One thing I always find interesting about the Trilogy is that Hiccup is a person with a physical disability. This is something that is rarely discussed in children's films and also shows that the world is not without consequences.
Awesome video. HTTYD is personally my favorite franchise and its amazing. I just wish for people to witness how incredible and beautiful they are. Everyone who worked on these put so much effort to making a good trilogy and many have not been able to accomplish that. I really hope The Hidden World is the final movie, let the franchise rest, awesome video.
I hope so, but unfortunately, it seems like we will be getting at the very least a live action remake, which will be pointless since it will never be able to come close to the original in terms of storytelling and score
@@InsurgentYT3 I agree. I hope it doesn’t continue the story of the final movie, but more like a prequel or showing the story between the father and the son because I’m excited for this new movie absolutely but I’m kind of afraid that it’s going to be terrible.
First sentence => Like HTTYD truely is the best and most touching Franchise I've ever seen and my love for it is actually still growing each time I see a scene or hear a piece of the score. I don't think I will ever allow myself again to love a movie or a show as much as I do love this one and it's not just the movies, the shorts and the shows are just as great
Yeah, I remember watching all the shows and every other piece of media from the franchise when I was a kid. Race to the edge my definately my favorite. Its just a shame they had to get greedy and make the modern-day httyd Spinoff.
@@InsurgentYT3 Agreed, Im currently showing a friend of me everything about this franchise and Im just so excited that hes falling in love as much as I do, thats also the reason why I watch a lot of reaction videos because I enjoy seeing these people get into these movies, it feels good. And regarding The Nine Realms, yeah its pretty sad.. I do believe that it is an interesting concept to explore what couldve been left from the vikings and dragons but its really poorly made and even if it was done good, i doubt it would truely feel like the original story
Fun fact the Speer that drago used is an actual torture weapon that was used on young wiled animals like elephants to put fear in them and obey the captor
I watched the first httyd in theaters with my poppa and we both loved it sadly he wasn’t able to join me for the other 2 but I still enjoyed them and I bet he would have too😁
How To Train Your Dragon is still my favorite DreamWorks film today!! Movies like this are what really got me into fantasy genre about Dragons. Dragon from Shrek especially. I love high fantasy, I always have and this (along with Shrek and Kung Fu Panda) is still in my opinion the King Of DreamWorks in terms of best animated films ever made. 14 years later, still a classic.
Absolutely, these films are fantastic. I listen to the music all the time. Definitely the best Dreamworks movies, although the Prince of Egypt isn't far behind.
Edit: just to be clear this is a very well made video and I enjoyed watching it I am not trying to be hateful or rude I just was bored and typed out a little rant I did not think anyone would notice or even bother reading. I respect everyone who enjoyed the hidden world the animation was great the soundtrack was great and the general cinematography was enjoyable I only really have issues with the plot. As much as I love the first two I have to disagree only because of the hidden world. They changed toothless from a sleek nimble and intelligent cat-like dragon to a dumb reptilian dog. They made his relationship with Hiccup into a dog and his master instead of best friends. They tried to paint their friendship as if it was toxic. They also took away from the message of the first two films. Instead of being a story about facing adversity and fighting for change it became a story of if things get too hard just quit. It doesn't matter if you are the closest you have ever been and will most likely ever just quit because the fight to equality is just too hard. They know that the dragons will one day be found but they just ignore that. They were so close to finally getting a world where humans and dragons could live together but they instead chose to just give up because maturity is abandoning your best friend for a girl you met a week ago. They are basically like each other's caregivers, both are disabled in some way and both help each other overcome their disability. Then they try to paint this as a toxic relationship of two people slowly growing too dependent on each other to try to justify the cliche of having to let go of your animal companion. Like in the movie cheetah, free willy, spirit, fox and the hound, pete's dragon, The Royal Tenenbaums, flipper, honey i shrunk the kids , ect I also think the light fury had an incredibly shallow personality. She got so little screen time she was just an alluring feminine night fury. She had smaller teeth and claws with less face frills which tell age according to Valka so she must be rather young. I don't personally mind her being a glittery marshmallow. I like the aesthetic but they did not have to make her so feminine. The art book literally said that their only goal was to make a feminine more mammalian night fury. The only excuse I have heard people say is that they are different spices which barely even true. They are a subspecies because they had constantly healthy and fertile offspring as was shown in the nine realms as thunder was shown to be toothless direct descendant. Not to mention the plot holes such as how do land based dragons get to the hidden world? Did they go around picking up each individual speed stinger? And what about the dragons that require very specific habitats? Do They just conveniently have every single plant and animal and biome already in the hidden world? And what about all the ecosystems they must have ruined by removing a whole order if not a class of animals. Even a toothless tail prosthetic can only move when his other tail fin moves which would greatly inhibit his movement in flight. You also can't just leave something touching your skin forever either. You can see that with real life prosthetics. It would most likely after the first week of independence cause rashes and without being able to take it off it would then become infected and slowly rot. You could say that is a plot hole with each movie but with hiccups there it could be possible that they are taking his prosthetic off and cleaning it off screen. There is just too much bs for it to be believable. The only reason they wanted to have that ending is because they felt the need to connect httyd movies into the httyd books even though they are completely different. In the books the dragons are seen more of disobedient beasts of burden which you must bend to your will to get them to corporate. But in the movies they are less stubborn and more of companions and it is seen as highly frowned upon to try to control against their will. I wanted to like the hidden world I even did at first but something felt off and the more I thought about it the more it made zero scenes. It was poorly executed and had a terrible message and was totally thematically inconsistent with the first two. I respect everyone's else's opinion but in mine it was just an overrated cash grab.
I have never thought on how non-flying dragons go to the hidden world lol. I agree with most of the things that you've said, it's a bit inconsistent but I still love it personally
And you missed the point entirely. Toothless and Hiccup leaving is essentially two friends starting their own families and seeing each other in the holidays. No friends stay and live in the same house forever, stop being a clingy bastard with attachment issues. Because forbid our dearest friends seek love and fulfillment in their lives. And mentioning nine realms?! Really? Are you an actual HTTYD fan at all? Haha. Welcome to the real world. Utopias are not and will never be a thing whatsoever. Hiccup is not a prophecy figure meant to solve all problems of the world just because you want UWU dragons to stay. If anything, forcing them to stay is what damages the ecosystem for both dragons and humans. YOU CANNOT FORCE DRAGONS TO STAY IN ONE ISLAND JUST BECAUSE ITS A "UTOPIA".
@@memecliparchives2254You are missing a point, not him. Just use your brain a little and look past the surface level. I'll help you if you are unable to do that though.
Honestly, This is without a doubt the best animated movie trilogy of our time, and I sincerely hope it continues to be discussed and watched for another half a century. It really shaped our childhood and was very relatable and will always we one of, if not my favorite movie series ever.
