It is ideal to use a mixture of H2SO4 and HNO3 for etching iron. I think the losses were caused by the etching of tin with hydrochloric acid. I would try cementation on zinc from HNO3 solution.
Sounds intresting! I still have the hcl with the tin and had some strange white crystals mixed with black powder in it. Its possible the balck powder is gold?
@@ogbullion pb tin and gold very but combination in first busty solution 100% no gold pb is higher than gold in periodic desk pb 82 au 79 the h2so4 will prisipitate pb some times like crystals with a second filtration will get of your way aa and a tip dont try recover pb not worth it good job and nice video! !
@@giorgosxyrichis3630 thank you ! Yes the black powder definitly not gold.And the fun part is, i dont know where I lost some gold. And no i don't want to recover Pb not even the Cu from my waste, only Au, Ag 😉
nice job, I wanted just to say that even with a hood doing this type of work inside (a kitchen or house) would ruin everything over time, the tile grout, electrical wires, the hood etc.
My process is, cook them in hcl, pins fall off, wash wash wash, cook pins in nitric to remove base metals, wash wash wash. Pins in aqua regia, it's sooo much cleaner of a process, good video
i like your manual vaccum bro..sulfamic acid can make trouble to precipitate gold i try tha many many times, keep your solutions and add zinc powder to get remaining gold in there
It is necessary to use the Chinese reagent JIN CHAN. It dissolves only gold and does not react with other metals. The refining process will be quick and easy. And there will be no losses.
Nicely done..Sonya think u might of had some iron in the mix from the pins.that could of been the rusty looking colour...I've a couple of kilos of similar type CPU..I was thinking of doing the Intel and the AMD Processors separately to get a yield data and just for fun..great video 👍👏👏👍
Yes, you are right. The pins are magnetic, now learndt the hard way, this pins not made from kovar material( kovar magnetic to) like the ceramic cpu's pins, with ceramic cpu's never had that problem. Thats a valuable lesson for me. And yes the separate cpu recovery prity good idea. Thanks for watching! 😉👍
Try a regular plastic funnel that fits into your rubber seal with a Charmin plug filter, just keep it at or below 10psi or it'll pull the Charmin plug out.
Use DILUTE nitric, a few ml of nitric to twice the volume of distilled water above the pins. When u start seeing iron fall out of solution, decant the majority of liquid and and fresh.
Nitric for the lil pins? So nitric and distilled water then decant and put fresh nitric in? Until all metal is gone? What about tin? Or Should I give em an hcl rinse first?
@@raymondreyes8046 If you first rinse with HCl, be sure to rinse with distilled water several times to eliminate all traces of HCl. Otherwise, adding HNO3 will start to dissolve gold.
It appeared to me that your solution, after the drop, was still pregnant. Did you test? I suggest you use more SMB, you cannot use too much. Also, add 50% (i.e. increase it by 1/3) of the volume with distilled water after adding the SMB.
You could have got up to 1.6 grams from that. Boiling gold plated part, gold powder or gold precipitate in hot hydrochloric acid is a big mistake as I learned. Even when making aqua regia, never bring hot hydrochloric acid in contact with gold. Prepare the aqua regia by mixing HCl with hno3 first, then add it when it turns golden or orange colour.
I was thinking about doing these pins in a sulphuric cell. But I feel that these tiny little pins will fall thru the copper basket. Any advice? Should I just do a nitric acid? I have a kilo of so of just the tiny pins. The ones I have are the smaller ones then the ones you're working with I'm video. Do you know which ones I mean?
No no no nitric! I made a huge mess with that ( rusty slurry impsossible to filter) and lost some gold. I think sulfuric cell less pain in the ass, or AP . Try to find finer copper mesh.
@@ogbullion very true hey OG are you available for like one-on-one advice on various things I might need throughout this process? Because I will be doing a sulfuric cell AP on one batch of things and then nitric acid on another batch of things some being used three processes and I'm a little rusty I haven't done it a couple years
Bad old fasion way. The best and fastest is.to remove mlcc from fiber cpus, after that put entier cpus in a plastic container, ad hcl let it do his work for 3 hours, remove hcl, rinse, ad Ar and sulfuric acid let it do the job, easy filrațion, drop the gold. No more slury filtrațion, and no gold lost.
Yes you need to denox the solution if you have excess nitric. If you have a lot of nitric acid left, and you put SMB in it the nitric redissolve the gold immediately.
@@GamesAndRandomFacts The best way (no excess chemicals) is to boil down the liquid, then add new HCL, and boil down again. Be careful to not let the level get too low, as if you do, the remaining liquid will “pop” and splash out of the beaker. Watch it carefully once less than 50 ml.
