cat valentine literally changed and we never noticed
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
- Let me know what y’all think , did you guys notice her completely change the first time you guys watched it ? ik i didn’t till i watched it on netflix🤣 What are some more changes i didn’t catch?
Season 4 cat is constantly stressed out and uncomfortable. Season 1 cat is just really cool and someone you'd want to be friends with.
It’s only 3 seasons
@@jewelborn NO, Victorious has 4 seasons, Netflix merged season 3 and season 4. Also, the episodes in netflix is out of order, lmao 🤣🤣😆😆
@@johnlaurinceonate6865 uhm k
@@jewelborn 4*
cause of her brother, her brother changed her throughout the years
Season 1: funny and lovable
Season 2: cute
Season 3 through Sam&Cat: annoyingly dumb
Season 1 cat > Season 4 cat
I love the old Cat better before she got more annoying and dumber
agreed.
same
Right
I like the new one because she has more of a personality
@@maxi_patty Whatever
I love season 1 cat. Idk the girlyness and high pitched voice seems so artificial. (Not including like, character growth and age regression.
I personally think that Dan didn’t like the way Ariana was playing Cat and forced her to change the way she acted. Source: ruclips.net/video/VcS6BW-YjZE/видео.html)
ITS BEEN KILLING ME LITTERLY FINNALY SOMEONE NOTICES-
season 1 cat is based on misty from moodys point a show inside the amanda show it's easy to see because they were both created by dan schneider eventually cat got dumbed down and developed her own personality
This is soo sad because it’s like she is a while different character 😢😢😢
Oh I did notice. I prefer Cat in seasons 3/4. She was so cringey in Season 1. She was barely in Season 2 and Sam & Cat was just too much. Her character doesn't work as a lead and without the Victorious characters.
I like her season 4 voice but I also love how paranoid she was In season 1
**What's that supposed to mean?!**
i miss her season 1 voice not the cat in season 4 and sam and cat
Dan was going for that character from Moody’s Point on the Amanda Show. It was funny af back then but kinda got old in Victorious fast.
The One That She's Wearing On Season 1
I noticed it clearly, on first season she was weird, crazy but cute teenager. Later they just made her a dumb kid-like.. super dumb kid-like "character". Not crazy, just dumb and way much less fun
Tinkle-ade??... Lmao! Thats Dan Schneider...
I KNOW AND HER HAIR WAS SO FRIZZY
Idk about you guys but surely noticed, it was obvious
I feel like her mental health got more and more messed up throughout the show
wouldn't blame her
Yeah that’s what I was thinking
nah it was the WRITERS getting more and more lazy throughout the show.
@@plummuff nah I don't think so
Or hear me out….it’s a kids show…
I never noticed when I watched it at first but I rewatched it on Netflix and was so surprised at how much she changed
yep in the worst
This
I noticed the change. Voice got higher and she SEEMED shorter. She went from always wearing heels to never.
And her catchphrase “What’s that supposed to mean?!” wasn’t used anymore.
Similar to the change of SpongeBob. He got more silly and kid-like after the first few seasons. Mid/deep level voice less and less.
Exactly
Yes!
"my hair color has nothing to do with MY psycological problems!!!" XD that kinda explains her change XD
She said her hair color has to do with when her brother hit her over the head and her head started bleeding but she liked how the red looked in her hair
@@destinysweeney3906 yeah XD she is just insane XD
@Joe yea , after she liked how the blood looked on her hair
@Joe she lied cause she didn’t want anybody to know her business 💀
@Joe you just wanted trouble huh?
I honestly like the progression of her character because it really shows that she was more and more traumatized throughout the show, and being cutesy and happy-go-lucky was a coping mechanism
“I liked her character development because it showed her being more traumatized 😀”
Like ok what 😭😭
(Obviously I know u didn’t mean it like that I just thought it was funny)
But character development isn't up to the actor, it's up to the writers and director. So her trauma is irrelevant to the cutesy persona
Cus of her brother
@@Francesca_0 her trauma isn't connected with the actress either. It's part of how her character was written
@@Bizcuits26 I believe that she got influenced by her brother a lot throughout the seasons.