“There were dragons when I was a boy. Ah, there were great, grim sky dragons that nested on the clifftops like gigantic, scary birds. Little, brown, scuttly dragons that hunted down the mice and rats in well-organized packs. Preposterously huge sea dragons that were twenty times as big as the big blue whale. And heh, I”m okay with that.” - Hiccup Httyd 3 Httyd will always be a part of my life that will never take away from me, and if it was taken away it’ll be living without a heart. Growing up with them to the “end” of their friendships in httyd 3. “You have a heart of a chief and a soul of a dragon.” - Valka Haddock Httyd 2
An excellent video. This is one of the best analyses I've seen of the franchise. The first movie has been my favourite movie of all time for most of my life now and second movie is also one of my favourites. While I do have a myriad of issues with the third film, I appreciate hearing your thoughts on it and agree with you to an extent. I don't agree with the direction the story went, but your video reminded me that, given the direction it _did_ go, it did a great job.
Not a great job unfortunately, they just created a ton of plot holes and threw away a lot of things. So, considering the actual ending was like a bad dream - weird stuff without logic or anything, the ending should be open for interpretation.
Such a good video. HTTYD is truly cinema perfection, and I love this franchise. It is such a well written trilogy that can never be replaced in my childhood. Its just kind of sad that movies these days movies with such great story telling are harder to come by- but I hope that this franchise might be introduced to others so they can experience this masterpiece of a trilogy. But this franchise is certainly not perfect, but it is a franchise that will be cherished in the hearts of many.
There will be no piece of media ever that gets closer to my heart then HTTYD. Is it perfect? No. Does it have issues? Yes. But i grew up alongside these movies and there has never been a fictional character i relate more to then Hiccup.
Great Analysis Man. I'm a huge fan of the HTTYD franchise and I really enjoyed your analysis. You even made some points that I never thought of before and I agreed with a lot of what you said. Excellent video man.
HTTYD IS THE WESTERN ANIMATION EQUIVALENT TO LORD OF THE RINGS. End of story. The movies were great, the shows perfectly fit inbetween the movies adding more depth to the character growth, plots of the movies and filling in the time gaps inbetween, the holiday shorts were heartwarming, the merchandise was fun and didn’t look childish, the video games were great too! The trilogy is perfect but the whole franchise is beautiful! (Excluding the nine realms abomination) Not to mention both Hiccup and Aragon are both rightful, fair, and just kings who fight for their people but are scared to step in their father’s shadows.
LOTR, by the way, has a very similar ending to THW. But unlike THW, it's a logical and natural development of characters and established themes, and has actual realistic reasons, and that's why it's so good.
@@FireF1y644I do like Return of the King more than Hidden World, but as a trilogy on a whole with similar themes and time frame, I think HTTYD is the LOTR of western animation- it takes that top spot. Nothing can top LOTR since it’s one of a kind and even the movies didn’t completely cover everything in depth according to hardcore fans, but *in regards to western animation*, HTTYD is the equivalent.
Although there are other movies that have trilogy and yes they may have some ups and downs. HTTYD holds a special place in my heart for making me the dragon loving idiot I am today
I hate when people ask me what my favorite movie is and without hesitation I say HTTYD because of the impact it has had on my adolescent years and just straight up how it’s made. I even learned Romantic Flight on piano for my first song. Just for them to look at me weirdly and say “The animated movie with the cute dragon?!” Yes.
I love How to Train Your Dragon. While I don't think they're flawless, I consider it to be one of the great animated franchises in the world. Here I rank the movies/ 1. How To Train Your Dragon: 9/10 2. How To Train Your Dragon 2: 7.5/10 3. The Hidden World: 6/10
I totally agree. They certainly aren't flawless, but it was such a great experience to be able to grow up alongside the characters over the course of the trilogy and plays heavily into its nostalgia as a framchise. I would personally rate the movies 1. How to Train Your Dragon: 9/10 2. How to Train Your Dragon 2: 9/10 3: The Hidden World: 7/10
I'll also rate the movies, but i have watched the shows but im not going to rate them. Because theres so many episodes and seasons. How To Train Your Dragon: 9/10 How To Train Your Dragon 2: 10/10 The Hidden World: 8/10
my opinion because yes part 1: 10/10 the stuff before second part:8/10 part 2: 9/10 part 3: 6.5/10 for part 3 they made a bad story but they managed to make everything else insanely good
I kind of have a crazy relationship with the second film. I hated it a few years ago. I refused to see this film. On the one hand, because I found it shameful that the characters looked different (because I'm too stupid to realize that you also change physically as you get older). And Hiccup's father dies too. I hated every dragon that was introduced in this movie. Before the third film I watched the second film. And then I changed my mind. Today the second HTTYD movie is my favorite Dreamworks film.
The story that helped change and save the world!!! Boy befriends dragon Dragon saves boy Boy becomes chief Dragon becomes alfa Boy saves dragon Dragons save humans HTTYD 2010-2019 Dreamworks Studios and Dean Dubois Thank you for making the greatest trilogy ever!!! Httyd Forever!!!
After so many years since the third movie i still hope for a fourth movie... and i dont understand since everyone love this franchise why they dont make a fourth one... ofc with nice plot and scenario and animation like the previous ones...
I really don't understand why people say that the third movie doesn't follow the themes of the other two like... It fucking does? In the first movie Hiccup goes through a journey of self discovery, in the second movie he starts to mature and embraces his responsibilities, in the third movie is him realizing that, sometimes, you need to let go of one of the things important to you cuz nothing is eternal, you need to know when to let go of something and understand that the thing/person that helped you find your way and yourself can't always be there for you, you need to know how to live on your own without relaying on that exclusively
because how to dragon has more than one theme. one of its main themes is overcoming prejudice and fighting to change society. hiccup even ends the 2nd movie with a speech about how berk is 'the voice of peace' and that bit by bit they can change the world. these themes were completely disregarded and trampled on in the third movie when they decided 'humans don't deserve dragons' and 'there will always be people who want to harm dragons'. they essentially decided to give up and segregate (how people are meant to understand dragons when none of them are around is a mystery to me) another one of its themes, arguably the most prominent, is friendship. in the first movie they forge their friendship, in the second its tested, and in the third they grow apart and let go. now while in theory that works, the execution was terrible. because the movie was set only a year after the previous one, they didn't grow apart organically. to make a rift between them, the film completely diminishes their relationship, dumbing down their dynamic to owner and pet, as well as having toothless seemingly ready to leave hiccup for a girl he just met without a second thought. the movie, intentionally or not, takes the stance of romance being more important than friendship which cheapens the relationship between hiccup and toothless for someone like me, where the themes i discussed are what made me connect so deeply to the first 2 movies, the last movie is painful to watch and almost feels like a betrayal. if however the themes discussed in this video were what made you love the franchise so much, then i completely understand why you would still love the movie
@@blobby883 to me that was a sign of growth, they were naive to think that they could live in peace with the dragons and protect them, letting them go was accepting that there are battles that you can't win because the problems like thses can't be solved in like -10 years or something, so letting the dragons go to a place where they would be safe was mostly their best option to protect them and the human race, as long as there were dragons there would be always people taking advantage of them. Toothless did not leave because of the Light Fury, he left because he is the leader and he wanted to do the best for his race, if you were in his place, would you: A) Leave your best friend behind because you need to protect your kind as you're the example they're supposed to follow; B) Stay with your friend and risk to put your kind in danger like they were before I think Toothless made the right choice, of course, friendships are important but taking care of your responsibilities should always come first.
