The Secret Untold History of Pakistan - Aamir Mughal - Former Intelligence Officer -

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  • Опубликовано: 21 ноя 2024

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  • @laicist
    @laicist Год назад +69

    Truly an Intelligence officer; didn't reveal much, just gave dots to find our way....

  • @breakthechin
    @breakthechin Год назад +27

    tried to compile most of recommendations by aamir sahab,must have missed some and there surely are some mistakes with the names of exact books but here they are
    8:20 -maulana maudadi ke saath mere rafaqat ke sarguzisht by maulana mohammed manzoor nomani
    9:56 -munir report 1953
    11:14 -Jinnah: His Successes, Failures and Role in History by ishtiaq ahmed
    12:45 -the pakistan project :a feminist prespective on nation and identity by rubina saigol
    12:56- jinnah :speeches and statements 1947-1948 by samuel martin burke
    14:21 -musalman aur maujooda siyasi kashmakash by sayyed abu aala maudoodi
    books on maudaudi
    15:40- refutation of abu al maududi by sanaullah amritsari
    book by manazir ahsan gilani
    book by shayk muhammad sarwar
    book by abdul majid dariyabadi
    book by hussain ahmad madni
    book by ashraf ali thanvi
    book by yusuf banori
    book by yusuf ludhianvi
    book by abu al kalam azad
    book by zakariya kandhalwi
    17:36 column by brig ar siddiqui dawn
    20:30 murder of history by k.k aziz
    21:05 smug and bigoted by babar sattar in dawn
    21:30 muslims against the muslim league by ali usman qasmi
    25:30 from jinnah to zia by justice munir
    25:30 of all those years MAK chaudry
    25:30 witness to carnage by karrar ali agha
    26:20 shahabnama by qudrat ullah shahab
    27:45 special report parliment in chaos 1951-1958 by dawn and celebrating independence the dawn way by dawn
    39:10- tafsir al tabari
    -al bidaya wal nihaya
    -work of ibn khaliqan
    -work of ibn khaldun
    39:52 sheikh muhammad salih al munajjid on writ of state
    40:46 saleh al fawzan on terrorism and related issues
    - the legislated jihaad & the deviation of the extremists by saleh al fawzan
    43:20 kitab ul kharaj by imam abu yusuf
    43:55 an affair to remember by anjum niaz
    -charlie wilson’s war
    44:15 who killed zia by edward jay epstein in vanity fair
    47:40 east pakistan: the endgame :an onlooker’s journal 1969-1971 by a.r. siddiqi
    47:40-the separation of east pakistan:the rise and realization of bengali muslim nationalism by hasan zaheer
    51:50 whodunnit by anjum niaz in dawn sunday
    52:10 new twist to miss jinnah controversy (news from dawn july 2003 )
    53:10 pakistan ke siyasi tareek (12 volumes) by zahid chaudhry
    almiya tareekh by dr mubarak ali
    murder of history by k k aziz
    56:30 a .r .siddiqi articles on pakistan america ties in daily times
    57:20 ishtiaq hussain qureshi ,ahsan ikram and syed moin ul haq books on nationalist history of pakistan starting from ibn qasim
    58:35 language and politics in pakistan and from hindi to urdu: a social and political history by tariq rahman
    59:15 nawal kishore press books in urdu
    a history of urdu literature by ram babu saksena
    1:00:47 kiranchi wala by akhtar hussain baloch
    1:01:00 gazette of pakistan and karachi
    1:02:24 karachi:megacity of our times by hamida khuhro
    vintage cowasjee:a selection of writing from dawn 1984-2011 by ardeshir cowasjee
    1:18:10 foreign policy dynamics between 1999 and 2001 at institute of international affair
    1:21:43 books of abul kalam azad
    -abul kalam azad interview given to agha shorish kashmiri in 1946 for chattan magazine
    1:22:10 abul kalam azad by agha shorish kashmiri
    1:22:53 dolalr aid cartoon in the pakistan times on 14th december 1950
    1:24:15 united nation commision report on benazir bhutto assasination
    1:24:22 advice to watch jfk film to understand benazir assasination
    1:51:40 empire strikes back in herald magazine 1990 by abbas nasir
    1:52:18 apna gireban program by matiullah jan on dawn news 2011-2012
    2:00:00 malik riaz and the art of the deal by naziha syed ali in dawn
    2:09:20 tehzeebi nargasiyat by mubarak shah
    2:10:24 masood sharif khattak with iftikhar ahmad in jawab deyh (12 october 2008 )
    2:12:20 umar bin al-khattab: his life and times by ali al-sallabi
    2:14:40 read all the historians ,do your research and make your own conclusion,on Jinnah read ishtiaq ahmad biography on jinnah ,also read jinnah: a life by yasser latif hamdani
    on pakistan k k aziz,dr mubarak ali,zahid chahudary,hasan jafar zaidi
    2:16:35 defence journal for military knowledge and prespective ,read hamid hussain,a .r siddiqui and tafazul hussain siddiqui articles on that

    • @IITTPPEEDD
      @IITTPPEEDD Год назад +2

      Awesome man!

    • @nivmhn
      @nivmhn Год назад +2

      Thank you good sir.

    • @ehtisham515
      @ehtisham515 8 месяцев назад

      Great Effort❤

    • @asimsiddique4242
      @asimsiddique4242 Месяц назад

      WOW great job, I just want to write about it. Thanks for the effort

  • @yasir8852
    @yasir8852 4 месяца назад +3

    I have came across many history scholars in life and listened hundreds virtually . But have not seen a scholar with such a pompous memory hats off to Mr Amir Mughal. Again thanks to Mr. Shehzad Ghiyas for bringing this living legend on his podcast.

  • @sudhirmodak2277
    @sudhirmodak2277 Год назад +15

    This Person born in 1967 and at the age of 4 was in 2 nd standard and was reading news papers - Only one liner for this interview " This can only happen in Pakistan" I don't think that this is worth watching. However I watched it. I have released this comment after seeing this video.

