I forgot that Feigl taught at the the University of Minnesota, Mpls. (Recognized his description of the Mall and Northrop Auditorium.) Deny these old Logical Positivists what you will, they sure had a clarity of thought and expression! What a contrast to the Continental philosophers and the Postmodernists. So Feigl was a Compatibilist. Interesting!
If determinism was absolute, then I would be like a proton in a molecule, locked in until the energy came along to force me out. The proton does not demonstrate a separate constraint, a will separate from its fate (we suppose). But people make choices thousands of times a day. Routine is deceiving. We put our head on the same pillow, but we are a million miles away from where we and the pillow and the Earth were the last time we did it. Sameness is as real as determinism. If we perceive order then we are looking at design. Golf is designed, from the manufacturer of the ball to the grooming of the green. We get to hit the ball. We don't get to pick the weather. The skill we bring is not determinable. Super physics could predict the event maybe, as it was happening. That would be reporting, Not proving determination. Of course from Davidson we know that the event needs to be described in a way that has no resemblance to super physics. Quantum Mechanics may tell us how things are, but we can't understand it. Language is required long before something can be determined, and there are an infinite number of ways to say something. If it were random, I wouldn't be thinking of what to say, or do.
Science takes things down to least conditions. Extrapolating Science as an answer to big questions is to build a Tower of Babel. The higher you go, the further from the real you end up. If it seems like a paradox, it might be nonsense.
This guy would have benefited from reading the Holy Scriptures. He might find he has been mistaken and the question was already answered. It didn't wait for him and Quine to be agglutinated.
"We" cant do anything the brains doesn't "allow" us to do. The brain cannot do anything the environment it comes from doesn't allow it to do. The environment cannot do anything the initial conditions of the earlier universe didn't allow it to do. Life is as simple and complicated as that.
52 minutes He is still going around in circles, but he is close. Maybe determinism is without meaning? Laplace supercomputer is itself a construction and in no way determinant. We are constrained, Protons and neutrons are constrained within atoms. Children are constrained initially by their utter infirmity and dependency, and then by the assumptions they make based on their individual and shared experiences. I'm pretty sure I'll cash my check next week, if I get it, and I'm pretty sure I'll, get it, but I might not and the idea that a super physics computer would know is besides the point. If an infinite number of chimpanzees sits at an infinite number of keyboards and starts pecking away, you do not end up with a copy of War and Peace, though super physics would have to give it a probability of occurring, and since we are waiting for infinity, super physics won't come with an answer. But I can. An infinite number of chimpanzees clicking away at the keyboards ad infinitum gets an infinite amount of banana peels and an infinite amount of monkey shit and no War and Peace.
I forgot that Feigl taught at the the University of Minnesota, Mpls. (Recognized his description of the Mall and Northrop Auditorium.)
Deny these old Logical Positivists what you will, they sure had a clarity of thought and expression! What a contrast to the Continental philosophers and the Postmodernists.
So Feigl was a Compatibilist. Interesting!
at 71 years of age I look back and I know that throughout our lives we are influenced by our hormones much more than we realised at the time
I realize that on my 40s. Pheromones too
@@amargamentedoce In my 30s I realize this. Our genes (and environment) influence our thoughts and actions _completely_ and freedom is illusory.
Good old Feigl: Those guys knew how to do scientific philosophy!
If determinism was absolute, then I would be like a proton in a molecule, locked in until the energy came along to force me out. The proton does not demonstrate a separate constraint, a will separate from its fate (we suppose). But people make choices thousands of times a day. Routine is deceiving. We put our head on the same pillow, but we are a million miles away from where we and the pillow and the Earth were the last time we did it. Sameness is as real as determinism. If we perceive order then we are looking at design. Golf is designed, from the manufacturer of the ball to the grooming of the green. We get to hit the ball. We don't get to pick the weather. The skill we bring is not determinable. Super physics could predict the event maybe, as it was happening. That would be reporting, Not proving determination. Of course from Davidson we know that the event needs to be described in a way that has no resemblance to super physics. Quantum Mechanics may tell us how things are, but we can't understand it. Language is required long before something can be determined, and there are an infinite number of ways to say something. If it were random, I wouldn't be thinking of what to say, or do.
Science takes things down to least conditions. Extrapolating Science as an answer to big questions is to build a Tower of Babel. The higher you go, the further from the real you end up. If it seems like a paradox, it might be nonsense.
This guy would have benefited from reading the Holy Scriptures. He might find he has been mistaken and the question was already answered. It didn't wait for him and Quine to be agglutinated.
"We" cant do anything the brains doesn't "allow" us to do. The brain cannot do anything the environment it comes from doesn't allow it to do. The environment cannot do anything the initial conditions of the earlier universe didn't allow it to do. Life is as simple and complicated as that.
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52 minutes He is still going around in circles, but he is close. Maybe determinism is without meaning? Laplace supercomputer is itself a construction and in no way determinant. We are constrained, Protons and neutrons are constrained within atoms. Children are constrained initially by their utter infirmity and dependency, and then by the assumptions they make based on their individual and shared experiences. I'm pretty sure I'll cash my check next week, if I get it, and I'm pretty sure I'll, get it, but I might not and the idea that a super physics computer would know is besides the point. If an infinite number of chimpanzees sits at an infinite number of keyboards and starts pecking away, you do not end up with a copy of War and Peace, though super physics would have to give it a probability of occurring, and since we are waiting for infinity, super physics won't come with an answer. But I can. An infinite number of chimpanzees clicking away at the keyboards ad infinitum gets an infinite amount of banana peels and an infinite amount of monkey shit and no War and Peace.
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