Just recently did this tonight, when we got everything put back together there's no resistance in the clutch cable, is it expected to need to adjust the clutch cable by the engine when you replace the plates?
Some adjustment is to be expected, yes. Does the lever return at all? Maybe you made the same mistake as me and put the pull rod on the wrong side of the pressure plate?
@@alexdombi-weridetwo I didn't remove the pull rod, I left it in place but to answer no when I tested a the clutch lever it's 100% slack no tension I adjusted all over at the lever and engine-side and minimal difference. I can't wrap my head around this one. I adjusted the little control arm piece all the way right and left and it had to be all the way left when reinstalling the cover so it would fit with the pull rod. Difficult to explain in text but to my knowledge (like 4 RUclips videos) I didn't totally butcher the job, I put the plates in a similar order to the burned out ones, the pull rod stayed, I put the outside plate the springs and bolts in and all. I'm totally stumped
I wish I had a long term test to share on them, but unfortunately my buddy was hit by a truck on this bike. He's relatively OK but the bike is totaled. After the install of the clutch he rode a few thousand miles with no issues. I am typically a fan of OEM clutches or EBC
Hello, I’m doing the same thing except I’m just replacing plates and springs. Original judder springs have been left alone. When I put the stack back together, there is some free play with the first friction plate, it’s not solidly meshed with the rest of the stack. Any ideas why?
On this bike the pressure plate needs to be seated properly. I'm sure you noticed the angled ridges on the backside of the plate. Loosen the bolts and wiggle the plate by rotating it. That may help it lock in better.
@@alexdombi-weridetwoI figured out the gap, my stack was out of order: but now the clutch cover won’t lock into place without the clutch arm being too far forward, making too much slack in the system. Is there some weird trick to doing it or is there free play in the system (perhaps the pull rod?) I’m out of ideas.
@MaxVerstappen-o4p did you make the same mistake as me with the pull rod being on the wrong side of the plate? If no, the actuator arm takes a little finagling to get it to hook in correctly. Attaching the cable first - with it disconnected from the handle bar lever- turn the arm towards the rear wheel while putting the cover on. Once it's lined up you can rotate the arm forward. Let me know if this helps. Hopefully you get it!
@@alexdombi-weridetwo I’m not sure I’m going to send it to a mechanic today around 10am but I’ve adjusted the cables and I don’t know why else my bike won’t engage when I’m gear?
@alexfernandez820 hopefully it's something simple. If it is the clutch plates it may be worth contacting the dealership you got the bike from to see if anything can be done under warranty
I was on a ride and the bike failed to engage the clutch at a stop light so I adjusted the cable then. It got me half way home an did it again, I adjusted it some more I made it home right when the issue occurred again it hasn’t accelerated after that
Disconnect the cable from the handlebar and then rotate the cable arm on the cover as you pull and rotate the cover. I'm assuming you can move the cover a little and it's not gasket sealer holding the cover on.
@@GhadSpeed did you make the same mistake I did in the video? The pull rod needs to go on first before the pressure plate. If it's in the correct way, check that the lever arm is on the pull rod.
Negative. When I got to the plate where the 3 springs go on. Taking them off the first time cycled the hub twice. I believe that’s where everything went wrong. I didn’t take anything else off. 🤦♂️
You took the springs out but didn't take the pressure plate off? The first set of friction and steel plates may be causing it to not line up. The pressude plate has little ridges that need to lock in by twisting as you put it on. If it's not sitting right, you wouldn't get any clutch cable tension.
Wow. Great video. Thank you for being so informative, and educational. Superb video quality
Thanks- Glad you enjoyed it!
Thank you, I really enjoyed this.
Hope it was helpful!
Thanks man, i know im going to be doing this at some point. I appreciate the time and effort.
Hope it helps- don't rush like I did and be sure the pull rod is on the right side of the pressure plate!
very interesting video! you deserve atleast a couple thousands of views
Thanks! I'm hopeful that it will help people working on their own motorcycles
Thinking about buying a cheap 400 that "only needs a clutch" watching this to see if i can do it might and it seems pretty simple
The hardest part is aligning the cover on install. You got this!
K's Motorsports has always treated me well.
Do you only replace the fiber plates? Where did you order them from
I replaced the fibers and steel plates. The kit I purchased from Amazon and is linked in the description 😉
Just recently did this tonight, when we got everything put back together there's no resistance in the clutch cable, is it expected to need to adjust the clutch cable by the engine when you replace the plates?
Some adjustment is to be expected, yes. Does the lever return at all?
Maybe you made the same mistake as me and put the pull rod on the wrong side of the pressure plate?
