Thanks for this review. I ended up buying this drone and have been flying it for over a month now. There are a few idiosyncrasies with the drone. For example you'll need an adapter to reach the USBC port on the flight controller. Other than a few gripes, I am in love with this drone. It flies well, and it crashes well. It is very sturdy. This is my first drone so I can not compare it with others i have owned. I think I'll buy another one at some point. I have configured this drone to be under 250g with battery/filters/nakedgopro. Wish it had a bit more flight time, but all in all I think this is a great deal and a great performing drone.
Watching yourself and le_ti_lik originally with the xi35 pro is what sold me on them. I've since become a HUGE fan of oddityRC. My xi25 and xi35 pro builds still shock me as to what they're capable of. I look forward to your taking the 25 out, because to me, having the 25, i don't see much of a point with a 20 that probably doesn't weigh much less.
I wish I could remember the weight, maybe I have weighed the xi25 pro yet, but that could be a determining factor. That and just having more thrust for performance or to carry an external HD camera effectively.
I've finished building one last week. I used the xi20 not pro version for the vista. The top of the camera touches the top plate. One cannot flatten the camera... Good that was cut out and replaced by tpu. Easier to adjust to any camera!
The analog version uses nano camera and if you want to go 0 tilt you have to slightly melt the plastic bellow the camera and then you can do 0 tilt. Believe it or not it was originally designed for micro racing, not cine stuff. 🤣 If you want to fit a bigger camera, then you get the o3 version of the frame and I've got a custom print that I'll upload soon that will fit a 19x19 camera (designed for the polar).
I transplanted my flywoo cinerace O3 into the XI20 pro frame recently and I've been delighted by what a joy it is to fly! Needed a wee 3D printed shim to put the props at the right height in the ducts (the cinerace motors are shorter), and I'm loving seeing reviews of the native version! Definitely buying an all up one if I ever have to replace after this.
Had mine since they first came out in China, but mine's very different. 1105 6000kv with 5 blades, JHEMCU 16mm 2-4s 13a AIO, Walksnail 1s VTX, 94g dry. Flies incredibly well. I also have the OddityRC 5" toothpick which is sub 250g with a 1000mah 4s, and the J5 Ultralight 5". Can attest, quality is absolutely top notch. The low weight of my Xi20 means I can carry a Peanut or Thumb Pro and still come in under the weight of this factory o3 version.
I switched my GepRC rocket to this Oddity 2inch frame when it came out, didn't need to change PID or anything, and it flies GREAT! So I then switched GepRC cinelog35 to Oddity 35 frame, LOVED it!!
That flight controller looks like a great value. Thanks for pointing it out. Just grabbed a couple with your discount. $135 for 2 F7s 40A is hard to beat nowadays.
It seems like everything coming out now is an overweight, overpriced cenewhoop style kwad. I really miss the days when the trend was to make it as light and agile as possible and hope we get there again because it feels like we’ve gone backwards in a lot of ways.
Some of the weight issue is the advent of our HD video systems and it got worse with the O3. There has been a surprising abundance of cinewhoop iterations the last two years. I have been asking companies to revisit the 2.5inch without prop protection category. That is one category that has been very bare the last 2+ years.
Nice rip in the backyard! A lot of these coming out lately, nice to see a beefier 4s one. That AIO looks hot AND has some nice specs. I think you just sold a ton of them lol (If I could I'd be helping ^_^). Love the T-Shirt. Going to have to look into the AIO for sure, from the flight video looks like it handled your thrashing about, those flips over the bushes! Thanks for taking us along for the ride! Cheers
Awesome flying and review, Nick! 😃 Pretty nice little quad! And I really liked the FC as well! Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊 And happy new year!
I essentially already have this quad haha I have a 2.5inch foxeer foxwhoop frame with 1404 motors and 4s battery with a caddx vista...it's a fun little ripper for the yard
Blown away by this quad. Tried a 2"er in the past (z20), and was very underwhelmed -- bad flight times, handled poorly in the wind, underpowered if you wanted to fly aggressively, etc. Gave the xi20 a try just because I had heard good things about it, and wow was I pleasantly surprised. Acros better than any ducted quad I've had, good flight times (~7 minutes an on 850) and seems to handle the wind reasonably well for such a small quad. Of all the cinewhoops that I've tried, this one feels like it flies the least like a ducted whoop.
