This is a well made tool , not to be compared to fashion watches . I use my Sinn’s for their intended purpose and they have lasted decades without fail . I have had water leaks on Breitlings and Seiko’s to the point where they were not worth servicing .
Appreciate the comment! I’m a big fan of Sinn and agree that they make a great watch! This one didn’t make the cut in my rotation but I adore the 556. Rock on! 🤙🏽
I feel the opposite way about this watch, but I appreciate your unfiltered thoughts. If we all felt the same way about watches, we would all own the same ones and have nothing to talk about. I feel that the stiff, solid bezel is a good match for this watch and really like how there is absolutely no play. I also like having a top-grade Sellita as opposed to an in-house caliber in a tool watch like this. I am not bothered about the power reserve and actually prefer 40 hours to 70 to reduce unnecessary wear on the movement when not worn. My BB58 with a 'nicer' movement has been sent in for warranty repair twice in the last 8 months. The Tudor has a signficantly better bezel but I like everything about the package of the Sinn (including the clasp because although it is very dated, it is not oversized like a lot of more modern clasps). I liked your video and I am going to check out some more of them. Cheers!
Very much appreciate your thoughtful reply! Please don’t think I “hate” this watch! I liked the U50 but imvho Sinn is asking a premium price and not necessarily delivering a premium watch. I love the aesthetic and from the earliest days of this channel, back when it was VHS you can see I buy many Sinn pieces. It ultimately came down to….when the person you have been obsessed with for a long time agrees to go out with you and you’re salivating (?!) at the chance and then… the date is a dud and you wonder what the big deal is/was…kind of like that lol. 😂🥰 you make good points about the movement tbh and it’s hard to argue with you about that, sucks your Tudor is a lemon! Hopefully they get it right, that is so frustrating! Although the BB58 is a nifty watch…when it works…which is occasionally. 🥰😚
My, take 🧐… I’m in the market for my last watch.. all my watches but one are beveled, except for one field watch, which is my beater.. 8 1/2” wrists, I smash into everything! So I wear a field watch on extended fishing trips as not to ruin my nicer divers! This is where the U50 is going to fit in, in my rotation 🤔.. a tool watch designed for punishment, nothing more, nothing less. Originally I was leaning towards a Pelagos, but now I think I made up my mind!🧐.. if you want a statement piece, I recommend you look elsewhere! As for me, I ain’t ascared of women with hairy armpits 😉🥸🙃
🤔😂 your point is well taken though, this is a rock solid tool watch with just enough visual and horological interest to keep you engaged for the long haul; not to send a tomahawk into your plans but have you considered the 856 in either variation?
Did you even mention the tegimented bezel and the U-Boat Steel while you were taIking about the pricing? The BB58 might have some more blinginess, but it looks a little generic as well. Most importantly you have to like the unique design of the U50. The specs are just a great addon.
Yep the tegiment is a cool technology and the submarine steel is interesting as well. Damasko offers the same stuff of course for cheaper. It’s surprising how much WR they can bake into such a small package. The U50 certainly has a unique style that’s for sure but the U1 is the original. Personally, I think there are better options at its retail price but under $2k it’s a solid. Check out my review of the Omega Seamaster, I traded my U50 towards that.
Are you kidding me, the Sinn U50 is a killer pro diver and utility watch. My U50 is a recent one with a Top Grade Sellita SW300-1 with all the upgrades such as blue screws, decorations, Rhodium plating, adjusted to 5 positions and the new bigger and stronger main spring barrel and assembly which extends the power reserve to 56-57 hours. Super accurate to 1-2 seconds over a day no issues there. I have Glashutte sea Q 39mm in solid red gold, Blancpain fifty phantom 38mm, Rolex sub 124069, Rolex Starbucks, explorer 226570 black and white dials, etc but the Sinn U50 fully T is a amazing watch IMO.
Whoa you have a really interesting collection of watches! Sinn makes great divers and I have owned several over the years. Oh, and I’m never kidding. 😐😂
@@soundsoserious I know your not kidding, seriously Sinn U50 and other model stand out in such a nice way, original and unique while being slim and little tanks watches.
@@soundsoserious I recently purchased the Tudor BB 54 and Tudor Pelagos 39 along with the BB Pro version and think that U50 is great even special. It amazes me how they able to get 500m from a slim case, in August I will received the new Seiko sje093 X2 to compare also with Blancpain FF and Glashutte sea q39mm and a few more then the process of elimination begins.
That bit at the end whereu said u couldn't wait to put on your sieko - this is because you fundamentally dislike the design at some level. This feeling can't be caused by a low power reserve or sticky bezel. I feel like you are rationalising your aesthetic/stylistic distaste using the stats of the watch, which as you said yourself are addaquate.
I’ve rewatched this vid a few times and you’re right: I’m not sure why I’m in such a funk over this perfectly fine watch. I think I was expecting something spectacular and got something “adequate” instead. Yeah the stats are great and it’s impressive how much depth Sinn can achieve in such a (relatively) slim watch. My criticism basically amounts to nitpicking and maybe with the benefit of hindsight comes across as a little whiny. But please understand that I am a ride or die Sinn lover, and maybe that’s why I’m so critical? We hurt the ones we love don’t we? But yeah, it was packaged up and already sent to a loving home. The watch world comes at you fast and when opportunities arise you have to be willing to get down range (as they say).
