Fun fact: Mansa Musa was, ostensibly, the single richest person to have ever lived. He was so rich, in fact, that he would ruin countries he visited with inflation due to the sheer amount of gold his court carried around. So all of this is pretty much entirely on point.
@@slightofham8372 This is hotly debated. Solomon probably existed, but it's unlikely he's as wealthy as depicted in the bible. Mansa Musa was definitely real and was wealthy on a level that makes Jeff Bezos look cute.
He was so bothered by the fact that he had basically screwed the lives of literally everybody in the Mediterranean that on his way back through after his pilgrimage he borrowed as much gold at high interest prices to rectify his mistake. It has gone down as the only time in recorded history that one man has single-handedly controlled the price of gold in the Mediterranean.
The year is 2050 The iron crabs have over run the world The last remnants of humanity have banded together and made their final stand in one lone city state Just as all hope is lost, in comes the king of Mali "Dont worry, I got this guys" Proceeds to build a nuclear bomb and tens of thousands of shock troopers 0 gold
now i'm just imagining the Apocalypse with giant metal crabs 30 humans left on the planet and mansa musa of mali just walks in and says "do not worry friends" (imagine vulkan from 40k tts) and just summons 500 giant death robots from the ether with an almighty " *WOLOLO* "
In CivBE, there was an exploit where if you traded with someone, and the trade ran out, the AI would request to renew the trade. What you could do is make them give you 1000 favors (an actual diplomatic resource), as the button would always be 'Accept'. You could then exchange these favors for their entire empire. Sadly they fixed this in the latest expansion.
18:22 When you moused over Germany's coal stockpile I think it said "They have reached their maximum capacity" or something along those lines. So they were agreeing to a deal and gaining the coal - which they physically didn't have room to store - and then it was bouncing back to you because they had nowhere to store it, but giving you the gold anyway. I have no idea how this helps in any way. I suspect it only makes the poor broken AI even dumber than we first thought it was, but I can at least wonder if that was why that particular transaction screwed up. The logic is bad and broken, but it's THERE at least... Maybe its a repeatable exploit and not just a glitch?
Germany isn't maxed out on coal. It literally says "You already have the maximum amount of this item" the second you linked. The reason he's not losing any coal imo is because his coal mines are producing more coal than he can store, so when he sells one, one gets transferred from his coal mine to his coal stash. I can just assume this only works until the coal mine production for this round is empty, which makes perfectly sence
@@firekeeper1870 incorrect, if you buy a unit while your stockpile is full, your stockpile will be filled with the overflow from the beginning of the turn. This is how it works in Singleplayer for sure, havent played multiplayer so I dont know about that.
In financial news. Today it was announced that the entire world stock market has collapsed when it was revealed that the international pass the parcel of global coal reserves has caused the coal to start spontaneously multiplying in transit.
So much of this game can hardly have been playtested. I think there is so much of the AI (and other stuff) that has just been hacked together with really lazy and shoddy coding. The same goes for so many small bugs. It's a *fucking turn based game* and they messed it up, the level of incompetence is unbelievable.
I mean in Civ 3 you could ask for 9999999999 gpt from an AI and they would say yes. You just had to cancel the deal before a stack overflow error reset you gold to negative. Civ has always had weird quirks with trading.
@@alt0248 They took a page out of Paradox' book and made them additive instead of multiplicative. I can't think of a single reason why they'd be additive and not multiplicative, and yet no less than two major grand strategy developers decided it was a good idea.
So by the end of this video you're loaning out resources that you don't actually have in exchange for money... congratulations... I see your Civilization has discovered banking!
@@TylerAndToast The AI and graphics and some other minor features maybe bad but overall it is a very good game and loads of fun if u r a civ enthusiast but will take time to learn if you don't know anything about civ. It has way more features than civ 5 and interesting scenarios. Ultimately the cost is the deciding factor. All expansion and DLC included is it really worth it? Your choice
@@nuclearwarlordgandhi7941 The AI is horrible, but graphics are a matter of taste. I actually like that cartoonish style. Some review of the AI for @TylerAndToast: Worst part of the AI is not these shown exploits (as they can be ignored), but the fact that it is overall completely incompetent and dumb in every way. Lower difficulty is no fun grind and higher difficulty games are always like this: You start behind (why they always do this, why not give equal starts and aid the AI more along the way?), deal with AI being assholes to you for the most random reasons and forward settling you before turn 10, get declared war a few times, beat their messy army with your inferior but organized one (at least you're no longer a warmonger for defending or even taking one city as a punishment), then keep catching up, overtake them and grind to a science victory because you have already invested so much to science to catch up. Domination is too slow to do since you have to stabilize conquered cities due to the loyalty system, diplomacy feels like a total bore, religious is nigh impossible if you have any religion oriented opponents (which you almost always do). Cultural victory could be a possibility depending on your opponents, but it's usually faster to grind the space race. So the biggest problem is that playing with the AI has a reverse difficulty curve, where the start feels unfair (because it is), you are even with the AI for a moment, and then it becomes a grind. Feels like firaxis has these problems with some other games too, namely XCOM series. But in XCOM games it makes sense as you are the underdog. In Civ you are supposed to start on an even ground. When it comes to exploits, it seems the AI is not properly coded to handle these new revamped strategic resources. It is also extremely annoying that sometimes when you have some new resources, every AI tries to offer a deal for multiple turns in a row, so you have to bash Esc for the whole time of waiting your turn to neglect their shitty offers. Otherwise the game is great for example for multiplayer where these problems don't matter, and if some mods get updated to GS compatibility (namely AI+), playing against AI might become more enjoyable. There is a No AI Start Advantage mod, but it might make it so that they fall behind almost right away, haven't tested that enough yet. Edit: There seems to be a Smoother Difficulty mod which decreases AI start bonuses and increases the long term ones. Definitely trying out that one.