@@NickBurnsFPV thanks Nick! I missed that section of their page but I was hoping for the entire frame kit with aio, fc, motors or BNF (if I stated that correctly). I'm looking at the BetaFPV25 v2 to purchase but putting it on hold while I wait for your review of the OddityRC XI25pro.
We do have heaters in the ceiling of the cook area, I just don't sit over there to fly for review purposes....I try to be consistent so from video to video there are as few variables as possible.
would this be a good choice for indoor real estate when there are tight spaces and small rooms while using a naked gopro ? Would it be beneficial as an addition to the XI25 which would be used for more open indoor flying ? I would use naked vista, 4S and a naked gopro (the analog/vista option of the XI20 has a gopro mount)
I think if your shooting professionally or wanting to a larger propped quad like the XI25 will be better suited. More stability, more flight time and able to carry the external hd camera more effectively. This could do it, but as previous a somewhat larger propped quad will make a big difference. This also doesn't have a canopy we can easily attach an external hd camera to, so we have to DIY that portion.
I think the durability and reliability of the XI20 will be superior to any betafpv product. I have no reports of oddityrc product failures, but do have reports of failures with betafpv products. Could be a number issue with more product sold by betafpv, but I lean as previously stated.
I don't care if the ducts break (they all eventually do unless they are large/heavy, which I don't want either) ... what is a "yes, that's the frame I want", is the ability to change out a broken duct without dismantling the quad/removing motors...etc. This frame is exactly that, if you crack the ducting (which almost always results in unwanted vibration or jello), you simply change out the plastic part without removing motor screws, etc. We humbly await the 2.5" review (hopefully under 250 G) and a direct comparison.
Exactly! That said, I have been flying and crashing both xi20 and xi25 and I've managed to break an xi25 carbon plate (arm) but never the duct. 😅 The thing is near indestructible.
Great review Nick! I was pretty blown away by the 1205 motor performance as my old xi20 had 1303.5 motors and the difference is nutts. In regards to the prop guards being visible in flight. If you're filming with the o3 cam, once you do lense correction (in gyroflow) for it the ducts go away. :D
Awesome review and flying!! I have the 6s Xi25 Vista version. Great little flying quad. Noise is a concern and factors in when purchasing. Xi25 is my least annoying cinewhoop in sound levels for its size. The AIO is very similar looking to the Axis Flying Argus AIO. Also same layout as HAKRC F722 AIO that came in my Xi25 and I have used that AIO in a few builds. Wonder if HAKRC is the OEM for those 2 AIO's. Can't wait for your review.
Correction I checked BF and the target is OddityF7 on my Xi25. Same layout as the red HAKRC AIO but black. Oddity and Axis Flying sell HAKRC gear at their stores. Ya probably only a few main OEM's. @@NickBurnsFPV
Hi Nick , Yep I like the OddityRC X-120. Of course I will get the analog version. Really a sweet little quad. Those 1205 5500kv are a great size to fly with. The flight controller looks interesting. I'm waiting for the XI25 6s review. After looking at both of them I might have to order both of them. Thanks again for the video and information about this quad.
Hi Mr. Burns, first off id like to thank you for your content! Still relatively new to fpv. I have some 5 inch quads. But I have a question. Would you recommend this oddityrc quad over the fly woo lens you just reviewed? Looking at these two for something to do some like freestyle around the yard. Not have to go find a spot with my bigger quads. Thanks in advance!
I think there are two qualifiers. One is the batteries you already have. I think it wise to buy quads based on the batteries we have that we can use on hand. The next one is how comfortable have you gotten with fpv. More weight and speed can be a recipe for big crashes and damage to property, the quad, and the wallet. I think it also wise to stay light to decrease our overall damage in our crashes.
Thanks Nick, great review as always ... I already ordered my OddityRC Xi20 :) .... I ordered it with the gps and the led strip installed .... do you think that's going to affect the flying characteristics a lot? thanks
Boy that is a tough choice, keep in mind I only have far less flights on the XI25 and only a handful of those flights are faster flight. I suspect most would want the XI25 as the flight time will be longer and the top end performance will also be "bigger". But I like the size of 2 inchers that fly well, its a strong bias I have
Fun freestyle without a gopro definitely the xi20 for the size. Flight performance is pretty similar to the xi25 (only place you notice a difference is full throttle punchouts).
