A camera with those specs at THAT SIZE is a godsend for me. I travel a lot and after sticking the fuji 27mm pancake lens on it I simply LOVE pocketing this setup and shooting everything around me. I've found this camera to be very fun this way. Occasionally I want something a little more serious and I pop my Zeiss touit lens on it for a nice, slower portrait. I have bulky hands and haven't really felt discomfort with it.
You’re absolutely right about the ergonomics. The X-T cameras are very much form over function, but the looks and the jpegs are lovely. I’ve been using Fuji X since 2012, but never as main camera. Had many different ones ranging from all X-Pro’s, all, X100’s, all X-Tx and some X-Txx and X-Hs and the X-E4. Except for the X-H range you always have to add a grip to make them feel comfortable in the hand. Agree with the dial issue. On top of that, the front/rear dials are poorly weather sealed (even on the X-Tx range) and so are the on/off collar switches on many models. Two things you didn’t mention. One is the joystick, which is an uncomfortable, small, hard plastic junk. The other is the Fuji menu structure, which has become a mess over the years with adding more features. Fuji really needs to overhaul this urgently. My main cameras are now a combo of Olympus OM1 and Leica M11/SL3, but I’ll hang onto my X100VI for its lovely jpegs. The Oly and Leica however, produce nicer raw files and that’s my main workflow.
Thank you Matti for a honest and balanced look at Fuji XT50. Beautiful sample images. They are bigger Fuji cameras with larger grips if one wants to use heavier lenses. I had Fuji XT30 with 27mm and it was a pleasure to use, even pocketable. In the end I got tired of Fuji AF issues even on more advanced cameras and now I shoot only with Sony and never looked back.
Thanks for sharing your insights ands thanks for the compliments too. No matter what people say, Sony cameras deliver pretty reliably and the AF is the best.
@@mattisulanto True! Strangely enough I rather like the colours straight out of Sony cameras too. With a bit of tweak you get whatever you want. We see colours with our brains and our experiences and memories play a big role in our preferences.
@@michaelajoseph6856 Especially the newer color profiles that came with the A7IV are really nice. What you say about how our mind affects on the way we see or "feel" colors is absolutely true.
@@mattisulanto I have the 7Cii the mini 7iv. Great in the hand and a pleasure to use, a real gem. You’re right about PP. Even creative looks with some adjustments are fun to use in a pinch.
Thanks. Yes, the importance of ergonomics cannot be emphasized too much. The “feel” of the camera is the first element of its practical function. Also, small viewfinders seem designed counter to their very purpose.
I have seriously considered the X-T50 as an upgrade from my X-T1, X-T10 and 20 cameras, but the biggest issue for me is the price. The OM Systems OM5 just looks to be a much more rounded camera for a lot less money (and possibly even more stylish). If it was not for my love affair with the X-T1, which for me has the best handling and ergonomics of all the Fujfilm X cameras ever made, I would have jumped ship already. Like you I think all the Fujifilm cameras require an additional grip to make the handling optimal. I am not a fan of all the film simulations, finding most of them quite ugly, and I usually use just two - B&W with a green filter effect and Astia(soft) for colour. All the added simulations and AF tweaks over the years have made the menu system problematic. I think the simulation dial is superfluous to my needs (as was the drive mode dial of its predecessors). I don't understand why they just did not make it an ISO dial. The other big problem with the smaller Fufjilm bodies is the lack of suitable small compact prime lenses. Even the XF 35mm f2 makes the cameras quite front heavy.
Well Nowadays people seems to give to the look a phenomenal importance. It seems that sometimes it s better to be photographied with a nice camera on you than doing real pictures. Fuji with its old looking camera met a big success, its good but not revolutionary x100vi a tremendous one, and the « good looking » cameras are usually sold 25% more expensive than the normal ones so it’s also a bargain for manufacturers. But you point the right items. The handling and the viewfinder are probably the 2 mains points to check when you use and test a camera or want to buy one… just because each time you will use them. So with a bad handling, a small viewfinder (and some other errors) this camera is definitely not for me. Thx Matty for your honest review.
I just got my xt50 2 days ago and had seen just about every video on it and it's not until I received it that a couple of videos have come out finally mentioning some of the flaws of this camera. The sd card issue is pretty annoying. They put the SD card on the wrong side against the latch so it's hard to get out. Canon puts the sd card on the other side and it's easy to remove. Another annoying one is you can't program the shutter button to what u want. I wanted to map it to record video and you can't.
I know two people who got it here in Florida and they died because of moisture issues but they never got them wet. So not sure what is going with that?
Nice, honest review! Have you tried the X-S20? It fixes many of your complaints: It's almost the same size but has an excellent, big grip, dials that are fixed (not pushable), a blank film simulation dial on the same position that can be changed to many other functions and - it's black! On the minus side: it has "only" 26 Mpix (perfect for me), a flippy screen (I prefer that) and no hardware AF-Mode dial (but you could change the film sim dial to replace it).
Of course. Pretty much any camera is an alternative if you don't like the X-T50😀 However, I think many choose the X-T50 for its retro design and if you like the retro design there are not many options.
