Nice review. Good points. I think it is also very important to mention gate closures and livestock as the SE segment goes through BLM permitted grazing areas. If the gate is closed, carefully return it to exactly the way it was found. In September there will be ranchers moving cattle. Our protocol is to come to a complete and silent stop until the cowboy(s) give you instruction about traveling through a herd.
Really nice break down of the different sections and what they have to offer. I’ve been on bits of the WABDR but haven’t (knowingly) been on the ORBDR.
Thanks for the video guys. Getting ready to do the ORBDR in a full size F-150 and gathering as much info as I can before heading out next summer. How was it in a full size truck? Anything besides the typical pinstriping to be concerned about?
Thanks for watching! Pinstriping is the biggest issue in a full size, with the back half of section 3, through section 5 being the worst. I would recommend avoiding the optional portions of section 5 and staying clear of Cache Mountain, unless you have a budget for a new paint job! Tire puncturing rocks can also be a concern in sections 1 and 2!
@@Western-Wild Hey one other quick question...I'm going with someone who isn't very fond of shelf roads (i guess who is really haha) are there many on this route? I heard section 7 had some and I know about Cache Mountain but what about the sections? Thanks!
Thank you guys, I have the map & appreciate your personalities and your sect by sect info. It's on my list for possibly end Oct /Nov, or for next year. Your opinion on best month to do the ORBDR?
Appreciate the kind words for us and @ScaleOfTwo! Mid Sept into early Oct is ideal. After that it just depends on the weather. In a late snow year Oct and Nov would be doable and potentially quite nice. Just watch the weather in the mountains and be prepared with the right gear for early snow in Sections 4 through 7!
What app/map are you guys using? For example, at 4:40. The interactive map provided on the BDR site doesn't look like this and the map you're sharing seems much nicer to use.
This is Gaia GPS, there is a free version to try out but I believe the video does show some premium features. We love it! The premium subscription has gotten more expensive recently, but still worth it if you spend a lot of time outdoors!
The amount of snow the Oregon Cascades got this year is probably going to push that awful skeeter season into August. Unfortunately, the mosquitoes going away means fire season is on the the horizon. With that said, thanks for the breakdown. I've done a bunch of random trips based out of Bend headed southeast and of many of those POIs look familiar. Also, similar to comments expressed by Winston, as you get closer to Portland those routes are all well-traveled already. Fortunately, there's a vast expanse of Oregon not covered by these routes to get out into as well. Some added Government Camp beta: there is a lot of dispersed camping in the area, but as long as Timberline Lodge is running chairlifts in the summer, they are all filled up with skiers & snowboarders in their sprinters etc. Oh, and for beer, the Hood River Brewing is ok and all, but drinking in Govy is about cold cans of Rainier at Charlie's.
Glad you enjoyed the breakdown, and agreed that the window will be extra short this year. Hopefully the snow pack delays fire season a bit too. Good point on the sprinters outside of Government Camp. In general finding camp in the northern section will be a little interesting and likely require significant excursions on side roads.
@@ScaleofTwo I have probably spent more nights camped out on Govy loop in my old AWD Astro than the rest of Oregon. Charlie's always made that much more comfortable
Enjoyed the video, but disagree with the recommendation for stopping in Bend? In the BDR spirit, support small towns! Sisters, OR has delicious outdoor dining options (High Camp, Luckey’s Woodsman, The Barn, etc) all with a wide selection of epic food and beer. Grocery, autoparts and Sister Moto. Many coffee shops, bakeries and fuel options, too. Just slow down and take it all in while leaving no trace. Just my $.02. 😊
Thanks for watching! Bend got covered a lot since (at the time) the main route for section 4 wasn’t really viable and the alt through Bend made a lot of sense. Our channel is actually based out of Sisters! We filmed a mini-Sisters guide for this but it didn’t work out for the Final Cut.
Enjoyed the commentary on Part 1 regarding the "history" of the ORBDR. Definitely a bit of a rebranding but it's hard not to be sympathetic if the prior stewards of the name didn't want to collaborate. Oregon has so many connecting trails that labelling one as ORBDR is somewhat arbitrary. It's probably good to keep those who want the direction in a set course. I appreciate the open discussion. It annoys me to no end when you hear someone bemoaning the "newcomers". I could classify anyone who started in the last 25 years as that & I know there are others who predate me by 1-3 decades more who could say the same of me. Ultimately, there will always be new people and it's better to shepherd them into overlanding responsibly. The ability to use GPS, Gaia, Google Maps, etc has revolutionized offroading and certainly brought more people; however it's also a lot clearer what someone is getting into and hopefully, its consequently safer. Nice work!
Glad you enjoyed the video and completely agree on all fronts! Always room for more routes and respectfully educating newcomers is a far better solution than gatekeeping. There is plenty of room for all of us on the trails as long as we recreate responsibly.