@@nuclearwarlordgandhi7941 there is always the choice of buying the base game and as much expansions as you think they deserve money and pirating the rest, that is the modus operandi for games that go nuts with overpriced expansions and dlc
I’ve missed something: -25% democracy -25% military academy -20% unique suzerain bonus -20% unique civilization bonus = 90% gold discount on military units But he’s getting them for 0 gold (100% discount) I’m sure I just didn’t hear it or I looked away for a second but I’d appreciate someone pointing out the last 10%.
Thanks for the reminder to make myself some tea. I instantly paused the video and put on the kettle to make myself some. In about 5 minutes now my pot of decaffeinated darjeling will be ready. My good chaps, remember that regular milk makes your tea too watery; therefore, always use creamer or condensed milk.
4:29 Gobustan is pretty neato. Heres some wiki. "Gobustan Rock Art represents flora and fauna, hunting, lifestyles, and culture of pre-historic and medieval periods of time. The carvings on the rocks illustrates primitive men, ritual dances, men with lances in their hands, animals, bull fights, camel caravans, and picture of the sun and stars. The date of these carvings goes back to 5.000 - 20.000 years before." "One of the rocks has a Latin inscription belonging to the period of Roman Emperor Domitian’s reign (81-96 AD), which shows the temporary stay of the 12th Roman Legion led by Fulminate on the Caspian shores."
@@destroy141 Don't worry, you can easily finish what you need to do and then immediately start doing trade deals for the rest of the timer, I'm sure it's still perfectly exploitable.
Gatreh I’m sure you can still do this in multiplayer if you limit yourself per turn. Cause you can make it quick to do 6 to 8 of those deals per turn and still yield great results.
@@Gatrehs I meant to also add on that limiting it to 6 to 8 trades per turn is useful if you aren't on a timer. Helps keep the other player or players from figuring out what you're doing too soon.
this trade exploit is great for buying uranium and other tactical stuff. Ask to buy 1, they give you a price, then you change the amount you buy to 10 and they don't complain (usually) or want the price changed, but once the AI is at a stage where they need the resource you're buying from them it's limited how much you can squeeze out of them before they complain. It's really stupid that this exploit is very well documented and super easy to use, and Firaxis don't care. Like they just assume people won't take advantage of it when you can do it by accident?
You can in Revolution but on here I still need to solve it, or just get tourist or a high amount of that sweet sweet entertainment. I think a high entertainment or whatever it’s called let’s you buy cities. That or it’s religion.
I just played this game yesterday And I am pretty sure entertainment isnt a currency..l Amenity is the closest thing but i dont remember being able to buy anything with them
@@xxponyo7332 Entertainment is not a resource in Civ 6. You can, however, technically buy cities off of other nations. Practically, they won't sell them though, so the only actual ways to gain enemy cities are loyalty (if you have Rise and Fall/Gathering Storm) and war.
Few weeks ago, I started to drink black tea with milk instead of the inferior fruity ones I had before. Two days later, youtube started to recommend your videos. Coincidence? I think not.
Today, I made myself my Earl Grey and added a bit more milk than normally. And when I sat down and went to RUclips, I saw the video. What is it if not fate?
Also Mansa Musa reputedly sold and donated enough gold while on hajj to cause massive economic turmoil, then bought most of it back to solve the problem he created.
I think if you account for inflation he was the richest person ever, with the Rockefellers like waaaaaaaaay behind. Edit: I was corrected on this by Endermage77(see below) His pilgrimage includes 12000 slaves each carrying 4lbs of gold, 80 camels each carrying somewhere between 50-300lbs of gold dust, and heralds carrying solid gold staves and wearing all silk errthang. To quote wiki- "Musa's journey was documented by several eyewitnesses along his route, who were in awe of his wealth and extensive procession, and records exist in a variety of sources, including journals, oral accounts, and histories. Musa is known to have visited the Mamluk sultan of Egypt, Al-Nasir Muhammad, in July 1324.[23]. However, Musa's generous actions inadvertently devastated the economies of the regions through which he passed. In the cities of Cairo, Medina, and Mecca, the sudden influx of gold devalued the metal for the next decade. Prices on goods and wares greatly inflated. To rectify the gold market, on his way back from Mecca, Musa borrowed all the gold he could carry from money-lenders in Cairo at high interest. This is the only time recorded in history that one man directly controlled the price of gold in the Mediterranean."
The only man that came close was Jakob Fugger, the man who literally owned all trade in Europe Wikipedia values him at ~400 billion USD which is higher than Rockefeller by one or two orders of magnitude
I'd like to see Spiff break Victoria 2 you can do some pretty nutty things with the economy in that and I mean its named after one of his queens how could he not play it?
Paradox games are all 50% exploit by volume, he's done some good EU4, CK, & Stellaris shenanigans but he needs to do Vicky, HOI, & Imperator to complete the set!
@@ophidahlia1464 Been waiting for him to complete the lot of em of awhile now, like you said Paradox games are basically exploit city which always baffled me why he hasn't made breaking them his top priority.