  • @Jake-cu1rt
    @Jake-cu1rt Год назад +170

    Aamir sahib is giving out more homework than all my school teachers ever did!

    • @faizan_ukk
      @faizan_ukk Год назад +3

      HAHAH and that's why we love him. Self study pe zorr dete hein

    • @hisamgilani9406
      @hisamgilani9406 Год назад +2

      True. Using google after every 5 mins and reading different articles :))

    • @KanishQQuotes
      @KanishQQuotes Год назад +8

      Unfortunately getting a pakistani to read is the biggest challenge

    • @ahmadfaisal8046
      @ahmadfaisal8046 Год назад +1

      Bro can u give me Aamir sahib's Twitter link

    • @Hiplsbeasub
      @Hiplsbeasub Год назад

      ​@@faizan_ukka* *

  • @majidmalikmalik81
    @majidmalikmalik81 Год назад +2

    Salam and respect for everyone... I am really surprised after listening Amir Mughal.. He is absolutely a person to be listen and acknowledge... I felt very sad that why I couldn't listen him before... I really appreciate him and now a big fan of him....👍👍👍

  • @kamranwadood1219
    @kamranwadood1219 Год назад +15

    Born in 67 started reading Np in 71 when in class 2... so in 4 years age was in class 2. Genius.

    • @induchopra3014
      @induchopra3014 8 месяцев назад

      He exaggerated . Who reads papers in 2nd standard? He read what? Pictures? Sports? Cartoons? Horoscopes? He read ABCD in papers

  • @Halz0holic
    @Halz0holic Год назад +16

    Exam Question: Please define Newton's second law of motion.
    Amir Mughal's Answer: Isaac Newton has written it. Go read it.

  • @owaisahmed5549
    @owaisahmed5549 Год назад +54

    I have to read more than 200 books after watching this podcast. In fact he is a very learned scholar

  • @ykhan9929
    @ykhan9929 Год назад +12

    So refreshing to see a host who is actually intelligent and knows alot about what hes asking his host about. Well done sir

  • @ghalibhassan7047
    @ghalibhassan7047 Год назад +3

    The channel is my source of enlightenment for last 2 years.
    The difference between you and Syed Muzzamil: he is slighly a better orator, but you outsmart him when it comes to the understanding of Pakistan and its history.

  • @sonalishende6260
    @sonalishende6260 6 месяцев назад

    Congratulations for having the most sensible insight on Pakistan. Thank you from India

  • @affaqbari2600
    @affaqbari2600 Год назад +11

    This man is the epicentre of wisdom and accurate knowledge in this world of misinformation....Great work shehzad bhai plz keep it up 👏👏👏

  • @farhananwar6430
    @farhananwar6430 Год назад +2

    I am so thankful to you. Please bring him often. Please it's a request. Sir amir is priceless. Please bring him often.

  • @thedarkone6706
    @thedarkone6706 Год назад +11

    Whoa!! This is just too much knowledge to take in with just 1 time. Have to watch this video at least 3 times. Aamir Mughal Sir you're my teacher from now on.

  • @AliMunirFarooqui
    @AliMunirFarooqui Год назад +5

    Shehzad i would request you to put the book references in description so that we can wish list them , you are doing an amazing job of reigniting a long lost passion (atleast mine) reading.

  • @hinaiqbal1370
    @hinaiqbal1370 Год назад +12

    History is HIS STORY , so whoever & whenever got to change it,did it for their own benefit.

  • @krishantewari2376
    @krishantewari2376 Год назад +21

    Path to accomplishment is the truth you speak. This man has impressed me a lot.❤

  • @SkepticalCPA
    @SkepticalCPA Год назад +4

    Please do a series of podcasts covering detailed history of Pakistan and how it shaped us a nation. It would be a valuable video archive for generations to have a view of real history with the shade of both sides bias.

  • @Kenkalsi
    @Kenkalsi Год назад +14

    Look how Gracefully BJPscknowledged defeat after KARNATAK defeat.
    Even a strong leader like Modi Ji will be Congratulating CONGRESS on their win.
    Thats power of Democracy.

  • @shikharpandey8311
    @shikharpandey8311 Год назад +3

    Thank you for asking my question.... He seems to be no BS, straight on point man... As always loved the conversation. And shehzad bhai (that obese cousin) we love you ❤

  • @beeloobhai9200
    @beeloobhai9200 Год назад +12

    Love it man. At 20:00 mark he solved all the basic issues of govt

  • @adityaadi4435
    @adityaadi4435 Год назад +49

    Each minute of this podcast was interesting and educational. Thank you for always bringing quality content.

  • @balagopalb7148
    @balagopalb7148 Год назад +13

    Hi Shehzad, your Channel has grown so big. Please add subtitles to improve the experience even further. I am a regular viewer of your Channel. Wishes from India

  • @sydzainraza
    @sydzainraza Год назад +12

    I used to be one of those people too who thought he wasn't one person but multiple people operating a Twitter account. Couldn't get how one person always had so much research and clips available 😄 really liked the episode apart from all the homework projects that were given. I do agree that we should be reading more to understand things better. It is always good to listen to people who are well read and know what's going on based on what happened in the past. Loved the podcast!! Also, good on you Shehzad for calling him out whenever religion seemed to be used in an argument against someone. But I get where he was coming from. He was giving an example of what people can say because of how sensitive it is to use religion in politics. Nonetheless loved the discussion!! Listened to it over two days while driving.

  • @bukharijawad1948
    @bukharijawad1948 10 месяцев назад

    Amir Muğal sb ,a man of great intellectual sagacity and an ambassador of great repute , a knowledgeable man. There are still some greater heights of success ahead sir . Wish you more grace.

  • @sultanmehmood9380
    @sultanmehmood9380 Год назад +30

    I am 69 years old. My thoughts are same as Aamir sahib. I have read all books, referred by Aamir sahib. Dr. Mubarik Ali is my favorite. I was in Port Qasim when Cawasji was appointed as Chairman, PQA. I know him, he was a different man and use to call sr. officers "Aah Saala". I have all 12 vols. Of Zahid Chaudhry. Book " Shadow of Great Game " By Narindra Sing Sarela is a very important.