Hey there Nick! Another great review! I'm kinda kicking myself that i jumped on the 2s DarkStar 20. It has its puposes,but these other 2 inch 4s options really look fun with that extra power and longer flight times. Any opinions on that? Hope you and your family have a great safe happy new year. Looking forward to see what 2024 has in store for us in FPV!!😎
The darkstar is fine for its design, flat sort of flying it doesn't have the "freestyle" capabilities of some of the others in the category like the flylens85 and this xi20. I wish I had better opinions to pass on but that pretty much sums it up.
@@NickBurnsFPV well I ordered the xi20 pro!! I ordered from your link. Using your discount was substantially more than the normal discount on their site! Thank you! Happy New Year. I won't house long it's going to be for DJI to release their o4 system for our drones. It looks like it will be compatible with the Googles 2 and Integras. Since you can fly the mini 4pro with those goggles! Any thoughts there Nick?
@@pianomans1 Not really. While I have heard there is an O4 coming, i am not sure what more it could bring while maintaining latency we can handle in fpv.
I really can't say these were nearly a year ago, really if it were last week I wouldn't be able to remember and make a choice. Really need to watch both videos and compare for yourself.
Well I just ordered myself a late Christmas present lolol thanks Nick. When it shows up in the mail and I'm sitting at the computer setting it up, my fiance will say what's that. I could either say I am working on the setup of one of my quads or I could be honest and say Nick made me buy this quad lol what's the better choice? I'm going with the Nick thing lol😅😂 happy new year! On another note they had free shipping 5 to 12 days then they had standard shipping $6 extra 5 to 12 days. Nothing there about expedited shipping with DHL. Anyways I paid the six bucks and hopefully it makes a difference. Hopefully it's not on the slow boat from China. Then I might see it in March haha
Is the footage from the google view. I ask because I just got the googles 2 and I noticed blurry edges and only center is focused. I heard this being an issue with these googles. Did you have this issue ?
This is the goggle view with the goggles2, to my knowledge only the goggles 2 dvr can provide the betaflight osd information in the recording as I often show it. I don't have issues with blurry edges. Often with goggles and even in the current iterations the adjustments we have for IPD and focus aren't enough for some. I suspect in those cases special Rx diopters would be needed to my the entire goggle image clear for the user.
Can definitely use it for indoor cine stuff. :) Check my channel for the "micro drone vs" videos, they are mostly the xi20 flying at various events. :D
I've built one with 1304 motors and a naked vista. On 3s it is really underpowered... throttle at 50% all the time. Good for horizon-mode slow flights, but that's it.
Great review, Nick. Have you, by any chance, flown this with lions? If so, how does it handle the weight of an 18650 pack or, better yet, a 21700 pack? I know flying with lions isn't really your cup of tea but, hey, it never hurts to take a shot.
I have not flown it with li ions. The weight of those batteries is going to be problematic on a small propped quad. I generally wouldn't recommend or try an li ion on a quad with props 3inch or smaller.
@@NickBurnsFPV Thanks for the reply, Nick. What about flying it on 2s? Is it a simple matter of changing the motors, or is it more complicated than that?
@@MrPhilbautista flying it on less cells really isn't viable in any capacity. The motors would need to be changed to a higher kv, even with that, flight will be shorter and much more mild on 3s and even worse on 2s. In its stock form with less cell battery the dji O3 will likely black out with much if any of heavy throttle use. This is due to the voltage requirements of the DJI O3. I have experienced this first hand on a 6s quad I mistakenly used a 4s battery on.
@@NickBurnsFPV Thanks, but aren't there 2" quads like the Flywoo Flylens 75 that use the DJI O3 and run on 2s? BTW I appreciate the lessons and just trying to figure out what the possibilities are.