Matti, it is still something how Design is such an important aspect of everything we acquire, whether it is a watch, phone, camera, furniture. It says something of who we are without saying a word. I started collecting older SAMSUNG Cameras, just because of their design.
That's fine to collect objects which look nice to you and put them on display. However, I'm not a collector, I'm a photographer and I actually use my cameras so they need to function.
Hi Matti, I don't use Fuji camera's but I've heard from other photographers say they are happy with it. But as you said everyone has a different option and it's good to have different views. Thanks Matti for sharing your experience with it. I like watching the features of all camera brands 😊
I want to ask, how small of a camera are you looking for? While a small body is great, it may not have a proper grip, so you would have to buy an additional grip to hold it securely, which doesn’t make any sense. The XT50 is small, but the XM5 is even smaller. I'm not quite sure how to comfortably hold these cameras without a proper grip, especially the latter one.
That is true in most cases. However, the GR3 is actually quite nice to hold, for example. Comparing the X-T50 and the A6700 the latter is so much nicer in hand even though it's not any bigger.
Can you get an aftermarket extended hand grip? I have such grips on three cameras; Lumix GX80, E-M10 MkII and a Leica Q2. My big hands appreciate it and it makes the cameras almost as comfortable to use as their larger E-M1 MkII and G9 seniors with the ability to shrink them down in a few seconds. Smallrig and JJC make grips for the X-T50 which have a relatively thin base to not add more than maybe 5mm to the overall height of the body. I’m sure one of those would transform your handling experience for the better.
@@mattisulanto It certainly works for me. I even have a Smallrig extension grip on my Sony A7III which is specifically to add depth in its example. Superb quality product.
I have X T 20 and I like the way it is in retro form but his gives me opportunity shoot in manual. I can control Manuel directly from the camera. Not screen. This makes me to shoot faster and comfortable way.
Hi Matti. Thanks for the review. I have a Nikon Z6ii plus lenses but wanted something smaller/lighter/cheaper for travel, and maybe more. I rented an X-T50 plus f1.4 Fuji 23mm lens. Overall I really enjoyed the camera. Grip wasn't great but (i) I usually have a strap wound round my hand and (ii) surely someone will bring out an L bracket soon. I wouldn't use film sim dial, but wasn't upset by its presence. I liked the front/back wheels, but agree they could feel more positive, less soft. And it's a great looking camera, no question. Grey finish would be my choice. To match my hair. However, I compared it to a Nikon Z50 - same shots in multiple cases, at same time. Did I have a poor lens - not sure but in terms of sharpness Nikon won out very obviously. I preferred the colours for raw and (std) jpg, plus it's got a comfortable grip, and I can share lenses with Z6ii. Nikon doesn't have a decent quality APSC zoom for travel/walkabout, that I can see, sadly. Really enjoyed your ("not a") review, and your videos generally. Seems like you're at a thoroughly enjoyable stage of life, and long may that continue. Best wishes.
Thanks so much for your feedback, compliments and experience with both Fuji and Nikon. Matching the color of your hair to your camera is definitely a valid excuse to choose the gray finish😀 Let's hope Nikon will up their APS-C game to the same level they have done with their FF lineup. All the best to you as well.
I think you are right to credit Fujifilm for responding to the market to give easier access to its film simulations on its cameras. The need for an optional grip is a common "feature" of cameras - off the top of my head I can think of Panasonic's GX9 and S9 which gain ergonomically from the addition of a grip, as well as the Nikon Z fc and Z f.
Thanks. Yeah, there are so many other cameras that benefit from an extra grip. It seems that the retro style often is poor handling without an accessory grip. Leica M and Q are the same as well.
@@mattisulanto camera ergonomics are pretty poor across the board. SLR-types are for right-handed people and even then have no room for a nose; range-finders have awkward-to-reach EVFs for those of us who are left-eye dominant unless used vertically! I hope DJI will come out with a new form-factor and show us all some good ergonomics for an interchangeable lens camera ;) Keep on shooting!
Well I do understand how nice ergonomics and (to me) on board dials are. I have the LX100II. It does not get me the same IQ as the Olympus Em1.2 with the 20 mm f1.7 or the 56 mm f1.4. But it is so so so much nicer to use. The ergonomics of the Oly are btw sane, but it is still big compared to the LX100II and it severly lacks where the LX100II (and many Fuji's and some Panasonics) excel: dials that directly get you what you need. ISO change, exposure change etc. It is easily the most enjoyable camera I have ever used, also because of the solid lens with a nice zoom that is attached to it. But back to the point: I see how many people love the Fuji's. Adding a grip is also not such a problem.
It’s interesting how people have become so used to deep grips. I grew up using the Minolta X-700 which has a smaller front grip and all the other film cameras of that era were the same and I was quite happy with that. Now I have an aftermarket grip on my Leica Q2 even though I don’t really need one! I agree on the other XT-50 points - I don’t use the dials or wheels so I've switched them all off and moved the Q menu to the button near the shutter release so I don’t keep pressing it accidentally. Fuji seem to be caught between their XT cameras looking retro but having as many customisable buttons as they can to compete with other modern cameras. Perhaps they should reduce the buttons on the XTs and point their customers towards the XH line if they want that sort of camera?
