big part of the morrowind fun is how much you can break it with everything. Having to abuse weakness to magic stacking in Oblivion to kill anything later on and constantly getting disarmed by 100 blocking guards is pretty dull. You litterally feel stronger staying level 1 forever. Personally, in term of fun i would rank them : Morrowind = Skyrim > Daggerfall > Oblivion. There is just nothing Oblivion can offer that isn't in another TES game.
@@XDarkStrikerX the shivering isles..... only in oblivion
@@antonraulpen But since it depends on you. Its subjective. Objective is something that is proven and has evidences. Concrete evidence. while subjective is opinion.
Playing Morrowind and having dyslexia ain’t a great mix
Dude I have dyslexia too. What are the odds of that.
And ADHD
On the bright side, even people without dyslexia can't read some of the location names
Reading the names of Dwarven ruins must be a nightmare for you
Yeah me too. I got ADHD, ADD, Dyslexia, PCP, MDMA and TNT. In short, I just wish I'd have stayed in school longer, read more books and spent less time on a computer becoming anti-social and twisted.
Still, at least I now have lots of letters to explain my apparent failures in a sciency kind of way! XD
*You have provoked a gang war*
_Ballas_
If you give an N'wah a cookie ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
My opinion,
Objective best- Morrowind
Personal Favorite- Oblivion
Just for the Mods- Skyrim
1) Skyrim (simply the best - ask the statistics ^^)
2) Morrowind (first RPG i ever played, and i had the creation suit on my CD so i could build my own stuff in the world, THAT WAS AWESOME)
3) Oblivion (Never came around to really play it, the atmosphere just isn´t for me. It´s too bland in my opinion)
That wasn't the options he gave
@@luzifersohn5010 Can't really rate it until you play the game.
Eh, i’d say without mods, skyrim is the better than oblivion. With mods, Oblivion. Agreed on Morrowind though.
@@luzifersohn5010 what statistics are you talking about lol?
Sales statistics? If so then you might want to not mention that again lmao. Sales does not make a game better. Just look at generic shootbang fps that comes out every year. There's a reason they release a new one every year and it isnt that the games are good. Also Skyrim's sales stats are bloated because it was essentially the first elder scrolls that could have possibly gotten those sales numbers at that time because it was happening during what was essentially the gaming boom
I like oblivion for being something between Morrowind and Skyrim, it wasnt nearly as dumbed down as Skyrim and still was a good RPG and it had good factions unlike skyrim.
I agree
Oblivion is way better than morrowind
@@glathir3574 Oblivion FTW click me
@@rapidsqualor5367 what???
@@glathir3574 Just sayin I agree with you
I have this problem where I cycle through ES 3 4 and 5 and give up one to play another. It's like, if they plucked out the good aspects of every ES title and rolled it up together, Bethesda could make the perfect open world rpg.
Seriously though, I don't understand why they never take the lessons they learned to improve the next game instead of basically changing every aspect of the game regardless of what worked.
From software beat them to it i think elden ring is better then all edler scrolls games cause they did just that. I thought dark souls 1 was better than skyrim which was so easy i beat it in a week
@@fabolousjada5070 You're literally comparing apples to oranges
oblivion is the perfect balance between morrowinds depth & rpg elements and skyrims appealing gameplay. at least thats what i think.
I really don't think TES Oblivion and Morrowind should've be available on Nintendo 3DS or Wii U.
@@curedmeloetta5080 Facts.
I couldn't agree more.
Come on man Oblivion is just a gofer and only improved the fighting and spellcasting, Morrowind is RPG , Oblivion less so and Skyrim not at all
@@titokarawera25 That's your opinion, which is fine. I've tried getting into morrowind personally, but the base game is just so buggy, slow, and ugly by comparison to oblivion, that I just can't. Mods certainly help morrowind, especially the graphics mods and bug fixes, but you can make the exact same arguments about oblivion and the mods that that give it better RPG elements. Oblivion definitely could have been better, but I personally feel that it's the best entry in the franchise so far. In terms of a video game that I think did an elder scrolls type game/storyline best, my personal favorite is Kingdoms of Amalur: Reckoning.
Morrowind had so many factions and quests you could do as well. I was disappointed I could not join the Empire Legion, or the Imperial Cult. Morrowind had the Great Houses, the Temple quests. It was fun becoming master of each.
actually you can join the Imperial Legion and the Imperial Cult
@@harryd8292 I think they are talking about in Oblivion.
But the questions of the guilds in morrowind suck balls. Currently playing the hlaalu and morag tong quests and they are just dull. Oblivion all the way
RespekonmaName no wonder youre bored youre hlallu.