@@DieterSoegemeier the silicone chip on the surface.It's called surface mounted chip. The whole fiber CPU is like an integrated curcuit bord with nikkel-copper traces, so no need bondwiers to connect the silicone dye.
Smb is Sodium metabisulfite.......or sodium bisulfite.....from what I understand it's the same thing for this purpose.....I have ordered pails of sodium bisulfite from janitorial suppliers and it worked the same
Home Brew beer kits also supply SMB to use as a alternative way of sterilization of bottles and equipment in cold water without using high heat. Hate the smell of it.
A lot of acid waste and mistakes.. the best would be just sufuric acid and you are left with gold foils ready for the aqua regia. 200 ml... not liters. The real would be 1.2 + gms. Eventhough nivly done!
Yup that's me I spent more on the acids and buying the materials then the gold was worth I feel your pain excellent video thank you
I am so happy I found your channel
It is ideal to use a mixture of H2SO4 and HNO3 for etching iron. I think the losses were caused by the etching of tin with hydrochloric acid. I would try cementation on zinc from HNO3 solution.
Sounds intresting! I still have the hcl with the tin and had some strange white crystals mixed with black powder in it. Its possible the balck powder is gold?
@@ogbullion It is very likely. There will also be some gold in HNO3 (due to HCL residues).
@@BohumilGraman il try a stannous test on the hno3, and il try to dissolve the black powder to find out what it is. Thank you for the help! 😉👍
@@ogbullion pb tin and gold very but combination in first busty solution 100% no gold pb is higher than gold in periodic desk pb 82 au 79 the h2so4 will prisipitate pb some times like crystals with a second filtration will get of your way aa and a tip dont try recover pb not worth it good job and nice video! !
@@giorgosxyrichis3630 thank you ! Yes the black powder definitly not gold.And the fun part is, i dont know where I lost some gold. And no i don't want to recover Pb not even the Cu from my waste, only Au, Ag 😉
nice job, I wanted just to say that even with a hood doing this type of work inside (a kitchen or house) would ruin everything over time, the tile grout, electrical wires, the hood etc.
My process is, cook them in hcl, pins fall off, wash wash wash, cook pins in nitric to remove base metals, wash wash wash. Pins in aqua regia, it's sooo much cleaner of a process, good video
Very nice,you did good job.thanks for sharing
i like your manual vaccum bro..sulfamic acid can make trouble to precipitate gold i try tha many many times, keep your solutions and add zinc powder to get remaining gold in there
Definitly try that! Thanks for the advice! 😉👍
@@ogbullion and copper presipitait gold
It is necessary to use the Chinese reagent JIN CHAN. It dissolves only gold and does not react with other metals. The refining process will be quick and easy. And there will be no losses.
Nicely done..Sonya think u might of had some iron in the mix from the pins.that could of been the rusty looking colour...I've a couple of kilos of similar type CPU..I was thinking of doing the Intel and the AMD Processors separately to get a yield data and just for fun..great video 👍👏👏👍
Yes, you are right. The pins are magnetic, now learndt the hard way, this pins not made from kovar material( kovar magnetic to) like the ceramic cpu's pins, with ceramic cpu's never had that problem. Thats a valuable lesson for me. And yes the separate cpu recovery prity good idea. Thanks for watching! 😉👍
Try a regular plastic funnel that fits into your rubber seal with a Charmin plug filter, just keep it at or below 10psi or it'll pull the Charmin plug out.
Use DILUTE nitric, a few ml of nitric to twice the volume of distilled water above the pins. When u start seeing iron fall out of solution, decant the majority of liquid and and fresh.
Nitric for the lil pins? So nitric and distilled water then decant and put fresh nitric in? Until all metal is gone? What about tin? Or Should I give em an hcl rinse first?
@@raymondreyes8046
If you first rinse with HCl, be sure to rinse with distilled water several times to eliminate all traces of HCl. Otherwise, adding HNO3 will start to dissolve gold.
@@xenaguy01 or he could put them to a torch to heat away the HCl residue
@@davidlee1719
Sure, cuz then he could breathe in HCl fumes, which is always *_SO MUCH_* fun.
It appeared to me that your solution, after the drop, was still pregnant. Did you test? I suggest you use more SMB, you cannot use too much. Also, add 50% (i.e. increase it by 1/3) of the volume with distilled water after adding the SMB.
Hello, you have processed the pins, is there any more gold into the rest of the processor?
Hi! Only the pins have gold, no bondwires in this tipe of cpu.