Ridebdr.com has the route available for free with a fair number of POIs marked. Not sure if anyone has created a more detailed package for waypoints yet.
When you drive section 4 you drive past my home. Please respect those few of us that live here and SLOW DOWN.! The dust on USFS road 4601 gets old quickly.
Have you seen many motos coming up your way? I'm sure traffic will increase when Three Creeks Road opens up next week. Love the RUclips handle, very fitting 😉
@@Western-Wild I have been here since 1990, Each year traffic increases and USFS maintenance is non existent. The motorcycles are the most courteous and slow down the most. The 4WD rigs are the worst. The bigger the rig and more tricked out the rig the faster they drive. Those of us who love traveling off the pavement must learn to respect the resource, public and private. If not, we will be seeing more restrictions on the use of these resources. Sorry about the rant.
@@SkylinersYeti I was mostly just curious since 4x4s are pretty common up there all year, while the motos would indicate more BDR use. Your comments do emphasize a point that we tried to make with this video in that unfortunately some local stakeholders will be negatively impacted by the new route.
@westernwildoutdoors yes I truly know it will be a trial !! But if outfitted well super light gear , and not be in a hurry, I think I can do it ...p.s. I do have a 2019 f750gs and a 1999 f650gs , the later is for sale , so I do know how tough the trip can be (have friends that have ridin the entire thing +,,, at least I have a good idea what's ahead of me if , I try it on the honda !
@@CharlesCole-m1b I think you should totally give it a shot and let us know how it goes! Maybe even document it and start your own RUclips channel. People would watch.
@@Western-Wild oh I definitely will document 😊, still working on outfitting the bike for just that trip, super light camping gear is no problem, I back pack alot ...
I've been wanting to do these routes for sooooooo long! Thank you for this video and all this great information! Can't wait to get out there!
Glad you enjoyed it! Some sections may be a bit skinny for the Ram, but rerouting can be part of the fun 😉
@@Western-Wild For sure!!! We all know how Marshall feels about pinstripes lol
Nice review. Good points. I think it is also very important to mention gate closures and livestock as the SE segment goes through BLM permitted grazing areas. If the gate is closed, carefully return it to exactly the way it was found. In September there will be ranchers moving cattle. Our protocol is to come to a complete and silent stop until the cowboy(s) give you instruction about traveling through a herd.
Great points that we should have included! There will be a lot of gates on sections 1 and 2!
Great video! Thank you for sharing your experiences.
Thank you!
I have driven most of section 3 in the late 90's in a 70 bug, it is an awesome drive down china hat rd.
Such a cool area out there! Could see a lot of people pushing through it to the mountains… but totally worth spending a lot of time in.
@@Western-Wild indeed and will be trying to plan at least one trip doing that this year!
Really nice break down of the different sections and what they have to offer. I’ve been on bits of the WABDR but haven’t (knowingly) been on the ORBDR.
Thanks Scott! I’m sure you’ve driven sections by accident haha. We certainly have.
Thanks for the video guys. Getting ready to do the ORBDR in a full size F-150 and gathering as much info as I can before heading out next summer. How was it in a full size truck? Anything besides the typical pinstriping to be concerned about?
Thanks for watching! Pinstriping is the biggest issue in a full size, with the back half of section 3, through section 5 being the worst. I would recommend avoiding the optional portions of section 5 and staying clear of Cache Mountain, unless you have a budget for a new paint job! Tire puncturing rocks can also be a concern in sections 1 and 2!
@@Western-Wild Thanks! I'm looking forward to doing it. Did the WABDR last year it was a blast.
@@Western-Wild Hey one other quick question...I'm going with someone who isn't very fond of shelf roads (i guess who is really haha) are there many on this route? I heard section 7 had some and I know about Cache Mountain but what about the sections? Thanks!
Thank you guys, I have the map & appreciate your personalities and your sect by sect info.
It's on my list for possibly end Oct /Nov, or for next year.
Your opinion on best month to do the ORBDR?
Appreciate the kind words for us and @ScaleOfTwo! Mid Sept into early Oct is ideal. After that it just depends on the weather. In a late snow year Oct and Nov would be doable and potentially quite nice. Just watch the weather in the mountains and be prepared with the right gear for early snow in Sections 4 through 7!
@@Western-Wild Thank you!
What app/map are you guys using? For example, at 4:40. The interactive map provided on the BDR site doesn't look like this and the map you're sharing seems much nicer to use.
This is Gaia GPS, there is a free version to try out but I believe the video does show some premium features. We love it! The premium subscription has gotten more expensive recently, but still worth it if you spend a lot of time outdoors!