@@soundsoserious Iam glad I read your comment here & you realised. I nearly put something negative. I definitely wouldn't of swapped this for the Sea Master. To me the U50 blows The Seamaster out the water for half the price. But if you're not looking for a purpose driven utilitarian instrument Tool watch. Then I can see why average person would go for Omega.
@@MyVideosWillCalmU right on! I appreciate your passion and I’m glad you took the time to read the comments as well! Check out some of my other videos and as always I appreciate the support. 🥰
@@soundsoserious Lol yh I always read the comments. To see how the creator response. Because I don't want to come across as a troll. But to educate where need be. As I've been in this horology game for a while. And around it daily as lot of my friends are dealers. And I tell you for now this piece here U50 Tegimented and the EZM models! Are on a whole different level. And you're talking to some one that's not a fan boy of any brand. Infact I own some of the same pieces you owned in the past and now like your Santos! Etc. I've been following you since you started talking watches. So I watched every thing. I like your channel because you talk from a real users point of view. Even though Iam a Vacheron, And JLC guy. And sold my sports Rolexs and replaced them with Sinn. For tool purposes. Any Rolex I get I sell. Why would I not if ppl want to pay through the nose for hype! Go ahead! I'll sell you it! Ask me to sell one of my Sinns...It ain't gonna happen 🤣👊🏾
The bezel is great. It doesn't have the feel of a ball bearing mechanism such as the Rolex Submariner, but it is super nice. It has its own mechanism to assure that the perfect centering, and the its very stiff, but easy to operate. The power reserve it is higher now. The lume is always weak in Sinn watches, but still after few hours looks exactly the same as my Rolex or Seiko watches.
Appreciate the comments! I’m not a fan of the bezel but it’s not “bad” by any means. It’s serviceable and gets the jorb done. Good to hear about the PR. Very important. Sinn is going to have to go in-house soon though, they just aren’t compelling enough over $2000 imvho. I’m not a lume hound but I find it to be adequate. It’s a nice watch for sure! I bought the thing after all! Got a great deal but it’s not a keeper for me.
I don't have a U50 yet but appreciate your contrarian perspective so when I do get mine (I am buying one this week) I have a more realistic expectation. You have problems spending $2k+ on blah movements (valid) but what about spending $5-10k on an big name "in house movement" watch and scratch it right out of box.
Appreciate the comment! Sinn makes a great watch and I’m sure you’ll enjoy your U50. It wasn’t the right one for me but there are plenty of fans too. It just didn’t seem more than the sum of its parts if that makes sense. At least the Sinn movement hacks. I’ll be reviewing a $$$$$$$ watch soon that doesn’t have that feature. 🥲
@@soundsoserious Now that I have this watch (black on black bracelet) in hand and wearing it, I can definitely understand why you were underwhelmed by it. It's for the same reason that I was able to pick up this watch pre-owned at 9 months old. Coming from a 856 S UTC (which I think is the best one watch for anywhere and any occasions) and many great divers I can say this U50 was not a big wow over the 856S or many of the comparably priced or compared divers (my reference points are Aquis and MM200/300). But I do love Sinn's understated matte black look and toughness and legibility under almost all conditions. Looking forward to seeing your upcoming reviews.
@@1millionstartups Very much appreciate you closing the loop on this! Very helpful comments and terrific insight. Look the u50 is a very good watch and it will be a tireless and reliable companion for years to come. The problem is that Sinn isn’t playing alone in this price segment and this style of watch (compared to 10 years ago). The bar has been raised substantially and imho Sinn needs to be offering more.
The movement is absolutely fine, it's not a slowed down Swatch group movement. The looks are great IMO. The finish is excellent. The amount of back play on the bezel however is simply not good enough for any watch $2000+ & totally ruins the watch.
Appreciate the comments and generally agree. Most of the things about this watch are “fine” and a few are below that. It’s a watch you buy for the look and the style. Nice to see them drift down in price so more people can enjoy them.
Thanks for the review! I think these type of watches like the 2254.50, the pelagos, and u50 are simple in dial layouts. The hope is it will grow on you. I found that to be the case with the 2254.50, however it makes me hesitant about the u50 and the pelagos, if it grows on you you love it, if not no big deal just no connection with the particular piece.
Thank you! I like the watch too and would recommend it. But I’d certainly buy preowned as this is not one that is keeper material for a lot of folks. The Longines Hydroconquest (check out my review!) offers a much better proposition frankly. But hey, I get it…Sinn has brand power. Go for it!
@@soundsoserious Longines packs a mighty punch for the price and I do like the Hydroconquest a lot, but I have a bit of a thing for German watches. My Damasko DC57 is working overtime and needs some down time. No funds at the moment, so we will see how this all unfolds in the current economic turmoil. Thanks again for the video.
If it helps: my u50 was $1650 (full set minus strap) so that’s the fair market value for a non tegimented non bracelet I’d say. It was traded within a month (plus cash) for my Seamaster 300. Best of luck!
I appreciate your honest opinion but on the movement, you do not have the facts straight though: the 556 comes with a SW200 with 38 hours of PR. The U50 comes with a SW300 which, since last year, has been upgraded to 56 hours of PR and Sinn has confirmed (although they don't advertise it) that they are using this version now. So if you got yours recently, you have 56 hours of PR on it. There is is NO Sinn watch with 24 to 35 hours of PR, and I don't even think anyone uses those anymore! 56 hours is not like super amazing or anything, but it's on par with a 55 hours Omega 8800 and people are fine with that. For me, what bothers me beyond anything else is their poor clasp....
