Honda WTF Were You Thinking?!
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- Опубликовано: 9 июн 2024
- £47,000 for THIS?!
This is the all NEW Honda E:NY1. It comes with a big price tag and one BIG disappointment…
Join Tish as she takes it for a spin and gives you her brutal opinions on the SUV.
0:00 Honda’s electric history
1:14 Meet the Honda E-NY1
3:13 Look familiar? 🤔
5:45 The platform
6:31 Boot space
7:51 Rear seats
9:04 Front Interior
12:45 WTF is this…
13:40 First drive
14:01 Charging
14:35 A slight concern
16:40 Yet ANOTHER issue…
17:41 Wait, I actually like this feature
18:20 Have I been too harsh?
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£44k to £47k? When a Model Y costs from £44,990 and a Model 3 from £39,990? It will be interesting to see if they sell any of these at all.
I agree it's too much, but why does everyone say "you could get a Tesla for that price". Not everyone wants a Tesla, I would much rather have a honda.
Because Tesla are setting the price. With this vehicle Honda are offering a much worse car for more money. What is concerning is that many of the legacy manufacturers will not survive the next few years if the best they can offer is this and people such as yourself will only have a Tesla or a BYD to choose from.@@timscott3027
@@timscott3027 Hyundai Kona might be a good alternative cheaper and same range with more space
Tesla don't hold a candle to Honda in terms of quality, and people care more about quality than gimmicky touchscreens.
You think that the only thing a Tesla have got to shout about is a touch screen? Really? @@Olliebobalong
Charge point - I've had a lot of EVs now over the last 10 years and actually find the front port to be the easiest to use in my experience
In theory, easier to get into, but harder to get out of. Some of the Tesla super chargers around me are pull through for towing. It is a huge time saver to not need to unhook a trailer which you would need to do with either pull up or back in charging.
I also prefer how Tesla hides the charge port under the tail light segment. Just looks clean.
Price will kill this car. With the C3 due to land soon its pokes apart. £47k for me equals Tesla, polestar etc
and Tesla's cheaper!
They don't want to sell it.
I'm sure brand loyalty will get them some sales and you would think the reputation for reliability may account for a few more. The problem with the reliability aspect is that EV's tend to be a lot more reliable anyway, because there is so much less that can go wrong. I think this will count against them where reliability is concerned in the short term and where brand loyalty is concerned in the longer term, because much of that brand loyalty also stems from reliability. I currently have a Kona Electric, which is cheaper and in some respects better. There are quite a few cars that I am considering for when I replace and this is not going to be anywhere near the list.
Honda are being very bold pricing this at 43K! Esp when you can get a new (from inventory) Tesla Model Y for the same price
we brought it from china way cheaper like 29thousand dolars and it has an rear view mirror camera too exactly same way cheaper
Many other reviewers said the Kia Niro EV and Hyundai Kona EV are much better values than this SUV and offer more amenities!
Or is that amendities? :-)
The EV6 GT is easily the best EV on the market right now. I've driven every EV other than Fisker, Lucid, and Polestar, and I daily a 2015 Leaf. The EV6 GT is just awesome. I will say, nothing is as comfortable to drive so far as my Leaf. Nissan got everything right with the post 2013's.
Unfortunately, at that price point, this isn’t going to sell very well. At least there’s a Honda you can choose now… 🤷🏻♂️
More Tish! 👏🏻🙂
My husband and I both love Honda but I reluctantly left when I switched to an EV 4 years ago (as they didn’t have an EV/practical EV offering). My husband will be moving from his Honda to an EV too next year and we are disappointed to see that Honda STILL haven’t delivered an EV in a mid-range price bracket. Not only that, this new offering is yet another EV SUV style. If they electrified the Jazz, Civic or designed a purpose-built smart looking non-SUV style medium sized car in a competitive price bracket then we’d both be straight back to Honda. Their ICE engineering and reliability is fantastic as is the customer service at the dealerships, but it feels Honda have still not committed to putting in the R&D needed to convincingly break into the EV market 😢.
I don't think you were too harsh at all, it's a mediocre car at best. If that had been 10k cheaper I'm sure your overall opinion would have been more positive (well, except for those rear sunroof covers) but not at that price. I wouldn't have one.
You've hit the nail on the head there John, £10k less and I would have sung it's praises!
