Andrew Scheps, love that he shares his thought process of why he's doing what he does. And it always makes perfect sense. The Pultec on the mix bus with boosts at 100hz and 10k makes perfect sense. If you've been mixing for any length of time, you would get how much sense this makes.. Awesome video!!! Alway love Andrew Scheps mixing vids.🙂👍👍👍
What I love about Andrew scheps is That he goes for the result. doesn't care so much for the technicalities. So if hitting the signal with a limiter by -20db makes the sound pop, who cares
I did the room tracks blend in the parts that warranted it on my first ever engineering project in my home studio not even knowing if it was a normal technique (im only 2.5 years into the engineering game) but it seriously makss a world of difference for the right scenario(s)!
Probably with it on... Otherwise he's clipping hard lol, but maybe he sends it lowered to the mastering engineer. Depends on what he expects out of the mastering (I would say he sends it as finished as possible, ie with the hard limiting)
UAD Neve 33609 Stereo Compressor doing 100 recovery doing about 4b of reduction at a 1.5:1 ratio, A UAD Fairchild doing no compression, just coloration, and finally the UAD_bx digitial v2 adding stereo width, and a high shelf boost and a bass shift of 0.7 on both sides and middle.
Yeah I remember those Lang, EQ's. Back in 1973. When I worked for Flight Three Recordings Inc., in Baltimore. Original home of George Massenburg. We both started at the same place a couple years apart. We were both mentored by the same guy. A genius electrical engineer formerly with Bell Laboratories. And the father of Vertical Hold for television. Not in any history books. Thomas M. Bray. And I still have his custom, 4 input, vacuum tube, stereo microphone mixer. That doesn't sound like other tube stuff. It has a beautiful stark open quality to it. Way more open sounding than my pair of Altec Lansing 1567 A's. Which sound dark in comparison. Even though they both have the same, TELEFUNKEN tubes in them. But sound way different. So, those Lang EQ's. Were, a lot like a, PULTEC. But transistorized and much cooler operating. They were clean and robust. And they were smooth sounding. And I haven't touched one since 1973. Much less seen one since? But here they are! I remember those! I'm missing my old life.. I didn't want to retire. I was forced into retirement. This sucks! I love you Andrew! RemyRAD
How is Andrew Schepps hitting the red lights if the whole thing is supposed to be -6db to be mastered? I have this problem very often, the mix sounds great but it's hitting above -6 and I end up destroying my mixes trying to rebalance stuff to make my mix hit below -6.
as long as you dont hit the limiter/clipper on your master you can throw any gain plugin and just lower the gain to a lever you a comfortable with and keep mixing, further adjusting the gain to the level you need. just think about it that way and dont restrict yourself with these "rules"
The math in modern daw has 64 bit floating point operations. With real numbers. You can safely exceed the 0 level by at least 100 dB and then lower it back and it will not be clipped. There will be clipping only when converting to 16 or 24 bit integer format. Simply lower the loud mix in the final to a level not exceeding 0db. And there is no need to move its individual tracks separately. Of course check your daw against this.
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How does he manage to lengthen the kick and snare with those limiter settings? Wouldn't you normally have a slower release rather than a very quick one to achieve that?
daveezraloops if you have a fast attack the limiter grabs the transients and flattens it, giving the impression of the transient being longer, whereas in slow attack the transient stays untouched
Slower release would mean you keep compressing after the signal has dropped below the threshold, thus reducing the tail/length of the kick and snare. A faster release setting means you compress the peak but let the tail through, which preserves the low end bloom after the hit, thus lengthening the drums. I use a similar approach on my kick bus (-5dB reduction, 25ms ish attack, 50 to 60ms release and wet/dry mix at 50%, really lengthens the sound while also tightening the attack). I'm by no means an expert, maybe someone from mix the masters can complete/correct my answer!
Thanks for the replies! Raoul Tchoï: yes, that makes sense. I can hear the extra sustain when Andrew engages the limiter, it just seemed counterintuitive to me. I'll spend more time experimenting. Best Wishes
Serious question..... How do you still hear such detail when you have the equivalent of curtains over your ears? Does cousin IT have his own Abbey Road treated room? Lol :-p
Whenever I see a video about compression I can't hear any difference when bypassing. I guess these are the pro videos.. But, Whenever I use and setup a compression I can hear a huge difference 😁 I think that's what noobies do.