Thanks for clarifying the PR upgrade, gotta give props to Sinn on that. Ironically, I traded this u50 for a SMP (spoiler!) so be on the lookout for that thrilling review! 🙏🏼😘
Good honest review. It gets tiring watching reviews that largely only discuss how great a watch is. Makes it seem like a paid promotion, which many of them are.
Last thing I want to come across as is obnoxious, but if you're going to review watches you really need to put the effort in and do your research. Everything about both the U1 and U50 is deliberate, from the bezel action to the lume. There is literally very specific reasons why Sinn designed and engineered the bezel to work the way it does.
Appreciate the comment! Not obnoxious at all. Look I’m a Sinn fan, I get it. I’m pleasantly surprised people still have some passion for this brand. This one just wasn’t for me but hey, if you want to blow $1650 on one of these be my guest mate. But please (honestly) do not spend a penny more than that. Check out my Seamaster Diver 300m review, I traded this one towards that.
Your SMP will scratch much sooner. I own a few Sinn and a few Omega watches and the tegimented cases are worth every penny to me. My SMP and my Tudor are both scratch magnets. That being said, I love my coaxial movement. I like technology in mechanical watches. This is what attracted me to Sinn and what attracted me to Omega. I feel like a 120 click bezel is not too much to ask for on the Sinn at this price point. I am reading conflicting data about the power reserve. Seems like the SW-300-1 can reach 52 hours but I believe the one Sinn uses may be closer to 38-42. 38 is the base for the SW300-1. Other reviews have stated 42. The U-50 is also Dinn 8309 antimagnetic and low pressure resistant too. I think all the technology Sinn uses is an excellent value proposition. If they were to use an in-house high tech movement the watch would easily be in the same price range as a new omega. I appreciate the review. For me I still look to add the U-50 to my collection. The U50-T SDR specifically because I think the tegimented case and bracelet is worth the extra cost. I have found this to be true with my 856 UTC. When I want to wear something with better finishing I will wear my omega or my Tudor but I will baby these watches to avoid scratches.
Very much enjoyed reading your thoughtful comments. I agree that the U-50 offers a lot of practical technology and the case hardening is a nice option (but an overpriced one imho). Sinn has GOT to improve their movements though. They are being lapped by smaller brands and bigger brands alike. I’m not talking about Omega and Breitling either but rather Longines and Formex. I wouldn’t be paying retail for a U-50 but at less than $2k it’s a “pretty good deal”. My condolences to those that lit their money on fire getting the “Professional”.
@@soundsoserious My apologies to you when you pay to get your first scratch removed. I put my tegimented case through hell and there are no visible scratches. Worth every penny. Most watches use steel that is hardened to only 250 vickers while tegimented is rated at 1,200. That is almost 5 times as hard. My other watches gets dinged on door nobs if I'm not careful. Lognines uses ETA base movements and hasn't had an in house movement since the 80s. The Formex reef uses the SW300-1 which is the same movement in the U-50. Sinn makes modifications to increase anti-magnetism which to my knowledge neither Longines or Formex do. Sinn does not certify their movements like Longines and Formex. We have to give these brands credit for certifying some of their models but the Sinn SW300-1 movement is chronometer grade. I do wish Sinn would certify them but how is Formex really better when they use the exact same base movement? Both the Hydroconquest and the Reef have a lower water resistance as well, both at 30 bar. The Hydroconquest has a longer power reserve but also operates at 3.5 hertz to achieve this with its non COSC certified ETA movement. So in summary, I would pay $3k for a watch with more technologies but no certification rather than a $2-3k watch with COSC certification that is inferior in many other respects. Both the Hydroconquest and the Reef are fine options. I wouldnt knock anyones personal preference for these pieces but the U-50-T having a 50 bar rating, being low pressure resistant, DINN 8309 rated, and tegimented is really not a comparable watch. Demasko DSub would be a better comparison. It has the same anti-magnatism rating as the U-50, uses hardened submarine steel case (1,200 vickers), is the only one of the 4 that uses an in-house movement, is 30 bar, 42 hour power reserve at 4 hertz, and is just under $2,300. It is not COSC certified but is regulated in 5 positions. It does not have a bracelet option but is $640 less than the U-50 on rubber. That is a much closer comparison and a much tougher choice.
Very well said and very compelling points! But, and this is important: I paid $1650 for my Sinn, $750 for my Hydroconquest, and $800 for my Reef (v1). The Sinn is a great watch, but it ain’t twice as great. Or thrice as great (?!) if you get the tegimented version. As your friend I’m telling you to not eat retail price on that watch, there are literally a dozen for sale on the secondary market at any time (for an obvious reason when you actually own it). *And I actually bought all three, paid for them all. Be on the lookout for the Formex video soon!
I got the u50 as soon as it came out. Sold it pretty quick as i preferred my U1 blue dial. My complaints were it just wasn't quite big enough. I did not like the bezel and did not like the Crown compared to U1.
How do you look at your Seiko Tuna and say about the same size. It immediately looks much bigger. Even with all of the Seiko magic with their lug height.