    • @nivmhn
      @nivmhn Год назад +1

      Thank you for recommending Narendra Singh Sarila's book.

    • @asimsiddique4242
      @asimsiddique4242 Месяц назад

      Regarding NS Sarela, last pages are sufficient to understand his whole theory mention in book, BTW what is Book name of Zahid Ch,

  • @indian6160
    @indian6160 Год назад +12

    As an Indian, I would like to say that, India tried to be secular for the past 100 years… but what did we achieved ?? Nothing… we lost our land to Pakistan and Bangladesh… trust me … the more sanatani India will become … the more powerful India will be don’t compare India’s present with what Pakistan was in the Past 🙏🙏

    • @shyamparsad-ug7vh
      @shyamparsad-ug7vh Год назад

      L0rey ki puja kr Jake gandubakht 😂😂

    • @berzerius
      @berzerius 23 дня назад

      That's precisely the wrong lesson to learn. We might have lost the land to the ones with hatred as agenda, but they are self destructing. We don't have to make a state religion. We only have to implement true secularism or true equality of religions. We should also declare that country comes before religion and all extremists who put religion over humanity and nation is our enemy. We should not have issues with liberal minorities who don't follow their scriptures strictly.

  • @rudegangster786
    @rudegangster786 Год назад +7

    Full and frank, brilliant to know such beautiful content is being compiled and shared. We truly need to learn from our mistakes.
    I'd love to see a video on how we can come together as nation and not only take care of ourselves, but be a significant contributor to the world around us.

    • @sukhpindersangha4254
      @sukhpindersangha4254 6 месяцев назад

      Tell me one Muslims country that lives as a nation they all following your Quran it's bassed on tribes where Islam comes no humanity or nation

  • @AzharShahid14
    @AzharShahid14 Год назад +1

    Great work please make sure he's available for the next podcast.

  • @ameetdatta2281
    @ameetdatta2281 Год назад +5

    Super impressed Shehzad. I am hooked on your TPE episodes. So much to learn about Pakistan, its politics, and history and hope that things get better for us all! all the best.

  • @Bharat_Shukla
    @Bharat_Shukla Год назад +1

    I just had coffin dance movement in my mind when you were about to mention ISI directly instead of intelligence agencies.

  • @adeelansari
    @adeelansari Год назад +38

    Firstly, Shezad and team, congratulations on reaching 100K. With this milestone, there is definitely a lot to celebrate and you should definitely do so - but at the same time, you should also reflect on how important your narrative of Pakistan is now becoming. As the great Stan Lee wrote in Spiderman - "With great power comes great responsibility"
    I am completely at peace to know that you, Shehzad have a strong moral compass and will continue to provide a view on our political, cultural and geographic landscape that is not only backed by sound logic but also strong evidence (as you have continued to do thus far).
    Also, please continue to hold your guests to a higher level of authentic statements that can be verified and don't let erroneous messages and arguments fall through the cracks.

  • @mavirk
    @mavirk Год назад +1

    Aamir Mughal deserves a better interviewer.

  • @syedaraboosabatooltaqvi1471
    @syedaraboosabatooltaqvi1471 Год назад +3

    A man who is a library Amir mughal. kudos to you too shehzaad for being honest and congratulations on 100k❤

  • @PS5-q3f
    @PS5-q3f Год назад +1

    Intelligent people gives u much knowledge and History is really compulsory to be remembered...

  • @sudhanshuthakore7190
    @sudhanshuthakore7190 Год назад +18

    Heard a famous name "Gaffar Khan frontier Gandhi" for probably the first time while following Pakistan for a long time. We learned about him in India in our textbooks growing up. I doubt Pakistanis know thier history as much as we do.

    • @sajidahussain108
      @sajidahussain108 Год назад +1

      Well to be honest Pakistanis are more well versed in this than you guys. Ghaffar Khans family created ANP. Which was ousted by PTI and has never recovered since.

    • @alyaaziz1949
      @alyaaziz1949 Год назад

      @@sajidahussain108 😂😂

    • @irfan1195
      @irfan1195 Год назад +8

      @@sajidahussain108 it was ousted by the Taliban. ANP was explicitly targeted by TTP where they killed more than 1400 leaders and workers of ANP in a span of less than 4 years. Taliban used to issue warnings where they were explicitly warned them to not organize and attend political gatherings during election campaign. That reaulted in a vacuum which was then filled by PTI, which means PTI was the result of sheer violence against ANP and PPP during 2014 elections. There is a reason PTI is called TTPTI as well.

    • @madmax-bu6wh
      @madmax-bu6wh Год назад +3

      So true.ANP was being targeted and IK, so called champion of democracy, never once condemned them. No wonde he is called Taliban khan.

    • @sudhanshuthakore7190
      @sudhanshuthakore7190 Год назад +5

      Good to know guys👍.
      Btw, we also know a bit because he was the first non Indian to receive the Bharat Ratna.

  • @uzmasaqib8075
    @uzmasaqib8075 3 месяца назад

    Excellent work, please have some more programs with him.💐

  • @abhinavchokhavatia716
    @abhinavchokhavatia716 Год назад +6

    Man, this guy is good. I am from India and am just into the first 10 minutes, and am impressed by this person. Why don't such people who are so learned go into politics?

    • @asad-kc8zf
      @asad-kc8zf Год назад

      As you said it…. He is smart that’s why he didn’t go in to politics.

    • @SATWIKRAJ-x3b
      @SATWIKRAJ-x3b Год назад

      ​@@asad-kc8zfhe lacks calibre

  • @samibabar9543
    @samibabar9543 Год назад +2

    Bhai 3 baar sun chuka hoon! Kudos to TPE❤️

    • @ThePakistanExperience
      @ThePakistanExperience  Год назад +1


      4th time sunayn toh books jo mention hueen hain list kar ke comment kardijiye ga I'll pin the comment

  • @ayusraksa5749
    @ayusraksa5749 Год назад +7

    A very rare find who talks sense...