The coding in Civ VI is clearly so hacked together, it's a giant fucking mess. For example, why would they not put more effort into an algorithm which evaluates the value of resources to the AI so they offer sensible deals? Because they couldn't be bothered, so they just hacked something arbitrary together. Why are there so many small bugs, like UI icons not updating after recent changes? Because everything is fucking hacked together. Why can units teleport across an entire mountain range using a single tunnel entrance/exit, and where you can even put battleships through? Because they couldn't be bothered to even fucking playtest it and think about whether that makes sense. Why is the AI so fucking stupid? Because it's easier to just give them more bonuses than actually get some competent programmers to do the AI. Why doesn't the Civolopedia always make the effects of certain things clear? Because they couldn't be bothered to think about it. And reducing the cost of a unit to 0%? Why don't percentage increase/decreases just multiply?!?!
@WoomyBlitz actually being console friendly does not excuse bad programming, good programming does not cost more computation resources, in fact it usually cost less science is more optimized
This is why I maintain that my personal favorite Civs are Revolution and 4. 4 had just the right amount of balance and challenge, Revolution had the right amount of simplicity for newcomers.
@@Rain_Beau because people are paying for a game that is broken. Why should someone make a mod that fixes the AI for free while people are paying the game's devs for doing basically shit AI? The devs are being paid to do their job, if their job is not being properly done then we have all the right to complain because WE ARE PAYING FOR THE GAME!
@@daniel4647 Earl Grey is the fuckin' tits. Lady Earl Grey is even better, it's got just a hint of lemon & orange peel. It's a Twinnings tea, which makes Twinnings better than Yorkshire (please no one tell Spiff I said that)
Democracy: -25% City State: -25% Unique District: -20% Drill Academy: -20% Total: - 90% Therefore everything is free? Is Civ6's maths as bad as their AI?
I haven't got the game, so I can't confirm this, but I'd assume those units have a default cost of less than 10 gold each. In that case, if the game rounds cost down instead of up, those units would cost 0 gold each.
-25% Democracy -20% Unique District -20% Barracks/Stable (City State bonus) -20% Armory (City State bonus) -20% Military Academy (City State bonus) That's a 105% discount the way the game calculates it. Incidentally, the cheaper training for Corps/Armies from the Military Academy does NOT reduce the cost to buy Corps/Armies with Faith/Gold.
Say it truthfully, you wanted to increase the tea trade by forcing the sea life to become tea addicts, hence helping the British Economy in the long run.
In possibly the most British move ever, the colonies' supply of tea has dropped by 15% literally overnight. In what may or may not be related news, the price of tea has risen by 15% literally overnight.
What can I say but hey, you're welcome! For the gold,the coal and the oil. Say hey, it's okay it's okay, you're welcome! Now out in the sun you're gonna toil!
It is the par for the course for this channel, but this is some next level exploits. I though me baiting Aztecs to declare surprise wars, beat their ass from fortified positions, raze a few cities then force them to give me 65 gold per turn for peace was exploiting.
I was expecting him to use that gold and free unit to something :L. Could we have not at least seen a utter invasion of everyone countries with a infinite supply of troups? D:
Actually Mali tried to colonise twice, their ships landed in South Africa the emperor died doing it. As a matter of fact if it wasn’t for the emperor going on the voyage mansa musa wouldn’t have been emperor.
> richest player in the game
>cant get access to tea
I see, so this is what british hell looks like.
I curse you to become the richest man on Earth, yet you will beg for tea. And never find it.
@@nuttyboi2281 i would not mind :P down with the tea
That's kind of the Brexit lol.
@_Krosis_ never NEVER
@_Krosis_ okay I will say tea is nice
"Would you be interested in a trade agreement with England?"
AI: /sweats profusely
AI: "Yes."
I read that in Elizabeth's voice
Spiff: would you like to give me ALL your gold every turn
Ai: um... uh...o...k
Spiff:good now do it agian
Caroline Johansen because he threatened them with a god fork
This is the worst trade deals in the history of trade deals.
Maybe ever.
The British trying to make terribly lopsided trade deals?
No, I can't think of any examples of that in recent history.
@@Healermain15 No, not at all.
Now you've piqued President Trump's interest, @@thespiffingbrit. lol
We're going to build a flood wall and make Russia pay for it.
Fun fact: Mansa Musa was, ostensibly, the single richest person to have ever lived. He was so rich, in fact, that he would ruin countries he visited with inflation due to the sheer amount of gold his court carried around. So all of this is pretty much entirely on point.
Nope. But close. King Solomon
@@slightofham8372 Who was King Solomon?
@@slightofham8372 This is hotly debated. Solomon probably existed, but it's unlikely he's as wealthy as depicted in the bible. Mansa Musa was definitely real and was wealthy on a level that makes Jeff Bezos look cute.
He was so bothered by the fact that he had basically screwed the lives of literally everybody in the Mediterranean that on his way back through after his pilgrimage he borrowed as much gold at high interest prices to rectify his mistake. It has gone down as the only time in recorded history that one man has single-handedly controlled the price of gold in the Mediterranean.
@@wanderinwolf3804 when you’re so powerful you can literally bankrupt a government by existing in their lands
Playing in multiplayer.
JOHN WHY ARE YOU TAKING 7 HOURS FOR YOU TURN
That's true
@@kingof4203 wow nice and edgy
The spiffing Brit breaking games is a good example of how the British Empire took over most of the world
Civilization: Robert Walpole edition
@@mattynaysh lmao
It was Walpole.
You seem to be quite angry. Let me sell you some glass beads to appease you.
Hey, Indian, sign this treaty. (Psyche!)
Nigerian Prince: What are you?
Mansa Musa: I'm you but stronger
*sells coal*
*immediatly buys coal back for tenth of the price*
STONKS
@Dimosthenis Karamparpas It is called toner
LocoCoco nah ink is hella expensive. Toner is much cheaper. I work for Cartridge World.