I have come from way higher level watches and feel the U50 really stacks up against them. I go to some mean parts of the world and my U50ds is a solid wingman.
The form factor is great. A lot of it has to do with the special submarine steel used in the U50. For example a 556 is the same basic dimensions and uses but is only 200m WR. Damasko also uses the same steel.
This is exactly what I was looking for and I'm glad to find your channel. I was strongly considering U50, but had the exact doubts you mention. There is no more room for B+ pieces in my watch box so that straight from the heart of an owner view point is very helpful. I do have to say, that tegiment technology and lego block design lured me into Sinn. I like the design. So, if not Sinn, then what else would you recommend in the price area? I had BB41, didn't like it, sold it. Would buy new Pelagos, but bit expensive. What do you think.
Appreciate the comment! I’m generally a Tudor fan but my heart breaks for anyone who pays anything over retail for a 39 Pelagos. Very easy pass for me on that one. I’m sure I’ll get one in a year for typical Tudor discount. Check out Formex. An under-the-radar Swiss brand that makes an EPIC diver called the Reef. Edit: Sinn makes some good watches, a few great ones, but the U50 is such a miss in so many ways. Get a 556 and you have all the Sinn you ever need.
@@soundsoserious Thanks for the reply. I did consider Formex. I'm in Europe and it's very hard to get Formex over here. Contrary to Sinn, wich is easily available and cheap. 556 is about 1100USD brand new, would you call it a fair price? U50 is unique in styling, I never see it in the streets and it would be nice to have sth. unusual. I really regret selling Bvlgari SD 38 S and will buy it again if it pops around 1K.
U50 is a fine watch! I paid $1650 USD for mine which I think is the fair price for non-tegimented case and on strap. There are several for sale all the time so try to find the best bargain.
I think I agree with you on this. I’m really over the whole “tool watch” thing. I’m not a diver, a mountain climber, oil rig worker, etc., and I don’t need my watch to help me pretend I am one at the detriment of its looks - not that any of those occupations even require a mechanical watch. I like the artistry, the design, the engineering, and, to a point, the capability of wristwatches. But I don’t need some boring/ugly brick on my wrist to convince myself I’m some hardass.
Lol, well I think there’s a middle ground somewhere there. I have lots of mall ninja watches and I really enjoy them. It’s okay for a watch to be cool and to buy it because it looks awesome. Heck, check out my Panerai 305 video lol! The key is to not take it too seriously and enjoy these nice things (man-jewelry) for what they are and not be too upset if the next person doesn’t think it’s as badass as you do. Appreciate the comment! 🥰
These come with drilled lugs so it’s fairly easy. Stick a toothpick into the lug hole to push the springbar and you should be able to apply gentle tension on the strap to remove. It takes a little practice.
It was okay. Nothing more than that for me but others really like it. I’d buy it used. I paid $1650 for mine (full set minus rubber strap or bracelet).
@@soundsoserious thanks for the honest review. I'm after a beater piece so perhaps it will do. It's around 2k GBP here in the UK. Other option is the pelagos FXD but that's a fair bit more.
That’s a decent price. If selller will take 2k they will take 1850. It’s a buyers market so haggle and get the best deal. I don’t have experience with FXD but I had the BB58. More refined than the Sinn and with a far superior movement but it depends on what style you’re after.
I’m a big fan of Sinn as l already own a 103 sa BE and 856 S UTC. Would love to add the U50 to the collection. However l already have 4 great divers: Submariner 124060, Tudor Pelagos FXD MN21, Pelagos 39 and Seiko SKX Custom YM Ninja.
@@soundsoserious You hit the nail on the head. The U50 would simply not get the wrist time. I’ve been fortunate that my AD was able to allocate me the Submariner, FXD and P39 in the last 12 months. Those 3 are my most worn pieces and a reason l sold my Speedmaster this year.
I have come from way higher level watches and feel the U50 really stacks up against them. I go to some mean parts of the world and my U50ds is a solid wingman.
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This is a well made tool , not to be compared to fashion watches . I use my Sinn’s for their intended purpose and they have lasted decades without fail . I have had water leaks on Breitlings and Seiko’s to the point where they were not worth servicing .
Appreciate the comment! I’m a big fan of Sinn and agree that they make a great watch! This one didn’t make the cut in my rotation but I adore the 556. Rock on! 🤙🏽
Greatly appreciate your honest thoughts, so rare these days. Subscribed.
Thank you! 🫱🏼🫲🏽
I own the U50 SDR and for me it is a Grail Watch and a Strap Monster!
It’s definitely a strap monster! It’s a great option.
I feel the opposite way about this watch, but I appreciate your unfiltered thoughts. If we all felt the same way about watches, we would all own the same ones and have nothing to talk about. I feel that the stiff, solid bezel is a good match for this watch and really like how there is absolutely no play. I also like having a top-grade Sellita as opposed to an in-house caliber in a tool watch like this. I am not bothered about the power reserve and actually prefer 40 hours to 70 to reduce unnecessary wear on the movement when not worn. My BB58 with a 'nicer' movement has been sent in for warranty repair twice in the last 8 months. The Tudor has a signficantly better bezel but I like everything about the package of the Sinn (including the clasp because although it is very dated, it is not oversized like a lot of more modern clasps). I liked your video and I am going to check out some more of them. Cheers!