The fpv gear is now at a level where it's prob best to just build your own quad so you can get one exactly how you want it spec'd out. Get the frame and motors you want, the fc you want, and build your " perfect quad". Parts are so good now that there's no reason to settle fpr bind and fly's that aren't exactly what you're looking for. I'm at a point where I only buy BNF quads because it's cheaper than buying parts individually. I'll buy 3 BNF quads and then pull the parts I want to build one and use the rest for spare parts after crashes etc. It's cheaper than buying oarts as you need them and encourages you to build random franken-quads on a whim haha
I suspect we have a substantial group that are less experienced that prefer the bnf route as I get so many questions about motor and prop choices. I think this group is a few $K from having the experience you have built.
@@NickBurnsFPV you're absolutely right....I almost forget that it's already been a few years since I started and I sometimes forget what it's like to be new to the hobby. Thanks for reminding me to check myself and my blurted opinion. Man, I remember watching your vids before I even got my forst quad and having no idea where to start or what to get or expect...time really flies in this hobby! Cheers to what you do for all the new guys and also for us guys that are now longer into the hobby as well. Your vids definitely land with everyone of us and I need to remember that I'm definitely not the last guy to start the hobby no matter how late I felt I started haha. Cheers, Nick! Thanks for the review and I apologize if my original comment came off as negative
@@brianfreland9065 I have the good fortune of exchanging messages with so many, it greatly helps me keep all the different "levels" of this hobby fresh in my mind. No worries. I certainly didn't take your comment as negative.
Everything coming out now is small with a 5-inch price. Companies don't want to deal with RID and their sales are lessening so they're creating smaller sizes with a 5-inch price. DIY drones are the way to go in this hobby.
Honestly, I always self-build, and there's basically no difference in price between micros and 5", unless you're talking about tinywhoops or something.
That's because of the cost of the o3. With discount code this is a $350 quad. The vtx alone costs $230. You would struggle to build this, with an o3, for less than $350 imo. (Obviously if you don't want an o3 then this isn't the whoop for you )
Personally speaking, I'm not custom building wacky Frankenstein quads because I like the work or process, I'm just disappointed with the thrust output and correlating price with all the non tiny whoop quads. Don't like getting stuck with vanilla power for a few more seconds in efficiency. Hence why im watching this after building my own (with bigger motors)
Everyone just keep giving DJI all your business and see what happens. Gosh, damn - everyone's so short-sighted. I suppose that explains the broader quagmire we're in....
Thanks for this review. I ended up buying this drone and have been flying it for over a month now. There are a few idiosyncrasies with the drone. For example you'll need an adapter to reach the USBC port on the flight controller. Other than a few gripes, I am in love with this drone. It flies well, and it crashes well. It is very sturdy. This is my first drone so I can not compare it with others i have owned. I think I'll buy another one at some point. I have configured this drone to be under 250g with battery/filters/nakedgopro. Wish it had a bit more flight time, but all in all I think this is a great deal and a great performing drone.
Watching yourself and le_ti_lik originally with the xi35 pro is what sold me on them. I've since become a HUGE fan of oddityRC. My xi25 and xi35 pro builds still shock me as to what they're capable of. I look forward to your taking the 25 out, because to me, having the 25, i don't see much of a point with a 20 that probably doesn't weigh much less.
I wish I could remember the weight, maybe I have weighed the xi25 pro yet, but that could be a determining factor. That and just having more thrust for performance or to carry an external HD camera effectively.
@@NickBurnsFPV my xi25 pro build is 177g dry, though i have a half-naked vista in mine.
I've finished building one last week. I used the xi20 not pro version for the vista. The top of the camera touches the top plate. One cannot flatten the camera...
Good that was cut out and replaced by tpu. Easier to adjust to any camera!
The analog version uses nano camera and if you want to go 0 tilt you have to slightly melt the plastic bellow the camera and then you can do 0 tilt. Believe it or not it was originally designed for micro racing, not cine stuff. 🤣
If you want to fit a bigger camera, then you get the o3 version of the frame and I've got a custom print that I'll upload soon that will fit a 19x19 camera (designed for the polar).
Nice, new 2inch! I will watch this on my break in work !
I transplanted my flywoo cinerace O3 into the XI20 pro frame recently and I've been delighted by what a joy it is to fly! Needed a wee 3D printed shim to put the props at the right height in the ducts (the cinerace motors are shorter), and I'm loving seeing reviews of the native version! Definitely buying an all up one if I ever have to replace after this.