@Dimosthenis Karamparpas capacity is usually lower
The year is 2050
The iron crabs have over run the world
The last remnants of humanity have banded together and made their final stand in one lone city state
Just as all hope is lost, in comes the king of Mali
"Dont worry, I got this guys"
Proceeds to build a nuclear bomb and tens of thousands of shock troopers
0 gold
I think that "Hello crabs, would you like some coal and oil?" would be better :D
you forgot the giant death robot
Ethiopia 2 electric boogaloo. the bastion of humanity.
I, for one, welcome our new iron crab raverlords 🦀🦀🦀
now i'm just imagining the Apocalypse with giant metal crabs
30 humans left on the planet
and mansa musa of mali just walks in and says
"do not worry friends" (imagine vulkan from 40k tts)
and just summons 500 giant death robots from the ether with an almighty " *WOLOLO* "
*When you put all your skill points into barter*
speech 100
@@semtheprogamingmaster8610 Haggling 100
Sneak skill and barter skill 666, Devils luck for exploits
Luck 9999999999999999999999999999999999999999 fuck you fate
can relate
"This has been the worst trade deal in the history of trade deals, maybe ever"
- Everyone in the world, 1920 AD
No wonder 40 wars were started the very next turn
"So whose economy shall we cripple today?"
"I've managed to consume a very large amount of gin and tonic"
This mans. This mans, I can get behind.
Spends 10 min getting infinite money
Uses none of it
He's not getting infinite money, it's fair and *completly* legal trade
Rich people in a nutshell
I don't think the reason was to gain gold. The purpose was to deny gold to the other factions so they can't buy anything.
absolute madlad
Unit upkeep?
This is a S.C.A.M.M
Super Coal Agreement of Mansa Musa
could have just done of Mali for the nice clean S.C.A.M
Breaking news: Local man single-handedly revives the gold rush
Oh hey
You mean breaks the entire world economy?
@@aegisrvir9472 He re-introduced the gold standard
@@aegisrvir9472 Don't know if you knew but he actually crashed the economy around the Mediterranean for a long time.
hmmm
Civ VI game is so well written it even has international trade frauds. Amazing.
"THIS ISNT COCAIN......*takes massive line*.....ITS GLORIOUS TEA"!
**East India Company would like to know your location**
*China has blocked you*
ace combat meme identified
Ea would like to your location
East india company
You mean
*V e r e e n i d g e o o s t - i n d i s c h e c o m p a g n i e*
@@emttheindon3597
That one too to be fair, lmao
Wait, this works in multiplayer?!?!
*Evil laughter*
only with the AIs though
@@Spathephoros it works with my friends too- they play like bots
@@AftermathRV People always insult my bot brain
@@bosswilder4103 people always insalt my brain bot
Doesn't work any more. They must have patched it.
Spiff: Thank you for signing the worst deal you've ever signed, Germany
Treaty of Versailles: Am I a joke to you?
was thinking the same xD
I’m saying
The treaty of versailles looks like the best deal they've ever signed compared to the spiffing brit in civvi
Very similar considering both made them go bankrupt
"So whose economy shall we cripple today?"
I get the impression someone actually said this in a real world context and really meant it.
Jews perhabs?
I mean, the British and US did similar things. More along the lines of "what country has resources we need and can be coerced into giving it to us".
@@LuizAlexPhoenix the US learned how from us.
stalin?
Spiffing Brit could sell coal to coal miners.
as a northerner can confirm
He'd sell 1 coal for 2 coals per turn
Spiffing Brit could sell coal miners *their own* coal for 10 times its value.
Ftfy.
Pardox detected
He probably has a secret trade deal with Santa
An Englishman taking all of India's money through "fair" and "equal" trade, where have I heard this one before?
Just your imagination, never happened, move along now *sips from cup of tea*
Ya then imagine if the brits opened fire on innocent civilians do to them not wanting to be under British control. 😂😂😂😅🙁 Oh wait.
honestly though they weren't really innocent civilians they were throwing big ass stones at the brits, i probably would've also fired at them
@@deathshot11z55 hey, john Adams himself defended them in court.
Gandhi does not approve...
Spiff: *finds exploit*
Spiff: Sometimes my genious, its almost frightening
In CivBE, there was an exploit where if you traded with someone, and the trade ran out, the AI would request to renew the trade. What you could do is make them give you 1000 favors (an actual diplomatic resource), as the button would always be 'Accept'. You could then exchange these favors for their entire empire.
Sadly they fixed this in the latest expansion.
I haven't seen deals this one-sided since the Opium wars.
Shows how little you know of the world. Might want to read about the "bailouts" of the banks in 2008.
I like how he dissed Sumeria for claiming an island in the middle of the ocean... That is the most British thing I have heard about this game.
Cries in argentinian
Jealousy is a beautiful emotion....in others.
"So, Civilization 6 AI, show me on this doll where Spiff touched you"
"Sob... In my wallet"
Came here as fast as the british when they heard 'tea' and 'spices' during the colonial era
Who is worst? Brits when they crave for a tea or americans smelling an oil.
Yes@@foreignfat6009
@@foreignfat6009 Americans...
the only way a british craving for tea can go wrong is if SOMEONE dumps there tea into the ocea- oh.
For the curious: Gobustan is a place in Azerbaijan with a MASSIVE amount of rock carvings, from as far back as 20,000 BC.
FluffyRelic oooh...thankyou how splendid
Nice
Does it have tea?
No then mine the rock for clay for tea cups
This has been the worst trade deal in the history of trade deals, maybe ever.