Very much appreciate your thoughtful reply! Please don’t think I “hate” this watch! I liked the U50 but imvho Sinn is asking a premium price and not necessarily delivering a premium watch. I love the aesthetic and from the earliest days of this channel, back when it was VHS you can see I buy many Sinn pieces. It ultimately came down to….when the person you have been obsessed with for a long time agrees to go out with you and you’re salivating (?!) at the chance and then… the date is a dud and you wonder what the big deal is/was…kind of like that lol. 😂🥰 you make good points about the movement tbh and it’s hard to argue with you about that, sucks your Tudor is a lemon! Hopefully they get it right, that is so frustrating! Although the BB58 is a nifty watch…when it works…which is occasionally. 🥰😚
My, take 🧐… I’m in the market for my last watch.. all my watches but one are beveled, except for one field watch, which is my beater.. 8 1/2” wrists, I smash into everything! So I wear a field watch on extended fishing trips as not to ruin my nicer divers! This is where the U50 is going to fit in, in my rotation 🤔.. a tool watch designed for punishment, nothing more, nothing less. Originally I was leaning towards a Pelagos, but now I think I made up my mind!🧐.. if you want a statement piece, I recommend you look elsewhere! As for me, I ain’t ascared of women with hairy armpits 😉🥸🙃
🤔😂 your point is well taken though, this is a rock solid tool watch with just enough visual and horological interest to keep you engaged for the long haul; not to send a tomahawk into your plans but have you considered the 856 in either variation?
Did you even mention the tegimented bezel and the U-Boat Steel while you were taIking about the pricing? The BB58 might have some more blinginess, but it looks a little generic as well. Most importantly you have to like the unique design of the U50. The specs are just a great addon.
Yep the tegiment is a cool technology and the submarine steel is interesting as well. Damasko offers the same stuff of course for cheaper. It’s surprising how much WR they can bake into such a small package. The U50 certainly has a unique style that’s for sure but the U1 is the original. Personally, I think there are better options at its retail price but under $2k it’s a solid. Check out my review of the Omega Seamaster, I traded my U50 towards that.
There’s a reason why most reviewers don’t spend a couple of minutes setting the time in their videos bro
Appreciate the comment! Check out some of my other videos bro.
Are you kidding me, the Sinn U50 is a killer pro diver and utility watch. My U50 is a recent one with a Top Grade Sellita SW300-1 with all the upgrades such as blue screws, decorations, Rhodium plating, adjusted to 5 positions and the new bigger and stronger main spring barrel and assembly which extends the power reserve to 56-57 hours. Super accurate to 1-2 seconds over a day no issues there. I have Glashutte sea Q 39mm in solid red gold, Blancpain fifty phantom 38mm, Rolex sub 124069, Rolex Starbucks, explorer 226570 black and white dials, etc but the Sinn U50 fully T is a amazing watch IMO.
Whoa you have a really interesting collection of watches! Sinn makes great divers and I have owned several over the years. Oh, and I’m never kidding. 😐😂
@@soundsoserious I know your not kidding, seriously Sinn U50 and other model stand out in such a nice way, original and unique while being slim and little tanks watches.
I don’t disagree. Overall nice watches but for me the basic 556 is all the Sinn anybody needs.
@@soundsoserious I recently purchased the Tudor BB 54 and Tudor Pelagos 39 along with the BB Pro version and think that U50 is great even special. It amazes me how they able to get 500m from a slim case, in August I will received the new Seiko sje093 X2 to compare also with Blancpain FF and Glashutte sea q39mm and a few more then the process of elimination begins.
@@josevasquez1781 whoa! nice haul! it’ll be interesting to see what makes THE CUT 🔪
The crown is there so it is ambidextrous, won’t dig into your hand no matter if its on the left or right wrist
Thanks!
That bit at the end whereu said u couldn't wait to put on your sieko - this is because you fundamentally dislike the design at some level.
This feeling can't be caused by a low power reserve or sticky bezel. I feel like you are rationalising your aesthetic/stylistic distaste using the stats of the watch, which as you said yourself are addaquate.
I’ve rewatched this vid a few times and you’re right: I’m not sure why I’m in such a funk over this perfectly fine watch. I think I was expecting something spectacular and got something “adequate” instead. Yeah the stats are great and it’s impressive how much depth Sinn can achieve in such a (relatively) slim watch. My criticism basically amounts to nitpicking and maybe with the benefit of hindsight comes across as a little whiny. But please understand that I am a ride or die Sinn lover, and maybe that’s why I’m so critical? We hurt the ones we love don’t we? But yeah, it was packaged up and already sent to a loving home. The watch world comes at you fast and when opportunities arise you have to be willing to get down range (as they say).
@@soundsoserious Iam glad I read your comment here & you realised. I nearly put something negative. I definitely wouldn't of swapped this for the Sea Master. To me the U50 blows The Seamaster out the water for half the price. But if you're not looking for a purpose driven utilitarian instrument Tool watch. Then I can see why average person would go for Omega.