Its crazy to think about it now because back when we were younger, the brother jokes seemed normal and just part of her character. However it really does show how traumatized she was because of her brother. Do y’all remember when she told Sam that she was in a closet HIDING from her brother to SURVIVE?? The child like persona could be traced back to(POSSIBLY) her parents having to focus more on her brother since he’s “not well” and most likely dangerous and needs to be paid attention to more than their healthy daughter cat? It makes sense but of course, it’s all speculation.
It’s not that deep
It is that deep you just don’t want to get into it lmfaooo
@@blkpplareabsolutelygorgeou1691 Seek therapy.
@@OmarThePuppy for what? analyzing? damn bro why don't you tell that to game theory and other creators that analyze media
And then we find out who her brother really is in Henry Danger with Goomer and it all adds up. He really was a psychopath.
I think she changed because of her weird brother because i remember in one time she said in the episode she got trapped in a metal box in sam and cats she said "It feels like my closet when i hide from my brother" Sam: why would you hide from your brother? "You know..to survive"
That‘s really sad…
@@Yo_Yo215 good thing she doesn't find it sad.
@@eyesaiah8405 ummmmmmmmmmmmmmm
sweetie there's a thing called repressing trauma
no this turning a bubbly character to a dumb one happens in shows all the time
@@chowderscrib everyone can interpret things differently :)
I think Nickelodeon got in trouble for making comedy out of a bipolar character so making her dumb was easier
Shit, i never noticed this until now. But it kinda makes me sad, I’m studying psychology and it just kinda shows that Cat was suffering more and more during the show, she starting to create like a coping mechanism or smth. It really makes me sad, wow
How was shw suffering was it because of the idiot dan snickershdetr
We’ll yeah canonically she hid from her brother “to survive” and her parents were so mean to her that her friends encouraged her to move out after finding out she had been living at the school in hiding.
no this turning a bubbly character to a dumb one happens in shows all the time
She gets more and more flanderized to the point where she's acts like an infant by the end of Sam & Cat.
They told her curly hair wasn't "In character" for Cat Valentine . So they made her dye her hair red and straighten it. But she had to start wearing red wigs at some point because she was having hair damage. Which leads to the iconic ponytail she has now. :D
I like the curly hair better tho
I think curly works for kid-like characters like Cat. I just think kids like curly because it’s pretty.
P.S. I meant kid-like in a good way, just in case you didn’t know
when i first saw her she made me think of the 80s with her curly hair and multi colored clothes
Iconic?
@Jasmine N. go through what? Hair damage from dye and heat?
Yea I've barely noticed it know during the first few season her voice sounds normal and the last season it sounds slower and off
Explain normal? Shes bipolar
@@clay9909 did you just diagnose her with bipolar disorder??
@@ghost_gamer8921 no if you were a true fan you'd know how its true
@@clay9909 Normal as in its Ariana’s normal voice. And she’s not putting on a pretend Cat voice.
@Dylan Bostic no she already was changing since like half of season 1
When she said "ugh it's so gross how he's always hitting on every girl" she sounded like a normal highschooler, then she became a 6 year old
She was so much better on season 1😭😭 i agree with the other comments saying she progressively got worse and more traumatized
am i the only one that feels... icky about cat? i feel like she had mental health issues or was abused... i don't know, she just seemed quite unstable
well duh. have you heard the stories about her brother and how her parents are kinda mean to her. Later on in victorious it got so bad at her house that she was living in a hidden place in the school. When her friends found her, they told her to go live with her nona. Thats why she lives with nona in sam and cat
It’s a kids show it’s not that deep
@@user-ee1lr4lk6e technically it's more teen show probably that's why during I was kid I don't interests watching victorious but now I like victorious so it's depend on what age you are so it's teen show
I knew I related to her as a kid for some reason…
@@user-ee1lr4lk6e it's a teen show dude that's why they did touched on some deep stuff
She changed a lot tbh
I see no difference
@@sosimp her voice.
@@sosimp They made her dumber. In the first season, I feel like she was supposed to be more bipolar and quirky, but as the seasons went on they just made her dumb.