You are fake news!
i.imgur.com/NmnPWcm.jpg
*_"I have altered the deal. Prey I won't alter it any further."_*
@@deptusmechanikus7362 this deal's getting worse all the time
Imagine how much money was spent on art and music and other visual elements... and the core gameplay is broken...
Spiff: *"I hope you've got your cup of tea!"*
Entire Fanbase: *_Sweating_*
I'll have you know, I have my tea right here.
I always feel a tad guilty when he asks that
Theo Marples Me: *Chugs some water*
I would like you to know I am drinking a nice Earl Grey
I have a bottle of water 😅 it's 4am
18:22 When you moused over Germany's coal stockpile I think it said "They have reached their maximum capacity" or something along those lines. So they were agreeing to a deal and gaining the coal - which they physically didn't have room to store - and then it was bouncing back to you because they had nowhere to store it, but giving you the gold anyway.
I have no idea how this helps in any way. I suspect it only makes the poor broken AI even dumber than we first thought it was, but I can at least wonder if that was why that particular transaction screwed up. The logic is bad and broken, but it's THERE at least... Maybe its a repeatable exploit and not just a glitch?
Germany isn't maxed out on coal. It literally says "You already have the maximum amount of this item" the second you linked.
The reason he's not losing any coal imo is because his coal mines are producing more coal than he can store, so when he sells one, one gets transferred from his coal mine to his coal stash. I can just assume this only works until the coal mine production for this round is empty, which makes perfectly sence
@@Astrobay13 You only gain resources at the begining of a turn, not during one.
@@firekeeper1870 incorrect, if you buy a unit while your stockpile is full, your stockpile will be filled with the overflow from the beginning of the turn. This is how it works in Singleplayer for sure, havent played multiplayer so I dont know about that.
oh god spiff what have you done
For someone who has played a good amount of Civ 6, you have made me realize I am doing it 100% wrong.
“Oh I do love cheesing the Germans out of all their resources” I didn’t know this was the treaty of Versailles
This reminds me of when East Berlin existed
AI, I have come to bargain.
Cheat Engine: "search values for gold"
Spiff: *Hold my tea.*
11:10 SPIFF: "is infinite money in civ V"
Me: Checks video description (CIVILIZATION 6 ...)
5:41 I for one welcome our crab overlord's
Our crab overlord's what?
every intellectual uses an incorrectly placed apostrophe or apostrophe's
@@besserwisser4055 thank you but I can just blame auto correct
@@m.d.9277 Why would autocorrect verschlimmbesser it, unless you did it incorrectly before?
Crabs should be banned!
wait he reduces the cost and they cost 0 so they should be paying you but there not. TREASON
In financial news. Today it was announced that the entire world stock market has collapsed when it was revealed that the international pass the parcel of global coal reserves has caused the coal to start spontaneously multiplying in transit.
I wonder how many of Spiff’s other Civ 6 videos have had the 100% flood mod installed.
Did they even take a cursory glance at how the trade actually functioned?
Did they even learn how compound discounts are supposed to work?
Clearly the functionality was outsourced to the British Government.
So much of this game can hardly have been playtested. I think there is so much of the AI (and other stuff) that has just been hacked together with really lazy and shoddy coding.
The same goes for so many small bugs. It's a *fucking turn based game* and they messed it up, the level of incompetence is unbelievable.
I mean in Civ 3 you could ask for 9999999999 gpt from an AI and they would say yes. You just had to cancel the deal before a stack overflow error reset you gold to negative. Civ has always had weird quirks with trading.
@@alt0248
They took a page out of Paradox' book and made them additive instead of multiplicative. I can't think of a single reason why they'd be additive and not multiplicative, and yet no less than two major grand strategy developers decided it was a good idea.
Coal of duty.
So by the end of this video you're loaning out resources that you don't actually have in exchange for money... congratulations... I see your Civilization has discovered banking!
@@thegreentrees9502 you're*
as in you are
@@SkylrKaosSol Wat? No, it's your. "I see you are Civilization" isn't grammatically correct.
When replying to grammar replies, it's important to look for "(edited)" after how long ago the relevant comment was posted.
@@cy5434 But what if he IS Civilization???
For online gameplay banking would be real fun without AI.
"Where is all the tea?!"
"We had to throw it away to make place for all this glorious coal."
The Australian government *at present* can definitely relate!
I don't normally drink tea, but when I do, I've been psy-oped into it by The Spiffing Brit.
(Organic Chai Black Tea)
Now do the same but gather all food for yourself instead of gathering gold like a capitalist
Great idea my comrade
Top ten anime couples
@@gw4792 *Sends to gulag*
@@frenchsoldier8485 Sends nuk(d)es
@@thespiffingbrit What can we say, WW2 ideologies stick around
Idk why people say this game has bad ai
Is this sarcasm? I've been thinking about picking it up, but that's one of the biggest downsides I've heard of.
@@TylerAndToast The AI and graphics and some other minor features maybe bad but overall it is a very good game and loads of fun if u r a civ enthusiast but will take time to learn if you don't know anything about civ. It has way more features than civ 5 and interesting scenarios.
Ultimately the cost is the deciding factor. All expansion and DLC included is it really worth it? Your choice
@@nuclearwarlordgandhi7941 The AI is horrible, but graphics are a matter of taste. I actually like that cartoonish style. Some review of the AI for @TylerAndToast: Worst part of the AI is not these shown exploits (as they can be ignored), but the fact that it is overall completely incompetent and dumb in every way. Lower difficulty is no fun grind and higher difficulty games are always like this:
You start behind (why they always do this, why not give equal starts and aid the AI more along the way?), deal with AI being assholes to you for the most random reasons and forward settling you before turn 10, get declared war a few times, beat their messy army with your inferior but organized one (at least you're no longer a warmonger for defending or even taking one city as a punishment), then keep catching up, overtake them and grind to a science victory because you have already invested so much to science to catch up. Domination is too slow to do since you have to stabilize conquered cities due to the loyalty system, diplomacy feels like a total bore, religious is nigh impossible if you have any religion oriented opponents (which you almost always do). Cultural victory could be a possibility depending on your opponents, but it's usually faster to grind the space race.
