Starcraft 2 Day[9] Daily 189 - Newbie Tuesday: Losing to Early Pressure
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- Опубликовано: 11 сен 2024
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In this Newbie Tuesday special, we examine how to avoid losing to early aggression in a variety of matchups,
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10 years later and still loving it
I've never played any Starcraft game before, but I find these videos so addictive. It's like he's speaking another language that I'm slowly deciphering.
Jaxon Burn I feel like some of these videos can translate to other games like ow
You should start playing.
This video was released almost exactly only two months after SC II WoL was released, but it's crazy how it's still so relevant, with the expansion released, and all the new strategies revised.
Starcrfaft has been really alien to me... but after rediscovering the awesomeness of the SP campaign I was introduced to this channel. Oh wow, this guy is so entertaining! Great speaker, great teacher... thank you so much :)
"...people in their underpanic."
The small joy of hearing underpants.
Many of you might not realize it but the stuff day9 says out of the gameplay, including his personal issues are also what makes us pay attention and not get bored! :D Gotta love day9!
This is all spot on. I'm genuinely surprised that after all this time, his videos don't get waaaaay more views/likes.
He's genuinely one of the most helpful and insightful Starcraft players in existence.
I love. Love, love, love that Day9 does his friggin' homework. Or he's just so awesome that he knows instantly what is right or wrong with a build. Probably the second, but feels like the first.
Debussy lived in the XXth century ;)... btw I miss you Day[9]...
Dual wielding beverage just cracked me up, I actually had to restart your video around 4 times because of laughing for the first 5minutes! Man, funny stuff! :D
I LEARNED so much from this video! I honestly was questioning myself about THESE THINGS he talks about in this videos.Thanks You Day9!
Microing an SCV on Lost Temple while I do my build...
Such simple words, MOST REVOLUTIONARY EVER.
I haven't been on SC2 in a week because I was so sick of trying to keep my SCV alive and then my macro falling behind horribly (all I can manage is building SCVs and units from my barracks. I end up falling behind on MULEs, gas, tech, etc) and then even losing my SCV before I want to.
In game, you can click and drag to make a selection box. When he says box and attack, he means to select all the attacking units in one group and attack.
The 1st build problem was lack of scouting as the probe missed observation of the intial look for the Main, you can sometimes pick to attack if you've not been scouted early, but by the same token the person doing the scouting not seeying the intial base will trow off the missscout and go for tech.. as no reaction could be known till too late.
extremly helpfull, i really like the ways you use to train new pattern to the players brain just like repeating "probes & pylons", thank you!!
Actually its more like:
Zerg: "Protoss are OP"
Terran: "Protoss are OP"
Protoss: "Terran and Zerg are OP"
for grits, the zerg player. He absolutely could have built 3-4 spine crawlers when he supply blocked himself. He had so much money and no way to spend it after the overlord would pop, plus spine crawlers are simply kickass natural defence
"I believe in practice, not in imbalance."
-Day[9]
That ZeroControl guy during the second game is a real life friend of mine, that's pretty epic. =D
Subscrived for mentioning Jim Butcher. I love the dude, have all 12 dresden books and am working on Alera... You are now a demigod, because your channel just got better.
Look at the zerglings, now back to the minimap,
now back to the zerglings, NOW BACK TO ME!
Look at the zerglings, now back to the minimap, now back to the lings, now BACK TO THE MINIMAP.
O.M.G this guy is just out of controle epic.
just seen a few of his video's and just the share amount of information he gives if ur listening is just amazing for new beginning players ( like myself )
the moment u check his channel u wil be overwelmed by the share amount of video's he made only for SC2.
so nice to see ppl being hyped about a game. :)
keep it going man love every vid if seen so far and wil prob watch allot more :P
I find it easier to watch him on RUclips rather than his other channels.. wish he'd keep this more current.
"look at the zeeerglings... look at the mini-map.... look at the zeeerglings... look at the mini-map.... look at the zeeerglings... look at the mini-map.... " =P awesome xD
Buying SC2 tomorrow...planning on watching this series intensely! Thanks!
LOVE YOU FOR MENTIONING BUTCHER!!!
I laugh my ass off every time he duel wields his drinks XD
These videos prove that Starcraft isn't just a game, it's a science
Funny thing... I have a build where you can do Helilons and follow that up immediately with Cloaked Banshees. :] Got the Hellion half from Jinro vs BoxeR. Just figured the build could perfectly transition into a cloaked Banshee setup.
And for the last replay, I don't know why he didn't use his Force Fields... It's like the best spell in the game! He sat there, not wanting to use it or not knowing how to... It's so valuable against early pressure, allowing me to go for mid-game tech safely.
duel wielding beverage is geniouse i love it - keep up the good work
Wow, I never thought the difference between 480p and 720p would be this much, this looks SO crisp.