@@idiott101 nah
But! In Sam and cat it kinda changed
Season 1 she was wasn’t so out of her mind, and her voice was deeper, her style went from neon to bright pink
Stages of Cat 2010-2014
S1: Mature Teen
S2: Immature Teen
S3. 10 year old
S4: 6 year old
Sam and Cat: 3 Year old???!!!
more like 4 year old not 3
Y'all realize that the change has probably nothing to do with the fact that she's traumatized but that's the excuse Dan made for pushing his kinks/fetishizes onto her? Like seriously dan did it to every female but especially ari probably because she was his type.. Scary to think about looking back knowing how Dan was to all the girls..
fr like why is everyone like “i love older version cat, she’s cuter”… 😭
Thank you lmao
no literally
two things i noticed: 1) she became way dumber, 2) she went from being mature to a child slowly throughout the seasons, so she becomes younger each season
She goes down a age every season. Until she is is eventually a small child by sam and cat.
that means shes a new born by now
i always noticed and wondered why no one really talked about it. they made hER SO DUMB :(((
Dumb, but so talented, is an interesting combination
Yea
same
@SonderDAze X yes
Not dumb. She's bipolar and something. She's cray cray.
I actually preferred season 1 Cat
What’s pretty sad is that she possibly went through age-regression. As the show went on, her brother’s mental health had gotten worse, and she was possibly traumatized by her brother’s behavior, and the fact that her parents couldn’t paid ANY attention to her due to that, and to the point where they could no longer care for her when they had to take her bother to a mental-health institution out of state, leaving her to stay with her aunt and uncle for an indefinite period of time was frightening. But even when she was living with her aunt and uncle, it didn’t made things better for her since she dealt with domestic abuse from them, and was forced to run away and live in a school closet that was rodent-infested. Her mentally retreating to a younger age possibly help her cope with stress and trauma she had dealt with her family out of school.
That or it was just Dan Schneider being a sick man and making Cat looking more like a kid and making her do weird stuff cause he liked that...
Remember that they are acting
@@SanaPlaysStuff They are literally just referring to the characters, not the people who acted for Victorious.
@@dudahelena4025 they are talking about the character not the actor
no this turning a bubbly character to a dumb one happens in shows all the time
I definitely noticed the change and was so annoyed lol. She got more annoying and dumber and dumber by the season and lost every shred of personality she had in Season 1 Victorious. She ended up with zero personality. Everyone’s saying how it was because her character was traumatised by her brother yadda yadda yadda but nah I don’t think it’s even that deep, the show people thought a dumb airhead character was cute and went to town with it lmao
Yeah, but the constant talk about her traumatic home life lends itself to her at first having bipolar disorder to her developing a child-like coping mechanism. The girl said she had to lock herself in her closet to SURVIVE an attack from her brother on several occasions. It's very possible that her condition worsened throughout the show leading her to have more manic episodes. However, it was a show on Nick for pre-teens. That's pretty rough subject matter to tackle directly. Honestly, if you look at all the characters, each and everyone of them had implied mental illness or fucked up home lives. I didn't notice any of this growing up, but now rewatching the show it's becoming more and more apparent.
Exactly! Girl thank you for hitting the nail on the head 😭 💯
Reminds me of joey from friends
In real life they say every time she said no the director when he want her to do dum nasty he makes her dumber
@@deazy6453 it’s a nickelodeon show it isn’t that deep
“She is on anti-depressants which make her so perky, and her brothers abuse has caused her to revert back to a childlike state to help cope with what she's facing.”
i read this from a site :(( this is so sad.
no this turning a bubbly character to a dumb one happens in shows all the time
stop tryna make kids shows turn sad with yalls dumb theories
@@nnnn-sc2imno
season 1 cat is the best! i liked her voice and fashion style!
it’s called flanderization of a character and it’s frowned upon in writing.
Someone's getting it. The amount people in the comments trying to "explain" it was driving me nuts
Her catchphrase is "WHAT'S THAT SUPPOSED TO MEAN?!"
So does that make it a ✨catphrase✨
It’s from the Amanda show
So glad I'm not the only one who noticed this! I think the most common fan theory is that she had a bad home life and was mentally regressing, but honestly I just think it was bad writing on Nickelodeon's part :// Season 1 Cat will always be my fave
I dont think so probably Nickelodeon got called out for making Fun of a bipolar character then they changed that
Agreed
@@yasmin9038bro she was even more bipolar and crazy in season 3 and 4
Season 2-4 Cat was alright, but I enjoyed Season 1 Cat a lot more. Mainly because she was slightly more intelligent and her voice actually sounded like a bubbly but mature teenage girl, not an annoying childish one (even though it was a tiny bit cute). But that's just me
It doesn’t look like or seem like the same actor to me 🤷🏻♀️ maybe I’m wrong bc I cannot find anyone whose mentioned this
It is 💀 Ariana grande
I noticed she started changing when Begging On Your Knees was released. After Locked Up, it really started showing
Cat also wore heels in season 1-2 but in seasons 3-4 and in Sam and cat she doesn’t.