Not to be rude here but guys when we talk about mixing can we point out exactly what genre we mixing for....Most of the time its rock...So if we say C.L.A is the an excellent engineer we meant in Rock Genre not in Reggea for exmble
The math in modern daw has 64 bit floating point operations. With real numbers. You can safely exceed the 0 level by at least 100 dB and then lower it back and it will not be clipped. There will be clipping only when converting to 16 or 24 bit integer format.
Plugins are not equalizers, or compressors, or reverb, etc. they are all software that re-write "ceros and ones" because, in the box (computer) all is digital, just "0 and 1", so what the plugin that you think is compressing the signal is actually re-writing the file, that consist only in a large succession of ceros and ones.
@@user-qj2cq4dv3k When they came out in the 90s they were designed to "sound" like hardware because the engineers were used to the way they work, but today young generation have never work with real LA2As or SSLs so that emulation have no use to them, that is why companies like Izotope are coming with these new intelligent plugins and in the coming years this is going to change the game completely.
Everything sounds waaaaaay overprocessed and distorted on my monitors, I do not like what he has done with this mix. Too much crushing and pushing imho by a mile
I love this dude, no BS, no ego, just good sounds and means to get there
Andrew Scheps ... the Bob Ross of audio art.
No mistakes, just happy little accidents
I love Andrew Scheps. He’s so down to earth and straight forward with his explanations. The red light thing made me laugh
It was funny 🤣
Andrew Scheps is my dad
Only in puppet form
I thought he only fingered puppets.
IIIIIIIt's your dady's time!
Andy Sneap is my dad
He's a Rabbi
How cool is it that he’s sharing his expertize and though process behind his work. I would say very.
Andrew the type of mixer to master the track in parallel with the original
Xd
Doesn’t even sound like a bad idea
Impossible not to learn when watching schepps do anything
I know, he's such a natural teacher
lots of respect for Andrew and his approach. Met him in Melbourne a short while back, super nice human being.
I really like this guy. He could be all mystical and cryptic because his name is renowned, but he is just humble and chill.
A good lord of the rings wizard
Andrew Scheps, love that he shares his thought process of why he's doing what he does. And it always makes perfect sense. The Pultec on the mix bus with boosts at 100hz and 10k makes perfect sense. If you've been mixing for any length of time, you would get how much sense this makes.. Awesome video!!! Alway love Andrew Scheps mixing vids.🙂👍👍👍
Why do producers slap the space bar so hard?
Lmfaoo
For ultra-max hi-res transient energy
If you hit it hard you get some saturation which sounds good.
Its a beta thing :P
That's actually a 'Producer's Transport' which has an extra heavy duty space bar
What I love about Andrew scheps is That he goes for the result. doesn't care so much for the technicalities. So if hitting the signal with a limiter by -20db makes the sound pop, who cares
andrew, the hi freq bump in the pultec is there to compensate the filtering created by your hair before the ear?? thank you!
HAHA
I did the room tracks blend in the parts that warranted it on my first ever engineering project in my home studio not even knowing if it was a normal technique (im only 2.5 years into the engineering game) but it seriously makss a world of difference for the right scenario(s)!
the way he explains stuff is just gold
We need a "Sheps Final Smoosh" by Waves xD
Isn't that Parallel Particles?
I love the way Andrew think. It’s so logical. I was wondering. What about the headroom for Mastering engineer ? The mix is already close to 0dB
The wizard king strikes again, thank you for the video!
This man is a wizard!
"Happy"... "Sad"... Really made my day! 😂
I have met this guy a couple of times, he was involved with a studio that belongs to a friend...
Thanks Andrew fora couple great tips!
I do not understand if the mastering mix is printed with the limiter on or off, a genius andrew, I learn a lot, thanks
Probably with it on... Otherwise he's clipping hard lol, but maybe he sends it lowered to the mastering engineer. Depends on what he expects out of the mastering (I would say he sends it as finished as possible, ie with the hard limiting)
Sad... happy!
Anyone know the first 3 plugins on the ‘router’ track in the beginning of the video?