@@SiefausOsna Calling them just dull but you actually enjoy the repetitive oblivion gates, dungeons and loot/kill/talk quests of Oblivion? I'm impressed. Next time time try Telvanni.
"Cameron's plan in inviting Dagoth Ur to Tamriel"
Played both. While I liked both games, there are some parts in Oblivion that are an absolute chore to play. And the repetitive quests like the Oblivion gates make it worse. I loved Morrowind's deep world building, quests and immersion. I couldn't immerse myself in Cyrodiil like I did in Vvardenfell... Both games are great but I like Morrowind more.
Main quest- Morrowind
Side quests- Oblivion
Exploration and world you can get lost in- Skyrim
Each game has a ton of pros and cons to it that make it either inferior or superior in certain regards to eachother but they're all amazing games you can get lost in and play for hours on end without noticing. I haven't played Daggerfall and Arena so I can't really talk about them.
Yes to all
You have to try Daggerfall. I can't say anything about Arena though. I literally couldn't figure out how to walk.
Nope exploration is better in Oblivion and hidden things to discover is better in Morrowind, Skyrim is better just because of graphics, thats it
@@TheTinMan2077 your opinion but okay.
@@TheTinMan2077 Exploration in oblivion was garbage. Oblivions world is empty asf with almost nothing exciting to find or anything in it. Oblivion just has caves and ayleid ruins with the occasional bandit camp. Both Morrowind and Skyrim actually have interesting locations that make the worlds fun to explore. Not to mention all the unique encounters you can come across in both games.
since oblivion is currently on a discount, I thought i'd finally try it out. heard that the guild quests are among the best in the series
I think its free on the Bethesda launcher
You won’t regret it, mod it though, the graphics haven’t aged too well
Morrowind is on discount too for only $4.49. I plan on trying it out!
RS Music you dont need to mod it to enjoy it 🤷♀️ the graphics shouldn’t matter as long as the story is good
Delimbiyra ღ yeah true but with mods it’s way more enjoyable
Morrowind is such an impressive game, though movement speed is a genuine problem I prefer its travel network and teleport spells over quick travel as well as its navigating by (poor) directions and landmarks over quest markers.
Morrowind has imperfect systems but oblivion just gives up on trying. Still enjoyed oblivion a lot but it feels so much more bland and less immersive than its predecessor.
Laughs in boots of blinding speed
@@moelester8656 north of caldera?
Character in Morrowind: Attack, miss, attack,miss,dead
Me: Why the f*ck do you keep missing, you shouldn't even be an adventure!
@Bryan S, yes
@@earendurvoneinzbern7585 Fatigue son, it weakens you in response to doing anything
morrowind's "barriers to exploration" are partially offset by availability of levitation potions spells etc
I appreciate the stance you took when comparing these games. I never played Oblivion but it was clear how much better it looked graphically. Its always nice to see someone who loves games I love, but isn't afraid to also point out their flaws, I too found Morrowind to be kinda sluggish at times. Keep up the good work. :)
I LOVED Oblivion. I spent 350+ hours of clear time in the game (not counting dozens of hours when I was killed and had to load save from 4 hours ago).
And I love Morrowind and Skyrim to death too, but for me, Oblivion wins.
I would say Morrowind and Oblivion are better than Skyrim in terms of writing quality.
Zaric Zhakaron did a video discussion with a fellow RUclipsr titled "Elder Scrolls should be Rebooted?":ruclips.net/video/ikN-oAbGkBI/видео.html it's in that video that he brings up that after the completion of Oblivion there was a mass Exodus were a bunch of the OG developers and writers left the company which would explain why the writing quality scene Skyrim and Fallout 4 head Tanked.
I just got Morrowind, and I can see why people say its the longest (and tedious) to play, nothing the less, its still a awesome game with great story, highly recommend playing Oblivion as well. I had a 360 and original xbox so I played them on those consoles.
Morrowind felt like a themepark with great systems. Oblivion felt like a sandbox with weaker but more streamlined systems.
Morrowind derived its immersion from its dynamic plot and how factions react to your past actions.
Oblivion derived its immersion from its dynamic npc routes, the faction plots and the housing systems.
Oblivion sandbox ? Mmmm...
Not a Elder Scrolls comment. Just: Hail lord Caedus ! (Funny because before watching this video, I was reading Fate of the Jedi 😂)
@@CrissCHG It creates the feeling of one
@@CrissCHG I mean yeah. Have you seen an actual sandbox? They're pretty fuckin shallow too
And Skyrim is cool yeah
With MoDs
Morrowind has better writing, stories told, setting, depth. The systems are also better communicated to you.
Oblivion: Idk the lore given to us and the general „feeling” of the world are awesome but everything else is just flatter.
The overworld music tho hits harder than the ones of morrowind (atleast I think that).
