@@royaltybot23if mashing buttons were the whole point of the game then people would not be making videos about which characters take skill and take no skill.
Also him : " Bugs bunny is one of the best characters in the game and once you learn how to up air and spam his zoning attacks it takes a lot of skill"
@@redead8513not at all what he said if you spam your up air you won’t do shit if you just do that and his zoning attacks are not that easy against better players
@@ryanmonostori9306 nuh uh, he is basically letting us now he can't play zoners and it takes skill for him I'm not saying that he is literally saying what I mention before but he is actually saying a thing that can goes well for any character in this case Batman once you get skill with this character, this character takes no skill and I'm saying he said the same for Bugs bunny but his conclusion where different and is pretty strange I have seen a lot of Bugs Bunny players being good and none being bad and I haven't seen a lot of batman's and those who I saw where average but I get what he said, the character takes skill but once you get the skill is an easy win just like Bugs Bunny
@@redead8513 I feel that it’s a lot harder to master bugs than Batman but I guess I do disagree that Batman is no skill, because I used to main him in the beta where I felt he was really easy to play as I got 300 wins with him and I tried playing him again in the new release and I just didn’t find him as fun as rushing down zoners harder than before, but I feel like for general players his combos would be really easy to pick up where he’d get some bs nockback
Most projectiles hit for 1. "Heavy hitting" ones, like Rick's full charged laser or his rocket do 3. Bug's safe and giant rocket hit for 10. That one card hits almost as hard as Bugs's safe, and has a cooldown of 5 seconds. And that's not even taking the 3 cards attack, which actually hits harder than Bugs's safe/rocket (11 damage in total)
Saying bugs bunny takes skill because he is a complex character but then saying Batman takes no skill is definitely hypocrisy. Both have higher skill floors and skill ceilings. You can’t just abuse Batarang and grapple cause of projectile perks, armor, cooldowns, hitting Batman out of the grapple. If your opponent knows what dodge is batman can’t kill at low percent without good execution and reads. His uppercut while strong doesn’t have a wide hitbox likes bugs, joker, Harley, Jason, etc. for killing off the top. Also a low skill player isn’t capitalizing on the utility and combos Batman has. Batman is a straightforward and fluid character, but he doesn’t take no skill.
Cmon now, batman doesnt have any setup for his baterang or his grapple he just uses it when he pleases, his up special and uppercut have ridiculous hitboxes and are extremely strong, both moves can be used whenever you please thanks to a the baterang that you are literally forced to airdodge, batman is absolutely broken and takes no skill
@@Veriflied bro you can hit him out of grapple even if it connects. His batarang has a long cooldown if he doesn’t retrieve it. If he uses batarang in neutral then he can’t as easily use it for kill combos. Wouldn’t say he takes insane skill, but he’s not on the same level as banana guard. Also again his uppercut isn’t as op as a lot of others and doesn’t kill at quite the low percent many others do.
@@Verifliedsaying bugs takes skill when banana guard has basically the same moveset is insane😭😭 all more that you get w bugs is a rocket and safe aside from that they’re basically the same no skill characters
@@VerifliedI’m a Batman main since the beta I can send u my clips of my baterang setups just to show u that Batman has combos and u need skill just to do crazy stuff with him
Feel free to look up my stats my name is Veriflie, In 1v1s top 2% Finn (I was 200 or so I believe) Top 4% bugs top 6% harley, top 2.1% morty in 2s 70% ones win rate etc
@@Veriflied u might bne good but nmot like insane, when u put it into percents it sounds way better than it actually is, I'm pretty sure with enough play time u can get to those numbers without even being that skilled.
as 1 of 4 taz mains i’d like to mention his kit is a lot more versatile than just “tornado and up-B” and utilizing his moveset takes a lot more skill than characters like gizmo
What complexities does bugs have. Kills early, amazing projectiles. Takes common sense to learn the safe. And I haven’t seen side b used in any bracket tournament
yeah he was probably threatened to say it takes skill, when i tried black adam, i had to do like 16 combos to get a single knockout, and then bugs gets like 50-70 damage off a single combo
@@bigwill6724yh black Adam Is a decent character but he has little kill potential imo I feel like the only move that it is really good for killing is neutral air, bugs bunny on the other hand...
Tbh Rick is a hard character to main but I got a hang of it after playing more and you can do a bunch more combos once you play with rick more and more.