Will someone buy that poor girl some decent trousers?
How disappointing. Also worrying, as I'd have fancied one in principle, but I can't see this model retaining its resale value in the face of incoming competition. Such a pity.
Same price as a Tesla Y? They are nuts if they think this competes with any of the big names.
I love the Honda E great value used.
a proper FUN car!
If you enjoy trips to end of your cul de sac and back, its range is fine.
for that price I would buy Enyaq every single time
Great review Tish. Why is a middle of the road Chinese built Honda £43k? For less money I could have a Skoda Enyaq with more space and 80 miles more range
Skodas not really a Honda though big difference 😊
@@sunsetlights100 that's fair, the Enyaq is much nicer 😉
Actually you were pretty softball considering the price point. What I’m sensing is a lack of commitment by Honda. Not even trying to include front storage is especially annoying. High price mediocrity isn’t going to cut it. Predicting lackluster sales at best.
Storing the charge cables underneath all your luggage seemed particularly impractical.
Thank you for your review...I Agree ...We've waited a long time for a Honda EV. Unfortunately, this one falls short.The range isn't too bad, but the DC charge rate is very slow, particularly given the class Honda is competing with. The E:NY1 is also too pricey given its specs. The US market has a lot of loyalty to Honda. Hopefully they will continue to up their game.
Too many instances of "it's a shame" or "it's a bit disappointing" let's face it, it's a MASSIVE miss from Honda. Too expensive, bland and lacking design and forethought. Overall its a very expensive mistake.
The honda E was a an insult, this here is injury.
I saw one of these in the shop already, the front took a small hit and the charge door wouldn't open. Front end collision is the most common...so ...
The price is a faking joke, £45K for a B-SUV.
Awesome video! I love your humor and writing in this video!
Hey Trish what camera are you using it seems a bit blurry unless I need some glasses
Enjoyed the review, thanks 👍🏻
Those roof cards look like the ones on my cooker extractor hood😂😂
Charging port location: I have grown accustomed to having a right rear charging port on our VW Buzz. A month before the car arrived we had a charger installed knowing this port location. For over 30 years we have fronted into a carport, and through force of habit wanted to continue this. For most people, some port locations are more appropriate than others. The worst for us, would have been a left rear port. Our charger location actually serves a right front or centre front location optimally, because the charger was placed at the right front of the vehicle when it is parked. A left front position would have been equally good for us.
Left front and right rear are the worst possible locations. Tesla have the cheapest public chargers, they’re reliable etc. But if your charge port is at the front left or rear right, you’ll take up 2 or 3 stalls to charge 1 car
@@iambenmitchell Thx for your comment, because it is difficult for me to realize that people regularly use or are dependent on Superchargers. My mind says they are useful on longer trips, but nothing more. In three days it will be 9 months since we took delivery of Buzz. We have still not used a Supercharger or equivalent. In fact, we have only once charged anywhere except our house, at a hotel which provided an ordinary 10A socket that used about 15 hours to charge Buzz.
@@BrockMcLellan as someone who's 20 years old.. the chances of me being able to rent a house.. let alone one with a driveway to charge on is miniscule. All manufacturers should agree on a side anyway for charging.. like they did with the charge port
@@iambenmitchell Thanks for even more enlightenment, about the situation younger people are in! Best wishes. I agree that there should have been agreement about the charge port.
Late to the party. I've owned an Accord and a Civic and they were both completely hassle free. And that has it's price. Not too many car brands can claim that.
And Tish has really become UK's greatest car journalist , completely bs free.
Nice review. Loved the blue colour and that's about it.
Hope you can get your hands on a Toyota Rav4 Prime for a review.
I'd much rather have a Kia Niro Ev or a Hyundai Kona that this. Honestly this is way overcosted or way under cooked. Pass. Great review Tish.
I've seen far many more people struggle with charging ports that are NOT at the front of the car. We have 2 Nissan Leaf's and have never had any problems other than parking in the wrong bay of a dual charging station. Swarco are topical of this where the cable is too short for the second bay so you end up moving, unless a Audi moves in a lighting speed and jumps the cue!! Al these excuses car manufactures make about charging ports at the front is nonsense, because you have so much tech these days to avoid front end bumps, or are they saying there collision tech is not up to the task? When you siad £47k car, I switch off and moved no!!