Had mine since they first came out in China, but mine's very different. 1105 6000kv with 5 blades, JHEMCU 16mm 2-4s 13a AIO, Walksnail 1s VTX, 94g dry. Flies incredibly well. I also have the OddityRC 5" toothpick which is sub 250g with a 1000mah 4s, and the J5 Ultralight 5". Can attest, quality is absolutely top notch. The low weight of my Xi20 means I can carry a Peanut or Thumb Pro and still come in under the weight of this factory o3 version.
I switched my GepRC rocket to this Oddity 2inch frame when it came out, didn't need to change PID or anything, and it flies GREAT! So I then switched GepRC cinelog35 to Oddity 35 frame, LOVED it!!
funny how the same components can fly better on one frame than another isn't it.
That flight controller looks like a great value. Thanks for pointing it out. Just grabbed a couple with your discount. $135 for 2 F7s 40A is hard to beat nowadays.
Great video, I think I prefer the look of this than my defender 25, interested in the 2.5 review when it drops, maybe a contender to frame swap.
You've become a every video watch for me. Great stuff Nick.
Wow, thank you so much!
It seems like everything coming out now is an overweight, overpriced cenewhoop style kwad. I really miss the days when the trend was to make it as light and agile as possible and hope we get there again because it feels like we’ve gone backwards in a lot of ways.
So true✌🏽
Some of the weight issue is the advent of our HD video systems and it got worse with the O3. There has been a surprising abundance of cinewhoop iterations the last two years. I have been asking companies to revisit the 2.5inch without prop protection category. That is one category that has been very bare the last 2+ years.
Amen!
So very true. Until DJI comes out with something smaller and lighter we are all leaning toward Cadxx with their small vtx
Agreed, I have zero interest in these cinewhoops.
Bought that, Flies really good for small parks and around the neighborhood thank you for the suggestion
Great, had is while? everything going well with it?
Nice rip in the backyard! A lot of these coming out lately, nice to see a beefier 4s one. That AIO looks hot AND has some nice specs. I think you just sold a ton of them lol (If I could I'd be helping ^_^). Love the T-Shirt. Going to have to look into the AIO for sure, from the flight video looks like it handled your thrashing about, those flips over the bushes! Thanks for taking us along for the ride! Cheers
Awesome flying and review, Nick! 😃
Pretty nice little quad! And I really liked the FC as well!
Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
And happy new year!
I essentially already have this quad haha I have a 2.5inch foxeer foxwhoop frame with 1404 motors and 4s battery with a caddx vista...it's a fun little ripper for the yard
Just ordered with your link - Thanks for another solid purchase I'm sure
Blown away by this quad. Tried a 2"er in the past (z20), and was very underwhelmed -- bad flight times, handled poorly in the wind, underpowered if you wanted to fly aggressively, etc. Gave the xi20 a try just because I had heard good things about it, and wow was I pleasantly surprised. Acros better than any ducted quad I've had, good flight times (~7 minutes an on 850) and seems to handle the wind reasonably well for such a small quad. Of all the cinewhoops that I've tried, this one feels like it flies the least like a ducted whoop.
Yes, this can be said about all OddityRC cinewhoops I have tried. They don't fly like a cinewhoop forsure.
Great review Nick! I'm liking the OddityRC line up but I wish they also offer frame kit only version, that would be awesome!
OddityRC frames are right here oddityrc.com/collections/frames
@@NickBurnsFPV thanks Nick! I missed that section of their page but I was hoping for the entire frame kit with aio, fc, motors or BNF (if I stated that correctly).
I'm looking at the BetaFPV25 v2 to purchase but putting it on hold while I wait for your review of the OddityRC XI25pro.
@@VinchysVisuals ah I see, just without the camera/vtx
@@NickBurnsFPV that is correct. Appreciate your response. Waiting for your review of rthe OddityRC IX25 Pro! :) Happy New Year!
looks like the current readings are off?
Hey Nick get yourself a few of the propane heater they put on the side walk at restaurants, maybe fly more😊 just a thought…
We do have heaters in the ceiling of the cook area, I just don't sit over there to fly for review purposes....I try to be consistent so from video to video there are as few variables as possible.