He judged Morty perfectly i will say that. Im a Morty main and i swear only his up air confirms kills and a lucky grenade. He has no burst attacks at all and literally no kill power. Morty indeed takes mad skill to use rn.
You keep saying “this move is insane look how much dmg it does” and thats your wholr argument why it takes no skill is just bad. I get thats your opinion but putting jason as harder than Joker and wonderwoman is just senile
Actually no I think he's right about Jason his grounded Up special is garbage because the combo you're supposed to use it in is not true and you can dodge out of it, the only use you get out of it is when someones caught slippin with the combo or when there off the stage tryna get back up, not only that but Jason is HELLA slow and faster characters can easily dodge a lot of his stuff so it takes a lot of skill and accuracy to actually land most of his hits and combo's, his charge is predictable in 1v1's and his down special and down slam rarely hits when your in the air because the hitbox is so bad on them and since you're so big as Jason most the time when you go for it you end up getting hit with an up special or a up attack instead
Good argument but bad example. Jason IS harder than WW and Joker. Joker's combos are bread and butter, he has projectiles, armor break, amazing neutral, no down side at all. WW also has one of the most insufferable move sets of the roster, they're all very fast while being a TANK, can't punish her well, good armor and no down sides other than the player's skill You can argue Jason is easy because you can fairly easily win with him without actually knowing how to play him unlike WW n Joker but once you cross the "been playing for a week" stage (aka become good) it's uncomparable how tough it is to win compared to other fighters
Ngl a good rick is one of the scariest things, like if they know how to put u in the portal and bring u back to them they hit some of the longest craziest combos I’ve ever seen in this game
@@Verifliednot really offended by anything you said in the vid but yeah you just don’t really know what you’re talking about when it comes to this game. That’s ok though it’s just content
I agree with everything except morty, if you run his hammer signature perk its so op because there is no attack decay that would stop you from infinately spinning.
@VERIFLIED I think a character can be bad and have no skill to play and vise versa. For example, if banana guard had lower damage and was C or B tier he'd still be a character with no skill. Yes it'd be harder to win, but utilising him is still easy. Just like how Tom is S tier yet extremely skillful and most people wont be able to utilise him. Just cause a character is bad doesnt mean they now take skill to use. It just means they're easy to use but still suck.
Nah more like he said every character he uses takes skill and the ones he loses to take no skill, notice how he said “when I played harley it used to take skill” but now she doesn’t lol
Batman grapple can be interrupted pretty easily by damn near everyone in the game, if his grapple gave him hyper armor then he'd be busted, but also it's not a fast attack if you dodge it Batman gets caught lacking, or just side special/down special for Arya
@@YMan-zo5kgRick’s portal is used as recovery and it enables more options with his projectiles. Rick himself isn’t suppose to a combo god like a good Harley instead he’s a zoner, a keep away character.
As a Joker, Jason, and Garnet main…are you sure Garnet is the worst? I mean down special is a very useful recovery and it can pick up anyone between you and the star or your ally, the rocket fist is great in combos or keeping distance, I still don’t know what rhythm does but I think it’s a buff so I use that when I can breath. Her side standard does multiple hits and ends with that ground slam. I’m no where near as good with Garnet as I am Jason but I would hardly call her the worst when Morty is asinine to use
Glad to see another brother I play garnet too lol. She’s heavily underrated…. Don’t skip on nair bruh that shit is crazy. Fair 1 + side standard + into rocket or grounded up b. Her fair is chefs kiss
Thumbnail is 100% rage bait not watching just commenting and before anyone says I gave him a view, those don’t count until you’ve watched for 30 seconds lol
@@miguelplays2921nah i play him i think dont do that yet, its too early. he's in a good place in A tier, not broken, but not terrible at all, imma enjoy what he is rn
the fact this has more dislikes than likes says it all HOLY SHIT idec if this video is "old" or whatever, you know like nothing about the game saying gizmo is bad is crazy most of this si more about the players than the characters "it depends on the finn player" so does finn take skill or not??? personally i think a character that can 0 to death you, INSANE neutral that's extremely fast dosent take much skill but that's just me
pretty much saying all high tiers take no skill is dumb zato-1 in strive pre nerf was INSANE but took hella skill to learn needing to do alot of complex shit to use eddie effectively
I’m just saying this right now Rick mains deserve more respect because they have to go through a shit ton of skill to be where they are at and as a Rick main myself it is very hard to main him he is so underrated
Morty’s can have a badge that spins you around the hammer Morty, so I’d say either you can make him skilful, or make him cheesy to play. Especially against Jason. Especially against Jason.