Thanks for sharing. I think one reason why some old film cameras feel better in hand is that they are fairly simple. There are no buttons or dials to touch and turn unintentionally and therefore you can be a bit more relaxed about where to put your fingers. I have a Nikon F3P which feels really good in hand even though the grip is fairly modest. Anyway, I agree that Fujifilm tries to balance between retro and modern a bit too hard. Leica does a beautiful job at retro and the UI is simple and fantastic.
@@adamadamis Thanks Adam. Having never held any of the XT variants I don't have a feeling for their size, but you've given me another option to examine.
6:46 - Having a tilt screen instead of a fully articulated screen is a big win for street photographers like us. I don't understand why camera manufacturers are shifting towards fully articulated screens just because some RUclipsrs are making noise about it.
Do you think camera manufacturers have forgotten about street photographers? We really miss having the tilt screen! Fuji: Fuji XT50 has a tilt screen, but XM5 goes back to a fully articulated screen. The latest camera models from every manufacturer have fully articulated screens: Nikon: Nikon ZF and Z6 III Canon: Canon R6 II and R5 II Sony: Sony A7c II and A7cr OM: OM1 II and OM5 Panasonic: Panasonic S5D and S9
There are more than some of those solo creators who need a fully articulated screen and that group probably grows too, unlike dedicated photographers who buy cameras. Anyway, I agree that for photography a tilt screen is better and would be nice to have a couple of more options. The best screen tilts and articulates, like the Sony A7RV screen.
Hi Matti, very good video. Nice and calm. If the grip is bad - you would' nt use it often. So you can hope, the most interesting Feature (film simulation dial) will find it's way into the XT-6. Is the menue simplier now - and is the writing easier to read/understand? Christoph
Interesting video Matti. Looks like they are trying to cram everything in to justify the very high price tag. And does a more compact version of the XT5 really need 40MP I wonder?
Hey matti. I don’t really like retro style with many controls dials in a small body like this. They really make the camera very uncomfortable and even bigger. That’s the reason I prefer a black and simple minimalist style camera. Glad to hear the same complaints I have about this camera from you.
I assume Fujifilm will make a separate grip if they haven't already, and there are probably some third party ones as well. Typical users of this camera probably wouldn't hold it for long periods of time, just long enough for one or two photos but dangling from a strap most of the time. A few early X cameras had the memory card in that position but more recent ones have a side door so I'm surprised they've gone back to that. The same goes for the exposure compensation dial. Earlier cameras had it protruding slightly and easy to turn by mistake, but later cameras have it more flush. Like you said it really needs a locking button like the shutter speed and ISO dials.
I saw someone with a metal lever in the flash shoe of their camera. I asked what that lever controlled, was it to trigger remote flash or such? He laughed and said no, its a grip for his thumb.
@@j_taylor I've seen those. They seem a bit pointless, even for someone like me who has spent many years with their thumb resting on a film advance lever!
Hello! I can tell from my experience with the x-t5, I use the external grip with all the bigger lenses, but with the f2 primes the camera feels better without an external grip. Also, with the grip off it's easier to but in a backpack (keeping the grip in a different section while travelling). A bit of a modular camera.
Yeah, X-S20 does it perfectly and I don't get why do they want to limit the functionality of the dial when a solution already exists to make it more versatile.
The grip issue was easy over come by Fuji making it big enough to put their new W236 battery in there instead of their insistence of using that old W126 battery in their new body's. I'd never buy another Fuji body that utilize's that old battery.
You do reviews very well. I wonder when (if) we will see Sony´s 40 megapixels APSC sensor in a Sony Camera !? Maybe Sony have made a contract with Fuji, so Sony cannot make 40 megapixels APSC sensor Cameras !? It will be great if Sony makes a high end 40 megapixels APSC sensor Camera, I would buy it at once for Macro, Bird and Wildlife Photography !
Thanks! I've been wondering about the same, where is the 40Mp Sony APS-C camera. I doubt there is any that kind of deal between Fuji and Sony though. Maybe Sony wants to keep APS-C megapixels lower than their FF offerings?
@@mattisulanto That is my second thought as well, that Sony will only keep the full frame as the high end Camera models, but Sony may also "kill" Fuji APSC cameras if Sony make 40 megapixels Cameras, or maybe it is just the aftermath from the Covid period wit low sales.
@@cameraprepper7938 I'm sure Sony 40Mp camera(s) would be better than what Fuji can offer. At least when it comes to AF😀 Fuji cameras have a cool retro look and trendy film simulations but in my opinion Sony makes better cameras. Maybe not as pretty but better😀
@@mattisulantoIf you extend the 40MP sensor to the size of full frame, I believe you get 94MP. So, if SONY's next A7R (VI) has 100MP, then they could also release an APS-C version with around 40MP using the same sensor manufacturing?