I like newer cat tbh I grew up with her more
Same
Fr
Cat in victorious is way better
Cat in Sam & Cat sucks tbh she got way dumber in Sam & Cat
Cat in season 4 is okay I guess…
Season 1: White
Season 4: Tanned
So.. we could say... The tanning sessions affect the cat's brain?
"the cat's" brain
I hate so much later Cat, I'll never understand how everyone finds her cute and adorable, she's so annoying to me, annoying behaviour, annoying voice, ugly and childish clothes and hairstyles, they made her so dumb, in season 1 she was bubbly and airhead but way more mature, she had a deeper voice and she actually looked (she even used to wear heels and make up and so on) and acted more like a teenager. She definitely was my favourite character, so sad how she ended up
It’s weird because as she got older she got younger
i feel like the reason cat became more childish was because she never had a childhood, because of her traumatic home life.
I never noticed this when I was younger, but once I rewatched the show recently, I noticed. Which resulted in me in preferring her character in season 1.
Season 1 cat coulda led a show, season 4 cat ain't got the brain power to Stay focused on the plot of the episode
While Tori's catchphrase is "I don’t talk like that!", Jade's "NO!" shouts are also legend, here we are entertained with Cat Valentine's catchphrase: "What’s that supposed to mean?!"
Season 1 cat is Season 4's elder sister.
Real life explaination: her character got flanderized.
In universe explaination: brain tumor.
Cats character was so much better in season 1/2. After that she is just plain ditsy and her voice is annoying but before she seemed human and had depth
I still remember her scenes with Robbie's annoying grandmother.
this is the human equivalent of Spongebob’s personality downfall throughout the years.
season 1 cat>>>>>>
Fan Theory
Get ready to fall down a Rabbit Hole of speculation
In the Episode "Rex Dies," Cat gets locked in the Hospital's Psych Ward and they NEVER reveal how she got out or how long she was in there. All we know is that they decided to call in "a specialist."
5 Episodes later, Season 2 happens and her voice suddenly changes, and well... you know the rest.
It's anyone's guess what kind of tests the doctors put her through and medication they gave her while she was in the psych ward (for God knows how long). Not to mention there's a solid chance she was misdiagnosed from the get-go. Remember, she got put in there because she tried to describe Rex's accident to the nurse but came off sounding completely insane.
When they finally released her, there's a good chance they prescribed her some medication. It's anyone's guess what that medication could be, but again, there's a good chance they misdiagnosed her and gave her medication for The Wrong Mental Disorder. From that point on, we have to wonder how long she may have continued to take this medication, or the long-term effects it could have had before someone realized she shouldn't be taking it... assuming she ever stopped taking it...
Well, I'm going to stop there before I go in too deep, but feel free to continue on your own and tell me your thoughts :)
I wonder if Ariana actually picked up on the cutesy behaviour irl because of her character, which has been such an ongoing thing with her (and which I love), or if she gradually made Cat more cute (and dumb) over time because that's what Ariana was like naturally as she grew up. Hm hm
She mentioned before that during that time of her career/yours truly era that she acted like Cat and took her personality bc she thought thats why the fans liked her. I do think people are thinking too deep into. Ariana has a voice thing she always does, sometimes her voice is deep like S1, sometimes she talks with a blaccent, then she talks like a high pitched baby. I think the character was dumb but the way Ariana was using that weird voice made it weirder. She talks baby like now still at 31 years old.
They shouldn't have changed her imo. Cat seemed way better and less ditzy in season one.
What do you mean no one noticed, it was like my biggest issue with her character. She was my favorite towards the beginning of the show, but down the line she just kind of got annoying.
So she’s aging backwards. Which means in each season, she gets younger and younger! 🤣
In season 1 she seemed much more like a real person (albeit slightly ditzy). By season 4, they made her so over the top stupid that it became annoying. It was the opposite of the good character development that they did with Jade, who started out as unrealistically bitchy.
