David Goldman: US-China Competition, AI, Electric Vehicles, and Manufacturing - #36

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  • Опубликовано: 7 ноя 2024

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  • @SwazzerProductions
    @SwazzerProductions Год назад +92

    1:14:46 David Goldman is better than a lot of his peers on his understanding of China, but his final remark exposes the deep American exceptionalism that is the root of all problems in the China-US relationship. No, China does not need to look to the US for inspiration in governance, if anything, the US should look to China for some inspiration in solving some of their societal issues.

    • @The136th
      @The136th Год назад

      No, he know it every well, but he also know what he can't say. He can't say that Chinese institution and economic theories are superiors to the West

    • @davidchou1675
      @davidchou1675 Год назад

      He's ultimately just another Westoid and believes the B.S. about a benevolent Pax Americana -- which he openly States right here is just how he wants things to remain....

    • @kooisengchng5283
      @kooisengchng5283 Год назад +3

      He is an american Jew. He has no choice but to follow the narrative that US is still the world's no1 for governance, when it is not. US is ridden with schisms which are threatening to tear the country apart. China's political culture is based on political stability and consensus which lead to cohesiveness. That way the country can pull together to go forward. Much like a symphonic orchestra. Everyone plays the same tune, the same way, the way as directed by the conductor.

    • @sweetaznspice1
      @sweetaznspice1 8 месяцев назад

      Both, and all other countries can learn from another as there are no perfect political/economic systems, or anything near it as long as we're human beings with subjective cultural norms endowed with certain historical forces which have shaped the respective nations.

  • @zongliangwu7461
    @zongliangwu7461 Год назад +56

    Goldman is very knowledgeable on issues related to China. I agree with most of his judgements, except his conclusion remark that China needs US as a political system aspiration. The US political system is broken and needs profound reforms.

    • @fangzification
      @fangzification Год назад +4

      I think they can take certain institutions that are effective (or effective in a certain context) and apply those rather than adopting everything wholesale.

    • @arminius6506
      @arminius6506 Год назад

      @@fangzification American soft coercion technique against its own masses and brainwashing most of it people are very effective.
      As far as political system is concerned, any political system which took the richest, most powerful and most advanced country in the history of mankind and made it into an unliveable dystopia (what USA is today) is anything but appreciateable

    • @davidchou1675
      @davidchou1675 Год назад +5

      Such as?
      Seriously curious what the U.S. does right compared to China, actually.

    • @davidchou1675
      @davidchou1675 Год назад

      Very little indeed! Ultimately Westoids are mostly idiots and so select the worst amongst themselves to be leaders -- whereas in China, there's a whole decades-long apprenticeship in good governance before assuming the highest levels of power!

    • @nomisage
      @nomisage Год назад +1

      Due process, no arbitrary imprisonment, more transparency, stronger judicial system.
      Although I agree China is very efficient in what they do, they have a lot of improvements to make.

  • @SwazzerProductions
    @SwazzerProductions Год назад +11

    1:05:01 David Goldman lays it out so clearly yet many in the West pretend to not hear…

  • @mistman5640
    @mistman5640 Год назад +8

    I can see David's point that a strong USA offering tough competition to China is good for China. Because at the end of the day, it will make China stronger.

    • @HTeo-og1lg
      @HTeo-og1lg Год назад

      China has a long way to go. It is still below average in gdp per capita metric.

    • @dalao2yang
      @dalao2yang Год назад +4

      ​@@HTeo-og1lgyes, you are right. China is still a developing country. Per capita GDP way lower than most of the western countries. I think some eastern European countries too. I don't know why everyone lost their mind about China came up a little. Yellow pirrow is a real thing I guess

    • @davidchou1675
      @davidchou1675 Год назад

      Chinese per capital income is deliberately kept low.

    • @lycao7451
      @lycao7451 Год назад +2

      What doesn’t kill you make you stronger

  • @scy9272
    @scy9272 10 месяцев назад +5

    Democracy: Government of the people for the people, not necessarily a multiparty system!

  • @cabasadefogo9533
    @cabasadefogo9533 Год назад +23

    I agree with 95% of Goldman says. However when it comes to governance comparison he is woefully misinformed. We the US currently have an extremely inefficient, ineffective government, controlled by the 0.1%. Not my words but conclusions of a multiyear study by Princeton University. Our leaders are almost all lawyers with zero understanding of diplomacy, technology, or history. While the Chinese have an exceptionally well oiled and run governance system that takes into account of opinions and desires of the ppl on the group and local level. And, they are continuously refining that system while we are beholden to a document written more than 200yrs ago by a bunch of old white men.