@@mattisulanto And all my Sony full frame Lenses fits nicely on Sony APSC Cameras ☺ Btw, I have ordered the Sony 85mm 1.4 GM II and the Voigtländer Nokton 50mm 1.0 Asperical though I really do not like the 50mm focal length, but for this coming winter time, I will try to use that lens only at apeture 1.0 for Street Photography.
I took it on a trip and while the size and portability won me over, I was pertty annoyed by its quirks. It's very easy to change ISO setting by accident. high ISO is actually really great for night but daytime really ruined many photos for me. Also, i had to change one of button to record video (one next to the shutter button). Also, A, and S modes can't be switched manually. If you do not have aperture ring on the lens then you can't ever switch to A mode- only S mode. I have the Tamron 17-70mm 2.8 and it became a problem when i do not want that shallow DOF. Overall, it's a camera I will bring with me again but will need to be more careful with which lenses to bring and check the settings before i take pics. that said, i really like TTartisan 27mm 2.8 pancake lens. it's a must have with this camera!
Not a good video because most of these criticisms are subjective and personal! How long did you moan about the grip? Try out the X-T5 or X-S20, which have great grips. No, I’m not a Fuji X user...
You said you did not like my video. That's a personal and subjective opinion. Is your comment bad because it's subjective and personal? I don't think so because personal opinions are valuable. If we just read the camera (on any product) specifications, what is the point in that? Every product review is a personal opinion more or less. When you watch (or read) multiple reviews you'll get several opinions and can then make your own conclusion based on that.
Good day! Allow me to disagree with you on the issue of the camera grip. After all, this camera is made in a retro style, and in the era of film photography, cameras looked exactly like that.
Yes, the shape was similarly narrow rectangular, but the Canon FTb I used was held and controlled differently. The focus and aperture rings are on the lens, and shutter speed and ISO are dials on top. There are no wheely bits or buttons in the right-hand grip, only the film advance lever. It certainly has the same chrome look! I never used an automatic SLR so can't compare that.
And you think it is a nightmare? The real nightmare for me with Fujifilm camera that power switch is exactly where it is in this camera - and I constantly touch it and switch it on when put the camera in the camera bag... I also own Panasonic GX8 - I much prefer the power switch location there, where you cannot trip it by chance. So I assume the Olympus also will be ok with me in that sense.
Having both XH-2 and XT-30 cameras I'm convinced, that fuji retro-style is more about 'nostalgia' feel and, simply design of beautiful objects . That's OK but... Working with XH-2 is so much comfortable (body shape, grip, modern controls layout). XT-50 isn't a cheap camera. Who really needs special wheel of simulation? Why not for ISO for example?
It's not a fan boy shirt, they gave them to everyone who was present😀 Everyone is biased one way or the other. Could you tell me what part of the video is biased and how?
@@mattisulantoNo, I am not going to waste , time watching a video that wears its bias on its sleeve. I have enjoyed many of your videos, but I’ll pass on this one.
First, it's not a review, like I mention in the video. What do you even mean by honest? What would I gain by lying in the video or sharing false information? Would the same video be better if I was wearing another shirt? I'm sharing my opinion and you are free to disagree, of course. But only if you are honest😅
A camera with those specs at THAT SIZE is a godsend for me. I travel a lot and after sticking the fuji 27mm pancake lens on it I simply LOVE pocketing this setup and shooting everything around me. I've found this camera to be very fun this way. Occasionally I want something a little more serious and I pop my Zeiss touit lens on it for a nice, slower portrait. I have bulky hands and haven't really felt discomfort with it.
Thanks for sharing. So good to hear you find the X-T50 just right for your "bulky hands". I knew there are a lot of happy X-T50 users out there😀
You’re absolutely right about the ergonomics. The X-T cameras are very much form over function, but the looks and the jpegs are lovely. I’ve been using Fuji X since 2012, but never as main camera. Had many different ones ranging from all X-Pro’s, all, X100’s, all X-Tx and some X-Txx and X-Hs and the X-E4. Except for the X-H range you always have to add a grip to make them feel comfortable in the hand. Agree with the dial issue. On top of that, the front/rear dials are poorly weather sealed (even on the X-Tx range) and so are the on/off collar switches on many models.
Two things you didn’t mention. One is the joystick, which is an uncomfortable, small, hard plastic junk. The other is the Fuji menu structure, which has become a mess over the years with adding more features. Fuji really needs to overhaul this urgently.
My main cameras are now a combo of Olympus OM1 and Leica M11/SL3, but I’ll hang onto my X100VI for its lovely jpegs. The Oly and Leica however, produce nicer raw files and that’s my main workflow.
Thanks for your first hand experience. I don't find the joystick that bad but the menu structure is a mess indeed😀
Thank you Matti for a honest and balanced look at Fuji XT50. Beautiful sample images. They are bigger Fuji cameras with larger grips if one wants to use heavier lenses. I had Fuji XT30 with 27mm and it was a pleasure to use, even pocketable. In the end I got tired of Fuji AF issues even on more advanced cameras and now I shoot only with Sony and never looked back.