So the biggest problem is that playing with the AI has a reverse difficulty curve, where the start feels unfair (because it is), you are even with the AI for a moment, and then it becomes a grind. Feels like firaxis has these problems with some other games too, namely XCOM series. But in XCOM games it makes sense as you are the underdog. In Civ you are supposed to start on an even ground.
When it comes to exploits, it seems the AI is not properly coded to handle these new revamped strategic resources. It is also extremely annoying that sometimes when you have some new resources, every AI tries to offer a deal for multiple turns in a row, so you have to bash Esc for the whole time of waiting your turn to neglect their shitty offers.
Otherwise the game is great for example for multiplayer where these problems don't matter, and if some mods get updated to GS compatibility (namely AI+), playing against AI might become more enjoyable. There is a No AI Start Advantage mod, but it might make it so that they fall behind almost right away, haven't tested that enough yet.
Edit: There seems to be a Smoother Difficulty mod which decreases AI start bonuses and increases the long term ones. Definitely trying out that one.
@@TylerAndToast Have you... Watched the video?
@@nuclearwarlordgandhi7941 there is always the choice of buying the base game and as much expansions as you think they deserve money and pirating the rest, that is the modus operandi for games that go nuts with overpriced expansions and dlc
I’ve missed something:
-25% democracy
-25% military academy
-20% unique suzerain bonus
-20% unique civilization bonus
= 90% gold discount on military units
But he’s getting them for 0 gold (100% discount) I’m sure I just didn’t hear it or I looked away for a second but I’d appreciate someone pointing out the last 10%.
@warriorjames why doesn't it work on rise and fall because 60%(carthage suzerain) + 25%(democracy) + 25%(military academy) is 110%
There is actually a World Congress resolution that reduces purchase price by 50% too.
England doesn't want others to pay less. :D
Yeah, WC resolution is more reliable than finding this Ngorgasmmu CC.
*Violantly pressing F for the ol' Switcheroo*
Thanks for the reminder to make myself some tea. I instantly paused the video and put on the kettle to make myself some. In about 5 minutes now my pot of decaffeinated darjeling will be ready. My good chaps, remember that regular milk makes your tea too watery; therefore, always use creamer or condensed milk.
4:29 Gobustan is pretty neato. Heres some wiki.
"Gobustan Rock Art represents flora and fauna, hunting, lifestyles, and culture of pre-historic and medieval periods of time. The carvings on the rocks illustrates primitive men, ritual dances, men with lances in their hands, animals, bull fights, camel caravans, and picture of the sun and stars. The date of these carvings goes back to 5.000 - 20.000 years before."
"One of the rocks has a Latin inscription belonging to the period of Roman Emperor Domitian’s reign (81-96 AD), which shows the temporary stay of the 12th Roman Legion led by Fulminate on the Caspian shores."
Germany realises everyone's economies are buggered. Declares war on everyone screaming "SMASH AND GRAB!"
Accurate.
SMASHEN UND GRABBEN!!
@@onkelpappkov2666 HANZ LIVE UP TO YOUR NAME!!
Nein
Mansa Brought And spent so much Gold on his pilgrimage to Mecca that he single handedly plummeted the value of Gold in the area.
He had 600 slaves in the caravan. Each one carried 2 kilograms of gold. Also he had camels with 150 kilos of gold dust each.
Vatnam And the Camel Train went on for a full day, according to legend
Also, i’m pretty sure we’ve all watched Extra History here lol
I think you'd get shouted at for slow-play if you tried this in multiplayer
This is why I play with a timer online
@@destroy141 Don't worry, you can easily finish what you need to do and then immediately start doing trade deals for the rest of the timer, I'm sure it's still perfectly exploitable.
Gatreh I’m sure you can still do this in multiplayer if you limit yourself per turn. Cause you can make it quick to do 6 to 8 of those deals per turn and still yield great results.
@@DragonHeart53 Yeah thats... exactly what I was saying
@@Gatrehs I meant to also add on that limiting it to 6 to 8 trades per turn is useful if you aren't on a timer. Helps keep the other player or players from figuring out what you're doing too soon.
this trade exploit is great for buying uranium and other tactical stuff. Ask to buy 1, they give you a price, then you change the amount you buy to 10 and they don't complain (usually) or want the price changed, but once the AI is at a stage where they need the resource you're buying from them it's limited how much you can squeeze out of them before they complain. It's really stupid that this exploit is very well documented and super easy to use, and Firaxis don't care. Like they just assume people won't take advantage of it when you can do it by accident?
The real question is: can you turn this game into Spore and just buy every city? (Other than Capitols probably)
You can in Revolution but on here I still need to solve it, or just get tourist or a high amount of that sweet sweet entertainment. I think a high entertainment or whatever it’s called let’s you buy cities. That or it’s religion.
I just played this game yesterday
And I am pretty sure entertainment isnt a currency..l
Amenity is the closest thing but i dont remember being able to buy anything with them
Rainbow Paws weird, I bought a city with entertainment, might’ve been because it brought in tourist?