    • @davidchou1675
      @davidchou1675 Год назад +1

      As Professor Jane Golley from Australia has observed, China's created a new and unique political economy that bears considerable study.
      But Westoids are too busy attacking China to see what they can learn -- instead they just scoff and then panic, crying "unfair!"

  • @rossmullins8708
    @rossmullins8708 22 дня назад

    Supurb views of a gifted pragmatist. I throughly enjoyed Mr. Goldman’s views and perspectives.

  • @orangutan4696
    @orangutan4696 Год назад +11

    David Goldman seems to think China is too old to change. Frozen in time. I totally disagree with him.

  • @billhammett174
    @billhammett174 8 месяцев назад

    David is idea-driven as well as a realist... and always entertaining and worth listening to...

  • @danapeck5382
    @danapeck5382 Год назад +2

    Always cogent and humorous analysis from Goldman, much appreciated

  • @marchess286
    @marchess286 Год назад +1

    I subscribed after 25 seconds based on the combination of interview w/Goldman/Spengler and Blade Runner bumper music. I've been learning from Goldman since 2001. He is 150% right 85% of the time.

    • @drlobomalo
      @drlobomalo 9 месяцев назад

      The music is lot like that of Miles Davis.

  • @Main.Account
    @Main.Account 5 месяцев назад

    Brilliant discussion. Really enjoyed.

  • @stvdmc2011
    @stvdmc2011 Год назад +2

    Great interview and discussion. Nothing worst then a war based understanding.

  • @SwazzerProductions
    @SwazzerProductions Год назад +5

    1:12:17 Ah yes… everyone’s favourite China hawk Elbridge Colby. I’m surprised David Goldman is an acquaintance of Colby.

    • @etbuch4873
      @etbuch4873 Год назад

      Why any surprise? Ain't it always the way as things go -- perverts of a flock grope women from behind and down under the same was as Donald?

    • @davidchou1675
      @davidchou1675 Год назад +5

      Goldman is not exactly a friend of China's, after all.

  • @HTeo-og1lg
    @HTeo-og1lg Год назад +8

    The book title is so wrong. It is quite a fear-mongering title. What is it's purpose? To sell the book? Surely, he doesn't need the money.

  • @PhilipWong55
    @PhilipWong55 11 месяцев назад +1

    Clash of two different mindsets.
    Realist Scarcity mindset: Fear of losing something, anxiety about not having enough, insecurity about lacking security, and greed for more. It always strives for a win-lose outcome, where one's gain is someone else's loss. Obama's Pivot to Asia: "If over a billion Chinese citizens have the same living patterns as Australians and Americans do right now, then all of us are in for a very miserable time. The planet just can't sustain it." Destined for war.
    The benefits of democracy for the world's richest and most powerful country include economic inequality, inflation, stagnant real wages for the last forty years, costly healthcare, an expensive education system, student loan debt totaling $1.7 trillion with an average balance of $38,000, racial inequality, mass incarceration, the militarization of police, deteriorating infrastructure, housing affordability, homelessness, the opioid epidemic, and gun violence.
    The form of democracy practiced in the U.S. results in social and economic policies that may not be as beneficial for the poorer eighty-eight percent of the population. These policies stem from a scarcity mindset. Politics determines how wealth is distributed within a country.
    Idealist Abundance mindset: Cooperation, resource-sharing, and win-win outcomes. War is avoidable.
    It was cheaper for China to buy reliable Western chips, benefiting both sides. China spends more on chip imports than on oil. The sanctions prompted China to invest in its own supply chain. Local manufacturers are now more willing to use the perceived less reliable local chips. When self-sufficient, China can provide the world with cheaper chips, while the West and its allies lose access to both the Chinese and global markets.
    The US is developing its own supply chain, but without access to a large market, it cannot be competitive.
    The US is leaving no knees untouched in its Tonya Harding competition strategy.
    The Chinese government had little success in being self-sufficient in technology; they are very grateful to the US for pushing them towards self-sufficiency. Thanks to the US, China now has its own GPS system and space program.
    Continuation of US Foreign Policy to keep Asia poor and chaotic.
    February 24, 1948, Declassified U.S. Foreign Policy:
    Furthermore, we have about 50% of the world’s wealth but only 6.3% of its population. This disparity is particularly great as between ourselves and the peoples of Asia. In this situation, we cannot fail to be the object of envy and resentment. Our real task in the coming period is to devise a pattern of relationships which will permit us to maintain this position of disparity without positive detriment to our national security. ... that Japan and the Philippines will be found to be the corner-stones of such a Pacific security system and that if we can contrive to retain effective control over these areas there can be no serious threat to our security from the East within our time.