  • @danialqayam
    @danialqayam Год назад +2

    wow! What an amazing garden of knowledge this guy is. Amazing Amazing Podcast Shehzad. Such a breath of fresh air, some intellectual other than politicised people.

  • @preetmohantuli1795
    @preetmohantuli1795 Год назад +5

    Please bring Amir sir back for more discussions on history of pakistan era wise . He is a straight talker and one of the most well researched folks you have on this program

  • @ariebazhar7948
    @ariebazhar7948 Год назад +2

    Great podcast, Aamir bhai is a repository of knowledge!

  • @naheedkhattak4305
    @naheedkhattak4305 Год назад +9

    I wish I had a friend like him❤ I would have read a lot of books❤

    • @elgonm289
      @elgonm289 Год назад

      Well you could read books now brother

  • @rogermilla2358
    @rogermilla2358 10 месяцев назад +1

    Very informative, but died laughing at 1:01:45 - the guy goes from acting super duper disciplined and proper to saying THAT 😂😂😂

  • @muhammadumerfarooq8477
    @muhammadumerfarooq8477 Год назад +5

    I was rating hussain haqqani & atif mian's podcosts at the top of the list (since I had been listening to syed muzamil, hoodbhoy and dr. Ishtiaq). But this man is just 🔥... Bhai yeh banda apni archive are historical references sy bethy bethy baroo baroo ko jalaa k bhasam kar sakta hai...

  • @balakrishnaganapathy7823
    @balakrishnaganapathy7823 Год назад +2

    One of the better personality you have interviewed. Talks sense and in a way that is easily understood. Get more of such guys. I must admit I skip a lot of guys who are at sea with what they think and speak and who are otherwise termed as pseudo intellectuals. Good luck.

  • @zeeshman42
    @zeeshman42 Год назад +4

    Please invite Aamir bhai again to talk about the Delhi Sultanate and later Mughal era, particularly Aurangzeb's rule.

  • @fajjarbabar
    @fajjarbabar Год назад +2

    Iss podcast ke baad mujhe atleast 3 months ka homework mil chuka hai😂😂😂

  • @kainatshoukatkainatshoukat1516
    @kainatshoukatkainatshoukat1516 Год назад +18

    You both have some different opinions on some issues but the way you guys are delivering is learnable and thinkable for us thanks for sharing your thoughts ❤

  • @usamaaltaf8976
    @usamaaltaf8976 Год назад +2

    Extra-ordinary podcast.... I would highly request you to do more podcasts with Aamir Mughal sir (Loved this one Shehzad bhai)

  • @AmitSinghrana1008
    @AmitSinghrana1008 Год назад +6

    In One Simple Word: Outstanding. Huge Round of Applause To Shehzad and Tremendous Respect To Aamir Mughal Saab
    Lots of Respect and Admiration From India 🇮🇳
    To The Pakistan Experience 🇵🇰

  • @muslim9061
    @muslim9061 Год назад +1

    Feeling so lucky to listen to an original person , as far as i felt❤

  • @ahmadsaeed1713
    @ahmadsaeed1713 Год назад +4

    He is extremely knowledgeable and a very learned person.
    Shahzad, please do have a few more podcasts with him in future.

  • @AhSaNL11
    @AhSaNL11 Год назад +20

    Congrats on 100k Shezhad! This podcast has been one of the best discoveries I've come across. Been watching for 3 years. I remember when eps had Ike 5 or 6 comments and just a few likes, but the conversions were always so raw and honest, and I knew with time it would become big. Hope you always continue to keep it real and 500k will soon be on the horizon.

  • @ShubhamYadav-ru8wn
    @ShubhamYadav-ru8wn Год назад +35

    People are commenting here just within 3-4 minutes even before watching 2 hrs 20 minutes long video😅

    • @ThePakistanExperience
      @ThePakistanExperience  Год назад +18

      Pyaar hay ye sab ka

    • @ShubhamYadav-ru8wn
      @ShubhamYadav-ru8wn Год назад +6

      @@ThePakistanExperience I have also seen many of your videos. Toh pyaar hamara bhi hai😅😊

    • @ronsu4765
      @ronsu4765 Год назад +1

      Mujhay do dinn ho gaye video khatam nahi hui

  • @KhushalKhan-tc9cv
    @KhushalKhan-tc9cv Год назад +5

    Please mention all books in your description with their names.

  • @malikmoin7637
    @malikmoin7637 Год назад +26

    Aamir Mughal is my spirit animal. Stating dates left and right. Just loving his energy ! 😂

    • @baybars3138
      @baybars3138 Год назад +2

      just like Zakir Naik -- lack of depth

    • @ArsalanMazhar-eb5lw
      @ArsalanMazhar-eb5lw Год назад

      @@baybars3138 Exactly! Though he is very knowledge, but I felt that he lacked analytical depth.

    • @baybars3138
      @baybars3138 Год назад +1

      @@ArsalanMazhar-eb5lw yes he is so superficial

    • @a145m20
      @a145m20 Год назад +1

      @@baybars3138 for every question he says {reference} parhlein ja ker :D

    • @baybars3138
      @baybars3138 Год назад

      @@a145m20 he knows nobody will go read anything. So it's a way of hiding his thing

  • @TariqKhan-rs4mx
    @TariqKhan-rs4mx Год назад +1

    Where have Aamir Sahab uploaded the books that he talked about? Can we get a link and also link of other books that he talked about?

  • @asherdaud468
    @asherdaud468 Год назад +6

    This guy is the brand ambassador of "goalpost shifting".

  • @muhammadminhas9766
    @muhammadminhas9766 Год назад

    Very informative and eye opener. Would like to have his more talk

  • @omanalinasir5955
    @omanalinasir5955 Год назад +3

    Congratulations on reaching 100k subscribers. Also, thank you for uploading my favourite podcast so far.