@WhyWorry Boy 😂
UAD Neve 33609 Stereo Compressor doing 100 recovery doing about 4b of reduction at a 1.5:1 ratio, A UAD Fairchild doing no compression, just coloration, and finally the UAD_bx digitial v2 adding stereo width, and a high shelf boost and a bass shift of 0.7 on both sides and middle.
Andrew Scheps is the Chris Lord Alge of mixing.
Uncle Andrew 😎🔥💯🔥
Hi sir how to mixing flute and violin
Yes
Yes
Yes
Yes
Yes
isnt oxford limiter a 32 bit plugin?? did u use it with bridge ???
Watching all the way from Vanuatu 😁😀👍🔥🔥🇻🇺🇻🇺🇻🇺
Great video. Many things to learn in here
When he said kik in and kik out, does that mean the kik out is the in reverse? Cuz that’s what I could perceived by eyes
It means they miced the kick drum with 2 mics, one outside and one inside the body of the drum.
@@zachary963 oh thank you
great as always
1:02 amazing change
I may have missed it but does he mix into that chain, or apply after?
Anybody know what song he's working on? I guess I missed it
So great.
*Props for still using the digirack EQ in current year!* 🙌🙌🙌
Antelop Audio just did a lang PEQ2 like a couple months ago...
Yeah I remember those Lang, EQ's. Back in 1973. When I worked for Flight Three Recordings Inc., in Baltimore. Original home of George Massenburg. We both started at the same place a couple years apart. We were both mentored by the same guy. A genius electrical engineer formerly with Bell Laboratories. And the father of Vertical Hold for television. Not in any history books. Thomas M. Bray. And I still have his custom, 4 input, vacuum tube, stereo microphone mixer. That doesn't sound like other tube stuff. It has a beautiful stark open quality to it. Way more open sounding than my pair of Altec Lansing 1567 A's. Which sound dark in comparison. Even though they both have the same, TELEFUNKEN tubes in them. But sound way different.
So, those Lang EQ's. Were, a lot like a, PULTEC. But transistorized and much cooler operating. They were clean and robust. And they were smooth sounding. And I haven't touched one since 1973. Much less seen one since? But here they are! I remember those!
I'm missing my old life.. I didn't want to retire. I was forced into retirement. This sucks!
I love you Andrew!
RemyRAD
How is Andrew Schepps hitting the red lights if the whole thing is supposed to be -6db to be mastered?
I have this problem very often, the mix sounds great but it's hitting above -6 and I end up destroying my mixes trying to rebalance stuff to make my mix hit below -6.
@Blak P. Official yeah but what about the mastering engineer?
as long as you dont hit the limiter/clipper on your master you can throw any gain plugin and just lower the gain to a lever you a comfortable with and keep mixing, further adjusting the gain to the level you need. just think about it that way and dont restrict yourself with these "rules"
The math in modern daw has 64 bit floating point operations. With real numbers. You can safely exceed the 0 level by at least 100 dB and then lower it back and it will not be clipped. There will be clipping only when converting to 16 or 24 bit integer format. Simply lower the loud mix in the final to a level not exceeding 0db. And there is no need to move its individual tracks separately. Of course check your daw against this.
is there a part 1 to this?
thanks I really enjoyed this!
Literally could listen to this guy talk about mixing for ev er
thank you so much.
Isn't there a phase problem in those OHs?
If there was, I'm sure it was intentional. The guy's sense of sound is amazing!
But can I do it with Scheps Omni Channel?
I'm not clear on what he does to thicken the drums. He said he uses a dirty EQ? How and at what stage is it applied?
Hi pass into lo fi for some dirt into izotope trash for a lot more dirt into an eq that is cutting a lot of the midrange
What song/artist is this?
Please, Please, Pleeeease! As I have already asked in many of the other videos that make up this channel, I humbly ask once again PLEASE ACTIVATE THE SUBTITLES OF THE VIDEOS OF THIS CHANNEL There are dozens of countries and millions of people who do not have the English language integrated in their lives among which I find myself and who also contribute their knowledge equally to everyone and do not forget to activate the subtitles for the English-speaking user. Pleeease! .... activate the subtitles of this channel, for me it is frustrating as an audio professional not being able to assimilate correctly the content of the videos of this channel in particular. Thank you.
He's the G.O.A.T
What a guy. *applause*
Genius 💯‼️‼️
🙌🏾 🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾
"sad...happy"... well said.