@@alexdombi-weridetwo I didn't remove the pull rod, I left it in place but to answer no when I tested a the clutch lever it's 100% slack no tension I adjusted all over at the lever and engine-side and minimal difference. I can't wrap my head around this one. I adjusted the little control arm piece all the way right and left and it had to be all the way left when reinstalling the cover so it would fit with the pull rod.
Difficult to explain in text but to my knowledge (like 4 RUclips videos) I didn't totally butcher the job, I put the plates in a similar order to the burned out ones, the pull rod stayed, I put the outside plate the springs and bolts in and all. I'm totally stumped
Yeah same issue here
Did you use oem clutch springs?
Yes, I put the OEM springs back in.
Is that a reliable clutch kit to use for the bike? Or should I go with something else
I wish I had a long term test to share on them, but unfortunately my buddy was hit by a truck on this bike. He's relatively OK but the bike is totaled. After the install of the clutch he rode a few thousand miles with no issues.
I am typically a fan of OEM clutches or EBC
Hello, I’m doing the same thing except I’m just replacing plates and springs. Original judder springs have been left alone. When I put the stack back together, there is some free play with the first friction plate, it’s not solidly meshed with the rest of the stack. Any ideas why?
On this bike the pressure plate needs to be seated properly. I'm sure you noticed the angled ridges on the backside of the plate. Loosen the bolts and wiggle the plate by rotating it. That may help it lock in better.
@@alexdombi-weridetwo will do, thank you 🙏
@@alexdombi-weridetwoI figured out the gap, my stack was out of order: but now the clutch cover won’t lock into place without the clutch arm being too far forward, making too much slack in the system. Is there some weird trick to doing it or is there free play in the system (perhaps the pull rod?) I’m out of ideas.
@MaxVerstappen-o4p did you make the same mistake as me with the pull rod being on the wrong side of the plate?
If no, the actuator arm takes a little finagling to get it to hook in correctly. Attaching the cable first - with it disconnected from the handle bar lever- turn the arm towards the rear wheel while putting the cover on. Once it's lined up you can rotate the arm forward. Let me know if this helps. Hopefully you get it!
Damm I’m almost at 12k🥲
OEM clutches usually last a lot longer with proper adjustment and care. Hopefully, you have many more miles ahead.
ok. my bike is stuck on 6th and doesn't shift down... could it be the clutch?
That's most likely the shift drum or shift forks. That requires a lot more teardown than this, unfortunately.
@@alexdombi-weridetwowould it be the same thing if the bike wouldn’t shift to 6th gear, then starts riding really rough
@@ethxntgg1971 The hard to shift in to gear may be the shift forks, yeah. But the riding rough may be something else depending on what you mean.
I cannot for the life of me get this clutch cover arm. What’s the magic word?
On or off?
@@alexdombi-weridetwo couldn’t get it on, idk what I did but after trying about 49 times I got the pull arm to line up properly
@AlexanderWrenGaming1813 wow! I wish I had a magic word to make it easier 😕
I'm glad you got it eventually, though
Same issue but my bike got 160miles only 😅
Your clutch plates are bad with 160 miles??
@@alexdombi-weridetwo I’m not sure I’m going to send it to a mechanic today around 10am but I’ve adjusted the cables and I don’t know why else my bike won’t engage when I’m gear?
@alexfernandez820 hopefully it's something simple. If it is the clutch plates it may be worth contacting the dealership you got the bike from to see if anything can be done under warranty
@@alexdombi-weridetwo yeah under warranty they should resolve it I hope I don’t have to pay for oil tho 🤞
I was on a ride and the bike failed to engage the clutch at a stop light so I adjusted the cable then. It got me half way home an did it again, I adjusted it some more I made it home right when the issue occurred again it hasn’t accelerated after that
Bro the clutch cover won’t come off for me
Disconnect the cable from the handlebar and then rotate the cable arm on the cover as you pull and rotate the cover.
I'm assuming you can move the cover a little and it's not gasket sealer holding the cover on.
@@alexdombi-weridetwo got everything back on now I’m not getting any resistance from the clutch lever lolol smh
@@GhadSpeed did you make the same mistake I did in the video? The pull rod needs to go on first before the pressure plate. If it's in the correct way, check that the lever arm is on the pull rod.
Negative. When I got to the plate where the 3 springs go on. Taking them off the first time cycled the hub twice. I believe that’s where everything went wrong.
I didn’t take anything else off. 🤦♂️
You took the springs out but didn't take the pressure plate off? The first set of friction and steel plates may be causing it to not line up. The pressude plate has little ridges that need to lock in by twisting as you put it on. If it's not sitting right, you wouldn't get any clutch cable tension.
jesus christ he put that drain bolt on tight
I was thankful the threads weren't stripped out! Yikes!!