The amount of snow the Oregon Cascades got this year is probably going to push that awful skeeter season into August. Unfortunately, the mosquitoes going away means fire season is on the the horizon. With that said, thanks for the breakdown. I've done a bunch of random trips based out of Bend headed southeast and of many of those POIs look familiar. Also, similar to comments expressed by Winston, as you get closer to Portland those routes are all well-traveled already. Fortunately, there's a vast expanse of Oregon not covered by these routes to get out into as well.
Some added Government Camp beta: there is a lot of dispersed camping in the area, but as long as Timberline Lodge is running chairlifts in the summer, they are all filled up with skiers & snowboarders in their sprinters etc. Oh, and for beer, the Hood River Brewing is ok and all, but drinking in Govy is about cold cans of Rainier at Charlie's.
Glad you enjoyed the breakdown, and agreed that the window will be extra short this year. Hopefully the snow pack delays fire season a bit too. Good point on the sprinters outside of Government Camp. In general finding camp in the northern section will be a little interesting and likely require significant excursions on side roads.
I totally whiffed on Charlie's, 100% agreed. I couldn't remember the name of the bar for the life of me!
@@ScaleofTwo I have probably spent more nights camped out on Govy loop in my old AWD Astro than the rest of Oregon. Charlie's always made that much more comfortable
Enjoyed the video, but disagree with the recommendation for stopping in Bend? In the BDR spirit, support small towns! Sisters, OR has delicious outdoor dining options (High Camp, Luckey’s Woodsman, The Barn, etc) all with a wide selection of epic food and beer. Grocery, autoparts and Sister Moto. Many coffee shops, bakeries and fuel options, too. Just slow down and take it all in while leaving no trace. Just my $.02. 😊
Thanks for watching! Bend got covered a lot since (at the time) the main route for section 4 wasn’t really viable and the alt through Bend made a lot of sense. Our channel is actually based out of Sisters! We filmed a mini-Sisters guide for this but it didn’t work out for the Final Cut.
Enjoyed the commentary on Part 1 regarding the "history" of the ORBDR. Definitely a bit of a rebranding but it's hard not to be sympathetic if the prior stewards of the name didn't want to collaborate. Oregon has so many connecting trails that labelling one as ORBDR is somewhat arbitrary. It's probably good to keep those who want the direction in a set course.
I appreciate the open discussion. It annoys me to no end when you hear someone bemoaning the "newcomers". I could classify anyone who started in the last 25 years as that & I know there are others who predate me by 1-3 decades more who could say the same of me. Ultimately, there will always be new people and it's better to shepherd them into overlanding responsibly. The ability to use GPS, Gaia, Google Maps, etc has revolutionized offroading and certainly brought more people; however it's also a lot clearer what someone is getting into and hopefully, its consequently safer. Nice work!
Glad you enjoyed the video and completely agree on all fronts! Always room for more routes and respectfully educating newcomers is a far better solution than gatekeeping. There is plenty of room for all of us on the trails as long as we recreate responsibly.
Kinda conveinant that the end of the ORBDR is about 20 ish miles east of the start of the WABDR.
Haha yeah they planned it that way! Hood River is a great place to start or end a trip.
Is there a site that you can download the entire route with interest points?
Ridebdr.com has the route available for free with a fair number of POIs marked. Not sure if anyone has created a more detailed package for waypoints yet.
Thank you@@Western-Wild
When you drive section 4 you drive past my home. Please respect those few of us that live here and SLOW DOWN.! The dust on USFS road 4601 gets old quickly.
Have you seen many motos coming up your way? I'm sure traffic will increase when Three Creeks Road opens up next week. Love the RUclips handle, very fitting 😉
@@Western-Wild I have been here since 1990, Each year traffic increases and USFS maintenance is non existent. The motorcycles are the most courteous and slow down the most. The 4WD rigs are the worst. The bigger the rig and more tricked out the rig the faster they drive. Those of us who love traveling off the pavement must learn to respect the resource, public and private. If not, we will be seeing more restrictions on the use of these resources. Sorry about the rant.
@@SkylinersYeti I was mostly just curious since 4x4s are pretty common up there all year, while the motos would indicate more BDR use. Your comments do emphasize a point that we tried to make with this video in that unfortunately some local stakeholders will be negatively impacted by the new route.
Anybody ride the hole thing on a honda CT 125 ?
Not that I know of yet. You'd be fine on range but it would be a slog!
@westernwildoutdoors yes I truly know it will be a trial !! But if outfitted well super light gear , and not be in a hurry, I think I can do it ...p.s. I do have a 2019 f750gs and a 1999 f650gs , the later is for sale , so I do know how tough the trip can be (have friends that have ridin the entire thing +,,, at least I have a good idea what's ahead of me if , I try it on the honda !
@@CharlesCole-m1b I think you should totally give it a shot and let us know how it goes! Maybe even document it and start your own RUclips channel. People would watch.
@@Western-Wild oh I definitely will document 😊, still working on outfitting the bike for just that trip, super light camping gear is no problem, I back pack alot ...