She was never the same after the accident... 😰
Wht accident
y’all are over analyzing this too hard, the writers made her change
yeah but she actually really changed with the voice and everything 😭
I wish they didn’t
Season 1 she was cuter and better
S1 Cat has a bipolar personality, and the longer the show goes on, her personality changes to grow much more childish. It’s like if her angry, childish second personality manifested as her whole character
I really HATE Cat Valentine from season 2-onwards and Sam & Cat spinoff. I hate her with a burning passion. She was a tolerant character during season 1 and was mostly my favorite character, despite her ditzy nature but she was kinda smart on some moments. Her flanderization became a total wreck.
Currently rewatching with a friend. We are stopping after season 2 due to this
It's same what happened with Joey Tribbiani.
@Sabhyata Singh same that happened with cat. He was competent before but then they made him stupid.
Yes!
This is why I liked Season 1 the best. I really hated how they dumbed down her character in the later years.
If you remember the stories about her brother then you probably know why she changed so drastically. This show is kinda dark.
“what’s that supposed to mean” is from Moodys Point haha
I realized that Ariana lost a lot of weight coming down to the end and throughout Sam & Cat but she really caught herself back and is her true self again
She looked so much better, when she had more weight on her.
Did the creators confirm that she's traumatized or are yall making theories?
😭
Look, even at the most weird, she was a character in victorious. In Sam and Kat, she turned into a literal Muppet.
I like all seasons, but season one is more matur e, these days I like the more mature sides, even though I like all.
You can also see how kidd-ier she gets, in real words, how her mental health detiorates, and how she becomes more stressed -traumatised
Tbh her voice got higher she changed her hair and lost her catchphrase and got a little more bubbly
She was so much prettier in the first season.
ngl it's kinda funny seeing people act and say like the reason is because of her brother or trauma or that she's age regressing but I'm sad to break to you all that that infact is not the case. actually there is no correlation to the character. the sole reason they dumbed her down and kind of turned her into a child is because dan is just a weirdo who just told ariana to start acting and talking like that as cat lol
the only and sole reason is literally just the fact that dan schneider is an absolute sick weirdo who put his weird kinks and fetishes into his shows.
I like both- It’s just that they’re the same person? Does that make sense? It just feels better if they stuck to one character rather than suddenly switching it up
Yk when smth traumatizing happens in your life, you might either change the way you are/act because of the event itself or because of medication side effects
@@itsyaboichilde5397 I know but- it’s a teen’s TV show. I don’t think they meant to write that Cat had some traumatic experience that would change her personality- I feel like they just did it on a whim and anything unfortunate that would happen to her would be for comedic affect rather than actual character development
@@vae2036 i mean they could just make her have a traumatic experience and make it seem like a comedy trait. It's not like its the only "kid" show with serious/mature content
@@itsyaboichilde5397 But I’m saying that the reason her personality changed wasn’t because of trauma- the writers didn’t have that in mind when they made that change. It could be a realistic reason that could very well happen, but again- I think they just wrote her personality to be different on a whim and not from trauma. A kids show can have serious topics but this and that aren’t the same
C'mon, 1st season cat was the best, she had this weird and happy way but still like a teenager, but in the later seasons she got so childish that it's got really annoying, season one cat for me is the best
I actually noticed the difference between season 1 and season 4
I think Cat was getting worse with each season, in the first season of Victorious it was childish but sweet and was more mature and smart , in the second season of Victorious they took away that essence a bit but he was still a good character, In the third season of Victorious they already made her somewhat silly and a little less mature and in Sam & Cat I felt like she was a completely different character, Now she in this series I feel that they took away the maturity that she had and made her much more dumb, so in conclusion I think I liked more the Cat from the first season of Victorious
Bro her whole face changed
So im the only one who noticed this a long time ago lolz
Nah. It bugged me so much lol
wHaT's ThAT suPpoSSed tO meAN?
What if she has like- two personalities, lmao
It’s like she is getting younger as she gets older
cats always been kinda ditsy but they literally made her STUPID in s3-s4
Pilot episode cat was like a completely different person from season 4 cat
Her character changed into trying to be overly cute
Yea like I never noticed that
Fyi I'm being sarcastic :/