@@MyVideosWillCalmU right on! I appreciate your passion and I’m glad you took the time to read the comments as well! Check out some of my other videos and as always I appreciate the support. 🥰
@@soundsoserious Lol yh I always read the comments. To see how the creator response. Because I don't want to come across as a troll. But to educate where need be. As I've been in this horology game for a while. And around it daily as lot of my friends are dealers. And I tell you for now this piece here U50 Tegimented and the EZM models! Are on a whole different level. And you're talking to some one that's not a fan boy of any brand. Infact I own some of the same pieces you owned in the past and now like your Santos! Etc. I've been following you since you started talking watches. So I watched every thing. I like your channel because you talk from a real users point of view. Even though Iam a Vacheron, And JLC guy. And sold my sports Rolexs and replaced them with Sinn. For tool purposes. Any Rolex I get I sell. Why would I not if ppl want to pay through the nose for hype! Go ahead! I'll sell you it! Ask me to sell one of my Sinns...It ain't gonna happen 🤣👊🏾
The bezel is great. It doesn't have the feel of a ball bearing mechanism such as the Rolex Submariner, but it is super nice. It has its own mechanism to assure that the perfect centering, and the its very stiff, but easy to operate.
The power reserve it is higher now.
The lume is always weak in Sinn watches, but still after few hours looks exactly the same as my Rolex or Seiko watches.
Appreciate the comments! I’m not a fan of the bezel but it’s not “bad” by any means. It’s serviceable and gets the jorb done.
Good to hear about the PR. Very important. Sinn is going to have to go in-house soon though, they just aren’t compelling enough over $2000 imvho.
I’m not a lume hound but I find it to be adequate.
It’s a nice watch for sure! I bought the thing after all! Got a great deal but it’s not a keeper for me.
I don't have a U50 yet but appreciate your contrarian perspective so when I do get mine (I am buying one this week) I have a more realistic expectation. You have problems spending $2k+ on blah movements (valid) but what about spending $5-10k on an big name "in house movement" watch and scratch it right out of box.
Appreciate the comment! Sinn makes a great watch and I’m sure you’ll enjoy your U50. It wasn’t the right one for me but there are plenty of fans too. It just didn’t seem more than the sum of its parts if that makes sense. At least the Sinn movement hacks. I’ll be reviewing a $$$$$$$ watch soon that doesn’t have that feature. 🥲
@@soundsoserious Now that I have this watch (black on black bracelet) in hand and wearing it, I can definitely understand why you were underwhelmed by it. It's for the same reason that I was able to pick up this watch pre-owned at 9 months old. Coming from a 856 S UTC (which I think is the best one watch for anywhere and any occasions) and many great divers I can say this U50 was not a big wow over the 856S or many of the comparably priced or compared divers (my reference points are Aquis and MM200/300). But I do love Sinn's understated matte black look and toughness and legibility under almost all conditions. Looking forward to seeing your upcoming reviews.
@@1millionstartups Very much appreciate you closing the loop on this! Very helpful comments and terrific insight. Look the u50 is a very good watch and it will be a tireless and reliable companion for years to come. The problem is that Sinn isn’t playing alone in this price segment and this style of watch (compared to 10 years ago). The bar has been raised substantially and imho Sinn needs to be offering more.
The movement is absolutely fine, it's not a slowed down Swatch group movement. The looks are great IMO. The finish is excellent. The amount of back play on the bezel however is simply not good enough for any watch $2000+ & totally ruins the watch.
Appreciate the comments and generally agree. Most of the things about this watch are “fine” and a few are below that. It’s a watch you buy for the look and the style. Nice to see them drift down in price so more people can enjoy them.
Thanks for the review! I think these type of watches like the 2254.50, the pelagos, and u50 are simple in dial layouts. The hope is it will grow on you. I found that to be the case with the 2254.50, however it makes me hesitant about the u50 and the pelagos, if it grows on you you love it, if not no big deal just no connection with the particular piece.
Totally agree. Check out my review on the 2254.50!
It is good to see such an objective review. I like the watch and still hoping to buy one at some point.
Thank you! I like the watch too and would recommend it. But I’d certainly buy preowned as this is not one that is keeper material for a lot of folks. The Longines Hydroconquest (check out my review!) offers a much better proposition frankly. But hey, I get it…Sinn has brand power. Go for it!
@@soundsoserious Longines packs a mighty punch for the price and I do like the Hydroconquest a lot, but I have a bit of a thing for German watches. My Damasko DC57 is working overtime and needs some down time. No funds at the moment, so we will see how this all unfolds in the current economic turmoil. Thanks again for the video.
If it helps: my u50 was $1650 (full set minus strap) so that’s the fair market value for a non tegimented non bracelet I’d say. It was traded within a month (plus cash) for my Seamaster 300. Best of luck!
I appreciate your honest opinion but on the movement, you do not have the facts straight though: the 556 comes with a SW200 with 38 hours of PR. The U50 comes with a SW300 which, since last year, has been upgraded to 56 hours of PR and Sinn has confirmed (although they don't advertise it) that they are using this version now. So if you got yours recently, you have 56 hours of PR on it. There is is NO Sinn watch with 24 to 35 hours of PR, and I don't even think anyone uses those anymore! 56 hours is not like super amazing or anything, but it's on par with a 55 hours Omega 8800 and people are fine with that. For me, what bothers me beyond anything else is their poor clasp....