I like your take on the word "newbie", I would fit what most ppl describe that level of play. However, rather than using the term "lower" level player, I think using the term "casual" level of play is most appropriate and really meaning. Most hardcore gamers think I suck at this game as if I had no inability to get better, but after being more fluent with simple mechanics you teach here, anyone can literally be a good gamer.
You love the Dresden Files too??? Awesome!! Can't wait for no. 13!!!
You are one funny man!! i Enjoy watching your videos for tips & and entertainment.
Green tea... hydration oh man lol
At first I thought to myself "you could just move your rook or something back and forward if you can't spend your turn in time", then realized that's pretty much the same thing as losing a turn by doing nothing...maybe even worse.
Love the "zerglings up the front" gesture at 0:43:52 :)
"If you expect it, you're fine. If you don't expect it, you're FUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!" -Day9
Great Video... also idk if someone has mentioned this or not but Debussy is from the late 19th early 20th century, not the 17th.
IMPRESSIONIST COMPOSERS + STARCRAFT FTW!
Just click & drag your mouse to box all your attacking units and click ONE unit to attack. Target firing with zerglings is a pain at lower levels, due to not using control groups correctly.
Hah, love the Dresden Files Ad. Very good books. :)
Thank you! 720p is so much better.
Please make your future Dailies all HD.
day9 your wisdom has helped so much im improving every day so big thanks for the newbie tuesday XD
Also, as for walling off, against Protoss, anyone who uses Void Rays not to harass, but with an army, walling off is VERY bad. They get a nice target to charge up on, and you can't stop it since there is plenty of area for the Void Rays to safely attack from. Also against Zerg, it's bad against Mutalisk harass, unless you split up your anti air units. Otherwise, the wall in is very nice... But if you're a good player, you can probably prevent both the Void Ray and Mutalisk from coming out.
i love the dual wielding beweridge action! xD
Massive thumbs up for 720p ;) Makes the reply's a lot better to watch. Even if you only upscaled the video to 720p the codec is much nicer to watch.
Wow, I was actually dual wielding green tea and water at the same time he was. Lawl.
The Desdin Files series is AMAZING!!!
Now look at the minimap. Now back to me. Now back at your minimap. Now back to me.
Oh WOW - DOUBLE THIRSTY!... It's starting to feel like I'm TRIPLE THIRSTY!
Starcrfaft has been really alien to me... but after rediscovering the awesomeness of the SP campaign I was introduced to this channel. Oh wow, this guy is so entertaining! Great speaker, great teacher... thank you so much :) EDIT: he's a slurper though, that's fucking annoying :D
Perfect Ads, Day9 says "Uh oh!" and cut to commerical
@HGM231 Oh man, come to Taiwan. Everyone drinks cold green tea here as a thirst quencher. It's easier to get than hot, I kid you not. And if you think that's odd, try cold green tea + milk on a hot summer day. It's an acquired taste but I've actually grown to like it somehow.
Thanks for giving me a reason to go Dreamhack this year. See ya there!
38:30 I immediatly started playing chess with 20 second turns :D
@sibenikkk Not sure what you're talking about, we have players continuing to climb in points in SC2. However, rated chess matches occur far less frequently than SC2 rated matches, so meeting the threshold where your rating is too high and you get +1 for a win and -30 for a loss takes a lot longer ;)
Its kinda scary once i start having trouble with something youtube recommends the nooby Tuesday that covers it
Great analogy with chess and good moves!
I think he should have gathered the probes back, moved it into the marines to deflect that auto fire, just understanding that mechanic. Then taking the stalkers to the back and letting them gather, before sending them in?
Oh my God.. Jim Butcher series is the BEST! :)
Day9, i love jim butcher. my girlfriend forced me into reading the Dredsen files and its life-changing.
that analogy was actually really good, even for non chess players :)
The only part of that I agree with would be Gateway--->Forge.
It only makes sense.
Use macro hatches and then to balance your money just change what units your building. For example if your going muta ling build mutas when you have gas build ling when you have mins. then when the money gets high throw down another macro hatch. also make sure you hit all of you injects
Day9, you have taught me a lot.
Y'know, coming back to this with that much more experience... I think the actual answer for bronze leaguers is to NOT TECH. Which is really counter intuitive, but I actually believe this video is more aimed at like silver-gold people who have a solid understanding of the game - at least from experience.
For a bronze leaguer, it's hard to realise that sometimes rushing up the tech tree costs resources you could use for the army. They don't have the control or simcity ability to wall off and fend off a cheese any other way, so sometimes, the best idea to fight off a cheese is to "cheese back" almost as hard. You don't get gas, because that costs mining time (more important back in HOTS etc, but could be worth trying - this is done in "the staircase" 5-step training program).
What's a factory? Who cares, we just need /more stuff, more marines, more lings/ to hold the push. Those 75+ minerals could be TWO marines, man! And then,when you've defeated his push, then you have a more decent economy, then you CAN get gas and a factory and all those fancy gadgets without worrying about it.