9:33 for me Shaggy is easy to play at low levels, at high levels he is strong but everything he do is so clear that if your enemy has fought a Shaggy before he know everymove, so you actually need to time everything.
I started maining garnet last week. I haven’t had any problems with her. It definitely takes skill to set her up. She seems like a top tier fighter and she is a powerhouse, not to mention she has a very useful recovery.
The iron giant segment is insane considering he got removed for having not one, not two, but FOUR ToD combos. I doubt you can ever called playing a dark souls boss “skilled”
As a Jason and Rick main, I appreciate you brotha. Jason is so slow when you get in a combo, your screwed. But Rick if you play your cards right and have a good combo and good stage it’s an easy win.
saying bugs takes skill when he has always been the second best character and in the current patch he also is in the most powerful state he has ever been in and batman takes no skill I mean you got some other good takes but that just ruins the rest of the credibility
some of bugs stuff can take some time to get used to but you don't have to use the safe and rocket stuff to play bugs, you just nair, up air, and down air lol
Tldr "These characters are S tier therefore take no skill. These characters are F tier therefore require skill" Although i know what you mean it would have been nice to have more depth as to why. Example in league of legends singe, annie, and garen are simple champions but what do plays who are at a higher level of skill do that get them to higher levels of play? The micro and macro plays that build to winning a lane and winning a game etc.
lmao, this is a fighting game (some people in the fgc might disagree) literally doesn't matter, at the end of the day who's winning anyway. characters with high skill ceiling rewards you by having a creative way to approach the game and not all players want to play a fucking character with 100 setups and combo routes..
I literally played 3 games of online since real release and now the only people I get have never touched a woman in their life. It's hard to learn and get better when moves always get overridden and I get combo'd to oblivion by pushing a button (Not to mention the thousands of moments where the hitbox feels bigger than the move animation)
U made Harley seem so easy to pick up when she’s not her range isn’t that good she can get hit of her string by another characters long range string most characters in this game lunge foward when using their string but Harley doesn’t rlly have that and her hitbox is more lower now her charged attack in air can be punished very easily by running away or dodging and since it has rlly bad end lag so u will be punished her side air has pretty bad end lag as well you also have to know how to use her bomb well and how to attach it consistently you have know where to place her down special Harley isn’t just a character anyone can pick up and master
Tbh this guy is getting a lot of hate for minor mistakes or personal opinions on behalf of other people. The only thing i think hes wrong about is gizmo being bad
Just cause a character has good combos doesn't mean they don't require skill, I've been learning black adam recently and if you try that combo against a real person you're either getting dodged or just hit before his side heavy can land, every character is easy against a bot not dodging or fighting back
I disagree with Tom and Jerry sure you can learn complex moves but his up special close up is probably the best ko moves on ground in this game and a won 4 games in a row picking him up for the first time
A someone who plays both, saying that batman takes absolutely zero skill but iron giant does is a goofy ass take. Even without his infinites he still has an annoying burst you can throw out at anytime, insane killpower, and his strings are very easy and spammable. Meanwhile oustide of the batarang bomb which is pretty easy to dodge, batman's not really that linear compared to Bugs or Finn
As a tom and jerry main tom and jerry is not a top tier to me maybe an A tier... Toms very slow compared to the rest of the cast his combos arent as complex most are grounded his frying pans hitbox is broken and against smaller characters jerry can go over them which means the hitbox for jerry is really really bad. He's to fast for the tennis balls in most scenarios making it tough to get those insane setups and while he does have nice moves his down spike being slow making spiking useless... His rocket only doing 11 while leaving him vulnerable for a couple seconds meaning if they dodge free hit while they can dodge it cause its hard to control while fishing rod is nice its also a big risk cause it also leaves him vulnerable for a second. Another thing is tnjs hitbox is fair which in this game isnt a very good thing cause you can't really play life in 2s anymore triple dynamite is really solid but most times they'll just run away and press you afterwards. Trap is also weird cause running into it doesnt always spring the trap until like a couple seconds afterwards. Tnj is still really good but his problems are alarming... This is coming from id say a really good tnj main id say A tier in 1s depending on who you have a tier. Play against a really solid finn as tnj who spams projectile shield and spams sword as tnj if you wanna feel how powerless the character is some scenarios its laughable.