Thanks for sharing your insights ands thanks for the compliments too. No matter what people say, Sony cameras deliver pretty reliably and the AF is the best.
@@mattisulanto True! Strangely enough I rather like the colours straight out of Sony cameras too. With a bit of tweak you get whatever you want. We see colours with our brains and our experiences and memories play a big role in our preferences.
@@michaelajoseph6856 Especially the newer color profiles that came with the A7IV are really nice. What you say about how our mind affects on the way we see or "feel" colors is absolutely true.
@@mattisulanto I have the 7Cii the mini 7iv. Great in the hand and a pleasure to use, a real gem. You’re right about PP. Even creative looks with some adjustments are fun to use in a pinch.
Thanks. Yes, the importance of ergonomics cannot be emphasized too much. The “feel” of the camera is the first element of its practical function. Also, small viewfinders seem designed counter to their very purpose.
Thanks! Yeah, it has to feel good in your hand.
I have seriously considered the X-T50 as an upgrade from my X-T1, X-T10 and 20 cameras, but the biggest issue for me is the price. The OM Systems OM5 just looks to be a much more rounded camera for a lot less money (and possibly even more stylish). If it was not for my love affair with the X-T1, which for me has the best handling and ergonomics of all the Fujfilm X cameras ever made, I would have jumped ship already.
Like you I think all the Fujifilm cameras require an additional grip to make the handling optimal. I am not a fan of all the film simulations, finding most of them quite ugly, and I usually use just two - B&W with a green filter effect and Astia(soft) for colour. All the added simulations and AF tweaks over the years have made the menu system problematic. I think the simulation dial is superfluous to my needs (as was the drive mode dial of its predecessors). I don't understand why they just did not make it an ISO dial. The other big problem with the smaller Fufjilm bodies is the lack of suitable small compact prime lenses. Even the XF 35mm f2 makes the cameras quite front heavy.
Thanks for sharing! I agree the X-T50 is a bit pricey compared to the X-T5 and maybe compared to the competition too.
Well Nowadays people seems to give to the look a phenomenal importance. It seems that sometimes it s better to be photographied with a nice camera on you than doing real pictures. Fuji with its old looking camera met a big success, its good but not revolutionary x100vi a tremendous one, and the « good looking » cameras are usually sold 25% more expensive than the normal ones so it’s also a bargain for manufacturers. But you point the right items. The handling and the viewfinder are probably the 2 mains points to check when you use and test a camera or want to buy one… just because each time you will use them. So with a bad handling, a small viewfinder (and some other errors) this camera is definitely not for me. Thx Matty for your honest review.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts, much appreciated.
I just got my xt50 2 days ago and had seen just about every video on it and it's not until I received it that a couple of videos have come out finally mentioning some of the flaws of this camera. The sd card issue is pretty annoying. They put the SD card on the wrong side against the latch so it's hard to get out. Canon puts the sd card on the other side and it's easy to remove. Another annoying one is you can't program the shutter button to what u want. I wanted to map it to record video and you can't.
Thanks for sharing you experience with the X-T50.
I know two people who got it here in Florida and they died because of moisture issues but they never got them wet. So not sure what is going with that?
Thanks! My friend had the X-S20 and he had issues in the tropics. The camera did not die completely but malfunctioned enough for him to get rid of it.
Oh wow, that's disturbing!
Nice, honest review! Have you tried the X-S20? It fixes many of your complaints: It's almost the same size but has an excellent, big grip, dials that are fixed (not pushable), a blank film simulation dial on the same position that can be changed to many other functions and - it's black!
On the minus side: it has "only" 26 Mpix (perfect for me), a flippy screen (I prefer that) and no hardware AF-Mode dial (but you could change the film sim dial to replace it).
Thanks. I have held the X-S20 in my hand and it feels much better but this video is not about the X-S20😀
@@mattisulanto Sure. But it's a great alternative for people who have similar issues with the ergonomics of the X-T50.
Of course. Pretty much any camera is an alternative if you don't like the X-T50😀 However, I think many choose the X-T50 for its retro design and if you like the retro design there are not many options.
Matti, it is still something how Design is such an important aspect of everything we acquire, whether it is a watch, phone, camera, furniture. It says something of who we are without saying a word. I started collecting older SAMSUNG Cameras, just because of their design.
That's fine to collect objects which look nice to you and put them on display. However, I'm not a collector, I'm a photographer and I actually use my cameras so they need to function.
Hi Matti, I don't use Fuji camera's but I've heard from other photographers say they are happy with it. But as you said everyone has a different option and it's good to have different views. Thanks Matti for sharing your experience with it. I like watching the features of all camera brands 😊
I'm sure some will find the shape perfect for them😀
@@mattisulanto Absolutely, thanks Matti. 😊
Thanks Matti 👍
I want to ask, how small of a camera are you looking for? While a small body is great, it may not have a proper grip, so you would have to buy an additional grip to hold it securely, which doesn’t make any sense. The XT50 is small, but the XM5 is even smaller. I'm not quite sure how to comfortably hold these cameras without a proper grip, especially the latter one.