@@ninalove_9 that was not a sign of growth,, it was regression. during the civil rights movement was it naive of people to think racism could end? racism still exists so should we just give up and segregate? should we just give up on equality? i obviously don't think that the dragons could have been completely accepted within 10 years, or even within hiccups lifetime. but just because you won't live to see the fruits of your labour, doesn't mean you should give up. berk had already made leaps and bounds of progress. berkians aren't some sort of uniquely accepting hyper progressive people. if berkians can come to accept dragons, any community can when given time. the how to train your dragon movies constantly show that humans and dragons are better TOGETHER. and although the movie claims dragons will come back when the time is right and they will be accepted, that's completely illogical. people very rarely accept things they don't understand. by sending the dragons to the hidden world, hiccup not only gave up on future progress but also lost all progress that had already been made and i honestly can't take the idea that it was too dangerous seriously. we saw 6 people stop an entire armada, and right after that they're going to say it's too dangerous and they can't protect them? if there was actually any consequences to the battle in THW i might be more convinced, but from what i saw they seem to be doing an excellent job protecting the dragons and also in terms of toothless: i'm not talking about when he leaves in the end, but rather towards the middle. after he flies off people start thinking that hiccup is wrong for thinking toothless would come back now that he can fly on his own and its really strange. i could have overlooked that, but when hiccup goes to the hidden world i got the very strong impression that toothless wasn't going to come back if hiccup didn't go looking for him. if that wasn't the intention then it was poorly directed
@@blobby883 I feel like that's a really terrible comparison, people are the same, no matter the color, race, sexuality, gender, whatever, they're essentially the same, but then you look at dragons and people and like, those guys are literally flying fire-breathing lizards and their intelligence isn't as developed as human's, toothless was mostly and exception to this, maybe because he is a night fury and they're known for being quite intelligent, so if you know how to control them, their weakness and all, you can easily take advantage of that and use the guys as very dangerous weapons, which can easily annihilate anything in their path if the right mind is controlling them. Our society has proven time and time again that strength + intelligence isn't a good combo. Of course the conflicts wouldn't end even if the dragons were gone, but at least if there were conflicts they wouldn't be using and exploiting these creatures of massive destruction for their own gain, it's a lose-lose situation. Separating humans from dragons at least until society has become less greedier is really the best option they had here for both species. Imagine idk, if people were allowed to own dragons irl, there would definitely be people exploiting the creatures to get revenge or something they really want for the sake of themselves, this ain't about different races, this is about different species, if they can live in the wild, they should live in the wild, just like real wild animals. I can understand Toothless decision there, till that point he had always felt like he was the only one and there wasn't any hope of him finding at least someone like him that he could call family, then, against all odds, he actually found someone, there was no way he could let the opportunity slide, and then again, Toothless is still a wild animal, he still feels the need to reproduce, that's just how nature is, he's following his instincts, that does not mean he forgot about Hiccup AT ALL, it just means that he can be an individual without Hiccup, they're not the same person, they should have separate and distinctive lives.
@@ninalove_9 while it's not a perfect comparison, when you extrapolate the themes of the first two movies onto the real world, prejudice against spieces/people who are different (e.g racism), and striving to change that (e.g. the civil rights movement) is essentially what it's about. it's only because these themes were so present in the first 2 movies that i feel this is a valid comparison despite the obvious difference. obviously if we look at the plot in isolation and ignore the themes of the first 2 movies, the decision be seen as very understandable. but your original comment said you didn't understand why people think the third movie doesn't follow the themes. it's because these themes were set up that i can make these comparisons, which is why the complete disregard of this in order to have the third movie end the way it did hurts so much and honestly i don't think what toothless did was that understandable. hiccup is his closest friend and they've been through so much together. the fact it didn't seem like he was even planning to go back to say goodbye really rubs me the wrong way. i understand if that's not something that bothers you that much, but for a lot of people it did feel like a tarnish on their friendship. and because the growth of their friendship and their loyalty is one of the main themes, that's another reason why so many people feel httyd thw didn't follow through on some of the themes that well. (and also you have to understand that the people who get most invested about themes of friendship are also the group of people most likely to dislike the idea that romance > friendship, which is what this seems to push weather you feel it's accurate to the characters or not)
I'll always prefer Dreamworks to Disney. While Kung Fu Panda is my favorite trilogy (ever), HTTYD is a close second. The Hidden World is one of my all-time favorite films. I also do love the first two.
@InsurgentYT3 90% of the time, they make me want to stop watching TV altogether. Such a lazy way of creating art imo. "Hey, this worked in the 80s let's make it again but real!"
The first film is one of my all time favorite movies. The other two, I like them, but I don’t like how they dropped way too much worldbuilding and character development from the shows.
I think that it was necessary to drop the content from the shows since not everyone watched them and would feel lost if it was included. It's like what disney is doing right now with Marvel. You have to watch the shows to understand any of the movies, which feel like a massive waste of time on the audience's part. So for that reason im glad they did what they did with HTTYD
@@InsurgentYT3Yep, its the same mistake with the prequel trilogy. If i get to choose the Clone Wars to exist over the prequels, id choose the Clone Wars unfortunately. Because the Clone Wars basically told the necessary bits of the prequel era than the prequel movies did.
I respect everyone who dislikes hidden world, but, I think that"s... it is just hard and sad reality of life... sorry... this is what happend to people, they found love and chose it over friendship most of the time, i know hdw is not that well made like others movies, but i think it is not that bad and it is just sad true.
I disagree. The first two movies are more than great, but HTTYD 3 desintegrates Toothless, Hiccup, and the whole franchise. Toothless was stripped of his personality in HTTYD 3, and his relationship with the Light Fury is just so forced. The rest of the gang is used as mere comic relief, barely doing anything. Also, Hiccup, who was supposed to be this average-looking, small, thin guy, is just a gigachad now for no reason. The entire movie looks plastic-like. But the worst thing is that it does a complete 180 on the message of the first two films: peace between man and dragon. "We are the voice of peace, and bit by bit, we will change this world" This is what the previous movie ended on. But in HTTTYD 3, the villain literally wins. The Night Furies go extinct, and dragons and humans are separated. Hiccup abandons all his ideals because of a man much less a threat than Drago did some bad things and said some tough shit. This wouldve only encouraged the real Hiccup more, but this version just gives up. And another message this movie betrays is the message of friendship. HTTYD shows Hiccup and Toothless bonding and Toothless almost sacrificing himself for Hiccup. HTTYD 2 shows Toothless overcoming literal mind control to save his friend. But according to HTTYD 3, romantic relationships are better than and preferable to friendships and Hiccup and Toothless go their separate ways to pursue their love interests, if you can even call the Light Fury that. If you wanna spread the message of having to let go, dont do it with a franchise whose main message was the power of friendship overcoming everything.
You mean how Andy similarly goes to college and leaves his toys to Bonnie? Sure, whatever you say. Hiccup is not a figure who should force a vision of the world. Especially when it just involves placing all dragons he can rescue in one place.
@@memecliparchives2254 Comparing Hiccup and Toothless to Andy and Woody is insulting on a whole other level. To Andy, his toys were just mere inanimate objects and Woody wasnt his best friend in the whole world, his brother. These two things are beyond incomparable. Would you just leave your best friend to a little sibling? And considering how easy it was to convince Berk to make peace with dragons, it wouldnt be much forcing as just more convincing. When warring with flying fire-breathing reptiles, what Average Joe wouldnt say "Yeah, Id rather stop fighting them than watch my village burn down every 2 days". And Hiccup in the third film did force a vision on the world, namely that dragons and humans should never interact again. It was just much easier and in a way much more forceful than spreading peace.