Do you think Superman is a good long game, tank category character, that I can play for a long time to come. Just wondering because I’m planning on putting more and more time into him so I just want to get another players opinion.
Ever since open beta superman has had a lot of upside, he’s nerfed a bit with his up special not being able to throw up or down but he’s way more than just armour. Extremely fast and able to kill at low dmg if you catch grounded or air side special into neutral light in the air. Armour is his plus side when you know how to use it strategically instead of spamming.
Bro u are actually trolling. Saying shaggy isn’t top 6 in the game is wilddddd. Hes so op right now. Banana guard and shaggy are exactly the same in their 50/50 game. It’s so op getting killed at 42 from mid stage WHILE DI’ing as a middle weight like joker. And I main gizmo, he is not a bad character or mid at all. I for sure know ud change ur mind if you owned him. He’s wildly powerful.
Yes, Rick is garbage. I main him cuz he cool. Also down tilt funny. I just wish his portals recharged faster. Seriously in the show you see him shooting multiple portals at once then in this game he shoots one portal and oops, gotta wait till next year to do it again.
@@YMan-zo5kg no you just have to punish so they can’t dodge out of it if you don’t time it correctly and they do you can still hit them and get a free combo
@@litfamnick5453 no i have Rick unlocked and have been in the lab testing combos. Portal barely works off his jab string even when done correctly, that said I’ve not playing him in a real match, but I doubt there is a training mode bug for why it’s not working. I’ve tried off a couple different characters including Harley, shaggy, and Jason. I’ve done the jab string and the laser into jab. I’ve done low and high percent. Mostly doesn’t work unless you turn big mode which is kinda impractical in real matches.
@@robbediekarotte9087 At this point I would just do his jet ski into forward joystick into up neutral or forward forward forward because portal setups and punish combos are too hard for casual players, but if you really want to learn them then I would just look on youtube, but most of them are outdated so do them in training put dodge after hit-stun on Bot then correct the combo then learn setups
A lot of Iron Giant is just resource management. He easily has some of the best tools in the game, massive hit boxes, a burst that can kill at zero near the blast zone, even flight, but he needs meter to take advantage of any of it. If you learn how to use his tools and combo routes, he’s one of the best characters in the game. If not, he’s just combo food
I haven’t played this game but for a lot of these characters it appears you mistaking how good the character is vs whether or not that character takes any skill, those two things are not the same thing, a character having strong moves doesn’t make them easy nor does a character having weak moves make them hard, they certainly can affect each other but those two things are different aspects of any hero or character based game
Fun vid but Gizmo is not a mid tier character my g and it also depends on how you play garnet to decide her skill ask she can win the game through sending her star off stage, jab and then grab their opponent 3 times and that’s it she won. (My friend a Garnet main and I tested that last night and it’s a very consistent exploit). At the time of this video gizmo got his arrow back from hitting you and car had not been to touched nor had side special (no whiff) he low profiles everything and arrow (ground special and Nair) is a free neutral win. Car did something like 30 damage. His vertical game it’s still just amazing . But Gizmo got to the final of a major tournament through 2 moves. He’s in the conversation of Top 3 with WW Steven just falling short of joker and Harley
you didnt go over stunlocks, hit lag, startup lag, character acceleration, hitboxes, frames of action, next actionable frame, di, sdi, mix ups, techs, and soooooo much more, please take these into account when talking about how good characters are
It’s literally up to the player. One player could be VERY skillful with let’s say Finn, but another player could absolutely suck with Finn but be amazing with Bugs. It’s completely up to the player and how they like to play and what move set they prefer, not up to some random guy saying which is what is good for themselves to do (Super Smash bros is still better anyway)
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“once you figure out this skill, this character takes no skill”
Exactly what I said 💀
Pressing b is not skill
@@Veriflied that is literally the entire point of the game is to mash buttons that hit your opponent
@@royaltybot23if mashing buttons were the whole point of the game then people would not be making videos about which characters take skill and take no skill.