That is true in most cases. However, the GR3 is actually quite nice to hold, for example. Comparing the X-T50 and the A6700 the latter is so much nicer in hand even though it's not any bigger.
Can you get an aftermarket extended hand grip? I have such grips on three cameras; Lumix GX80, E-M10 MkII and a Leica Q2. My big hands appreciate it and it makes the cameras almost as comfortable to use as their larger E-M1 MkII and G9 seniors with the ability to shrink them down in a few seconds. Smallrig and JJC make grips for the X-T50 which have a relatively thin base to not add more than maybe 5mm to the overall height of the body. I’m sure one of those would transform your handling experience for the better.
Just like I speculated in the video.
@@mattisulanto It certainly works for me. I even have a Smallrig extension grip on my Sony A7III which is specifically to add depth in its example. Superb quality product.
I have X T 20 and I like the way it is in retro form but his gives me opportunity shoot in manual. I can control Manuel directly from the camera. Not screen. This makes me to shoot faster and comfortable way.
Don’t get me wrong but I have to ask if you have used other cameras?
Hi Matti. Thanks for the review. I have a Nikon Z6ii plus lenses but wanted something smaller/lighter/cheaper for travel, and maybe more. I rented an X-T50 plus f1.4 Fuji 23mm lens. Overall I really enjoyed the camera. Grip wasn't great but (i) I usually have a strap wound round my hand and (ii) surely someone will bring out an L bracket soon. I wouldn't use film sim dial, but wasn't upset by its presence. I liked the front/back wheels, but agree they could feel more positive, less soft. And it's a great looking camera, no question. Grey finish would be my choice. To match my hair.
However, I compared it to a Nikon Z50 - same shots in multiple cases, at same time. Did I have a poor lens - not sure but in terms of sharpness Nikon won out very obviously. I preferred the colours for raw and (std) jpg, plus it's got a comfortable grip, and I can share lenses with Z6ii. Nikon doesn't have a decent quality APSC zoom for travel/walkabout, that I can see, sadly.
Really enjoyed your ("not a") review, and your videos generally. Seems like you're at a thoroughly enjoyable stage of life, and long may that continue. Best wishes.
Thanks so much for your feedback, compliments and experience with both Fuji and Nikon. Matching the color of your hair to your camera is definitely a valid excuse to choose the gray finish😀 Let's hope Nikon will up their APS-C game to the same level they have done with their FF lineup. All the best to you as well.
I think you are right to credit Fujifilm for responding to the market to give easier access to its film simulations on its cameras. The need for an optional grip is a common "feature" of cameras - off the top of my head I can think of Panasonic's GX9 and S9 which gain ergonomically from the addition of a grip, as well as the Nikon Z fc and Z f.
Thanks. Yeah, there are so many other cameras that benefit from an extra grip. It seems that the retro style often is poor handling without an accessory grip. Leica M and Q are the same as well.
@@mattisulanto camera ergonomics are pretty poor across the board. SLR-types are for right-handed people and even then have no room for a nose; range-finders have awkward-to-reach EVFs for those of us who are left-eye dominant unless used vertically!
I hope DJI will come out with a new form-factor and show us all some good ergonomics for an interchangeable lens camera ;)
Keep on shooting!
Well I do understand how nice ergonomics and (to me) on board dials are. I have the LX100II. It does not get me the same IQ as the Olympus Em1.2 with the 20 mm f1.7 or the 56 mm f1.4. But it is so so so much nicer to use. The ergonomics of the Oly are btw sane, but it is still big compared to the LX100II and it severly lacks where the LX100II (and many Fuji's and some Panasonics) excel: dials that directly get you what you need. ISO change, exposure change etc. It is easily the most enjoyable camera I have ever used, also because of the solid lens with a nice zoom that is attached to it. But back to the point: I see how many people love the Fuji's. Adding a grip is also not such a problem.
Thanks for sharing.
It’s interesting how people have become so used to deep grips. I grew up using the Minolta X-700 which has a smaller front grip and all the other film cameras of that era were the same and I was quite happy with that. Now I have an aftermarket grip on my Leica Q2 even though I don’t really need one! I agree on the other XT-50 points - I don’t use the dials or wheels so I've switched them all off and moved the Q menu to the button near the shutter release so I don’t keep pressing it accidentally. Fuji seem to be caught between their XT cameras looking retro but having as many customisable buttons as they can to compete with other modern cameras. Perhaps they should reduce the buttons on the XTs and point their customers towards the XH line if they want that sort of camera?
Thanks for sharing. I think one reason why some old film cameras feel better in hand is that they are fairly simple. There are no buttons or dials to touch and turn unintentionally and therefore you can be a bit more relaxed about where to put your fingers. I have a Nikon F3P which feels really good in hand even though the grip is fairly modest. Anyway, I agree that Fujifilm tries to balance between retro and modern a bit too hard. Leica does a beautiful job at retro and the UI is simple and fantastic.
I put a smallrig grip on mine & love it.
Great non-review Matti. I am considering something smaller to augment my A7R5. Do you know if the XT-5 has similar shortcomings? Thanks.