@@zack4915So which is it? Should Andy let go or not since Woody and his childhood toys are inanimate objects, so could he have just thrown them in the basement or just in the thrash? Lol, what? So youre saying dragons should end up being bargaining chips like nukes to force a vision of peace? Thats not peace whatsoever. People can just pretend to that and use dragons to their own personal benefit anyway. And no, Hiccup at the end finally accepts the reality that dragons are not uwu creatures that should be forced to live on the same confined island. If Berk suddenly hated dragons and wanted to kill them, thats breaking character. But there's no such thing, since all of Berk loves their dragons so much that it hurts them to let go and vice versa. But its a decision they have to do because it paints a target on their home in which it was almost destroyed twice by villains now.
@@memecliparchives2254 Yeah, Andy should let go, because his toys are inanimate objects that have mere sentimental and nostalgic value to him, they arent best buddies. And no, dragons shouldnt and wouldnt be used as bargaining chips. Your vision of the relationship between Berkians and their dragons is skewed and so is your view of dragons themselves. Youre actually the one viewing them as "uwu creatures", incapable of their own decisions (which the third movie ignores, what with all dragons leaving their riders just like that). The relationship between Berkians and dragons is one of equals, as weve seen time and time again. And weve seen that enslaving dragons takes time, resources, skill, and commitment, and if the majority of society was friendly with dragons, such an enslaving operation wouldnt come to fruition. And if youd watched RTTE youd know that Berk wasnt the only place dragons lived as weve seen them across the archipelago. Where do you think them Speed Stingers would be kept on Berk? This is just another major flaw of the third film. Hiccup "letting go" of the dragons is breaking character. He was an optimist who had hope and saw a possibility for change in everyone, like his father, or like Drago. In the third film, he just gives up. Berk is just objectively stronger with dragons, and bonded dragons are stronger than enslaved ones. If we took Dragos armada minus the dragons vs Berk, he would absolutely have wiped the floor with the Berkians, and we know that his goal was conquest and not eliminating dragons.
There are two types of HTTYD fans: The ones who make these mature self exploration videos about growing up and facing difficulties And: "I love dragons"
And unfortunately, the whole "Letting go" part was forced, unnatural and contradicted the ideas of first two films, which are bonding, following your ideals, changing the world for the better against all odds and coexistance in piece. Instead of that, the third movie is about unfixable warring human nature, giving up your ideals and necessary segregation (themes that are not so bad in themselves but work very poorly in the context of this universe and these characters). The same happens with the "letting go" theme - not only it's execution is unrealistic and illogical (can elaborate if needed, but it's less important anyway), but it also doesn't fit in the already established world and characters (which, among other things, leads to Toothless acting completely out of character in the third movie, and that's just scratching the surface). And on top of that, i'd personally say that spreading such messages (like giving up and others) is a very bad and even dangerous idea (although this could have happened by accident due to the desire to force such an ending). I wish that I could say something like - "hey, at least it was a proper conclusion of the story, and nobody will be able to make the Star Wars sequels of HTTYD". But now you have The Nine Realms, which is kind of a disaster. So they failed even there :(
Although I see where you’re coming from, I disagree that HTTYD is a good trilogy. The first one was great, yes, and the second one was fine too. But the third is not a good movie, and definitely not a fitting conclusion. I could go into more detail why I think so, but I don’t want this comment to become extremely long.
Nah, dont bother. Stop raining on the positivity of this video celebrating the trilogy. I already know whats gonna be that "argument"...... Your ludicrous and repulsive opinions dont belong here.
almost perfect the last one was inconsistent and ableist and sexist and hiccup gave up after fighting someone less dangerous than the threats he faced before. the third movie is an assassination of its characters and the series as a whole. even the ending doesn't make sense if the dragons are hidden then how will the world know what to except what is hidden and now considering nonexistent? it also made toothless a dumb goofball that abandoned hiccup for some lady dragon and he didn't even seem to care about hiccup in the third film.
@@InsurgentYT3Dude, I advise not to engage these sentiments at all. They are all typical Twitter posts. Just don't, they are disgusting filth that should have never been treated with respect and ecency because they are incapable of giving it to others.
One thing I always find interesting about the Trilogy is that Hiccup is a person with a physical disability. This is something that is rarely discussed in children's films and also shows that the world is not without consequences.
No fucking way bist du in dieser Kommentarsektion 😂
Really? That’s pretty cool is it in the books or smith?
Not really a trilogy however, only the first two movies. In the third one they just kind of forgot about all that, just like many other things.
They did it so fluently too
Unless Spiderverse has a spectacular third entry, HTTYD will forever be the greatest animated trilogy of all time.
The first two cant even catch up already
You can never compare the two
Kung Fu Panda Better 😤
@zoorockf1Im sure we can all agree that both are S tier trilogies anyway.
@@vynongaming553 both spider verse movies are already better than all the how to train your Dragon movies
HTTYD is literally the best franchise DreamWorks has ever created. No cap. Can’t change my mind.
No need to change your mind when you're only spitting facts
Maybe you will when the live action crap comes out.
@@BaldAndCurious Remakes don’t count.😁
@@tytheaniman497 🤣
Meh, its mid
Awesome video. HTTYD is personally my favorite franchise and its amazing. I just wish for people to witness how incredible and beautiful they are. Everyone who worked on these put so much effort to making a good trilogy and many have not been able to accomplish that. I really hope The Hidden World is the final movie, let the franchise rest, awesome video.
I hope so, but unfortunately, it seems like we will be getting at the very least a live action remake, which will be pointless since it will never be able to come close to the original in terms of storytelling and score
@@InsurgentYT3 I agree. I hope it doesn’t continue the story of the final movie, but more like a prequel or showing the story between the father and the son because I’m excited for this new movie absolutely but I’m kind of afraid that it’s going to be terrible.
@@InsurgentYT3 I'll be ok with it if they make it more like the book series there's an entirely different story they could tell
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HTTYD truely is the best and most touching Franchise I've ever seen and my love for it is actually still growing each time I see a scene or hear a piece of the score.
I don't think I will ever allow myself again to love a movie or a show as much as I do love this one and it's not just the movies, the shorts and the shows are just as great
Yeah, I remember watching all the shows and every other piece of media from the franchise when I was a kid. Race to the edge my definately my favorite. Its just a shame they had to get greedy and make the modern-day httyd Spinoff.
@@InsurgentYT3 Agreed, Im currently showing a friend of me everything about this franchise and Im just so excited that hes falling in love as much as I do, thats also the reason why I watch a lot of reaction videos because I enjoy seeing these people get into these movies, it feels good.
And regarding The Nine Realms, yeah its pretty sad.. I do believe that it is an interesting concept to explore what couldve been left from the vikings and dragons but its really poorly made and even if it was done good, i doubt it would truely feel like the original story
Fun fact the Speer that drago used is an actual torture weapon that was used on young wiled animals like elephants to put fear in them and obey the captor
I watched the first httyd in theaters with my poppa and we both loved it sadly he wasn’t able to join me for the other 2 but I still enjoyed them and I bet he would have too😁
How To Train Your Dragon is still my favorite DreamWorks film today!! Movies like this are what really got me into fantasy genre about Dragons. Dragon from Shrek especially.