    • @KayyHong
      @KayyHong 3 месяца назад

      The U.S. employs the Tonya Harding strategy rather than focus on making oneself better!

  • @wongcilik5960
    @wongcilik5960 Год назад +5

    How do you want to compete ? What did America win over China? the national debt is as high as the Himalayas, unemployment is also the same, the supply chain has broken, banks are bankrupt, ancient infrastructure,technology is lagging behind n riots and homeless have occurred everywhere, very shamelessssssssssssssssssssss.😭😭😭

    • @gkmail8718
      @gkmail8718 Год назад

      USA is still the greatest nation in propaganda and its people believe in it.

    • @davidchou1675
      @davidchou1675 Год назад

      All the West needs to be exponentially degraded worse than even the Qing ever were and certainly broken up way beyond what happened to the Soviet Union -- thus to tyrants!!

  • @hellodroid3394
    @hellodroid3394 8 месяцев назад

    You have way too many ads!! Why?

  • @Tim.Reader
    @Tim.Reader Год назад +1

    Can someone who listened to the whole thing tell me whether they discuss the so-called “World War on Terror” or “Global War on Terror”, and if so, leave a timestamp?

    • @etbuch4873
      @etbuch4873 Год назад +2

      More than "a" timestamp is needed.
      43:23 (the second world war),
      50:18 (the third world war),
      1:09:31 (World War One).

    • @Tim.Reader
      @Tim.Reader Год назад

      @@etbuch4873 Wow. Sincere thanks!

    • @davidchou1675
      @davidchou1675 Год назад

      Why are you asking about the GWOT when this video is about China?
      I think I know but I'd like to hear it from you directly, please.

  • @aslampervez2294
    @aslampervez2294 Год назад +1

    Thanks. Please do a video again with jon y asianometry

    • @davidchou1675
      @davidchou1675 Год назад +2

      That guy just does book reports. And he's all for Taiwan independence -- no need to support him.

  • @kutfingertv814
    @kutfingertv814 Год назад +3

    Around 36.00 mark, he's right and didn't mention Chinese Robot density overtook the U.S. earlier this year (2023). And there is probably nothing stopping them getting up to the Robots per 1000 workers that Southern Korea has.
    Edit: But I think the point about Chip nanometerage being larger on weaponsh shystemsh ish alsho important in regardsh to long term shupply. Computersh later than mid 90'sh need vasht amountsh of Helium to prodoosh. Helium ish bashically a shingle ushe thing, unlike shay gold, which can be re-melted. Leaksh into the atmoshphere. Sho the long term future of computersh ish like early 2000'sh Nokiash (350nm) as opposhed to shmart phonesh (35nm) anyway (do your own reshearch, I'm shtill fact checking thish).

  • @davidchou1675
    @davidchou1675 Год назад

    I, for one, welcome our new Chinese overlords. XD

  • @laifongleng4414
    @laifongleng4414 6 месяцев назад

    The Aquarian Conspiracy sprang from a Policy Report prepared by the Stanford Research Institute Center for the study of Social Policy.
    The aim of the Standard study, state the authors, is to change the desire of mankind from that of industrial progress to one that embraces "spiritualism." (War by non-violent confrontation)
    " The study asserts that, in our present society, the 'image of industrial and technological man' is obsolete and must be 'discarded.'
    Therefore, the Stanford study concludes that they have to change the industrial technological image of man fast.

  • @qake2021
    @qake2021 10 месяцев назад

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    • @qake2021
      @qake2021 10 месяцев назад

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  • @orangutan4696
    @orangutan4696 Год назад +1

    David Goldman is correct about the old China and Chinese in general. However Mao has transformed China into a modern China of Confucius with Marx Christian values culture that China never have in her 5000 yrs civilization. Today unofficially, 10 % of Chinese are Christian. Again, that is a first in Chinese civilization. To me, “life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness” is better describe about today Chinese than today Americans. We Americans need to confess and repent now, for we had been unfaithful to our Father God and our fellowmen.

  • @Po-village-chief
    @Po-village-chief 10 месяцев назад

    excellent analysis