@@flashersylejmani8863 i agree except there's no nerevar rising in oblivion which is utterly disappointing
I did not know Oblivion took place six years after Morrowind that's crazy
I haven’t played either but I’m still watching it
Heresy
Out ye damned spot
You need to play oblivion right now
@Name Less 123 I played Skyrim once. It was dull.
Graal Otonami I played Skyrim after Oblivion and I was bored, I’ve replayed oblivion so many times over the years I’ve lost count, I’ve only replayed Skyrim a few times and even then it felt less fun.
I love both games, played them both a lot, but I have to say, that when you look at oblivions main story it is pretty generic, compared to morrowind.
who cares about main story tho? when i see jauffre for the first time i t was already 200 steam hours.
One of my favorite things about morrowind is that it made nirn feel like a different unique world, whereas the most disappointing thing about oblivion was that it feltl like a clone of earth.
And originally Cyrodiil was supposed to be a jungle and imperial culture just as diverse as Morrowind's with its great houses etc, but then Bethesda decided to make it more generic to reach a broader audience. Ugh.
@@JarlFrank that's not true, they couldn't make it a jungle because of technical limitations. Imagine an open world game full of trees and vines with the size and graphics of oblivion in 2006
Yeah not happening
@@EpicMinecraftFail No, technology has nothing to do with it. Look at FarCry, released before Oblivion, and Crysis, released just a year after. They got the jungle environment down quite well. You don't even have to make it hyper-realistic, just replace the tree models with something more exotic-looking (like how Morrowind had mushrooms instead of trees). It has nothing at all to do with technological limitations. It has everything to do with artstyle.
@@JarlFrank morrowind was disappointing to me because everyone hypes it up but I went and played it and it has so many flaws. With mods it’s a lot better but I’ve been to lazy to get mods. For example the people walk so weird but yet a game that came out years earlier had better walking animations (half life). The movement is Dookey, I can get over the stamina thing, you don’t even regenerate magicka unless you sleep which is one of the dumbest things in the game. I could go on. But yeah it’s an ok game, good at the time but dated now. Oblivion is the best for me and Skyrim is second.
@@glathir3574 Funny. As if the mechanics in Oblivion made any sense. And comparing a full-on RPG with pseudomedieval weapons with Half-Life is ridiculous.
Combat in Oblivion makes no sense whatsoever, the lack of spears is utterly laughable and a testimony of the devs likely never having attended a single history class in their life. Much like Skyrim, it's disneyfied tropes with a marked lack of any original idea.
Lmao morrowind came out months before I was even born and I still agree with the 9/10. Easily one of the best and most unique games I’ve ever played.
Got Morrowind in 2012 after I learnt English, since there is no Serbian patch, I could do Russian, but, I can barely read Russian
@@viveka2994 oh i wouldve thought there would be serbian copies being sold
@@viveka2994 there could be a mod of it
Oblivion>Skyrim>morrowind
People hype up morrowind but for me it has a lot of annoying flaws.
Back then yes but aged horribly bro sorry
I've replayed both a few times and immensely enjoyed my experience each time. That being said, I decided to install Oblivion this time round rather than Morrowind because I have ideas for a playthrough that cannot be achieved with the limitations of Morrowind's engine.
Morrowind is a great game in its own right, as much as I dislike dice roll mechanics in real-time games. But I'll always go back to Oblivion since it gives me more to work with and less of a headache to get working the way I want it.
Morrowind has more immersive quests? Oblivion is considered as the best TES game in terms of quests and factions due to their interesting premise. The factions themselves are not connected but that's more of a world-building thing, where Morrowind wins by the sole virtue of not having enemy scaling and most of them staying dead once put down.
Oblivion's a far more focused experience overall, and more accessible, though it has paid quite a price in terms of depth, but not as ultimate as Skyrim or Bethesda's Fallout games have. Morrowind's a better game simply by being more cohesive and consistent in quality, AKA combat is the only place it drops in significantly, whereas for Oblivion it's every time you enter a dungeon and see bandits in Glass armor. Oblivion is still my favorite, because it can elicit a feeling as strong as any TES game can, especially when it's your first time playing it. It has the best expansion out there, its combat and graphics have seen a greater jump from the predecessor than from it to the successor (Skyrim's combat is very much the same with few to no improvements, slower to mention as well). Its strengths and contributions are often overlooked and not considered, because there are high points of quality in Oblivion unscratched by Bethesda's later installments.
i think morrowind is best because oblivion's main quest is, a little bit boring imo. But i honor your opinion
I think it comes down to a matter of opinion. 🤔 I still enjoy both though.
But it had pre-senile patrick stewart.