Thanks for clarifying the PR upgrade, gotta give props to Sinn on that. Ironically, I traded this u50 for a SMP (spoiler!) so be on the lookout for that thrilling review! 🙏🏼😘
Sinn really does need to rework the clasp. Personally I love the H link bracelet (look and feel) but wish the clasp wasn't so clunky
Good honest review. It gets tiring watching reviews that largely only discuss how great a watch is. Makes it seem like a paid promotion, which many of them are.
Thanks for the comment. And I agree completely.
Last thing I want to come across as is obnoxious, but if you're going to review watches you really need to put the effort in and do your research.
Everything about both the U1 and U50 is deliberate, from the bezel action to the lume. There is literally very specific reasons why Sinn designed and engineered the bezel to work the way it does.
Appreciate the comment! Not obnoxious at all. Look I’m a Sinn fan, I get it. I’m pleasantly surprised people still have some passion for this brand. This one just wasn’t for me but hey, if you want to blow $1650 on one of these be my guest mate. But please (honestly) do not spend a penny more than that. Check out my Seamaster Diver 300m review, I traded this one towards that.
I totally agree.
Same story on german cars, bike etc.
Yes yes yes
as the ancient Romans used to say: de gustibum, non est disputandum (you can't dispute tastes).
So true! Appreciate the Latin lesson! 😙
Your SMP will scratch much sooner. I own a few Sinn and a few Omega watches and the tegimented cases are worth every penny to me. My SMP and my Tudor are both scratch magnets. That being said, I love my coaxial movement. I like technology in mechanical watches. This is what attracted me to Sinn and what attracted me to Omega. I feel like a 120 click bezel is not too much to ask for on the Sinn at this price point. I am reading conflicting data about the power reserve. Seems like the SW-300-1 can reach 52 hours but I believe the one Sinn uses may be closer to 38-42. 38 is the base for the SW300-1. Other reviews have stated 42. The U-50 is also Dinn 8309 antimagnetic and low pressure resistant too. I think all the technology Sinn uses is an excellent value proposition. If they were to use an in-house high tech movement the watch would easily be in the same price range as a new omega.
I appreciate the review. For me I still look to add the U-50 to my collection. The U50-T SDR specifically because I think the tegimented case and bracelet is worth the extra cost. I have found this to be true with my 856 UTC. When I want to wear something with better finishing I will wear my omega or my Tudor but I will baby these watches to avoid scratches.
Very much enjoyed reading your thoughtful comments. I agree that the U-50 offers a lot of practical technology and the case hardening is a nice option (but an overpriced one imho). Sinn has GOT to improve their movements though. They are being lapped by smaller brands and bigger brands alike. I’m not talking about Omega and Breitling either but rather Longines and Formex. I wouldn’t be paying retail for a U-50 but at less than $2k it’s a “pretty good deal”. My condolences to those that lit their money on fire getting the “Professional”.
@@soundsoserious My apologies to you when you pay to get your first scratch removed. I put my tegimented case through hell and there are no visible scratches. Worth every penny. Most watches use steel that is hardened to only 250 vickers while tegimented is rated at 1,200. That is almost 5 times as hard. My other watches gets dinged on door nobs if I'm not careful.
Lognines uses ETA base movements and hasn't had an in house movement since the 80s. The Formex reef uses the SW300-1 which is the same movement in the U-50. Sinn makes modifications to increase anti-magnetism which to my knowledge neither Longines or Formex do. Sinn does not certify their movements like Longines and Formex. We have to give these brands credit for certifying some of their models but the Sinn SW300-1 movement is chronometer grade. I do wish Sinn would certify them but how is Formex really better when they use the exact same base movement?
Both the Hydroconquest and the Reef have a lower water resistance as well, both at 30 bar. The Hydroconquest has a longer power reserve but also operates at 3.5 hertz to achieve this with its non COSC certified ETA movement.
So in summary, I would pay $3k for a watch with more technologies but no certification rather than a $2-3k watch with COSC certification that is inferior in many other respects. Both the Hydroconquest and the Reef are fine options. I wouldnt knock anyones personal preference for these pieces but the U-50-T having a 50 bar rating, being low pressure resistant, DINN 8309 rated, and tegimented is really not a comparable watch.
Demasko DSub would be a better comparison. It has the same anti-magnatism rating as the U-50, uses hardened submarine steel case (1,200 vickers), is the only one of the 4 that uses an in-house movement, is 30 bar, 42 hour power reserve at 4 hertz, and is just under $2,300. It is not COSC certified but is regulated in 5 positions. It does not have a bracelet option but is $640 less than the U-50 on rubber. That is a much closer comparison and a much tougher choice.
Very well said and very compelling points! But, and this is important: I paid $1650 for my Sinn, $750 for my Hydroconquest, and $800 for my Reef (v1). The Sinn is a great watch, but it ain’t twice as great. Or thrice as great (?!) if you get the tegimented version. As your friend I’m telling you to not eat retail price on that watch, there are literally a dozen for sale on the secondary market at any time (for an obvious reason when you actually own it). *And I actually bought all three, paid for them all. Be on the lookout for the Formex video soon!
@@soundsoserious Good point. Buying quality used will always be better value for money.
I got the u50 as soon as it came out. Sold it pretty quick as i preferred my U1 blue dial. My complaints were it just wasn't quite big enough. I did not like the bezel and did not like the Crown compared to U1.
The U1 is the original. In many ways this is the watch that MADE modern Sinn. The U50 is the midsize version. Both nice but yeah…stick to the classic.