I love high fantasy, I always have and this (along with Shrek and Kung Fu Panda) is still in my opinion the King Of DreamWorks in terms of best animated films ever made.
14 years later, still a classic.
Absolutely, these films are fantastic. I listen to the music all the time. Definitely the best Dreamworks movies, although the Prince of Egypt isn't far behind.
Edit: just to be clear this is a very well made video and I enjoyed watching it I am not trying to be hateful or rude I just was bored and typed out a little rant I did not think anyone would notice or even bother reading. I respect everyone who enjoyed the hidden world the animation was great the soundtrack was great and the general cinematography was enjoyable I only really have issues with the plot.
As much as I love the first two I have to disagree only because of the hidden world. They changed toothless from a sleek nimble and intelligent cat-like dragon to a dumb reptilian dog. They made his relationship with Hiccup into a dog and his master instead of best friends. They tried to paint their friendship as if it was toxic. They also took away from the message of the first two films. Instead of being a story about facing adversity and fighting for change it became a story of if things get too hard just quit. It doesn't matter if you are the closest you have ever been and will most likely ever just quit because the fight to equality is just too hard. They know that the dragons will one day be found but they just ignore that. They were so close to finally getting a world where humans and dragons could live together but they instead chose to just give up because maturity is abandoning your best friend for a girl you met a week ago.
They are basically like each other's caregivers, both are disabled in some way and both help each other overcome their disability. Then they try to paint this as a toxic relationship of two people slowly growing too dependent on each other to try to justify the cliche of having to let go of your animal companion. Like in the movie cheetah, free willy, spirit, fox and the hound, pete's dragon, The Royal Tenenbaums, flipper, honey i shrunk the kids , ect
I also think the light fury had an incredibly shallow personality. She got so little screen time she was just an alluring feminine night fury. She had smaller teeth and claws with less face frills which tell age according to Valka so she must be rather young. I don't personally mind her being a glittery marshmallow. I like the aesthetic but they did not have to make her so feminine. The art book literally said that their only goal was to make a feminine more mammalian night fury. The only excuse I have heard people say is that they are different spices which barely even true. They are a subspecies because they had constantly healthy and fertile offspring as was shown in the nine realms as thunder was shown to be toothless direct descendant.
Not to mention the plot holes such as how do land based dragons get to the hidden world? Did they go around picking up each individual speed stinger? And what about the dragons that require very specific habitats? Do They just conveniently have every single plant and animal and biome already in the hidden world? And what about all the ecosystems they must have ruined by removing a whole order if not a class of animals. Even a toothless tail prosthetic can only move when his other tail fin moves which would greatly inhibit his movement in flight. You also can't just leave something touching your skin forever either. You can see that with real life prosthetics. It would most likely after the first week of independence cause rashes and without being able to take it off it would then become infected and slowly rot. You could say that is a plot hole with each movie but with hiccups there it could be possible that they are taking his prosthetic off and cleaning it off screen. There is just too much bs for it to be believable.
The only reason they wanted to have that ending is because they felt the need to connect httyd movies into the httyd books even though they are completely different. In the books the dragons are seen more of disobedient beasts of burden which you must bend to your will to get them to corporate. But in the movies they are less stubborn and more of companions and it is seen as highly frowned upon to try to control against their will.
I wanted to like the hidden world I even did at first but something felt off and the more I thought about it the more it made zero scenes. It was poorly executed and had a terrible message and was totally thematically inconsistent with the first two. I respect everyone's else's opinion but in mine it was just an overrated cash grab.
100%
I have never thought on how non-flying dragons go to the hidden world lol. I agree with most of the things that you've said, it's a bit inconsistent but I still love it personally
@@efrenbaylon7364 fair enough. I am glad you got some enjoyment were I could not.
And you missed the point entirely.
Toothless and Hiccup leaving is essentially two friends starting their own families and seeing each other in the holidays.
No friends stay and live in the same house forever, stop being a clingy bastard with attachment issues.
Because forbid our dearest friends seek love and fulfillment in their lives.
And mentioning nine realms?! Really? Are you an actual HTTYD fan at all? Haha.
Welcome to the real world. Utopias are not and will never be a thing whatsoever.
Hiccup is not a prophecy figure meant to solve all problems of the world just because you want UWU dragons to stay.
If anything, forcing them to stay is what damages the ecosystem for both dragons and humans. YOU CANNOT FORCE DRAGONS TO STAY IN ONE ISLAND JUST BECAUSE ITS A "UTOPIA".
@@memecliparchives2254You are missing a point, not him. Just use your brain a little and look past the surface level. I'll help you if you are unable to do that though.
Honestly, This is without a doubt the best animated movie trilogy of our time, and I sincerely hope it continues to be discussed and watched for another half a century. It really shaped our childhood and was very relatable and will always we one of, if not my favorite movie series ever.
“There were dragons when I was a boy. Ah, there were great, grim sky dragons that nested on the clifftops like gigantic, scary birds. Little, brown, scuttly dragons that hunted down the mice and rats in well-organized packs. Preposterously huge sea dragons that were twenty times as big as the big blue whale. And heh, I”m okay with that.”
- Hiccup Httyd 3
Httyd will always be a part of my life that will never take away from me, and if it was taken away it’ll be living without a heart. Growing up with them to the “end” of their friendships in httyd 3.
“You have a heart of a chief and a soul of a dragon.” - Valka Haddock Httyd 2
A very illogical and forced "end", unfortunately
Such an incredibly well written video, breathes new life into my already strong love for this trilogy. Thank you for this!!
Im glad you enjoyed it! Thank you for the comment!
It's kind of crazy that the second HTTYD film is 10 years old and the third HTTYD is 5 years old this year.
instant sub. HTTYD is my love like taylor is to a swiftie. You summed up my love for all these movies perfectly. and ofc THE MUSIC HITS DIF
Thank you for the sub! It means a lot, especially for a small channel like mine :)
An excellent video. This is one of the best analyses I've seen of the franchise. The first movie has been my favourite movie of all time for most of my life now and second movie is also one of my favourites. While I do have a myriad of issues with the third film, I appreciate hearing your thoughts on it and agree with you to an extent. I don't agree with the direction the story went, but your video reminded me that, given the direction it _did_ go, it did a great job.
Not a great job unfortunately, they just created a ton of plot holes and threw away a lot of things. So, considering the actual ending was like a bad dream - weird stuff without logic or anything, the ending should be open for interpretation.
Preach brother.
I will always love this franchise and everything in it.
Thank you for your great work, keep it up!
Thank you very much! I appreciate the support!
Such a good video. HTTYD is truly cinema perfection, and I love this franchise. It is such a well written trilogy that can never be replaced in my childhood. Its just kind of sad that movies these days movies with such great story telling are harder to come by- but I hope that this franchise might be introduced to others so they can experience this masterpiece of a trilogy. But this franchise is certainly not perfect, but it is a franchise that will be cherished in the hearts of many.