Oblivion's Cyrodiil doesn't correspond to the Cyrodiil description we read in lore or in Morrowind dialog ("endless jungle", "tropical rainforests" and "The densely populated nibenay valley").
I remember when I played oblivion for the first time, my disappointment seeing the Imperial City being small and empty.
I actually prefer it that way. Imperial city is already big and impressive. Imagine it bigger, i would get lost.
Can’t wait for your DLC review of both games. Personally I think the Shivering Isles will never be topped. That is hands down my favorite DLC/Expansion for any game hands down.
“CHEESE FOR EVERYONE!!! OR CHEESE FOR NO ONE!!!! I suppose that can still be just as good.” -Sheogorath
I've played Oblivion and Morrowind I personally prefer Oblivion that's just me but Morrowind still an amazing game
Same I know like everything about oblivion but I don't know what to do or what stuff to get in morrowind
Makes sense. Girls are generally FAR more casual gamers and prefer pretty things. Morrowind is dark, gritty and far more hardcore a game than Oblivion, which was largely casual.
@@TheVanillatech sounds like prime gamer incel theory
@@TheVanillatech You just posted cringe.
Morrowind was my first game in the series and I've mostly played it back then, while with Oblivion I played it on release day I didn't leave Imperial city, doing some random stuff which mostly ended in uninstalling the game after 1-2 hours of play. Just recently I've started to play it again and did go far beyond starting location and must say I enjoy it a lot more than Morrowind. Scaling enemies is a big let down, but I think being restricted with a turn based table top rules in a real time game is beyond stupid. What I like even more is NPCs have their schedules, making game world less static, than it already was in Morrowind. Voice acting progressively grows on me, especially when doing quests. Having less topics to speak with NPCs is somewhat good and bad at the same time. Quest markers while not a bad addition in my opinion, but one quest was kinda ruined for me. But honestly, I remember how annoying for me was to search for Dwemer puzzle box or a lightning axe, that I learned from book. While I think it's okay to not have quest markers for side quests learned from books, can't say I feel the same about main quest and side quest givers.
Overall I still like Morrowind, but with each playthrough my interest go down, while Oblivion I thought was inferior back then, now growing in my eyes. So far the only bad thing is that stupid scaling as I've met a Daedroth in Kvatch just because I've decided to do it 10 levels later.
Did you seriously just say Oblivions missions are repetitive and less thoughtful compared to Morrowind? Are you kidding me? Have you not played Morrowind?
I am just playing Morroblivion, lol.
I'm still playing on Morroblivionrim XD
Same lol Skyrim doesn’t even compare in terms of quests for me and rpg mechanics.
Morrowind is one of my favorite games ever, not just because Morrowind is one of my favorite TES locals, and the Dunmer literally my favorite TES race, but because I actually have to explore, figure things out myself, the guilds, and I like that it’s actually hard lol, and even though the graphics are probably horrible now, I actually like them in Morrowind more then Skyrim and Oblivion. Because I want my eyes to bleed.
Oh by the way I’m on Xbox so… no mods for me…
i feel the first game you play in the series is going to be your favorite. Im very aware of oblivions flaws but i have good memories playing that game and its the only elder scrolls games i always want to go back to
I just started playing morrowind, i ve been playing skyrim since the release. So yeah, skyrim is my first
But goddamn, as much as skyrim has nostalgic value for me, i absolutely adore and immediately fell in love with morrowind, cant wait for the weekend to put all my hours into that game. Might even try oblivion later
@@btchiaintkidding7837 I need to play morrowind again. I remember really liking the music and the vibe of the game but I keep falling off that game everytime I try. As soon as im done with elden ring i might dabble again. I keep hearing how good that game is
For me it's oblivion. The skill system is a bit deeper in that game and I really want a good leveling system in my rpgs. I hated in skyrim how you can just become a god and you really didn't have to roleplay as a certain type of character.
That's actually true in both Oblivion and Skyrim. The philosophy of the games is "you're what you play"
I hate when enemy level scales with your character. So it is definitely morrowind for me, not to mention morrowind's setting feels so unique, alien and atmospheric compared to all other fantasy settings.
Both two of my favourite RPGs and still play them on and off to this day
I love the Elder Scrolls universe and the Morrowind, Oblivion and Skyrim trilogy. But I can't agree that Morrowind is better then Oblivion. Oblivion wins by combat mechanics. Hit and miss combat is so tedious that either you need to rest a lot to regenerate your fatigue all the time or hoard fatigue potions or even use a mod so that running won't be as fatigue-costly. It gets better with higher levels, as you can run faster. In Oblivion you fight a little like in a hack and slash game, you need to spam attack and dodge melee hits by running around, it's much more enjoyable. And also - Oblivion level-scaling is so much better than no enemy leveling in Morrowind. In the latter you're sometimes too weak or too strong, you need to play around with the difficulty slider. In Oblivion there are some difficulty spikes too as you level, but there's less management from the player needed.