  • @AR-gg5dz
    @AR-gg5dz Год назад

    Downloading it to watch it at night. Mind blowing.

  • @basitawan5959
    @basitawan5959 Год назад +22

    Ethnic Background of Generals in 1971 Indo-Pakistani War.
    During the 1971 Indo-Pakistani War, the number of Generals in Pakistan Army was 14. One was Commander-in-Chief of Pakistan Army and 13 were Lt Generals.
    Four were posted at the GHQ/CMLA HQ,
    Four were corps commanders.
    Four were governors under the martial law.
    One at the CENTO HQ in Ankara, Turkey.
    Out of 14 Pakistan Army Generals in 1971 Indo-Pakistani War;
    1. General Yahya Khan (Pathan) was the Commander-in-Chief,
    2. Lt General Abdul Hamid Khan (Punjabi) was the deputy C-in-C,
    3. Lt Gen S.G.M.M. Peerzada (Muhajir) was the PSO CMLA HQ in Rawalpindi,
    4. Lt Gen Gul Hassan Khan (Pathan) was the Chief of General Staff (CGS),
    5. Lt Gen Khawaja Wasiuddin (Muhajir) was the Master-General of Ordnance (MGO).
    6. Army's Eastern Command was under Lt Gen A.A.K. Niazi (Pathan).
    7. 1 Corps was under Lt Gen Irshad Ahmad Khan (Punjabi).
    8. II Corps was under Lt Gen Tikka Khan (Punjabi).
    9. IV Corps was under Lt Gen Bahadur Sher (Pathan).
    10. Governor Punjab was Lt Gen Attiqur Rahman (Punjabi).
    11 Governor Sindh was Lt Gen Rakhman Gul (Pathan).
    12. Governor NWFP was Lt Gen K.M. Azhar (Muhajir).
    13. Governor Balochistan was Lt Gen Riaz Hussain (Muhajir).
    14. Lt Gen Muhammad Shariff (Punjabi was sent as Permanent Representative to the CENTO HQ in Turkey.
    The GHQ posts of QMG and AG was under the rank of Major-Generals.
    Hamood-ur-Rehaman Commission recommended Public Trial of the following Officers:
    (1) General Yahya Khan (Pathan), Former Commander-in-chief.
    (2) General Abdul Hamid Khan (Punjabi) ex Chief of Staff to the President.
    (3) Lt. Gen. S.G.M.M. Pirzada (Muhajir), ex PSO to the President.
    (4) Lt. Gen. Gul Hasan (Pathan) ex Chief of General Staff.
    (5) Maj. Gen. Ghulam Umar (Muhajir), ex Second-in -Command of NSC.
    (6) Maj Gen A O Mitha (Muhajir), ex Deputy Corps Commander.
    (7) Lt. Gen. Irshad Ahmad Khan (Punjabi), ex Commander 1 Corps.
    (8) Maj Gen Abid Zahid (Muhajir), ex GOC 15 Div.
    (9) Maj. Gen B.M. Mustafa (Muhajir), ex GOC 18 Div.
    The Commission recommended Court Martial of the following officers:
    (1) Lt Gen A.A.K. Niazi (Pathan), ex Commander, Eastern Command.
    (2) Maj Gen Mohammad Jamshed (Muhajir), ex-GOC 36 (ad hoc) Division.
    (3) Maj Gen M. Rahim Khan (Pathan), ex-GOC 39 (ad hoc) Division.
    (4) Brig. G.M. Baqir Siddiqui (Muhajir), ex COS, Eastern Command, Dacca.
    (5) Brig Mohammad Hayat (Punjabi), ex Comd. 107 bde. (9 Div).
    (6) Brig. Mohammad Aslam Niazi (Pathan), ex Comd 53 Bde (39 Ad hoc Div).
    The Commission recommended Departmental Action against the following officers:
    (1) Brig. S.A. Ansari (Muhajir), ex-Comd, 23 Bde.
    (2) Brig. Manzoor Ahmad (Punjabi), ex-Comd 57 Bde 9 Div.
    (3) Brig. Abdul Qadir Khan (Punjabi), ex-Comd, 93 Bde. 36 Div.
    The Commission observed that the suitability of the following officers for continued retention in military service would not be justified:
    (1) Maj Gen M.H. Ansari (Muhajir), GOC 9 Div.
    (2) Maj Gen Qazi Abdul Majid (Muhajir), GOC 14 Div.
    (3) Maj Gen Nazar Hussain Shah (Punjabi), GOC 16 Div.
    (4) Maj Gen Rao Farman Ali (Muhajir), ex Adviser to the Governor of East Pakistan.
    (5) Plus 19 brigadiers.

    • @prateeksharma2196
      @prateeksharma2196 Год назад +2

      Great detailed information 👍👍

    • @KaliYugaSurfer_
      @KaliYugaSurfer_ Год назад +9

      Niazi are just Pathan in name now
      After all they are from mianwali which is in Punjab

    • @chandankumargantayat8926
      @chandankumargantayat8926 Год назад +7

      Niazi was pakka punjabi....rao farman ali was ranghar ( haryana rajput ) haryana was part of punjab till 66....hence haryanvi muslims mostly tyagis and rajputs,integrated easily along with other east punjab refugees in west punjab

    • @KaliYugaSurfer_
      @KaliYugaSurfer_ Год назад

      @@chandankumargantayat8926 yup

    • @nitishsaxena1372
      @nitishsaxena1372 Год назад +4

      ​@@VedJoshi.. not exactly. Muhajir means immigrant and in this context, this term is used for all those people who migrated to Pak from India during partition, minus Punjab because they only moved from one part of Punjab to the other. Thus, muhajirs do include North India but there have been South Indian migrants too. Hyderabad is obvious but also from Mumbai, Tamil Nadu and Kerala.