Yeah, im so glad I was growing up when these and so many other great movies were coming out. I can't imagine how bad childhood is nowadays
There will be no piece of media ever that gets closer to my heart then HTTYD.
Is it perfect? No. Does it have issues? Yes.
But i grew up alongside these movies and there has never been a fictional character i relate more to then Hiccup.
Great Analysis Man. I'm a huge fan of the HTTYD franchise and I really enjoyed your analysis. You even made some points that I never thought of before and I agreed with a lot of what you said. Excellent video man.
Thank you! I appreciate the encouragement. I spent quite a bit of time on it, so I'm glad you enjoyed it!
@@InsurgentYT3 it would be interesting to see you make a video on the Kung Fu Panda movies after 4 comes out.
Thats a good idea. Ill keep that in mind when it comes out!
HTTYD IS THE WESTERN ANIMATION EQUIVALENT TO LORD OF THE RINGS. End of story.
The movies were great, the shows perfectly fit inbetween the movies adding more depth to the character growth, plots of the movies and filling in the time gaps inbetween, the holiday shorts were heartwarming, the merchandise was fun and didn’t look childish, the video games were great too! The trilogy is perfect but the whole franchise is beautiful! (Excluding the nine realms abomination)
Not to mention both Hiccup and Aragon are both rightful, fair, and just kings who fight for their people but are scared to step in their father’s shadows.
As much as I love HTTYD, nothing compares to The Lord of The Rings. That trilogy is on a whole other level.
@@InsurgentYT3 it’s the closest to it or at least HTTYD is the LoTR of western animation.
LOTR, by the way, has a very similar ending to THW.
But unlike THW, it's a logical and natural development of characters and established themes, and has actual realistic reasons, and that's why it's so good.
@@FireF1y644I do like Return of the King more than Hidden World, but as a trilogy on a whole with similar themes and time frame, I think HTTYD is the LOTR of western animation- it takes that top spot. Nothing can top LOTR since it’s one of a kind and even the movies didn’t completely cover everything in depth according to hardcore fans, but *in regards to western animation*, HTTYD is the equivalent.
While I do slightly prefer the Kung Fu Panda trilogy, HTTYD is definitely the animated Lord of the Rings.
Although there are other movies that have trilogy and yes they may have some ups and downs. HTTYD holds a special place in my heart for making me the dragon loving idiot I am today
I hate when people ask me what my favorite movie is and without hesitation I say HTTYD because of the impact it has had on my adolescent years and just straight up how it’s made. I even learned Romantic Flight on piano for my first song. Just for them to look at me weirdly and say “The animated movie with the cute dragon?!” Yes.
I never thought that a Channel whit 281 Subscribers just made me cry. Like litterly the showed us the most heartbreaking scenes in the movie
Yeah, having to edit through stoicks' death scene multiple times was rough
This is so cool! I love httyd with all my heart
I agree httyd is one of my most beloved franchises ever
I miss HTTYD🥺🤍✨🖤💕🔥🐲
My oldest brother watched it on the movie theater when he was seven and I wish I had the same experience as him😢
I love How to Train Your Dragon. While I don't think they're flawless, I consider it to be one of the great animated franchises in the world. Here I rank the movies/
1. How To Train Your Dragon: 9/10
2. How To Train Your Dragon 2: 7.5/10
3. The Hidden World: 6/10
I totally agree. They certainly aren't flawless, but it was such a great experience to be able to grow up alongside the characters over the course of the trilogy and plays heavily into its nostalgia as a framchise. I would personally rate the movies
1. How to Train Your Dragon: 9/10
2. How to Train Your Dragon 2: 9/10
3: The Hidden World: 7/10
@@InsurgentYT3 I think you've heard of Riders of Berk, Defenders of Berk and Race to the Edge.
I'll also rate the movies, but i have watched the shows but im not going to rate them. Because theres so many episodes and seasons.
How To Train Your Dragon: 9/10
How To Train Your Dragon 2: 10/10
The Hidden World: 8/10
my opinion because yes
part 1: 10/10
the stuff before second part:8/10
part 2: 9/10
part 3: 6.5/10
for part 3 they made a bad story but they managed to make everything else insanely good
5/10 for The Hidden World for the visuals and the music.
I kind of have a crazy relationship with the second film. I hated it a few years ago. I refused to see this film. On the one hand, because I found it shameful that the characters looked different (because I'm too stupid to realize that you also change physically as you get older). And Hiccup's father dies too. I hated every dragon that was introduced in this movie. Before the third film I watched the second film. And then I changed my mind. Today the second HTTYD movie is my favorite Dreamworks film.
The story that helped change and save the world!!!
Boy befriends dragon
Dragon saves boy
Boy becomes chief
Dragon becomes alfa
Boy saves dragon
Dragons save humans
HTTYD 2010-2019
Dreamworks Studios and
Dean Dubois
Thank you for making the greatest trilogy ever!!!
Httyd Forever!!!
After so many years since the third movie i still hope for a fourth movie... and i dont understand since everyone love this franchise why they dont make a fourth one... ofc with nice plot and scenario and animation like the previous ones...
Live action was announced though. Dont know if it will be good or not. Lets just hope its as good as the animated one
@@Trollnix2 yeah i am hanging on it! and since the production is not netflix i have high standards for this movie!
I really don't understand why people say that the third movie doesn't follow the themes of the other two like... It fucking does? In the first movie Hiccup goes through a journey of self discovery, in the second movie he starts to mature and embraces his responsibilities, in the third movie is him realizing that, sometimes, you need to let go of one of the things important to you cuz nothing is eternal, you need to know when to let go of something and understand that the thing/person that helped you find your way and yourself can't always be there for you, you need to know how to live on your own without relaying on that exclusively
because how to dragon has more than one theme.
one of its main themes is overcoming prejudice and fighting to change society. hiccup even ends the 2nd movie with a speech about how berk is 'the voice of peace' and that bit by bit they can change the world. these themes were completely disregarded and trampled on in the third movie when they decided 'humans don't deserve dragons' and 'there will always be people who want to harm dragons'. they essentially decided to give up and segregate (how people are meant to understand dragons when none of them are around is a mystery to me)
another one of its themes, arguably the most prominent, is friendship. in the first movie they forge their friendship, in the second its tested, and in the third they grow apart and let go. now while in theory that works, the execution was terrible. because the movie was set only a year after the previous one, they didn't grow apart organically. to make a rift between them, the film completely diminishes their relationship, dumbing down their dynamic to owner and pet, as well as having toothless seemingly ready to leave hiccup for a girl he just met without a second thought. the movie, intentionally or not, takes the stance of romance being more important than friendship which cheapens the relationship between hiccup and toothless
for someone like me, where the themes i discussed are what made me connect so deeply to the first 2 movies, the last movie is painful to watch and almost feels like a betrayal. if however the themes discussed in this video were what made you love the franchise so much, then i completely understand why you would still love the movie
@@blobby883 to me that was a sign of growth, they were naive to think that they could live in peace with the dragons and protect them, letting them go was accepting that there are battles that you can't win because the problems like thses can't be solved in like -10 years or something, so letting the dragons go to a place where they would be safe was mostly their best option to protect them and the human race, as long as there were dragons there would be always people taking advantage of them.