@@Lookgusfingersarethebestyou know characters can have just better normals than others that’s Wonder Woman is top 3 right now
Batman: "once you get skill with this character, this character takes no skill"
Also him :
" Bugs bunny is one of the best characters in the game and once you learn how to up air and spam his zoning attacks it takes a lot of skill"
@@redead8513not at all what he said if you spam your up air you won’t do shit if you just do that and his zoning attacks are not that easy against better players
@@ryanmonostori9306 nuh uh, he is basically letting us now he can't play zoners and it takes skill for him I'm not saying that he is literally saying what I mention before but he is actually saying a thing that can goes well for any character in this case Batman once you get skill with this character, this character takes no skill and I'm saying he said the same for Bugs bunny but his conclusion where different and is pretty strange I have seen a lot of Bugs Bunny players being good and none being bad and I haven't seen a lot of batman's and those who I saw where average but I get what he said, the character takes skill but once you get the skill is an easy win just like Bugs Bunny
@@redead8513 I feel that it’s a lot harder to master bugs than Batman but I guess I do disagree that Batman is no skill, because I used to main him in the beta where I felt he was really easy to play as I got 300 wins with him and I tried playing him again in the new release and I just didn’t find him as fun as rushing down zoners harder than before, but I feel like for general players his combos would be really easy to pick up where he’d get some bs nockback
“Watch this, if I throw this joker card it does a ridiculous amount of damage” (it did 7 damage)
7 for a card
Most projectiles hit for 1. "Heavy hitting" ones, like Rick's full charged laser or his rocket do 3.
Bug's safe and giant rocket hit for 10.
That one card hits almost as hard as Bugs's safe, and has a cooldown of 5 seconds. And that's not even taking the 3 cards attack, which actually hits harder than Bugs's safe/rocket (11 damage in total)
you're actually fuckin stupid if you dont think jokers card is insane, all you did was name dmg numbers and not speed of application.
7 damage for a long range move with no ability to punish since he throws it so fast…
Are we not gonna talk about parrying nor dodging
“This combo takes no skill”
My brother in Christ you are fighting a bot
As a Velma main I'm just glad someone even remembered I'm still here
Shoutout to the 3 of you velma mains out there
Bro likes to torture himself 💀
I’m definitely one of the 3 lol shoutout all 3 velmas
There used to be a lot of Velma players in beta thank god cause I hated going against Velma
@@Nigels_Wrldshe used to be overpowered they nerfed her so bad
Saying bugs bunny takes skill because he is a complex character but then saying Batman takes no skill is definitely hypocrisy. Both have higher skill floors and skill ceilings. You can’t just abuse Batarang and grapple cause of projectile perks, armor, cooldowns, hitting Batman out of the grapple. If your opponent knows what dodge is batman can’t kill at low percent without good execution and reads. His uppercut while strong doesn’t have a wide hitbox likes bugs, joker, Harley, Jason, etc. for killing off the top. Also a low skill player isn’t capitalizing on the utility and combos Batman has. Batman is a straightforward and fluid character, but he doesn’t take no skill.
Cmon now, batman doesnt have any setup for his baterang or his grapple he just uses it when he pleases, his up special and uppercut have ridiculous hitboxes and are extremely strong, both moves can be used whenever you please thanks to a the baterang that you are literally forced to airdodge, batman is absolutely broken and takes no skill
@@Veriflied u clearly havent played batman in real matches
@@Veriflied bro you can hit him out of grapple even if it connects. His batarang has a long cooldown if he doesn’t retrieve it. If he uses batarang in neutral then he can’t as easily use it for kill combos. Wouldn’t say he takes insane skill, but he’s not on the same level as banana guard. Also again his uppercut isn’t as op as a lot of others and doesn’t kill at quite the low percent many others do.
@@Verifliedsaying bugs takes skill when banana guard has basically the same moveset is insane😭😭 all more that you get w bugs is a rocket and safe aside from that they’re basically the same no skill characters
@@VerifliedI’m a Batman main since the beta I can send u my clips of my baterang setups just to show u that Batman has combos and u need skill just to do crazy stuff with him
Ofc he said his main takes skill
Bro he does lmao, Morty has fairly weak moves, most with a strong delay
Ok I just got Morty and he’s like actually really hard to use props to this guy for maining him
its one of the worst characters
@@Sus-kg5xm nah just has mostly bad moves, the good moves are very solid
He is really biased towards Morty but I must admit he does take skill
Bro 😭 this video takes 0 skill
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bro does not have the skill to be talking
Feel free to look up my stats my name is Veriflie, In 1v1s top 2% Finn (I was 200 or so I believe) Top 4% bugs top 6% harley, top 2.1% morty in 2s 70% ones win rate etc
@@Veriflied top 200 finn was absolutely nothing. hell, i was like 87 and i was under 6000 mmr
@@Veriflied u might bne good but nmot like insane, when u put it into percents it sounds way better than it actually is, I'm pretty sure with enough play time u can get to those numbers without even being that skilled.