@@NickBurnsFPV yes i saw the heater in a video right after i sent the email
would this be a good choice for indoor real estate when there are tight spaces and small rooms while using a naked gopro ? Would it be beneficial as an addition to the XI25 which would be used for more open indoor flying ? I would use naked vista, 4S and a naked gopro (the analog/vista option of the XI20 has a gopro mount)
I think if your shooting professionally or wanting to a larger propped quad like the XI25 will be better suited. More stability, more flight time and able to carry the external hd camera more effectively. This could do it, but as previous a somewhat larger propped quad will make a big difference. This also doesn't have a canopy we can easily attach an external hd camera to, so we have to DIY that portion.
opinions on this vs the Pavo 20?
I think the durability and reliability of the XI20 will be superior to any betafpv product. I have no reports of oddityrc product failures, but do have reports of failures with betafpv products. Could be a number issue with more product sold by betafpv, but I lean as previously stated.
I don't care if the ducts break (they all eventually do unless they are large/heavy, which I don't want either) ... what is a "yes, that's the frame I want", is the ability to change out a broken duct without dismantling the quad/removing motors...etc. This frame is exactly that, if you crack the ducting (which almost always results in unwanted vibration or jello), you simply change out the plastic part without removing motor screws, etc.
We humbly await the 2.5" review (hopefully under 250 G) and a direct comparison.
Exactly! That said, I have been flying and crashing both xi20 and xi25 and I've managed to break an xi25 carbon plate (arm) but never the duct. 😅 The thing is near indestructible.
Great review Nick! I was pretty blown away by the 1205 motor performance as my old xi20 had 1303.5 motors and the difference is nutts.
In regards to the prop guards being visible in flight. If you're filming with the o3 cam, once you do lense correction (in gyroflow) for it the ducts go away. :D
Ah, gyroflow is something I barely tinker with much. Good info appreciate that.
Awesome review and flying!! I have the 6s Xi25 Vista version. Great little flying quad. Noise is a concern and factors in when purchasing. Xi25 is my least annoying cinewhoop in sound levels for its size. The AIO is very similar looking to the Axis Flying Argus AIO. Also same layout as HAKRC F722 AIO that came in my Xi25 and I have used that AIO in a few builds. Wonder if HAKRC is the OEM for those 2 AIO's. Can't wait for your review.
the OEM could very well be HAKRC I suspect there are far fewer companies making all our fpv components than we suspect.
Correction I checked BF and the target is OddityF7 on my Xi25. Same layout as the red HAKRC AIO but black. Oddity and Axis Flying sell HAKRC gear at their stores. Ya probably only a few main OEM's. @@NickBurnsFPV
Hi Nick , Yep I like the OddityRC X-120. Of course I will get the analog version. Really a sweet little quad. Those 1205 5500kv are a great size to fly with. The flight controller looks interesting. I'm waiting for the XI25 6s review. After looking at both of them I might have to order both of them. Thanks again for the video and information about this quad.
The XI25 I have is 4s.
That is a nice-looking AIO!
Awesome video. Thanks Nick
Badass cenewhoop,excellent review.
Hi Mr. Burns, first off id like to thank you for your content! Still relatively new to fpv. I have some 5 inch quads. But I have a question. Would you recommend this oddityrc quad over the fly woo lens you just reviewed? Looking at these two for something to do some like freestyle around the yard. Not have to go find a spot with my bigger quads. Thanks in advance!
I think there are two qualifiers. One is the batteries you already have. I think it wise to buy quads based on the batteries we have that we can use on hand. The next one is how comfortable have you gotten with fpv. More weight and speed can be a recipe for big crashes and damage to property, the quad, and the wallet. I think it also wise to stay light to decrease our overall damage in our crashes.
That FC looks like the skystars jupiter or uranus AIO.
Hard to say, I have also had comments linking the FC to HAKRC.