@@xxponyo7332 Entertainment is not a resource in Civ 6. You can, however, technically buy cities off of other nations. Practically, they won't sell them though, so the only actual ways to gain enemy cities are loyalty (if you have Rise and Fall/Gathering Storm) and war.
Just buy it with the blood of your comrades and enemies. That's how I do it...Persia has been silenced by the Motherland.
Few weeks ago, I started to drink black tea with milk instead of the inferior fruity ones I had before.
Two days later, youtube started to recommend your videos.
Coincidence? I think not.
Today, I made myself my Earl Grey and added a bit more milk than normally.
And when I sat down and went to RUclips, I saw the video.
What is it if not fate?
@@negativ7851 you freaking fiend, you dont drink earl grey with milk you drink it with lemon juice. It has to many citrus notes for milk.....
Tea in the morning. Gin in the afternoon. Pure captialism 24/7. Brilliant
What about vodka all day everyday that and potatoes
"Nationalism, Oh no, youtube won't like that one!" Haha brilliant! It's so true!
HAHAHAHAAHAHHAHHAAHHAAHAHAHHAHAHAHAAHHAHAAHHAHAHAHHA! the fck
I would like You to break Stellaris ;-)
He already has...
@@nicolaidavi495 Link please.
21:24 - So... What about the treaty of versailles? :D
My god. If this isn't quick fixed in 24 hrs gg multiplayer lul
It would be hilarious if it turned into the next Nuclear Gandhi.
It’s been almost a month
This bug has been around for ages. Most people that multiplayer seriously don't include AI.
@@tomfoolery4490 There can be only one of me. Anything that tries to replace me will be nuked out of existance.
"This is the worst deal you have ever signed, Germany"
I think the WWI reparations might contest that
Spiffing Brit: "I've played Civ 6."
Civ 6: "I'VE BEEN PLAYED!"
Is that emergency patching I hear over the horizon?
This is appropriate as Mansa Musa was supposed to have been one of the richest people on earth.
Also Mansa Musa reputedly sold and donated enough gold while on hajj to cause massive economic turmoil, then bought most of it back to solve the problem he created.
I think if you account for inflation he was the richest person ever, with the Rockefellers like waaaaaaaaay behind.
Edit: I was corrected on this by Endermage77(see below)
His pilgrimage includes 12000 slaves each carrying 4lbs of gold, 80 camels each carrying somewhere between 50-300lbs of gold dust, and heralds carrying solid gold staves and wearing all silk errthang.
To quote wiki- "Musa's journey was documented by several eyewitnesses along his route, who were in awe of his wealth and extensive procession, and records exist in a variety of sources, including journals, oral accounts, and histories. Musa is known to have visited the Mamluk sultan of Egypt, Al-Nasir Muhammad, in July 1324.[23]. However, Musa's generous actions inadvertently devastated the economies of the regions through which he passed. In the cities of Cairo, Medina, and Mecca, the sudden influx of gold devalued the metal for the next decade. Prices on goods and wares greatly inflated. To rectify the gold market, on his way back from Mecca, Musa borrowed all the gold he could carry from money-lenders in Cairo at high interest. This is the only time recorded in history that one man directly controlled the price of gold in the Mediterranean."
The only man that came close was Jakob Fugger, the man who literally owned all trade in Europe
Wikipedia values him at ~400 billion USD which is higher than Rockefeller by one or two orders of magnitude
@@endermage77 I had to look him up, but yeah. Thanks for the correction on that
The original Nigerian prince scam. From before the internet, just spamming coal.
I'd like to see Spiff break Victoria 2 you can do some pretty nutty things with the economy in that and I mean its named after one of his queens how could he not play it?
Paradox games are all 50% exploit by volume, he's done some good EU4, CK, & Stellaris shenanigans but he needs to do Vicky, HOI, & Imperator to complete the set!
@@ophidahlia1464 Been waiting for him to complete the lot of em of awhile now, like you said Paradox games are basically exploit city which always baffled me why he hasn't made breaking them his top priority.
The coding in Civ VI is clearly so hacked together, it's a giant fucking mess.
For example, why would they not put more effort into an algorithm which evaluates the value of resources to the AI so they offer sensible deals? Because they couldn't be bothered, so they just hacked something arbitrary together. Why are there so many small bugs, like UI icons not updating after recent changes? Because everything is fucking hacked together. Why can units teleport across an entire mountain range using a single tunnel entrance/exit, and where you can even put battleships through? Because they couldn't be bothered to even fucking playtest it and think about whether that makes sense. Why is the AI so fucking stupid? Because it's easier to just give them more bonuses than actually get some competent programmers to do the AI. Why doesn't the Civolopedia always make the effects of certain things clear? Because they couldn't be bothered to think about it.
And reducing the cost of a unit to 0%? Why don't percentage increase/decreases just multiply?!?!
@WoomyBlitz actually being console friendly does not excuse bad programming, good programming does not cost more computation resources, in fact it usually cost less science is more optimized
This is why I maintain that my personal favorite Civs are Revolution and 4. 4 had just the right amount of balance and challenge, Revolution had the right amount of simplicity for newcomers.
@WoomyBlitz "Console friendly" aye.. *pops Red Dead Redemption 2 disc into my "console"*.
@@Rain_Beau because people are paying for a game that is broken. Why should someone make a mod that fixes the AI for free while people are paying the game's devs for doing basically shit AI? The devs are being paid to do their job, if their job is not being properly done then we have all the right to complain because WE ARE PAYING FOR THE GAME!
@WoomyBlitz You were doing great until you said you didn't like Red Dead Redemption. *THAT'S NOT COOL MAAAAAAN!*
Daily reminder that the only good gold rush is a gold rush propelled by nukes and warcrimes
Capitalist pigs...