Are you sure about the electric opening charge port? The action looks like that of a damped glovebox opening.
Great review again Tish, best reviewer IMO. I really like Honda and I think fans of any brand will look past some shortcomings (Tesla?). Dare I say some shortcomings give a car some character you grow to love. But I’m a motorcyclist so there’s always shortcomings… I mean character involved.
I express my opinion only:
I got Honda before and been impressed by it, so thought lets give a try...On video this car looks great... but when I sit in dealership, somehow feeling there like traveled back in time, just that screen in middle saying smth. Me and my family tried to sit at back, but theres feeling like you sit in hospital waiting room.
Did not even bothered for test drive, got enough impression by sitting there.
Completely different story in Toyota Bz4x. In driver seat feeling like sitting in fighter jet and somehow theres feeling from inside that car is small and easy to drive in parking lot. Back seats are dream, like luxury car, fancy. Space there like in dancing floor, enormous.
No test drive needed, ordered spontaneously.
Its just my opinion and feelings.
Love the blue. A very nice minimalistic design. Too bad we don't get this car in the USA yet.
A former girlfriend bought a Fiat Punto in the same colour because she liked the colour so much. Funnily I was telling her to buy a Honda Jazz and was proved right by the speed at which the Fiat fell apart.
Stupid name and stupid price. Good video
Anyone who lives in a snowy region will tell you the charge port should not be in the front. It's like CCS. Everyone wants to be different, when NACS is the clear winner. Just give us a normal EV that isn't screwed up for a decent price. Once upon a time, Honda was a great value.
hi! Very general comments of this car. Although we do not have sunroof in Far East area. That your overview do make me learn more if this is best buy electric car. Cheers!!
Not harsh enough, I can't see these selling well with the far superior competitors
so what is under the front bonnet then?!
Even with your negative points.. I like it
Genuinely I am pleased to hear that Steve!
The question where the charge port should be: It should be in the dead centre in the front. The plug should pop up and one should be able to drive it directly into the plug in the garage without having to get out of the car.
In some countries you can buy cars for the Chinese market (enp1/ens1). I bought the basic version with a smaller battery for €21300. And for this price it's just a fantastic car
Awe Tish come on. You know the Honda e was not mainstream and it certainly was not one of the first electric mainstream cars. That was the Nisssn Leaf and the Renault Zoe.
.... 2014 California Fiat 500e, Chevy Spark EV, ESPECIALLY 2017 Chevy Bolt (Ampera?) etc.
Not keen tbh, too expensive and some very odd things like the sun shade plus dull looks. Honda need to do something about their reducing market share in the UK
U.K. market share certainly isn't anything Tesla has to worry about. They seem to be as common as BMW 3 series were a decade ago (very common if you are wondering).
Won’t be out of my Honda E for this , it’s got wing mirrors, so yesterday 😮
i just bought one for the missus, its on sale for 31.5k £ in Denmark, for that price it beats everything ive driven so far.
Looks like a BYD Atto3 imitation with higher price.
Great review. Tough, but fair.
8.28 "infaaaaaeeect." I always thought that when people imitate this accent, they are overdoing it...but she actually speaks like this.
That rear roof screen…. Wow… my 2015 Smart forfour has double retractable blinds…. And Honda like to bang on about their “engineering prowess? Tell me you’re penny pinching without telling me your penny pinching
That ridiculous cover for the rear panoramic roof is a complete deal breaker on a 40k+ for me.
Regardless of its location a charging port that requires electricity to access it is a bad idea. In the model shown it's unnecessarily complex because an NAC connector would fit behind the Honda badge.
At least you guys got this. In North America we get the Honda Prologue; aka the Chevrolet Blazer EV... Yeah an electic Honda from GM; the company known for electrical issues. WTF were they thinking indeed?
Fair review; this car doesn’t have a USP, or bring anything new to a crowded market sector. In fact, it’s probably a year or two behind the class leaders already!
Might just be one for Honda’s really loyal fan base? Most other potential buyers could buy better for less.
You know what would be refreshing? A car that just provides transport for 4/5 people and their luggage, rather than being an all immersive VR experience.
Sounds like you need a new Citroen e-C3!
I think at the moment Honda hasn't got this up to other manufacturers vehicles short on range and is far too costly😮
Honda already offering a £8k contribution
Yours truly, you did well.