Do a vid on the tron80😢
Cool Quad, nice job Nick 🙂my fave pilot
flattery doesnt put you at the top of the give away list. Unless maybe it does, in that case, Nick is the coolest guy in FPV.
lol. science randomly determine giveaway winners :)
Thanks Nick, great review as always ... I already ordered my OddityRC Xi20 :) .... I ordered it with the gps and the led strip installed .... do you think that's going to affect the flying characteristics a lot? thanks
No not alot. If I had to put a number on it, I would estimate 1.5% change. :)
For just a fun freestyle drone with no need for an extra camera would you go with the xi20 or xi25
Boy that is a tough choice, keep in mind I only have far less flights on the XI25 and only a handful of those flights are faster flight. I suspect most would want the XI25 as the flight time will be longer and the top end performance will also be "bigger". But I like the size of 2 inchers that fly well, its a strong bias I have
Fun freestyle without a gopro definitely the xi20 for the size. Flight performance is pretty similar to the xi25 (only place you notice a difference is full throttle punchouts).
Hey there Nick! Another great review! I'm kinda kicking myself that i jumped on the 2s DarkStar 20. It has its puposes,but these other 2 inch 4s options really look fun with that extra power and longer flight times. Any opinions on that? Hope you and your family have a great safe happy new year. Looking forward to see what 2024 has in store for us in FPV!!😎
The darkstar is fine for its design, flat sort of flying it doesn't have the "freestyle" capabilities of some of the others in the category like the flylens85 and this xi20. I wish I had better opinions to pass on but that pretty much sums it up.
@@NickBurnsFPV well I ordered the xi20 pro!! I ordered from your link. Using your discount was substantially more than the normal discount on their site! Thank you! Happy New Year. I won't house long it's going to be for DJI to release their o4 system for our drones. It looks like it will be compatible with the Googles 2 and Integras. Since you can fly the mini 4pro with those goggles! Any thoughts there Nick?
@@pianomans1 Not really. While I have heard there is an O4 coming, i am not sure what more it could bring while maintaining latency we can handle in fpv.
thanks for the review ! May I ask which one is the most silent between xi20 and xi25 ?
I really can't say these were nearly a year ago, really if it were last week I wouldn't be able to remember and make a choice. Really need to watch both videos and compare for yourself.
Well I just ordered myself a late Christmas present lolol thanks Nick. When it shows up in the mail and I'm sitting at the computer setting it up, my fiance will say what's that. I could either say I am working on the setup of one of my quads or I could be honest and say Nick made me buy this quad lol what's the better choice? I'm going with the Nick thing lol😅😂 happy new year!
On another note they had free shipping 5 to 12 days then they had standard shipping $6 extra 5 to 12 days. Nothing there about expedited shipping with DHL. Anyways I paid the six bucks and hopefully it makes a difference. Hopefully it's not on the slow boat from China. Then I might see it in March haha
Always blame someone else, if that doesn’t work go with “I won it” 🤪
John goblin is my hero
I don't understand this reference?
He’s a really great person who suggested I watch your content,,, calls you the burner ,,, like in a really cool sounding way
Is the footage from the google view. I ask because I just got the googles 2 and I noticed blurry edges and only center is focused. I heard this being an issue with these googles.
Did you have this issue ?
This is the goggle view with the goggles2, to my knowledge only the goggles 2 dvr can provide the betaflight osd information in the recording as I often show it. I don't have issues with blurry edges. Often with goggles and even in the current iterations the adjustments we have for IPD and focus aren't enough for some. I suspect in those cases special Rx diopters would be needed to my the entire goggle image clear for the user.
Any plans for a Mage Pro review?
Not at this time.
I built a 4s pavo20 pro with caddx vista unit and ,1204 motors all together with battery weighs 170g.. do you think that's a good weight?
seems like a good weight.
Thanks for the vid I’m buying one now :)
Are heavier clunkier cinewhoops selling that much? That they keep coming out? 🤔
they must be. The last two years has been full of cinewhoops, v1 and v2 only a few months apart.
Think running it on 3s would tame it a lil for indoor cine stuff?
yes, but we likely would also want to increase the master slider on the pids.
Can definitely use it for indoor cine stuff. :) Check my channel for the "micro drone vs" videos, they are mostly the xi20 flying at various events. :D
I've built one with 1304 motors and a naked vista. On 3s it is really underpowered... throttle at 50% all the time. Good for horizon-mode slow flights, but that's it.