This is especially important when facing the AI or on a small map, because unlike on ladder where you could/can afford to go for a fast expand, the AI always rushes you first. 400 Minerals? That's EIGHT marines, man! EIGHT of them! You could buy a second barracks, dual rax it, and put out twice the marines! So yeah, while day9's great and entertaining, I think there's some merit to thinking about your plan and what you aim to get out of this episode. Thanks for reading this essay!
(PS: he kinda brings this up indirectly at 8 minutes, but I actually think it's WAY more important because people emphasise build orders way too much. You gotta get them out of the mindset of having "a build order to learn" or at least pick one that's simple and straightforward and beats cheese, so they don't get rushed and then frustrated. Way too many people emphasise eco builds as good for newbs -- whereas eco builds are better for again, those silver-gold people who have the experience and need to refine their skill. A bronze leaguer just needs to get stuff chucked out at the enemy! Even if it's just 20 marines at 5 minutes or whatever! Anyway, rant over. I hope.
lol, "Debussy is a famous composer from the 17th century"!! haha
gotta love day9 he makes newbies into pros
Day9 thank you for these videoes I've gone 15/2 W/L ratio since watching your videoes and I think I'll be able to push out of bronze finally
lol at the new soil milk commercial
Two peanuts were walking down the street. One was assaulted.
@KafshakTashtak He has a 'special' RUclips account type that allows for uploading longer videos.
I believe it's called the "RUclips Director" program.
Overseers in your army or sporecrawlers in your base. Done. You'd have overseers in your army anyway, are you forgetting that the mothership cloaks? You practically need them lategame ZvP
@wrenny420 Storm Front is the first book in the series. :-)
The newest one is called "Changes".
Clothos, Lachesis, and Atropos were the fates in Greek mythology.
Concerning the game with grits and gas timing. Throwing down gas and timing it to finish at the time the pool is finished or a little earlier, in my opinion isn't necessarily a poor choice. Of course that's if your pushing for speedling expand, which is a decent opening on a map like this. Speedling's couldn't have hurt in prep for that first push. What do you think Day 9?
@itstrickett09 you misunderstood i mean you have your army 1st and then make 3 banshees to harrass in that form yeah thats only after you initially already have a formidable force to push the opposition away then make a few banshees to send out to his base while he is on your face
every race has some OP strats, some well played early agression strats are redic for each race
Debussy was actually late 19th early 20th, he lived to see WW1 so not that old DAYJ
@shrillz I'd say (we) silver and bronze are a bit lower than dirt... the other brown stuff... :(
all these NEWBIES should probably just chill w/ the ad complaints...it's just part of the youtube partner program that shares revenue with casters like day[9] and the rest of your favorites. since he's pretty much giving you an hour of FREE COACHING, at least let someone pay him for his time! I personally love these vids so I'm all for supporting good casters w/ all they invest in hardware, travel, and time. ok I'm done, keep up the good sh*t day[9]!
@dniceo7 I don't like the ads too, but they're not that long and not worth complaining about. Just shows you how badly ADD has effected us.
720p oh thank god.. I really needed that
@anthonywhistler you need to continue winning against higher league players. There's this thing called MMR which is like a hidden stat saying how good you are. If you start winning against high league players, your MMR will rise upwards. It will continue to rise until you start losing and your W/L record is settled at about 50% again. Then, they will make the decision to promote you.
OPOPOPOPOPOPOPOPOPOPOPOPOPOPOPOPOPOP YOU GUYS ARE ALL OP!
Man you're such a great teacher :D thanks alot for that show
Wow this is my new school ., thank you day9 please make new videos like this ones
Holy shit! I didn't want to go to DH this winter but I totally might hit it up now D:
If aliens attack I want day9 to be the general
who organizes the defense of earth.
GOD DAMN Adds why have they different volume than the Day9 vid blasting through my house in the middle of the night
He is Starcraft - Macgyver! hahaha
post more podcasts bro .u are awesome
it has really helped. u have helped my gameing ideas emensly.
'Where the sun doesn't So...(cke).. shine'
RIP the starcraft days
wADDYA MEAN
by the time they have that composition, you should have a bunch of colossi to deal with that
Go tell me the last few PvZ's that husky's cast, tell me with a straight face that protoss is OP and zerg is UP. The main counter to BL's, an archon toilet was beautifully countered. Now lategame PvZ, there's nothing that protoss can do.
@smithcm14 It really grinds my gears when somebody associates casual with newbie or bad player. A casual player is a player that does not have the time to play the game as much as he would want/as much as most other people do. A casual player does not have to be a bad player, he may well be an ex hardcore player who does not have time to play the game as he used to. TL;DR : Casual != Newbie/baddie
@Laou41 The rating system that blizzard uses was actually created for chess. Look up the Elo Rating System :)
@4o4o4o my guess is that it wasn't a ladder game. if you create or join a game you get that 30 secs countdown to go check their profile quickly =) if it is aa ladder match than i have no idea hehe
I completely agree, and not to be mean but i think the word your looking for is "sheer" not "share"