Isn't the XT-5 the same size as the A7R V? You could just get some APS-C lenses for your A7R V and it'll work like an APS-C camera!
@@adamadamis Thanks Adam. Having never held any of the XT variants I don't have a feeling for their size, but you've given me another option to examine.
One option could be the A7CII which is FF but APS-C size. One APS-C option could be the A6700 which would have the same E mount.
@mattisulanto Or the A7CR, which also has same small body, and will still give 26MP files with APS-C lenses on it. It's on my radar for sure.
6:46 - Having a tilt screen instead of a fully articulated screen is a big win for street photographers like us. I don't understand why camera manufacturers are shifting towards fully articulated screens just because some RUclipsrs are making noise about it.
Do you think camera manufacturers have forgotten about street photographers? We really miss having the tilt screen!
Fuji: Fuji XT50 has a tilt screen, but XM5 goes back to a fully articulated screen.
The latest camera models from every manufacturer have fully articulated screens:
Nikon: Nikon ZF and Z6 III
Canon: Canon R6 II and R5 II
Sony: Sony A7c II and A7cr
OM: OM1 II and OM5
Panasonic: Panasonic S5D and S9
There are more than some of those solo creators who need a fully articulated screen and that group probably grows too, unlike dedicated photographers who buy cameras. Anyway, I agree that for photography a tilt screen is better and would be nice to have a couple of more options. The best screen tilts and articulates, like the Sony A7RV screen.
Hi Matti, very good video. Nice and calm.
If the grip is bad - you would' nt use it often.
So you can hope, the most interesting Feature (film simulation dial) will find it's way into the XT-6.
Is the menue simplier now - and is the writing easier to read/understand?
Christoph
Thanks so much.
My GX 80 improved 1000% when I added a grip.
Thanks. Many cameras do improve with a grip.
Interesting video Matti. Looks like they are trying to cram everything in to justify the very high price tag. And does a more compact version of the XT5 really need 40MP I wonder?
Thanks.
Throw a small rig grip and it is awesome.
Hey matti. I don’t really like retro style with many controls dials in a small body like this. They really make the camera very uncomfortable and even bigger. That’s the reason I prefer a black and simple minimalist style camera. Glad to hear the same complaints I have about this camera from you.
Thanks for sharing your opinion.
I assume Fujifilm will make a separate grip if they haven't already, and there are probably some third party ones as well. Typical users of this camera probably wouldn't hold it for long periods of time, just long enough for one or two photos but dangling from a strap most of the time.
A few early X cameras had the memory card in that position but more recent ones have a side door so I'm surprised they've gone back to that.
The same goes for the exposure compensation dial. Earlier cameras had it protruding slightly and easy to turn by mistake, but later cameras have it more flush. Like you said it really needs a locking button like the shutter speed and ISO dials.
Thanks for your insights. There are at least third party grips available and if this was my camera I'd definitely add a grip.
I saw someone with a metal lever in the flash shoe of their camera.
I asked what that lever controlled, was it to trigger remote flash or such?
He laughed and said no, its a grip for his thumb.
Had to get a Smallrig grip for my x-t5, too small otherwise.
@@j_taylor I've seen those. They seem a bit pointless, even for someone like me who has spent many years with their thumb resting on a film advance lever!
Its amazing how many "serious" cameras have no grip or very poor grip -- for me it's also a big con.
Popcorn time!
I fully agree with Matti ! Fujifilm is overrated.
Hello! I can tell from my experience with the x-t5, I use the external grip with all the bigger lenses, but with the f2 primes the camera feels better without an external grip. Also, with the grip off it's easier to but in a backpack (keeping the grip in a different section while travelling). A bit of a modular camera.
Thanks for sharing, I appreciate that. However, the X-T5 is not the same as the X-T50😀
@@mattisulanto hope to try it out. I once held an x-t30 with a 23 f2 prime and it seemed okay. But I agree that a bigger grip would be amazing!
Dear Fuji, you dont need a dial for film simulation
Don't need it, don't use it 😊
Yeah, X-S20 does it perfectly and I don't get why do they want to limit the functionality of the dial when a solution already exists to make it more versatile.
The grip issue was easy over come by Fuji making it big enough to put their new W236 battery in there instead of their insistence of using that old W126 battery in their new body's. I'd never buy another Fuji body that utilize's that old battery.
You do reviews very well. I wonder when (if) we will see Sony´s 40 megapixels APSC sensor in a Sony Camera !? Maybe Sony have made a contract with Fuji, so Sony cannot make 40 megapixels APSC sensor Cameras !? It will be great if Sony makes a high end 40 megapixels APSC sensor Camera, I would buy it at once for Macro, Bird and Wildlife Photography !
Thanks! I've been wondering about the same, where is the 40Mp Sony APS-C camera. I doubt there is any that kind of deal between Fuji and Sony though. Maybe Sony wants to keep APS-C megapixels lower than their FF offerings?
@@mattisulanto That is my second thought as well, that Sony will only keep the full frame as the high end Camera models, but Sony may also "kill" Fuji APSC cameras if Sony make 40 megapixels Cameras, or maybe it is just the aftermath from the Covid period wit low sales.