@@frenchsoldier8485 Commie barbarians...
@@AlphaOmega1237 You do realize we created super-heavy tanks, amphibious tanks, and the Assult Rifle... da?
@@frenchsoldier8485 and the third reich Made the Autobahn, helicopter, computer and the nuclear fission. Still not great
@@iminsecurebut1215 Tell me, who invaded Germany during WW2 when their East forces were frozen and pushed back?
24:11 Japan has the Triforce but not tea? What is this?
No, Japan got plenty o' teat...
@@kjj26kThen they were holding out on Spiff hehehe
All jokes aside, it is the Hojo Clan Emblem. But, Triforce does sound better.
@@yuuka4964 *Insert The More You Know meme* Huh, perhaps that was the inspiration for the Triforce?
I spit out my sweet tea when you said: "Nobody played Beyond Earth, I think that was its issue!"
Sorry but as a Canadian all I drink is maple syrup
A socialist comrade I see
Yes, we must cause a revolution to have a Communist Canada
As a Canadian I can agree with this, all we drink is maple syrup and all we eat are Timbits.
Yes but it isn't pure its soiled with water and British things
Wow those deals were even worse for the Germans than the treaty of Versailles
You have yet surpassed your exploiting limits oh migthy Spiff. I pick my hat. You should be named sir by the Queen after this.
I'm late to this party. But I'm definitely drinking Yorkshire tea after all these videos.
How is it?
@@KuueenKumi It doesn't have any bergamot like Earl Grey, it's just pure tea which makes it kinda bitter, it's a lot like a coffee version of tea.
@@daniel4647 Earl Grey is the fuckin' tits. Lady Earl Grey is even better, it's got just a hint of lemon & orange peel. It's a Twinnings tea, which makes Twinnings better than Yorkshire (please no one tell Spiff I said that)
Democracy: -25%
City State: -25%
Unique District: -20%
Drill Academy: -20%
Total: - 90%
Therefore everything is free?
Is Civ6's maths as bad as their AI?
I haven't got the game, so I can't confirm this, but I'd assume those units have a default cost of less than 10 gold each. In that case, if the game rounds cost down instead of up, those units would cost 0 gold each.
-25% Democracy
-20% Unique District
-20% Barracks/Stable (City State bonus)
-20% Armory (City State bonus)
-20% Military Academy (City State bonus)
That's a 105% discount the way the game calculates it.
Incidentally, the cheaper training for Corps/Armies from the Military Academy does NOT reduce the cost to buy Corps/Armies with Faith/Gold.
what about the Leeve en Masse
@@BalkothWarcraft Ah, thanks dude, appreciate you clearing that up! :)
@@khhnator Is for individual unit maintenance reduction of 2(?) per turn.
10:54 i cracked my cup of tea witnessing your incredible bartering skills
they really took their time to polish this masterpiece game to its best shape!
"thank you for signing the worst deal you ever* signed, Germany"
*Treaty of Versailles not included
I am drinking the classic
Hot water with sugar as I can not afford anything else.
'nothin' tea. Boil hot water and add nothin'
@@thespiffingbrit We need more Vodka
@TheIrishP0tato ( offers bottle of vodka )
The Spiffing Brit
I would appreciate that
Sell coal. Then buy it back. Then sell it back
Whith my 100s of hours I never noticed this
only works in new dlc
This is it. We’ve reached PEAK CAPITALISM!!
"Good, from here on capitalism must go down." - Karl Marx
We will never truly reach peak capitalism, there's to much exploiting.
You can hear the moment around 18:07 where Spiff transitions from mock 'Isn't this amusing?' into genuine 'What is this thing I have discovered?!'
I couldn't stop laughing at the absurdness of the AI. Good job.
Crap I left my tea in the Boston Harbor.. ehh whatever.
Say it truthfully, you wanted to increase the tea trade by forcing the sea life to become tea addicts, hence helping the British Economy in the long run.
Being a Merkin you can always fall back on your Meth reserve.
In possibly the most British move ever, the colonies' supply of tea has dropped by 15% literally overnight. In what may or may not be related news, the price of tea has risen by 15% literally overnight.
Well, i can't play civilization anymore.
Thanks a lot !
u welcome
What can I say but hey, you're welcome!
For the gold,the coal and the oil.
Say hey, it's okay it's okay, you're welcome!
Now out in the sun you're gonna toil!
Literally just finished my cup of tea before starting this video.. now I have to pause and make another one before continuing the rest of the video
MyNameIsSteveYesitis remember to salute the picture of the queen before watching
It is the par for the course for this channel, but this is some next level exploits. I though me baiting Aztecs to declare surprise wars, beat their ass from fortified positions, raze a few cities then force them to give me 65 gold per turn for peace was exploiting.
I was expecting him to use that gold and free unit to something :L. Could we have not at least seen a utter invasion of everyone countries with a infinite supply of troups? D:
archerman deathyou but then there would be nobody to get infinite money from
I'm drinkig a very nice tea made of a beautiful thing that os coffe beans.
@@thespiffingbrit i just can not stop drinking coffe but i Will try teatro someday betwen today and the day that my life ends.
I think the “Make Trade More Equitable” exploit was in Civ Rev! And one of the Total War games that is over 10 years old now! Well done devs!
Actually Mali tried to colonise twice, their ships landed in South Africa the emperor died doing it. As a matter of fact if it wasn’t for the emperor going on the voyage mansa musa wouldn’t have been emperor.
5:54 "I've discovered most of the others A.I. out there"
Your secret's been revealed
its pronounced hakunamatata