@@k0smiccc Buddy please tap in to any of my gameplay
@k0smicc288 You haven't played the game much I see😂
Maining Rick is a pain in the ass but I commit to it because I simply love the character and probably my favorite out of the entire roster
Amen bruthur...
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He has combos you’ll just never hit them in a match
Seriously? I main Rick and win like 90% procent of matches with him
@@MikomikYTsame
as 1 of 4 taz mains i’d like to mention his kit is a lot more versatile than just “tornado and up-B” and utilizing his moveset takes a lot more skill than characters like gizmo
"Gizmo takes skill"
Gizmo: **Laughs in Umbrella**
"Gizmo is a bad character"
Gizmo: **Laughs in Umbrella**
He definitely takes skill
@kombokhan I went in a match and just spammed umbrella and won. Idk what else to say, man. 🤷♂️
@@Khan-_-Art1sthe really doesn't
@@unlikelyhydra926 That you fight bad players? Not that farfetched to be the case.
Batman did get nerfed in many ways. If there is some type of learning curve, it takes skill
What complexities does bugs have. Kills early, amazing projectiles. Takes common sense to learn the safe. And I haven’t seen side b used in any bracket tournament
Bugs up air is better than Harley up b. Bugs kills earlier and has more range
Iron Giant got taken out the game because of how many infinites he had
Shaggy is a normal character. He’s made for beginners and can easily be countered. Takes some skill
"Black Adam is easy but Bugs Bunny take skill" I left after he said that.
😂
yeah he was probably threatened to say it takes skill, when i tried black adam, i had to do like 16 combos to get a single knockout, and then bugs gets like 50-70 damage off a single combo
@@bigwill6724yh black Adam Is a decent character but he has little kill potential imo I feel like the only move that it is really good for killing is neutral air, bugs bunny on the other hand...
Yeah the fact too that hes like ‘ive never played him but dont i look pro guys?? Look at me!!’ While doing a non combo on a cpu that isnt moving…😂
Same
As a morty main, thank you for saying what we were all thinking. Its the hardest character to use, and we’re still the best.
Tbh Rick is a hard character to main but I got a hang of it after playing more and you can do a bunch more combos once you play with rick more and more.
GIZMO MID HUHHHHHHHHH NAH YOU ARE TROLLING BRO
Gizmo is bad bro
@@Verifliedput more time into using him, gismo is good the major downside is his weight but he's a great character
@@Veriflied incorrect.
@@Veriflied delusion
@@Veriflied1v1 me then I’ll prove to u gizmo op you’re just too smooth brained to play him
He judged Morty perfectly i will say that. Im a Morty main and i swear only his up air confirms kills and a lucky grenade. He has no burst attacks at all and literally no kill power. Morty indeed takes mad skill to use rn.
You keep saying “this move is insane look how much dmg it does” and thats your wholr argument why it takes no skill is just bad. I get thats your opinion but putting jason as harder than Joker and wonderwoman is just senile
Wonderwoman is actually skill-less bro look at my newest video
Actually no I think he's right about Jason his grounded Up special is garbage because the combo you're supposed to use it in is not true and you can dodge out of it, the only use you get out of it is when someones caught slippin with the combo or when there off the stage tryna get back up, not only that but Jason is HELLA slow and faster characters can easily dodge a lot of his stuff so it takes a lot of skill and accuracy to actually land most of his hits and combo's, his charge is predictable in 1v1's and his down special and down slam rarely hits when your in the air because the hitbox is so bad on them and since you're so big as Jason most the time when you go for it you end up getting hit with an up special or a up attack instead
the ww take was crazy 💀
@@GoId3nWrIdI aint reading allat
Good argument but bad example. Jason IS harder than WW and Joker. Joker's combos are bread and butter, he has projectiles, armor break, amazing neutral, no down side at all. WW also has one of the most insufferable move sets of the roster, they're all very fast while being a TANK, can't punish her well, good armor and no down sides other than the player's skill
You can argue Jason is easy because you can fairly easily win with him without actually knowing how to play him unlike WW n Joker but once you cross the "been playing for a week" stage (aka become good) it's uncomparable how tough it is to win compared to other fighters
Ngl a good rick is one of the scariest things, like if they know how to put u in the portal and bring u back to them they hit some of the longest craziest combos I’ve ever seen in this game
On god bro a really good Rick main can be insane Rick is literally the top 3 hardest characters to main
I don’t think you have enough knowledge to make a video like this u just talking fr
Let me guess, your character didn't take skill
@@rocketman63397 pretty sure buddies a Wonder Woman main
@@Verifliedur trash my guy. gizmo is broken and u said hes bad
@@Verifliednot really offended by anything you said in the vid but yeah you just don’t really know what you’re talking about when it comes to this game. That’s ok though it’s just content
listen all S tier and S+ tier characters are that rank because they are easy
I agree with everything except morty, if you run his hammer signature perk its so op because there is no attack decay that would stop you from infinately spinning.