How does he manage to lengthen the kick and snare with those limiter settings? Wouldn't you normally have a slower release rather than a very quick one to achieve that?
daveezraloops if you have a fast attack the limiter grabs the transients and flattens it, giving the impression of the transient being longer, whereas in slow attack the transient stays untouched
Slower release would mean you keep compressing after the signal has dropped below the threshold, thus reducing the tail/length of the kick and snare. A faster release setting means you compress the peak but let the tail through, which preserves the low end bloom after the hit, thus lengthening the drums. I use a similar approach on my kick bus (-5dB reduction, 25ms ish attack, 50 to 60ms release and wet/dry mix at 50%, really lengthens the sound while also tightening the attack). I'm by no means an expert, maybe someone from mix the masters can complete/correct my answer!
Thanks for the replies! Raoul Tchoï: yes, that makes sense. I can hear the extra sustain when Andrew engages the limiter, it just seemed counterintuitive to me. I'll spend more time experimenting. Best Wishes
0:40 eq
The “red blinking lights” are annoying still right? And it’s all about how good it sounds anyways 😅
the inflator is not the same as the enhance circuit. they do the opposite thing. inflator: harmonics / enhance: dynamics
Serious question..... How do you still hear such detail when you have the equivalent of curtains over your ears? Does cousin IT have his own Abbey Road treated room? Lol :-p
Antelope audio makes lang EQs I believe.
I like the hardware its color. But I overall love the color and "randomness" of tube's.
And here he doesn’t use wave. Xd
Nice one
WOW!
Goat
ANDREW ? What about a Yamaha Sp90x plug In? Hello? Get on it!
I guess you remixed this track many times.😃😃😂🤣😜😆 I dont blame you..awesome job pal..👌
Whenever I see a video about compression I can't hear any difference when bypassing. I guess these are the pro videos..
But,
Whenever I use and setup a compression I can hear a huge difference 😁 I think that's what noobies do.
8:22 sad and happy ㅋㅋㅋ lol
Love this guy! Use your ears kids... fuck the rules!!!!
Very, almost hurtfully honest :-)
But the volume of the video is way too low.
i need his glasses
I think he meant fastest attack... 1ms
nope, 1ms is the slowest attack on the Oxford limiter.
@@TheProJuicers1 Oh interesting, I'm unfamiliar with that limiter
Yes
Not to be rude here but guys when we talk about mixing can we point out exactly what genre we mixing for....Most of the time its rock...So if we say C.L.A is the an excellent engineer we meant in Rock Genre not in Reggea for exmble
woa guys, the red lights came on!! does this guy even know what he's doing?
The math in modern daw has 64 bit floating point operations. With real numbers. You can safely exceed the 0 level by at least 100 dB and then lower it back and it will not be clipped. There will be clipping only when converting to 16 or 24 bit integer format.
Plugins are not equalizers, or compressors, or reverb, etc. they are all software that re-write "ceros and ones" because, in the box (computer) all is digital, just "0 and 1", so what the plugin that you think is compressing the signal is actually re-writing the file, that consist only in a large succession of ceros and ones.
They are emulators and good at it
@@user-qj2cq4dv3k When they came out in the 90s they were designed to "sound" like hardware because the engineers were used to the way they work, but today young generation have never work with real LA2As or SSLs so that emulation have no use to them, that is why companies like Izotope are coming with these new intelligent plugins and in the coming years this is going to change the game completely.
is it me or the mix sounds too bassy.. ?
Your room probably
Why is Andrew Giving Side Eye to the Teleprompter or to the Cue Cards??? What is happening? He does not need your Cheques any more…
Antelope did Lang
APPLAUSE,APPLAUSE,APPLAUSE...!!!
hehe
I wish I understood what he means half of time at least
What do you mean ”after that"?!?!?
WTF? Is this even the entire drum processing chain?!
I had respect for you Andrew...
Everything sounds waaaaaay overprocessed and distorted on my monitors, I do not like what he has done with this mix. Too much crushing and pushing imho by a mile
But bro your hear are hidden by your hairs? Is that the secret?
how can he hear with hair over his ears? kind of a low pass
This is nonsense! Sorry! I wouldn’t let this man run a bath! Terrible! Really bad mixing advice!