@@cameraprepper7938 I'm sure Sony 40Mp camera(s) would be better than what Fuji can offer. At least when it comes to AF😀 Fuji cameras have a cool retro look and trendy film simulations but in my opinion Sony makes better cameras. Maybe not as pretty but better😀
@@mattisulantoIf you extend the 40MP sensor to the size of full frame, I believe you get 94MP. So, if SONY's next A7R (VI) has 100MP, then they could also release an APS-C version with around 40MP using the same sensor manufacturing?
@@mattisulanto And all my Sony full frame Lenses fits nicely on Sony APSC Cameras ☺ Btw, I have ordered the Sony 85mm 1.4 GM II and the Voigtländer Nokton 50mm 1.0 Asperical though I really do not like the 50mm focal length, but for this coming winter time, I will try to use that lens only at apeture 1.0 for Street Photography.
I took it on a trip and while the size and portability won me over, I was pertty annoyed by its quirks. It's very easy to change ISO setting by accident. high ISO is actually really great for night but daytime really ruined many photos for me. Also, i had to change one of button to record video (one next to the shutter button). Also, A, and S modes can't be switched manually. If you do not have aperture ring on the lens then you can't ever switch to A mode- only S mode. I have the Tamron 17-70mm 2.8 and it became a problem when i do not want that shallow DOF. Overall, it's a camera I will bring with me again but will need to be more careful with which lenses to bring and check the settings before i take pics. that said, i really like TTartisan 27mm 2.8 pancake lens. it's a must have with this camera!
Thanks for sharing your first hand experience.
I think Canon SX530HS more grippy😅😅😅
Shame really :!
Shame!
Ergonomy matters!
Not a good video because most of these criticisms are subjective and personal! How long did you moan about the grip? Try out the X-T5 or X-S20, which have great grips. No, I’m not a Fuji X user...
You said you did not like my video. That's a personal and subjective opinion. Is your comment bad because it's subjective and personal? I don't think so because personal opinions are valuable. If we just read the camera (on any product) specifications, what is the point in that? Every product review is a personal opinion more or less. When you watch (or read) multiple reviews you'll get several opinions and can then make your own conclusion based on that.
Good day!
Allow me to disagree with you on the issue of the camera grip.
After all, this camera is made in a retro style, and in the era of film photography, cameras looked exactly like that.
Thanks! Of course you can disagree on this😀
Yes, the shape was similarly narrow rectangular, but the Canon FTb I used was held and controlled differently. The focus and aperture rings are on the lens, and shutter speed and ISO are dials on top. There are no wheely bits or buttons in the right-hand grip, only the film advance lever.
It certainly has the same chrome look!
I never used an automatic SLR so can't compare that.
@@j_taylor Good point. Those old film cameras had only few controls and the layout was so much simpler. No chance to accidentally hit a wrong button😀
You said nightmare? Can something be worse than Olympus On/Off switch at the left side of the camera? )))
That's another nightmare for sure. Olympus fans will say that you program the on-off function to the switch on the right of the VF.
And you think it is a nightmare? The real nightmare for me with Fujifilm camera that power switch is exactly where it is in this camera - and I constantly touch it and switch it on when put the camera in the camera bag... I also own Panasonic GX8 - I much prefer the power switch location there, where you cannot trip it by chance. So I assume the Olympus also will be ok with me in that sense.
Having both XH-2 and XT-30 cameras I'm convinced, that fuji retro-style is more about 'nostalgia' feel and, simply design of beautiful objects . That's OK but... Working with XH-2 is so much comfortable (body shape, grip, modern controls layout). XT-50 isn't a cheap camera. Who really needs special wheel of simulation? Why not for ISO for example?
Thanks for sharing!
"OK I put on my SONY T-shirt to say how this FUJI uncomfortable"
Would the same words be more comfortable to you if I was wearing another shirt?😀
You are wearing a cursed T-shirt!
LOL! Guy wearing a Sony fan boy shirt gives a tepid “review” of Fuji. Well, at least you show your bias!
It's not a fan boy shirt, they gave them to everyone who was present😀 Everyone is biased one way or the other. Could you tell me what part of the video is biased and how?
@@mattisulantoNo, I am not going to waste , time watching a video that wears its bias on its sleeve. I have enjoyed many of your videos, but I’ll pass on this one.
@@MrPedalpaddle So labeling my video biased even without watching😂 Please go and change the channel.
@@mattisulantoYes, I will unsubscribe. You just don’t get it.
@@MrPedalpaddle You have to go. I don't want you to poison your mind with my biased videos😀Anyway, all the best to you and happy photo moments too😀
Reviewing a Fuji camera wearing a Sony shirt. Honest ?
First, it's not a review, like I mention in the video. What do you even mean by honest? What would I gain by lying in the video or sharing false information? Would the same video be better if I was wearing another shirt? I'm sharing my opinion and you are free to disagree, of course. But only if you are honest😅
what does the shirt have to do with the opinion Matti shares? Are you wearing matching clothes when you express your opinions?