Toothless did not leave because of the Light Fury, he left because he is the leader and he wanted to do the best for his race, if you were in his place, would you:
A) Leave your best friend behind because you need to protect your kind as you're the example they're supposed to follow;
B) Stay with your friend and risk to put your kind in danger like they were before
I think Toothless made the right choice, of course, friendships are important but taking care of your responsibilities should always come first.
@@ninalove_9 that was not a sign of growth,, it was regression. during the civil rights movement was it naive of people to think racism could end? racism still exists so should we just give up and segregate? should we just give up on equality? i obviously don't think that the dragons could have been completely accepted within 10 years, or even within hiccups lifetime. but just because you won't live to see the fruits of your labour, doesn't mean you should give up. berk had already made leaps and bounds of progress. berkians aren't some sort of uniquely accepting hyper progressive people. if berkians can come to accept dragons, any community can when given time. the how to train your dragon movies constantly show that humans and dragons are better TOGETHER. and although the movie claims dragons will come back when the time is right and they will be accepted, that's completely illogical. people very rarely accept things they don't understand. by sending the dragons to the hidden world, hiccup not only gave up on future progress but also lost all progress that had already been made
and i honestly can't take the idea that it was too dangerous seriously. we saw 6 people stop an entire armada, and right after that they're going to say it's too dangerous and they can't protect them? if there was actually any consequences to the battle in THW i might be more convinced, but from what i saw they seem to be doing an excellent job protecting the dragons
and also in terms of toothless:
i'm not talking about when he leaves in the end, but rather towards the middle. after he flies off people start thinking that hiccup is wrong for thinking toothless would come back now that he can fly on his own and its really strange. i could have overlooked that, but when hiccup goes to the hidden world i got the very strong impression that toothless wasn't going to come back if hiccup didn't go looking for him. if that wasn't the intention then it was poorly directed
@@blobby883 I feel like that's a really terrible comparison, people are the same, no matter the color, race, sexuality, gender, whatever, they're essentially the same, but then you look at dragons and people and like, those guys are literally flying fire-breathing lizards and their intelligence isn't as developed as human's, toothless was mostly and exception to this, maybe because he is a night fury and they're known for being quite intelligent, so if you know how to control them, their weakness and all, you can easily take advantage of that and use the guys as very dangerous weapons, which can easily annihilate anything in their path if the right mind is controlling them. Our society has proven time and time again that strength + intelligence isn't a good combo. Of course the conflicts wouldn't end even if the dragons were gone, but at least if there were conflicts they wouldn't be using and exploiting these creatures of massive destruction for their own gain, it's a lose-lose situation. Separating humans from dragons at least until society has become less greedier is really the best option they had here for both species. Imagine idk, if people were allowed to own dragons irl, there would definitely be people exploiting the creatures to get revenge or something they really want for the sake of themselves, this ain't about different races, this is about different species, if they can live in the wild, they should live in the wild, just like real wild animals.
I can understand Toothless decision there, till that point he had always felt like he was the only one and there wasn't any hope of him finding at least someone like him that he could call family, then, against all odds, he actually found someone, there was no way he could let the opportunity slide, and then again, Toothless is still a wild animal, he still feels the need to reproduce, that's just how nature is, he's following his instincts, that does not mean he forgot about Hiccup AT ALL, it just means that he can be an individual without Hiccup, they're not the same person, they should have separate and distinctive lives.
@@ninalove_9 while it's not a perfect comparison, when you extrapolate the themes of the first two movies onto the real world, prejudice against spieces/people who are different (e.g racism), and striving to change that (e.g. the civil rights movement) is essentially what it's about. it's only because these themes were so present in the first 2 movies that i feel this is a valid comparison despite the obvious difference. obviously if we look at the plot in isolation and ignore the themes of the first 2 movies, the decision be seen as very understandable. but your original comment said you didn't understand why people think the third movie doesn't follow the themes. it's because these themes were set up that i can make these comparisons, which is why the complete disregard of this in order to have the third movie end the way it did hurts so much
and honestly i don't think what toothless did was that understandable. hiccup is his closest friend and they've been through so much together. the fact it didn't seem like he was even planning to go back to say goodbye really rubs me the wrong way. i understand if that's not something that bothers you that much, but for a lot of people it did feel like a tarnish on their friendship. and because the growth of their friendship and their loyalty is one of the main themes, that's another reason why so many people feel httyd thw didn't follow through on some of the themes that well. (and also you have to understand that the people who get most invested about themes of friendship are also the group of people most likely to dislike the idea that romance > friendship, which is what this seems to push weather you feel it's accurate to the characters or not)
Next to HTTYD, Kung fu panda also sits atop that high pedestal.
I'll always prefer Dreamworks to Disney. While Kung Fu Panda is my favorite trilogy (ever), HTTYD is a close second. The Hidden World is one of my all-time favorite films. I also do love the first two.
this made me cry
0:07 you had me at hello
See yall boys in httyd land in epic universe soon !
I can’t wait to see the live action adaptation.
I still haven't decided if I'm going to see it or not. Live action adaptations are so hit or miss for me
@InsurgentYT3 90% of the time, they make me want to stop watching TV altogether. Such a lazy way of creating art imo.
"Hey, this worked in the 80s let's make it again but real!"
Great video! Just wondering but do you have any social media besides RUclips?
The first film is one of my all time favorite movies. The other two, I like them, but I don’t like how they dropped way too much worldbuilding and character development from the shows.
I think that it was necessary to drop the content from the shows since not everyone watched them and would feel lost if it was included. It's like what disney is doing right now with Marvel. You have to watch the shows to understand any of the movies, which feel like a massive waste of time on the audience's part. So for that reason im glad they did what they did with HTTYD
@@InsurgentYT3Yep, its the same mistake with the prequel trilogy.
If i get to choose the Clone Wars to exist over the prequels, id choose the Clone Wars unfortunately.
Because the Clone Wars basically told the necessary bits of the prequel era than the prequel movies did.
hiccup the decrishion of me
THW ending really sucks, but at least they ended it
i couldnt say it better my self my friend
I respect everyone who dislikes hidden world, but, I think that"s... it is just hard and sad reality of life... sorry... this is what happend to people, they found love and chose it over friendship most of the time, i know hdw is not that well made like others movies, but i think it is not that bad and it is just sad true.
I cant believe Toy story 4 won oscars over httyd 3 😢
2:13 SCOTLAND FOREVERRRR
I have a big problem with Volka. Why in the hell did she leave her family?
Fun fact the HTTYD films are based off a book under the same name
Except the books are nothing like the movies
@@InsurgentYT3exactly, but they still decided to copy-paste the ending (sort of), even if it doesn't make sence.