As for the main quest - it's better, richer in Morrowind. But all other guilds -are better in Oblivion. There's very little story in Morrowind in the guild questlines and also side quests are much more interesting in Oblivion. So only the lore brought with Morrowind main quest wins and perhaps the province is more menacing. But the quality of life improvements are really big in Oblivion.
I've only ever played Skyrim and im working on playing through Oblivion, but the atmosphere of Morrowind in ESO and the music from TES3 make me love it most
for me, i like Oblivion a slight more because of the stupid NPCs lmao
Have you heard of the High Elves?
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Oblivion has aged much worse than Skyrim, and in doing so, has in fact aged much better, because Oblivion has a sense of humour and self awareness, so all the jank just adds to its charm, whereas Skyrim takes itself very seriously and therefore draws attention to its flaws.
@@runningcommentary2125 I loved how one Skyrim patch made dragons to fly backwards. 😁😁😁
If I want a deep (but clunky) RPG, I'll play Morrowind. If I want a slightly shallower game but with more modern mechanics, I'll play Skyrim. Oblivion is just the awkward middle child which excels neither in depth or mechanics
Morrowind ofc if you like better world building in my opinion and better main story and last the game that dont treat you as a child.... And holds your hand everywhere
Ur jus read skyrim is better and more successful
@@dexter2178 Hu? Where should I "read"? that Skyrim is better?
Did you have a stroke when you wrote this?
@@RandomPerson-cx2yl ?
If you were speaking about which fallout game is the best i would say which one but an Oblivion and Morrowind comparison can't be done, both are equal and awesome games, me as a person i prefer Oblivion and FNV
The order I prefer is 1.) Morrowind 2.) Skyrim 3.) Oblivion 4.) Arena 5.) Daggerfall
Sad to say I never really got into daggerfall mine are oblivion Morrowind skyrim I think skyrim took away a lot of the good stuff in oblivion like magic crafting or classes Morrowind I love the faction system and both have a better story I general
Man.... I remember the first time I walked into a dungeon on Morrowind and got merched by a skeleton that I have ZERO chance of defeating! I was so hooked at that point! That game was so hard before strategy guides or website run throughs! Having to keep notes and explore and try new ways of doing things! The later games never reached the heights Morrowind did, for me. They are all great games but Morrowind is untouchable, in my opinion.
Morrowind has a level of world building that won’t be topped for a long time
Yeah worldbuilding with the 5cm renderdistance and repetetive unvoice dialoge
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Male of Negativity N’WAH!
There is always a fetcher.
@@lucienlachance8500 ok outlander
The theme of oblivion's world in my opinion in contrast. It's vibrant and sunny exterior is perfectly counterbalanced by the Daedric Oblivion gates. I believe this was the intention of the developers.
Both very impressive games and last good titles from Bethesda. I would say Oblivion is a more traditional Tolkien-like fantasy game, Morrowind feels more like an alien world.
Oblivion is a game of my childhood like Morrowind for many fans. However I catched Morrowind too but I was 5 yo girl watching how my mom playing, later I tried to play TES 3 and TES 4. Eventually I played Oblivion more time and passed more content it's why I have more positive experience with TES 4 :D
My preference is morrowind > skyrim > oblivion but I like all 3. I go to them for different reasons. I go to morrowind for a real RPG experience and for fantasy exploring. I go to Skyrim for more lighthearted pick up and play/short sessions of gameplay. I go to oblivion to do the dark brotherhood and shivering isles and then quit lol
Played skyrim. One of the best games ever made. Currently playing morrowind for the 1st time (around 5 hours in) loving it so far. Next up is oblivion.
Edit: morrowind is the best of the 3 and by quite a lot. Imo.
Morrowind: You had to actually read and use your brain to solve problems and quests, the factions and people were far more believable, and combat, while rather janky, truly made you feel like you were progressing and growing in power, while your class you chose to build had meaning.
Oblivion: *Durr hurr, here's a quest marker for everything,* everyone in the world behaves practically the same towards you in every playthrough, with all guilds being accepting to you despite whom you may be apart of, combat is a glorified "smack it till it dies" with terrible scaling enemies to the point all immersion is broken, and player classes feel so streamlined to almost the point of being pointless, at least when compared to Morrowind.
Morrowind was the 2nd RPG I ever played and the first and only game I fell head over heels for. It changed my life. I know that sounds a bit cringy, but I discovered Morrowind at a time when I desperately needed an escape, a break from normal life and I found it, immersing myself in Vvardenfell. House Telvanni forever!