  • @rohitsuri5982
    @rohitsuri5982 Год назад +1

    Encyclopedia
    State should take services of both of you
    When we have such massive talent
    Mr Muneer !

  • @RajaGidhh
    @RajaGidhh Год назад +11

    Congrats for reaching 100k. Two hours of pure knowledge.

  • @Adolphout
    @Adolphout 11 месяцев назад

    A walking encyclopedia- This interview was a privilege to watch

  • @tahirsajjad4323
    @tahirsajjad4323 Год назад +25

    I don't know what I love more, your 69 jokes or the fact that none of your guest actually get these jokes

  • @usama.nasar18
    @usama.nasar18 Год назад +2

    Most interesting podcast so far. Keep doing good work.

  • @tayyabahabib7453
    @tayyabahabib7453 Год назад +4

    Ohhhh God very informative podcast, mujhy LG rha hai k may Pakistani hi NAHI hon 😂 I mean really don't know about these all, Thanks bro

  • @techgeektw
    @techgeektw Год назад +1

    Can you please start sharing links of articles, books etc that the guest shares. WOuld be appreciated.

  • @indrajitgupta3280
    @indrajitgupta3280 Год назад +3

    Brilliant presentation by Aamir Mughal.
    It was painful to hear the constant deprecatory references to 1971, and to the Bengalis, and the attempts to drag them into the fault zone, but that is, possibly, the contemporary justification for what happened, and what was done.
    Just a small doubt - in March 1971, was it not Taslimuddin Ahmed who was IG East Pakistan? Aamir Mughal mentioned some other name; perhaps that other person was IG earlier?
    As for being genuinely Bengali, it is quite true that Fazlul Huq, a native of Barisal, was a born and bred Bengali, but it is puzzling how Khwaja Nazimuddin, Huseyn Shaheed Suhrawardy, Mohammed Ali Bogra are all summarily dismissed from being 'genuinely Bengali'.
    Khwaja Nazimuddin was a member of the Dhaka Nawabi family, and his elder, Salimullah, was a founder of the Muslim League in 1906. The last member of that family to be known to the public was Runa Laila's first husband, the elder son of the well-known Khwaja Mohammed Kaisar, former Ambassador to China, who organised Kissinger's visit to China.
    Huseyn Shaheed Suhrawardy was from a prominent Bengali family; his father was a High Court judge in Calcutta. He nearly managed to bring an undivided Bengal into the status of a third Dominion, parallel to Pakistan and to India.
    Mohammed Ali Bogra was born in Barisal, but belonged to the Nawabi family of Bogra (the two are widely separated; I have a grandparent from each). He was schooled in Bengal, studied at Presidency, and served in the foreign service. Why was he not a 'genuine Bengali'?
    Puzzling.
    The anchor clearly knew nothing about Bengal, and clearly couldn't care less, so it is not his fault, but Aamir Mughal Sahib should have known better.

  • @maryanne327
    @maryanne327 Год назад +1

    A very interesting conversation! I would like to give my two cents, as someone who was brought up by hanafis and now learning the other madhabs as an adult; Hanafi school of thought is the most narrow and least moderate out of all 4 madhabs. 🤷‍♀️

  • @khanjehangir60
    @khanjehangir60 Год назад +3

    Amir mughal sahib one of my favourite personality on twitter, it was more fascinating listening & seeing him today❤❤❤❤

  • @maheenaziz5075
    @maheenaziz5075 Год назад +1

    Thankyou for this content, we really need to know real history, kids n youth these days should see both sides, unfiltered history

  • @ayeshatoor1223
    @ayeshatoor1223 Год назад +12

    It makes me so angry to think all the lies taught me about Pakistan history in school.
    Loved this episode. Thank you!

  • @RazaNaqvi51214
    @RazaNaqvi51214 3 месяца назад

    Awesome , Love it. Lots of references. 2024 ma kab aa raha han Sir ? ❤

  • @alyaaziz1949
    @alyaaziz1949 Год назад +8

    At first I was angry that why he wasn't giving a definite answer and asking us to read but now I think this is the correct approach because he is asking us to form opinions ourselves and not imposing his opinions on us like Syed Muzammil and some other people do. In the latter approach, people are just kind of brain washed and their opinions are not formed on a solid basis. Ajkal ki generation ko bas har cheez instantly chahye :( Bilkul sahi kaha he k jo hamare dimagh men he wo likhna nahi chahye, bht carefully research kar ke likhna chahye. When we will read ourselves then we can disagree with him too and wouldn't be a blind follower.

    • @alyaaziz1949
      @alyaaziz1949 Год назад

      @@liliths_ Are you on his payroll? All these experts with cock sure opinions shape the views of the gullible youth not people like me who can see through the fallacy of a lot of their opinions. I am studying in the US and you will teach me what philosophy is? go get a life bro!

    • @alyaaziz1949
      @alyaaziz1949 Год назад

      @@liliths_ Some of the nonsense he said has been exposed by Dr Taimur. This guest didn't say a word about things he didn't know or wasn't following which is a quality I highly appreciate and not everyone is humble enough to accept their limitations and end up misinforming others.

    • @alyaaziz1949
      @alyaaziz1949 Год назад

      @@liliths_ And WTF is Diana and Roma? Were you watching these before you achieved your emotional maturity after listening to Syed Muzammil?

    • @samibabar9543
      @samibabar9543 Год назад

      @@alyaaziz1949 lol saying people shouldn't brainwash themselves by listening to opinions, and then quoting Dr Taimoor 🤣 In that logic you're also brainwashed by Dr Taimoor.

  • @ahsanzaman1562
    @ahsanzaman1562 Год назад

    I support Imran Khan but I agree with Amir sb's critique. He seems like a very clear headed person

  • @rootjay
    @rootjay Год назад +23

    Hope everything gets on track in Pakistan 👍

    • @AB-media15
      @AB-media15 Год назад +10

      Han bhai , taki zaldi se kashmir mai phir insurgency shuru ho jaye, border per seize fire cancel ho ke phir firing ho dba ke, madarsas active ho jaye, kasab phir aaye . Zaroor.