That move cant kill confirm and deals no damage, its annoying but not broken
Bro really just did a backwards tier list to call all the bad characters skillful and all the good characters skilless
I mean tbf wouldn't that make sense?
That's the whole point bro, usually the low tier characters take more skill to play that's just common sense
@VERIFLIED I think a character can be bad and have no skill to play and vise versa. For example, if banana guard had lower damage and was C or B tier he'd still be a character with no skill. Yes it'd be harder to win, but utilising him is still easy. Just like how Tom is S tier yet extremely skillful and most people wont be able to utilise him. Just cause a character is bad doesnt mean they now take skill to use. It just means they're easy to use but still suck.
@@VerifliedBatman is a high tier character and takes skill to go crazy with in matches
Nah more like he said every character he uses takes skill and the ones he loses to take no skill, notice how he said “when I played harley it used to take skill” but now she doesn’t lol
Shaggy still has too much kill potential. His up tilt is practically his most broken move. that's scary enough
Batman grapple can be interrupted pretty easily by damn near everyone in the game, if his grapple gave him hyper armor then he'd be busted, but also it's not a fast attack if you dodge it Batman gets caught lacking, or just side special/down special for Arya
I literally just fought a Wonder Woman, they just shield countered me the whole time
Rick is not bad whatsoever he has a lot of potential watch bhands
He’s definitely a very difficult character tho but he doesn’t have as much reward compared to the crayon-eating character banana guard
Every character has potential bro
Rick’s portal is so inconsistent for combos and a lot of his moves have inconsistent hitboxes
@@YMan-zo5kgRick’s portal is used as recovery and it enables more options with his projectiles. Rick himself isn’t suppose to a combo god like a good Harley instead he’s a zoner, a keep away character.
@@DefinitelyaVa Tom and Jerry is a zoner and he has combos. Make it make sense. Tom and Jerry also has better zoning.
BTW skillfull doesnt describe a characters with a lot bad moves it describes a character that u have to put a lot of hours to master
that iron giant take is crazy
As a Joker, Jason, and Garnet main…are you sure Garnet is the worst? I mean down special is a very useful recovery and it can pick up anyone between you and the star or your ally, the rocket fist is great in combos or keeping distance, I still don’t know what rhythm does but I think it’s a buff so I use that when I can breath. Her side standard does multiple hits and ends with that ground slam. I’m no where near as good with Garnet as I am Jason but I would hardly call her the worst when Morty is asinine to use
Dude,it’s on if the character takes skill or not,not how good they are
@@RanchInPants I’m aware but he actively says garnet is the worst. I’d say that goes to Velma
Glad to see another brother I play garnet too lol. She’s heavily underrated…. Don’t skip on nair bruh that shit is crazy. Fair 1 + side standard + into rocket or grounded up b. Her fair is chefs kiss
@@simonwong7807 all garnetts just spam their side b
@@RanchInPants it has a cool down 😩sorry but you can’t spam it
Thumbnail is 100% rage bait not watching just commenting and before anyone says I gave him a view, those don’t count until you’ve watched for 30 seconds lol
batman is definitely a skill character, his hits are weak and do little damage and a lot of his specials are counterable and dodgeable
yeah hopefully bro gets a buff im dying against gizmo and black adam but not wonder woman and bannana guard or iron giant 💀
@@miguelplays2921nah i play him i think dont do that yet, its too early.
he's in a good place in A tier, not broken, but not terrible at all, imma enjoy what he is rn
Homie calling characters bad because they require skill to play (Marvin and Steven) just shows his takes are completely brain dead
he said Iron Giant is bad 💀
@@Okami400he never said that it’s because in 2v2s he so easy to play but in 1v1s you need a lot of skill to play him or else your dead
@@maxxbarrera8845 He was also busted in 1v1s. This was months ago though so it doesnt matter.