Morrowind :
+Interesting story
+Most enemies have fixed levels
+Much more interesting landscapes
+Open cities
+Vivec
+More detailed dialogue
+Journal
+No fast travel
-No fast travel
-Painfully slow movement
-Not a lot to do when exploring
-Painful early game
Oblivion :
+Less frustating combat
+Bigger map
+Fully voiced
+Quest markers
-Quest markers
-Closed cities
-Boring landscapes
-Enemies scale with you
-People smile at you.. a bit too much
-Horrible faces
-also, THEY FUCKED UP WHEN DESIGNING THE ARMORS.
I do love how you have to ask for directions in Morrowind, while also having you rely on public transport, but for roleplay purposes I just find Map Markers in Oblivion to be that the Hero just has a map on him perhaps given to him by Baurus to find Jauffre, and the map already has markers for every major location, and it's just a matter of the route you take. Fast traveling to the cities is a bit immersion breaking, but you can also choose to just walk or ride the whole way and still find lots of encounters and things you'd never otherwise experience by just relying on fast travel
Morrowind: My fan base can read. Very well.
Oblivion: Words hard. Let's talk
Skyrim: I eat books. I'm a dragon. Roar! No thinking required.
Nice one😂😂😂
Got to disagree with your analysis of oblivion’s atmosphere. I will agree that at times it feels divorced from the main quest, but I wouldn’t exactly count that as a negative. Some people play oblivion while never touching the main quest. Personally I find the main quest to be my least favorite in oblivion. Even so eventually they slowly encroach in and you get a feeling that the plane of oblivion is bleeding through, once you reach a certain point in the story. I definitely wouldn’t describe it as bland either. It’s pretty subjective between the atmosphere between the two. Do you prefer a desolate wasteland or a lively fantasy based world. I prefer the story book feeling of oblivion. There are parts in oblivion that are dark and swampy as well.
The problem with Oblivion's main quest is that the intro pushes you to do it. Morrowind's intro was better, you just had a package to deliver and you could say that your character just don't give a damn about that. In Oblivion, you're directly escaping from prison with the Blades, the Emperor of Tamriel is killed in front of you and he gives you one of the most valuable item in the world, telling you that you have a great destiny. It's a bit weird for your character to stop giving a damn about all that happened.
Atmosphere is subjective but I will never be not pissed off that Bethesda threw away the weird lore about Cyroodil: the tensions between Nibenay and Colovia, the hundreds of weird cults present in the Imperial City, the jungle.
Alexandre Bertrand I agree that more of a blank slate is preferred over being thrust onto the main quest. I think Bethesda does this because most people aren’t into role playing and would feel directionless without a helping hand. It’s fairly neutral though, you can rationalize the reason for being in jail in many ways. Also just because the emperor entrusted his amulet to you doesn’t necessarily mean you have to RP a hero or something positive. You could view the emperor as incompetent and the refuse to help his cause. I think they did a decent job balancing between giving you a direction and allowing creative freedom.
Alexandre Bertrand unlike Skyrim’s story which makes you a Mary Sue instantly
@@alexandrebertrand1069 Tiber Septim made Cyrodiil forests and plains using the Numidium, it used to be Jungle and then he changed it, but him changing it made it true in the past and future, so technically, the Jungle never even existed.
Skyrims good game but my least favorite as well.
same
Wow you guys must be old then xd.
Die Schäfchen 14 got the game when i was 7 after watching pewdiepie play it lmao
@@blunderless Like I've said you're old xd... lol I'm kidding but I've noticed that people who say Skyrim is bad are those who played the other titles when they were younger like you. Like don't get me wrong. I love Oblivion and Morrowind. I've even made a Lets Play of Morrowind that nobody watched xd. But I don't think that Skyrim is the worst game in the series.
@@schafchen17 True. i personally think skyrim is the best. Here is how i rated them from best to worst, in my opinion:
1. Skyrim
2.Oblivion
3.Morrowind
4. Daggerfall
(Morrowind and daggerfall 3 and 4 because they just suck for me, my opinion).
Hey can someone help me. Elder scrolls summer bundle is on sale for $30 CAD and has oblivion Morrowind and Skyrim is this a good price or do you think it'll go lower for the summer sale.
I think so bc almost all games are way cheaper on summer sale but I'm not really sure
Great price
30 $ is an excellent price for all three games.
I played both a lot, but I always found Morrowind more fascinating. And it's not the main story, I don't really care about stories. Atmosphere and lore is what I like; that's also why I like there are so many books in the Elder scrolls (even though most of them are poorly written or just plain dull).
On a more gamy side: oblivion is mostly nicer to play, but in Morrowind you are truly free to play and do what you want with the game engine. You can create absurd spells f.ex. And you can get lost in Viviv underground if you don't take care - there is little handholding and controlling on how you "should" play the game.