To expensive, charge time must between 25 a 30 minutes. And the those plastic cover for the back panorama ceiling are stupid. No Frunk? Lazy design......
Honda usually release hit and miss cars, some are brilliant, some not so much. I love Honda's but so many just don't quite hit the mark, then when they do refresh one of their cars they resolve the issues... but at that stage, it's usually too late and the market has moved on. I'm guessing their next EV will be amazing.
Not impressed with the car.
But I sure am impressed with the host. She made a video about an uninteresting car interesting to watch. Engaging. Informative. A lot of sense. And fun.
The e:Ny1 is actually a joint venture with Dongfeng a Chinese-government owned car manufacturer, known for making “copy-cat” cars or dupes.
Uk dealers are giving 8,000 + 1,500 reduction at the moment - so that puts it down from £47k to £37.5k. Why can't they just start at that price?
E:NY1.... Anyone else seeing this translating to "Anyone"?
I owned a Tesla Model 3 and my wife has brought this a few months ago. Honestly I prefer this. In paper the Tesla is hands down better but honestly the Honda is amazing
Glossary: Boot=Trunk Bonnet=Hood Wing Mirrors=Side Mirrors Wing=Fender
Crisps equals chips chips equals fries biscuits equals cookies
@@rp9674 Trousers equals pants, and if that hole in Tish's gets any bigger we will be able to see her English pants ! 🙂
Can’t see them selling many of these… far too much legitimate competition at (and under) that price….
Where did ppl line up to buy the Honda E? As far as I know, sales were a total disaster and its now Discontinued completely here on the swedish market.
Underwhelming, I wouldn't buy at that price
Thanks Trish for the nice review! Love your videos.
Unfortunately, you reviewed just another pointless and useless car, at least in my opinion. It costs way too much for what it offers, a big SUV outside and in the rear seats maybe, but poor trunk and at that price tag 256 miles of ideal range, which translates easily to 180 or less in winter? More than enough for daily driving but with such a big car you want to travel from time to time. And 78KW of maximum charging power?? That's ridiculous.
If I had to buy a big family car, with that money I'll get a Tesla S/Y or a Hyunday Ioniq 5, or one of the wonderful Polestar EX30.
really feels and “smells” like a compliance car. And I thought that similar exercises from other brands have taught everyone a lesson already (that it’s not having the intended effect)
I like the gash in your jeans.
Great review!!! I like the car.
About the price. Honda is very well equipped. It has electric leather seats, two big screens, all safety equipment etc. In many other brands, you have to choose the best equipment level to be on the same line.
Compact SUV
Honda E:ny1 elegance £45000
Kia Niro EV4 £43000
Renault Megane E-Tech Iconic £43000
Nissan Ariya Advance £43000
Nissan Ariya Evolve £47000
Volvo XC40 Recharge Plus £52000 ->
MB EQA AMG Line £52000 ->
Is it too expensive after all? Looks more like the comments of Honda haters!
MG ZS trophy? £32k!
Great review. Another SUV ..... For me it is a non sense for an EV car.
there is too much SUV on the market 😞
Legacy car makers soaking up ‘ first adopters “ while wondering what to do with existing gearbox ,clutch and engine manufacturers. Then the community’s that depend on that .
Imagine all of the dead bugs you will be touching every time you manually close the charge port door!
Honda have been blacklisting negative reviewers of this specific car. I hope they don't do the same here. Naughty Honda!
Not surprised. I'm a Honda fan, but the moment I saw they were partnering up with GM AGAIN, it was dead on arrival. At least they figured out this partnership wasn't going to work and killed it, but that's still time wasted. Honda leadership really has their heads up their asses when it comes to understanding that partnering with GM isn't the way to go (see: Saturn V6 deal and Cruise self-driving vehicles)
I’ve been a Honda fan for years, but I wouldn’t touch this. For this money I’d be eyeing an Ioniq 5 or EV6. For a car of this size the Kona or Niro are far more practical (the Kona has a 466 litre boot, much bigger than this) and both have more range. At this price people are right to compare it to the Model Y, for me the insurance was so much more expensive on a Tesla…)
I don’t think we will see all too many of these on the road…
Vauxhall want £38,000 for a corsa E top of range , so is the Mazda expensive? All electric cars are crazy prices at moment
Price on the Vauxhall e-corsa is a figment of the imagination, I am sure it drops by at least £5k, a lot more if you bargain, as soon as you walk into showroom. Vauxhall has ambitious sales targets and will discount, whereas I suspect Honda will keep it high and not sell. A bit like their small EV (forgot the name, Honda e?) I think I saw only one in the wild😂
@@lozkko I suspect most are bought on some kind of Salary Sacrifice PCP scheme. I just checked on Autotrader and the first listing was a 2022 Corsa-E with 11000 miles on the clock for £18000.