Rescue riders and the new one that takes place in the present was the worse…
except rescue riders took place in a different universe a not in the httyd universe
Why do reviewers have to shove Disney into our faces whenever they tribute DreamWorks?
underated vid
I disagree. The first two movies are more than great, but HTTYD 3 desintegrates Toothless, Hiccup, and the whole franchise. Toothless was stripped of his personality in HTTYD 3, and his relationship with the Light Fury is just so forced. The rest of the gang is used as mere comic relief, barely doing anything. Also, Hiccup, who was supposed to be this average-looking, small, thin guy, is just a gigachad now for no reason. The entire movie looks plastic-like. But the worst thing is that it does a complete 180 on the message of the first two films: peace between man and dragon. "We are the voice of peace, and bit by bit, we will change this world" This is what the previous movie ended on. But in HTTTYD 3, the villain literally wins. The Night Furies go extinct, and dragons and humans are separated. Hiccup abandons all his ideals because of a man much less a threat than Drago did some bad things and said some tough shit. This wouldve only encouraged the real Hiccup more, but this version just gives up. And another message this movie betrays is the message of friendship. HTTYD shows Hiccup and Toothless bonding and Toothless almost sacrificing himself for Hiccup. HTTYD 2 shows Toothless overcoming literal mind control to save his friend. But according to HTTYD 3, romantic relationships are better than and preferable to friendships and Hiccup and Toothless go their separate ways to pursue their love interests, if you can even call the Light Fury that.
If you wanna spread the message of having to let go, dont do it with a franchise whose main message was the power of friendship overcoming everything.
100%, not a lot of people understand it unfortunately
You mean how Andy similarly goes to college and leaves his toys to Bonnie? Sure, whatever you say.
Hiccup is not a figure who should force a vision of the world. Especially when it just involves placing all dragons he can rescue in one place.
@@memecliparchives2254 Comparing Hiccup and Toothless to Andy and Woody is insulting on a whole other level. To Andy, his toys were just mere inanimate objects and Woody wasnt his best friend in the whole world, his brother. These two things are beyond incomparable. Would you just leave your best friend to a little sibling?
And considering how easy it was to convince Berk to make peace with dragons, it wouldnt be much forcing as just more convincing. When warring with flying fire-breathing reptiles, what Average Joe wouldnt say "Yeah, Id rather stop fighting them than watch my village burn down every 2 days".
And Hiccup in the third film did force a vision on the world, namely that dragons and humans should never interact again. It was just much easier and in a way much more forceful than spreading peace.
@@zack4915So which is it? Should Andy let go or not since Woody and his childhood toys are inanimate objects, so could he have just thrown them in the basement or just in the thrash?
Lol, what? So youre saying dragons should end up being bargaining chips like nukes to force a vision of peace? Thats not peace whatsoever. People can just pretend to that and use dragons to their own personal benefit anyway.
And no, Hiccup at the end finally accepts the reality that dragons are not uwu creatures that should be forced to live on the same confined island. If Berk suddenly hated dragons and wanted to kill them, thats breaking character.
But there's no such thing, since all of Berk loves their dragons so much that it hurts them to let go and vice versa. But its a decision they have to do because it paints a target on their home in which it was almost destroyed twice by villains now.
@@memecliparchives2254 Yeah, Andy should let go, because his toys are inanimate objects that have mere sentimental and nostalgic value to him, they arent best buddies.
And no, dragons shouldnt and wouldnt be used as bargaining chips. Your vision of the relationship between Berkians and their dragons is skewed and so is your view of dragons themselves. Youre actually the one viewing them as "uwu creatures", incapable of their own decisions (which the third movie ignores, what with all dragons leaving their riders just like that). The relationship between Berkians and dragons is one of equals, as weve seen time and time again. And weve seen that enslaving dragons takes time, resources, skill, and commitment, and if the majority of society was friendly with dragons, such an enslaving operation wouldnt come to fruition.
And if youd watched RTTE youd know that Berk wasnt the only place dragons lived as weve seen them across the archipelago. Where do you think them Speed Stingers would be kept on Berk? This is just another major flaw of the third film.
Hiccup "letting go" of the dragons is breaking character. He was an optimist who had hope and saw a possibility for change in everyone, like his father, or like Drago. In the third film, he just gives up.
Berk is just objectively stronger with dragons, and bonded dragons are stronger than enslaved ones. If we took Dragos armada minus the dragons vs Berk, he would absolutely have wiped the floor with the Berkians, and we know that his goal was conquest and not eliminating dragons.
I'd argue that KFP rivals this
Yeah, both are pretty comparable, but in my opinion, httyd is slightly better. We'll see how good kfp 4 is though because that might change my opinion
@@InsurgentYT3 eh if kfp 4 sucks we can just pretend it doesn’t exist
@@LineOfThyIt doesn't sucked just mid movie, I wish the movie had a better execution
i would not say Perfect but its good only the first one was good.
I believe that both HTTYD and KFP trilogies are perfect in their own way. Very important childhood films
Yeah kung fu panda was also so good.
First two - yes, third - no
I would call it a perfect trilogy if The Hidden World wasn’t so bad
There are two types of HTTYD fans:
The ones who make these mature self exploration videos about growing up and facing difficulties
And: "I love dragons"
And unfortunately, the whole "Letting go" part was forced, unnatural and contradicted the ideas of first two films, which are bonding, following your ideals, changing the world for the better against all odds and coexistance in piece.
Instead of that, the third movie is about unfixable warring human nature, giving up your ideals and necessary segregation (themes that are not so bad in themselves but work very poorly in the context of this universe and these characters).
The same happens with the "letting go" theme - not only it's execution is unrealistic and illogical (can elaborate if needed, but it's less important anyway), but it also doesn't fit in the already established world and characters (which, among other things, leads to Toothless acting completely out of character in the third movie, and that's just scratching the surface).
And on top of that, i'd personally say that spreading such messages (like giving up and others) is a very bad and even dangerous idea (although this could have happened by accident due to the desire to force such an ending).
I wish that I could say something like - "hey, at least it was a proper conclusion of the story, and nobody will be able to make the Star Wars sequels of HTTYD". But now you have The Nine Realms, which is kind of a disaster. So they failed even there :(
I hate to admit it but…this isn’t a perfect trilogy…not even close cause of how bad the hidden world is…
Although I see where you’re coming from, I disagree that HTTYD is a good trilogy. The first one was great, yes, and the second one was fine too. But the third is not a good movie, and definitely not a fitting conclusion. I could go into more detail why I think so, but I don’t want this comment to become extremely long.
Race to the edge could arguably be a better third movie, and that really wasn't a good show imo
Nah, dont bother. Stop raining on the positivity of this video celebrating the trilogy. I already know whats gonna be that "argument"......
Your ludicrous and repulsive opinions dont belong here.
@@mutilatedpopsiclesI would say the second movie is the real third movie, Race To The Edge is a prequel to the second movie
almost perfect the last one was inconsistent and ableist and sexist and hiccup gave up after fighting someone less dangerous than the threats he faced before.
the third movie is an assassination of its characters and the series as a whole.
even the ending doesn't make sense if the dragons are hidden then how will the world know what to except what is hidden and now considering nonexistent?
it also made toothless a dumb goofball that abandoned hiccup for some lady dragon and he didn't even seem to care about hiccup in the third film.
How was The Hidden World Ableist and Sexist? While I can definitely understand your other issues with the film, those two seem kinda thrown in there
@@InsurgentYT3Dude, I advise not to engage these sentiments at all.
They are all typical Twitter posts.
Just don't, they are disgusting filth that should have never been treated with respect and ecency because they are incapable of giving it to others.
@@InsurgentYT3Dude, just ignore those people. They are Twitter posts personified.
@@griffysfnafchannel Dude you're a hTTYD 2 Fanboy, so i suggest you shut up and go play with your FNAF Fantasies
@@primevalyautja1305 excuse me?