Oblivion has the boring and annoying oblivion gate opening up at random; you almost have to close them. But the difficulty slider effectively ruin the game if you get to be too high a level. If you do, bandits wears expensive glass or ebon armor for no reason. And unlike in Morrowind you can't really get your hands on top equipment early on because it's tied to your level.
I would say Morrowind, but when you take Shivering Isles expansion into consideration, I'd say it's a tie.
I will say oblivion has great npc immersion. But those damned portals is so repetitive. Morrowind has much more freedom and you can tell the interface was not made for consoles where oblivion is too oversized. All can be fixed with mods of course, so can Morrowind's rng for hit rate with accurate attack mod, I personally never liked being at the mercy of rng. If the worlds of elder scrolls get better with newer games, everything else gets better the further back you go.
Oblivion has one of the best endings where Martin sacrifice himself to save Tamriel. The world is changed forever and leaves a bittersweet feeling like you said.
If you could take parts from each game to create a better experience,
Story, lore, npcs and dialogue: Morrowind
Gameplay and combat: a balance between III-V
World, Animations, customization and detail: Skyrim
Story, dialogue and npc wise Skyrim was abysmal, no amount of mods could make that game playable, believe me i tried.
Morrowind is a chore to playthrough.
You think closing Oblivion gates is tedious? Try doing it WITHOUT fast travel. At half the movement speed. With a cliff racer or shalk attacking you every 17 seconds.
I don't think "Moral Ambiguity" makes a story better or worse. You can have a villain/antagonist be vile and pure evil while having them still be very well written and enjoyable. I see this thrown around a ton this idea that something is smarter/better written just cause a antagonist is better written just on the basis that they have a more "Morally grey" point of view, and the truth is that it isnt the case you can craft something interesting with either morally gray or morally black and white and still have a complex and entertaining story. Both these options are just tools to use in crafting a story they aren't strict rules you have to follow. In the end of the day the most important factor is EXECUTION.
what mods are u using on morrowind? I was using Morrowind Overhaul - Sounds And Graphics on the nexus but it ran like crap and the site says its outdated I just switched to open morrowind and wanted a graphical mod that made the game look more modern
Same question
Probably Morrowind graphics guide
Great review! Having just finished Morrowind my main complaint is the game was too easy. Its challenge only lies in finding where you need to go (and that aspect was great). But I've breezed through the combat making me even ignore all the items I've found in the late game. I must have died only 10 times at most in the whole game.
Morrowind Gang
Then there's me, who loves both Morrowind and Skyrim, but really dislikes Oblivion. Compared to those two, Oblivion just feels like some watered down generic medieval European fantasy game.
Morrowind, no question.
The heroes of ESIII and ESIV could have been cellmates in the Imperial City Prison assuming ESIV's hero was in jail for 6+ years by the start of Oblivion.
I see the title, I feel the rush of adrenaline, my eyes go wide, the murderboner has risen.
I haven't played Morrowind yet but I will check it out I have played Oblivion and Skyrim
For me, Skyrim > Morrowind > Oblivion.
Morrowind's guilds really suck aside from maybe the Dunmer houses, but Oblivion's level system, magic system, and scaling system really hurt the game for me. And personally, I'm not too fond of Oblivion's guild quests either or the main quest. While I like all three games, Morrowind and Oblivion are missing the RP element in RPG and, in the case of Oblivion, the player character is just really...uninteresting.
Skyrim has no roleplaying aspects, Morrowind has the most RPG like aspects, dice roll, etc
@@viveka2994 I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about actual roleplaying. Allowing your character to be something other than a generic hero.
I guess it would depend, if we’re talking about how well Bethesda worked with what they had, the earlier made Morrowind is hands down the best for it’s buck considering when it was made. They really pushed the limits.
Imagine what is possible now that a lot of the excess work it took to create morrowind can now be cut down with AI and AI voicing over a lot of the text as well as generated lands and details on top of a game like Morrowind. I wish we could get a mix of Morrowind's depth and Elden Ring's graphics and action with the mobility of Assassins creed.
I never played Morrowind but Oblivion was my first elder scrolls game and it is pure nostalgia and overall amazingness for me. However I do feel like Morrowind is the best elder scrolls game, I can't believe I grew up with the original xbox and never got that game
After installing vtasteks shaders I think morrowinds the best looking ES game, no lie
which one is better? MGXE or vtasteks
Morrowind easy choice
I believe the answer your looking for if daggerfall ; )
I’ve always wanted to get into daggerfall, but it’s very hard and requires a lot of patience. The mechanics of the game seem awesome though, but they require a lot of dedication to get used to! It seems like such an amazing and beautiful game, hopefully one day I can get adapt at it
I have not played it but from what ive seen ill list all the games
5: arena
4: skyrim
3: daggerfall
2: oblivion
1: morrowind
I have played 3-5 though
@@dragonator1012 there's battlespire and redguard. Redguard is just a fighting game battlespire I think is just a big dungeon game
@@DirtyGeorge Don't bother with battlespire and redguard... trust me LMAO
I prefer oblivion. since i grow up with it. Morrowind never tried it and prolly will not try it because of the graphics and never found it interesting really. I also love skyrim. Skyrim is my favorite game overall the elder scrolls series, because... Dragons.