Silly place to put the charge point. Most home chargers are near the rear of the drive or garage, so the obvious place should be near the rear of the car. I do wonder sometimes what these designers are thinking ….
Brilliant having it in the front, both my Leaf and e-niro have it at the front and it makes for really easy charging.
Wouldn’t suit me though. I’d have to reverse onto a busy road. Exciting times though, with all these new EVs coming out. I’m trying to decide when to change. I’ve got a Zappi installed ready…. Cheers.
@@mikeholmes1950 Yeah I don't think they can please everyone. Maybe they should fit one at the back and one at the front. Audi put two change ports on the original e-tron so it can be done.
Looks like a good work EV minus the price
This is the problem with the whole category-there's less and less to distinguish individual models.
It will be those who have plenty on money especially some who are concerned about their mortgages living costs will see most sheeple unable to afford them .
Regen on most EV's is pretty mild with a battery that is 90% or more charged. It relies on being able the put all that regenerated power into the battery, which it can't do if the battery is almost fully charged.
May be when the battery is 99 or 100% charged but at 90% you should get noticeable re-gen for sure. I have been an EV driver for 7 years now and driven numerous EVs, if the battery is not full or "almost" not full, you will get re-gen.
Some EV like the Korean E-GMP simulate the re-gen even at 100% SOC with brakes so the driving/braking feel is almost exactly the same regardless of the battery % SOC.
Great points. Suppose the excess energy could be burnt off like is is with truck Ebrakes, by effectively shorting out a generator on the propshaft!
I can't claim to have owned multiple EV's but have a quite good understanding of the electronics involved. I currently own a Vivaro e Life van and the regen is quite mild, probably this compounded by the weight of the vehicle. In my case the regen effectiveness loosely follows the charge curve. I feel there is definitely a difference for instance, between a 20% state of charge and a 90% state of charge!
The sun roof has just put me off the car, it’s dreadful. Reminds me of my CRV I bought 27 years ago, it had a dreadful boot cover with popper buttons to hold it in place. I complained bitterly about it and eventually Honda fitted a roller blind type. The charge port at the front is brilliant, easy to access and less likely to be damaged, full marks for that.
Range?...Tish has the MOST range!❤😏
Like Toyota, it seems that Honda isn't really taking EV's seriously. They don't seem eager to break into the market.
£44.😂😂😂
My dad had a mk3 cortina that colour
Honda really are taking the piss with the pricing of this one
The Honda E would be more mainstream if it was offered in the US
Errr.. what happened to your jeans ?
Yep it's a bit meh. Very expensive for what is an average EV. The Chinese models are going to blow Honda, Toyota, VW out of the water unless they can find ways to bring their costs and prices down. Front charge ports do save the hassle of working out how to position your car at a charge point. Some cables are not very long and I worry about the stress on the charge port of a heavy cable pulling on it - especially if your only option it to stretch it along the back or side of the car.
I bought this for exactly $25400 brand new 10km on the dial. No warranty ofc but I dont care really about that.
They will have to reduce the price at least 25-30% in order to sell it in any meaningful quantities. Simple as that.
Better size than the Prologue
This is more expensive, has less range, and charges at half the speed, of the much larger and sportier Tesla Model Y. Do the people at Honda know that this directly competes with that? I'm trying to understand the pricing but 4 cup holders in the back doesn't exactly make up for Tesla Sentry mode, and a 21 speaker surround sound gap either.
It's almost like they don't want to sell this... 30k, car.
You were in the papers haha! Shame on Honda from producing junk.
seems like the offering from china is just more mature and even when the build quality or material are not as good as the Japanese, its forgiveable for the price they are asking.
I’m a bloke and I like the colour! 🤷🏻♂️