    • @Aashu299
      @Aashu299 Год назад

      Don’t know why some fellow citizens are so dumb.

    • @mylord3003
      @mylord3003 Год назад +5

      ​@@AB-media15true. Some Indians are showing sympathies to the wrong people

    • @nitishsaxena1372
      @nitishsaxena1372 Год назад

      ​@@AB-media15 *jaldi

  • @skippper2345
    @skippper2345 Год назад

    Through u guys ...i know pakistan more than majority of Pakistani

  • @chandbibi6132
    @chandbibi6132 Год назад +5

    I am not journalist,I am comedian it's good to know what you want😊

  • @mussabsmart2
    @mussabsmart2 Год назад +1

    Very informative and helpful

  • @aimenjafri8341
    @aimenjafri8341 Год назад +8

    Aamir mughal uncle folding his hands the whole time. Explains his nervousness.

    • @ahmedmukhtar6961
      @ahmedmukhtar6961 Год назад

      Because he’s bullshitting 😂 he sounds like an establishment apologist

    • @baybars3138
      @baybars3138 Год назад

      He seems big talk only

    • @billumandal
      @billumandal Год назад

      He is excited

    • @baybars3138
      @baybars3138 Год назад

      @@billumandal about what, he said lots of correct things, but for others he didn't give one reference.

  • @kanizkhan2763
    @kanizkhan2763 Год назад +1

    Well pleased that you have reached hundredths thousands subscribers. May it go to millions. I have done my part sharing and encouraging like minded friends to join to make a force to change desperately required to bring stability it cries for. The ordinary people are suffering decision taken by elites...

  • @yasirchhipa
    @yasirchhipa Год назад +1

    Series of podcast with Aamir bhai??? Yes please

  • @cerealkiller5599
    @cerealkiller5599 Год назад +8

    This podcast in a nutshell:
    Shahzad: How did that happen?
    Aamir Mughal: Go read the x book
    Shahzad: Okay, I got it but can you explain a little.
    Aamir Mughal: Listen here you little shit, read the damn book!

    • @taiebxr
      @taiebxr Год назад

      😂😂😂😂

  • @NasirAli-cb2rd
    @NasirAli-cb2rd Год назад

    This guest is knowledgeable. Here I saw criticism on Hamed Gul and other generals, and on the same time admiring AR SIDDIQI, And even then many young people want to join arm forces.

  • @dugyan
    @dugyan Год назад +10

    Glad somebody has the honesty to point the finger at the person fundamentally responsible for the mess that is Pakistan--Jinnah. It's time people stopped treating him as an infallible deity, especially people like Shehzad who like to style themselves as critical thinkers.

    • @mantasha_binte_idrees.20
      @mantasha_binte_idrees.20 Год назад +1

      Everyone is biased towards one or something. Will you may disagree, we still have some points in support of him if we think something practically.

    • @SaltLake180
      @SaltLake180 Год назад

      Jinnah didn’t create this mess. It’s the establishment and the corrupt politicians who are responsible for derailing Pakistan.

    • @madmax-bu6wh
      @madmax-bu6wh Год назад

      At least in India there is a critical and threadbare discussion of Gandhi and Nehru.

    • @alyaaziz1949
      @alyaaziz1949 Год назад +1

      @mad max it's nothing more than propaganda done by BJP through their whatsapp university IMO. There is nothing critical about it.

  • @gulistankhan8096
    @gulistankhan8096 Год назад +2

    "Imran khan aisay hain nai k apni ghalti ko apna naam den" 😂 the awkward silence 😅😅😅 100/100 for saying it with a straight face and mr.mughul didnt even give a smirk 😂 acting skills 🔥

  • @ranand089
    @ranand089 Год назад +17

    Must read 1880s book by Max Muller “what India can teach us”

  • @latakhatri2906
    @latakhatri2906 Год назад

    Sach bolne vale humesha talkh hote hai,magar hume unhe sunne ka sahas rakhna chahiye ❤.

  • @samibabar9543
    @samibabar9543 Год назад +3

    Extracted some of the references from the podcast while listening it, the list is long yet not complete..
    Munir Report - Punjab Disturbances Court of Inquiry (1954)
    Jinnah: His Successes, Failures and Role in History Ishtiaq Ahmed
    Jinnah: A Life - Yasser Latif Hamdani
    Jinnah: Speeches and statements 1947-1948, compiled by S. M. Burke
    KK Aziz - Murder of History
    Policing In Pakistan - M.A.K. Chaudhry
    All Those Years - M.A.K. Chaudhry
    Reminiscences from Bengal - M.A.K. Chaudhry
    From Jinnah to Zia by M. Munir
    Shahābnāmah -Qudrat Ullah Shahab
    Charlie Wilson's War - George Crile III
    To read about Joanne Herring (served as the honorary consul) refer to Anjum Niaz (journalist)
    Who Killed Zia? Edward Jay Epstein (American journalist), 1989
    East Pakistan: The Endgame - A.R. Siddiqi(former head of ISPR)
    Pakistan Ki Siyasi Tareekh (12 Volumes) - Mr. Zahid Chaudhry
    State and Religion in the Perspective of Muslim History - Hasan Jafar Zaidi
    Almia Tareekh(Urdu) - Dr Mubarak Ali
    Kiranchi Wala - Akhtar Hussain Baloch (3 volume series)
    Karachi: Megacity of Our Times - Hamida Khuhro
    India Wins Freedom - Maulana Abul Kalam Azad
    Abul Kalam Azad's interview given to Agha Shorish Kashmiri, 1946
    On the question of Benazir
    UN Commission of Inquiry, 2010 (inconclusive)
    JFK 1991 (flick)
    Umar bin Al-Khattab: His Life and Times (Vol.2) - Dr. Ali M. Sallabi
    Maulana Modudi Kay Sath Mayri Rafaqat Ki Sarguzisht Aur Ab Mayra Moaqqaf By Shaykh Muhammad Manzoor Nomani (the beard question)
    -----------------------
    _New perspective on Urdu_
    Munshi Nawal Kishore (published more than 5000 books in Arabic, Bengali, Persian, Sanskrit, Urdu during 1858-1885)
    Ram Babu Saksena ( History of Urdu Literature, 1927)
    Dr Gian Chand (works on Ghalib, Iqbal and linguistics in Urdu)
    From Hindi to Urdu: A Social and Political History - Tariq Rahman
    Language and Politics in Pakistan - Tariq Rahman
    ----------------
    _Muslim nationalist historians_
    S. M. Ikram
    I.H. Qureshi
    Moeen ul Haq
    Naseem Hijazi
    ========================
    _Scholatic critiques on Maududi by_
    Abdul Kalam Azad
    Sanaullah Amritsari (Khitab ba Maududi)
    Sufi M.Sarwar
    Abdul Majid Daryabadi (Kharijiyat-e-Jadeeda)
    Ashraf Ali Thanwi
    Hussain Ahmed Madani
    Yusuf Ludhianwi
    Yousuf Banuri
    Zakariyya Kandhlawi