Oblivion was only so bright and conventional because Lord Of The Rings came out the same year
Later in story of Nerevarine and Morrowind Vivec admits the tribunal are the ones who killed Nerevar so they could obtain god like powers.
That was actually a really good synopsis of both games. Thanks
I wish people wouldn't use modded gameplay for these videos. This morrowind doesnt look anything like i remember it and its not fair for the comparison... its just not the way the devs released the game and its not the real morrowind
I had more fun with Morrowind main game but more fun with oblivion’s side quest, guilds we’re done better in Morrowind but honestly I had a lot of fun in oblivion’s dark brotherhood and mages guild
I do wish to play Morrowind for the first time, since everyone says it's good. What should I do before going in? Planning out my character first?
Yes, i just started playing morrowind after all these years.
Fked up my charcter build, tried to make a mage, fought a worm with dagger and died. Started new character, spear focused build, and build stats accordingly. And the game's combat kinda became p*ss easy at default difficulty and having a blast so far.
Have u tried morrowind yet? If u are even slightly interested in old school rpg, then morrowind is a must play.
“Martin Septum, Emperor Bastard son”
Lmao!!!! Damn why even said that lol
Cos that's what he is
Both are good for different reasons. both are better than Skyrim imo
I did enjoy the lack of map markers and fast travel in morrowind really made you pay more attention to the game the gameplay tho i have to hand it to oblivion
Morrowind!
The real contest should be between Morrowind and Daggerfall. Whether the sheer scale and ambition win over more cohesive mechanics and much more unique worldbuilding with multilayered lore and hidden details.
My personal ranking would be:
Morrowind > Daggerfall > Skyrim >>>> Arena >>>>> getting shot in *both* kneecaps > Oblivion (without SI)
(attempting objectiveness)
Subjectively I might be guilty of swapping Skyrim and DF.
I see you dislike oblivion...
@@fattduck167 Perception check successful.
Ordered myself a SteamDeck today mainly to replay both these masterpieces 👌🏻
Morrowind is harder to get into because of the dated character graphics and gameplay. But the story is top notch and the set pieces still hold up. Also Levitation is never NOT fun, and the customizationis insane for back then! Not bad but it definitely lacks in gameplay, especially the combat
Oblivion I always found the most fun to play and while the story isn't as good there are so many tiny details. Also the DLCs are all good except for the Horse Armor. Also I wish they kept Medium Armor and the ability to wear robes over your armor.
Skyrim while having the best combat of the 3 feels smaller by comparison, also the fact they removed more skills, the ability to cast spells while having something in both hands, no birth signs, no classes, and an overall dull landscape make it hard for me personally to enjoy. But the cooking, crafting, marriage and adoption systems I do like.
I'd like to play oblivion but it's too unstable to mod to death like I do Morrowind or Skyrim
Oblivion is better to me because it's about the culture of the empire, a culture that I find rather interesting. I never have liked morrowind because I don't like the dunmer culture. I like nord and imperial culture the most as well as akaviri culture. I know that the blades are kinda idiotic in the 4th and 3rd era but the idea of an organization of dragonslayers and bodyguards for the emperor just sounds awesome to me. I like the blades, but delphine is just not a blade in my eyes. Esbern is cool but he is not a blade in my eyes. Baerus and accilius bolar and jaufrey, they are blades. I believe that skyrims blades are traitors to their own code. The blades are the guardians of the dragonborn prophecy, not cutthroat dragonslayers who would betray the dragonborn over a stupid dragon with war crimes that were long since corrected through heroic acts. The blades are defenders of the dragonborn, not dragon police.
Leveling is not pointless since you need to be a specific level to do some quests
I understand what makes Morrowind slightly better than Oblivion, but if you include the DLCs, Oblivion is definitely the better game. The shivering isles are a 10/10, no doubt
Yes.
This was a good breakdown and I agree completely. My biggest problem with Oblivion is that it discourages leveling up and my strongest character by far was a lvl 1 that never slept and had a 100 conjuration so I would just summon a Daedroth that 1 hit everything. My biggest problems with Morrowind was just the AI getting stuck on things which also happened in Oblivion but less