Great review, Nick. Have you, by any chance, flown this with lions? If so, how does it handle the weight of an 18650 pack or, better yet, a 21700 pack? I know flying with lions isn't really your cup of tea but, hey, it never hurts to take a shot.
I have not flown it with li ions. The weight of those batteries is going to be problematic on a small propped quad. I generally wouldn't recommend or try an li ion on a quad with props 3inch or smaller.
@@NickBurnsFPV Thanks for the reply, Nick. What about flying it on 2s? Is it a simple matter of changing the motors, or is it more complicated than that?
@@MrPhilbautista flying it on less cells really isn't viable in any capacity. The motors would need to be changed to a higher kv, even with that, flight will be shorter and much more mild on 3s and even worse on 2s. In its stock form with less cell battery the dji O3 will likely black out with much if any of heavy throttle use. This is due to the voltage requirements of the DJI O3. I have experienced this first hand on a 6s quad I mistakenly used a 4s battery on.
@@NickBurnsFPV Thanks, but aren't there 2" quads like the Flywoo Flylens 75 that use the DJI O3 and run on 2s? BTW I appreciate the lessons and just trying to figure out what the possibilities are.
@@MrPhilbautista certainly there are 2s 2inch O3 quads.They are all much much lighter and the motors smaller requiring less power.
I build mine 2” oddity
Can the 2" hold a naked GoPro?
Yes, but there is no mount for an external hd camera to mount to
What's your fav 3.5in drone/fame?
I don’t know that I have a favorite in that category.
Ordered with your code, i think it looks great.
Oh nice. Would this be your first quad or first 2incher?
I've got a few😂
The fpv gear is now at a level where it's prob best to just build your own quad so you can get one exactly how you want it spec'd out. Get the frame and motors you want, the fc you want, and build your " perfect quad". Parts are so good now that there's no reason to settle fpr bind and fly's that aren't exactly what you're looking for. I'm at a point where I only buy BNF quads because it's cheaper than buying parts individually. I'll buy 3 BNF quads and then pull the parts I want to build one and use the rest for spare parts after crashes etc. It's cheaper than buying oarts as you need them and encourages you to build random franken-quads on a whim haha
I suspect we have a substantial group that are less experienced that prefer the bnf route as I get so many questions about motor and prop choices. I think this group is a few $K from having the experience you have built.
@@NickBurnsFPV you're absolutely right....I almost forget that it's already been a few years since I started and I sometimes forget what it's like to be new to the hobby. Thanks for reminding me to check myself and my blurted opinion. Man, I remember watching your vids before I even got my forst quad and having no idea where to start or what to get or expect...time really flies in this hobby! Cheers to what you do for all the new guys and also for us guys that are now longer into the hobby as well. Your vids definitely land with everyone of us and I need to remember that I'm definitely not the last guy to start the hobby no matter how late I felt I started haha. Cheers, Nick! Thanks for the review and I apologize if my original comment came off as negative
@@brianfreland9065 I have the good fortune of exchanging messages with so many, it greatly helps me keep all the different "levels" of this hobby fresh in my mind. No worries. I certainly didn't take your comment as negative.
Everything coming out now is small with a 5-inch price. Companies don't want to deal with RID and their sales are lessening so they're creating smaller sizes with a 5-inch price. DIY drones are the way to go in this hobby.
Honestly, I always self-build, and there's basically no difference in price between micros and 5", unless you're talking about tinywhoops or something.
That's because of the cost of the o3. With discount code this is a $350 quad. The vtx alone costs $230. You would struggle to build this, with an o3, for less than $350 imo. (Obviously if you don't want an o3 then this isn't the whoop for you )
The fc looks nice
Great video,
Personally speaking, I'm not custom building wacky Frankenstein quads because I like the work or process, I'm just disappointed with the thrust output and correlating price with all the non tiny whoop quads. Don't like getting stuck with vanilla power for a few more seconds in efficiency. Hence why im watching this after building my own (with bigger motors)
1205 wow 😂
It is a biggie for a 2inch prop. But when it works well in a specific configuration, hard to argue
@@NickBurnsFPV more is more. 💪🏽
First!!
fpvかあ^_^
First 😁😋
Everyone just keep giving DJI all your business and see what happens. Gosh, damn - everyone's so short-sighted. I suppose that explains the broader quagmire we're in....