    • @breakthechin
      @breakthechin Год назад

      lol you beat me to it,i was also compiling,i have also commented the list anyway,there must be some mistakes in mine or might have missed some ,anyone looking for the list can seek out both of our comments hopefully

  • @kumarutsav3528
    @kumarutsav3528 Год назад +1

    One of the best ones u had done so far buddy.. i would like a second one with him more open with less mentioning books for others to read.. we r gen Z after all

    • @kumarutsav3528
      @kumarutsav3528 Год назад

      A bit of focus from Aamir Mughal sahab on the history of Pakistan, and the way things should head on in future... A way forward by a true patriot of Pakistan. Some one who has served Pakistan with his heart..

    • @ALATIF2.0
      @ALATIF2.0 Год назад

      ​@@kumarutsav3528😊

  • @agnosticatheist4093
    @agnosticatheist4093 Год назад +4

    44:15 Yes, Epstein names several individuals who he believes may have been involved in the assassination of Zia-ul-Haq. These include:
    General Akhtar Abdur Rahman, the head of Pakistan's Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) at the time of the crash. Rahman was a close ally of Zia and was known to be opposed to his policies.
    General Mirza Aslam Beg, the chief of army staff at the time of the crash. Beg was also a close ally of Zia and was known to be ambitious.
    Air Marshal Asghar Khan, the former chief of air staff. Khan was a critic of Zia and had been outspoken about his opposition to the military's involvement in politics.
    Lieutenant-General Hamid Gul, the former director-general of the ISI. Gul was a close ally of Rahman and was known to be a hardliner.
    Epstein also names several individuals who he believes may have had motive to kill Zia. These include:
    The Soviet Union, which was opposed to Zia's support for the Mujahideen in Afghanistan.
    The United States, which was concerned about Zia's nuclear weapons program.
    A faction within Pakistan's military or intelligence community that was opposed to Zia's policies.
    It is important to note that Epstein's book is based on circumstantial evidence and that he does not provide any definitive proof of who was involved in the assassination of Zia-ul-Haq. However, his book has raised important questions about the cause of the crash and the possibility that it was a deliberate assassination. These questions remain unanswered, and it is likely that the debate over the crash will continue for many years to come. 😊

  • @fazalnajam
    @fazalnajam Год назад +5

    Thank you Shehzad. Aamir sb, with respect, how do you expect Islam (or religion) not penetrating (or being used) when it's the core part of our societal being? Its completely illogical to think that a human being when given (representative) power would not inculcate his ideologies, culture & belief into governance. It's like saying we only have brains but no hearts! I respectfully disagree that we don't have to start from 1947 rather start (correction) at an individual level if we want progressive governance and sovereignty.

    • @SuggarRushh
      @SuggarRushh Год назад

      True. All powers use the masses culture and religion to gain vote. That’s why propaganda is a subject we all must master

    • @KhurramShahzad-kr1qw
      @KhurramShahzad-kr1qw Год назад +1

      جناب عامر صاحب، موروثیت حرام نہ ہوتی تو کربلا میں مولا حسین ع اپنی جان کا نذرانہ نہ پیش کرتے۔ دوسری بات کہ اسلام میں خلافت حضرت علی ع تک تھی۔ اس کے بعد سے ملوکیت نافذ ہوئی۔ آپ کا علم دین کے بارے میں بہت ناقص ہے لیکن ہماری نئی نسل جسے اپنی تاریخ کا علم نہیں، آپکی طرح کے مسخروں کو اپنا ہیرو بنالیتی ہے۔
      اللہ رحم فرمائے ہماری قوم پر۔

  • @abdulmoizbutt5546
    @abdulmoizbutt5546 Год назад

    Maulana Moududi is one of the best Islamic scholar, Islamist ideologue, Muslim philosopher, jurist, historian, journalist, activist described by Wilfred Cantwell Smith as "the most systematic thinker of modern Islam." All of these other Islamic scholars wrote against him because of his book Khilafat O Malookiyat which is a double edged sword for the sects. His books literally invigorated people. His Tafsir of Quran is regarded as the best after Tafsir ibn Katheer. Those who say sentences against him because they wanted to achieve what he achieved. If any of you read two of his books Deeniyat and Khilafat O Malookiyat you will understand why people are against him.

  • @farhankhan_mm
    @farhankhan_mm Год назад +12

    Congratulations on reaching 100k subscribers! This is an incredible milestone that showcases your talent, dedication, and the impact you've made on your audience. Your hard work and commitment have paid off, and it's clear that your content resonates with people around the world. Here's to the next chapter of your journey, where the possibilities are endless. Keep creating amazing content, inspiring others. Cheers to you and your success! #chatGPTContentWithMyFeeling😌 #100kSubsStrong.

  • @wasay8105
    @wasay8105 Год назад +1

    That's one difficult conversation