How do you look at your Seiko Tuna and say about the same size. It immediately looks much bigger. Even with all of the Seiko magic with their lug height.
Great point! Check out some of my other Seiko Tuna vids too !
I have come from way higher level watches and feel the U50 really stacks up against them. I go to some mean parts of the world and my U50ds is a solid wingman.
I prefer (strongly) the cheaper 556; but this one certainly has a bit more style.
Nice. Very slim for a 500m diver. How do the Germans do this? I have a Damasko DS30 that is under 10mm and offers 200 meters.
The form factor is great. A lot of it has to do with the special submarine steel used in the U50. For example a 556 is the same basic dimensions and uses but is only 200m WR. Damasko also uses the same steel.
This is exactly what I was looking for and I'm glad to find your channel. I was strongly considering U50, but had the exact doubts you mention. There is no more room for B+ pieces in my watch box so that straight from the heart of an owner view point is very helpful. I do have to say, that tegiment technology and lego block design lured me into Sinn. I like the design. So, if not Sinn, then what else would you recommend in the price area? I had BB41, didn't like it, sold it. Would buy new Pelagos, but bit expensive. What do you think.
Appreciate the comment! I’m generally a Tudor fan but my heart breaks for anyone who pays anything over retail for a 39 Pelagos. Very easy pass for me on that one. I’m sure I’ll get one in a year for typical Tudor discount. Check out Formex. An under-the-radar Swiss brand that makes an EPIC diver called the Reef.
Edit: Sinn makes some good watches, a few great ones, but the U50 is such a miss in so many ways. Get a 556 and you have all the Sinn you ever need.
@@soundsoserious Thanks for the reply. I did consider Formex. I'm in Europe and it's very hard to get Formex over here. Contrary to Sinn, wich is easily available and cheap. 556 is about 1100USD brand new, would you call it a fair price? U50 is unique in styling, I never see it in the streets and it would be nice to have sth. unusual. I really regret selling Bvlgari SD 38 S and will buy it again if it pops around 1K.
U50 is a fine watch! I paid $1650 USD for mine which I think is the fair price for non-tegimented case and on strap. There are several for sale all the time so try to find the best bargain.
I think I agree with you on this. I’m really over the whole “tool watch” thing. I’m not a diver, a mountain climber, oil rig worker, etc., and I don’t need my watch to help me pretend I am one at the detriment of its looks - not that any of those occupations even require a mechanical watch. I like the artistry, the design, the engineering, and, to a point, the capability of wristwatches. But I don’t need some boring/ugly brick on my wrist to convince myself I’m some hardass.
Lol, well I think there’s a middle ground somewhere there. I have lots of mall ninja watches and I really enjoy them. It’s okay for a watch to be cool and to buy it because it looks awesome. Heck, check out my Panerai 305 video lol! The key is to not take it too seriously and enjoy these nice things (man-jewelry) for what they are and not be too upset if the next person doesn’t think it’s as badass as you do. Appreciate the comment! 🥰
Exactly
Movement and lume and clasp are let downs
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I agreee with everything. Sellita SW-200 is just plain
I like the watch, I’d have another but if I’m being honest it’s just trade bait for me.
Except this is nota Sellita 200!
Mine came with the rubber strap which I am trying to remove and put a NATO strap instead. Any idea how to remove the rubber strap from the lug?
These come with drilled lugs so it’s fairly easy. Stick a toothpick into the lug hole to push the springbar and you should be able to apply gentle tension on the strap to remove. It takes a little practice.
Are you selling it?
traded
Where is your NATO from ?
Zulu Diver makes it. I think it’s available on Amazon. Great quality. Honestly it’s outlasted a heck of a lotta watches including this one.
@@soundsoserious did you not get on well with the sinn then ? Considering the u50 sdr on the grey canvas strap from sinn
It was okay. Nothing more than that for me but others really like it. I’d buy it used. I paid $1650 for mine (full set minus rubber strap or bracelet).
@@soundsoserious thanks for the honest review. I'm after a beater piece so perhaps it will do. It's around 2k GBP here in the UK. Other option is the pelagos FXD but that's a fair bit more.
That’s a decent price. If selller will take 2k they will take 1850. It’s a buyers market so haggle and get the best deal. I don’t have experience with FXD but I had the BB58. More refined than the Sinn and with a far superior movement but it depends on what style you’re after.
What’s good
What indeed? 🤔😏
I’m a big fan of Sinn as l already own a 103 sa BE and 856 S UTC.
Would love to add the U50 to the collection. However l already have 4 great divers: Submariner 124060, Tudor Pelagos FXD MN21, Pelagos 39 and Seiko SKX Custom YM Ninja.
Ok wow, you have some grail level divers, the Tudors especially. Brutal honesty; u50 won’t make your rotation and you will move it within 6 months.
@@soundsoserious You hit the nail on the head. The U50 would simply not get the wrist time. I’ve been fortunate that my AD was able to allocate me the Submariner, FXD and P39 in the last 12 months. Those 3 are my most worn pieces and a reason l sold my Speedmaster this year.
I have come from way higher level watches and feel the U50 really stacks up against them. I go to some mean parts of the world and my U50ds is a solid wingman.
Happy to hear that! Your situation is certainly one in which the U50 might truly shine: under-the-radar tough/good watch.