You could have got up to 1.6 grams from that. Boiling gold plated part, gold powder or gold precipitate in hot hydrochloric acid is a big mistake as I learned. Even when making aqua regia, never bring hot hydrochloric acid in contact with gold. Prepare the aqua regia by mixing HCl with hno3 first, then add it when it turns golden or orange colour.
do you process the MLCC and resistors for gold ?
Should keep adding smb until it begins to create a white fizz on top
Very nice!
Have a Great Day!
I was thinking about doing these pins in a sulphuric cell. But I feel that these tiny little pins will fall thru the copper basket. Any advice? Should I just do a nitric acid? I have a kilo of so of just the tiny pins. The ones I have are the smaller ones then the ones you're working with I'm video. Do you know which ones I mean?
No no no nitric! I made a huge mess with that ( rusty slurry impsossible to filter) and lost some gold. I think sulfuric cell less pain in the ass, or AP . Try to find finer copper mesh.
Or test few gramms of pins with nitric wath happens.
@@ogbullion yeah maybe I'll do em in the sulphuric cell. On copper plate in basket? Idk. Wish me luck!
@@raymondreyes8046 or fold the mesh 1-2 times to get smaller mash size, but hey! If only few pins fall trough that not that bad.
@@ogbullion very true hey OG are you available for like one-on-one advice on various things I might need throughout this process? Because I will be doing a sulfuric cell AP on one batch of things and then nitric acid on another batch of things some being used three processes and I'm a little rusty I haven't done it a couple years
Bad old fasion way. The best and fastest is.to remove mlcc from fiber cpus, after that put entier cpus in a plastic container, ad hcl let it do his work for 3 hours, remove hcl, rinse, ad Ar and sulfuric acid let it do the job, easy filrațion, drop the gold. No more slury filtrațion, and no gold lost.
Very Nice ♻️👌
You should try getting rid of tin with very dilute cold nitric acid instead of HCl next time
What torch are you using for melting
Isn't the gold that comes out small?😮
Can I ask if I di need Urea for deoxidize the acqua regia solution or i just add SMB TO DEPOSIT THE GOLD?
Yes you need to denox the solution if you have excess nitric. If you have a lot of nitric acid left, and you put SMB in it the nitric redissolve the gold immediately.
@@ogbullion can I add just sodium carbonate to Denox the solution ( i don't have urea) and then I can add the SMB?
I dont know if it's works, I never tried . But you can boil of carefully the nitric .
@@GamesAndRandomFacts
The best way (no excess chemicals) is to boil down the liquid, then add new HCL, and boil down again. Be careful to not let the level get too low, as if you do, the remaining liquid will “pop” and splash out of the beaker. Watch it carefully once less than 50 ml.
interesting process.
What about the 24 carrot gold contact wires insibe the CPU, all you did was the gold plated pins.
There is no gold bondwires in this type of CPU.
@@ogbullion Then how is the CPU conected to the pins, There must be wires of some sort and That would have to be gold. How else do they do it.
@@DieterSoegemeier the silicone chip on the surface.It's called surface mounted chip. The whole fiber CPU is like an integrated curcuit bord with nikkel-copper traces, so no need bondwiers to connect the silicone dye.
@@ogbullion Thank you. I understand.
Is there any gold inside the fiber
No gold in the fiber unfortunately.
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This original gold 24 carret
486 CPU 1키로에서 금이 이만큼 나온거에요
how long did u heat the HCL?
30-45 minutes.
Merhaba SBM nedir?
sodyum metabisülfit
@@ogbullion teşekkür ederim sağol allah razı olsun.
what is SMB ?
Sodium metabisulfit.
Smb is Sodium metabisulfite.......or sodium bisulfite.....from what I understand it's the same thing for this purpose.....I have ordered pails of sodium bisulfite from janitorial suppliers and it worked the same
@@jasonluvzfatgirlz709 yes. And potassium metabisulfit works too.
@@ogbullion Awesome......that's good to know! Thanks!
Home Brew beer kits also supply SMB to use as a alternative way of sterilization of bottles and equipment in cold water without using high heat. Hate the smell of it.
Kok gur oleh sitik tenan....?
Sapa sing ngece karo sampeyan? Lan amarga?
Lho.. Iso boso jowo😁😁 yo ora ngece.... Kok cuma dapat sedikit.. Maksut saya gitu....😁😁😁
@@junz57 Saya seharusnya tidak bekerja dengan metode ini, tetapi saya tidak tahu persis apa yang salah.
A lot of acid waste and mistakes.. the best would be just sufuric acid and you are left with gold foils ready for the aqua regia. 200 ml... not liters. The real would be 1.2 + gms. Eventhough nivly done!
Yep I know... concentrated sulfuric not available anymore in my country for common people. Thanks for watching!👍