the fact this has more dislikes than likes says it all HOLY SHIT
idec if this video is "old" or whatever, you know like nothing about the game
saying gizmo is bad is crazy
most of this si more about the players than the characters
"it depends on the finn player" so does finn take skill or not???
personally i think a character that can 0 to death you, INSANE neutral that's extremely fast dosent take much skill
but that's just me
pretty much saying all high tiers take no skill is dumb
zato-1 in strive pre nerf was INSANE but took hella skill to learn needing to do alot of complex shit to use eddie effectively
Good to know my characters are skilled
I use Rick, Morty, and Marvin.
As a tom and jerry main i admit i have no skill but he is still fun to play
I’m just saying this right now Rick mains deserve more respect because they have to go through a shit ton of skill to be where they are at and as a Rick main myself it is very hard to main him he is so underrated
Morty’s can have a badge that spins you around the hammer Morty, so I’d say either you can make him skilful, or make him cheesy to play. Especially against Jason. Especially against Jason.
9:33 for me Shaggy is easy to play at low levels, at high levels he is strong but everything he do is so clear that if your enemy has fought a Shaggy before he know everymove, so you actually need to time everything.
He defends the characters he plays, and speaks ill of those he doesn't know how to play against. What a big joke
I started maining garnet last week. I haven’t had any problems with her. It definitely takes skill to set her up. She seems like a top tier fighter and she is a powerhouse, not to mention she has a very useful recovery.
This guy has no idea what he’s talking about
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The iron giant segment is insane considering he got removed for having not one, not two, but FOUR ToD combos. I doubt you can ever called playing a dark souls boss “skilled”
3 lol
As a Jason and Rick main, I appreciate you brotha. Jason is so slow when you get in a combo, your screwed. But Rick if you play your cards right and have a good combo and good stage it’s an easy win.
Yeah cause maps with walls Rick is broken
Idk of they fixed it, but in the beta you were also able to do Tom's air attacks on the ground lol. I use to always do them on the ground 🤣
As a morty main i appreciate you saying that i am skillful
Does Finn take skill? Well I guess that just depends on who's using him. 😂😂😂 lol what?
saying bugs takes skill when he has always been the second best character and in the current patch he also is in the most powerful state he has ever been in and batman takes no skill I mean you got some other good takes but that just ruins the rest of the credibility
some of bugs stuff can take some time to get used to but you don't have to use the safe and rocket stuff to play bugs, you just nair, up air, and down air lol
Tldr
"These characters are S tier therefore take no skill. These characters are F tier therefore require skill"
Although i know what you mean it would have been nice to have more depth as to why.
Example in league of legends singe, annie, and garen are simple champions but what do plays who are at a higher level of skill do that get them to higher levels of play? The micro and macro plays that build to winning a lane and winning a game etc.
He can't make a video talking about high-level applications of these characters because he doesn't even know how to play a good quarter of the roster.
lmao, this is a fighting game (some people in the fgc might disagree)
literally doesn't matter, at the end of the day who's winning anyway.
characters with high skill ceiling rewards you by having a creative way to approach the game and not all players want to play a fucking character with 100 setups and combo routes..
This is bait bruv
I literally played 3 games of online since real release and now the only people I get have never touched a woman in their life. It's hard to learn and get better when moves always get overridden and I get combo'd to oblivion by pushing a button (Not to mention the thousands of moments where the hitbox feels bigger than the move animation)
U made Harley seem so easy to pick up when she’s not her range isn’t that good she can get hit of her string by another characters long range string most characters in this game lunge foward when using their string but Harley doesn’t rlly have that and her hitbox is more lower now her charged attack in air can be punished very easily by running away or dodging and since it has rlly bad end lag so u will be punished her side air has pretty bad end lag as well you also have to know how to use her bomb well and how to attach it consistently you have know where to place her down special Harley isn’t just a character anyone can pick up and master
I legit picked her up in 15min. Maybe it's because I played ALOT of smash bros but still. I don't mind her combos, she just does a bit tto much damage
Never let bro cook again
as a tom & jerry main, i can confirm that i spent time in the lab while the online servers were down
as a steven universe main, your right, but you forgot to mention the upspike...
As an iron giant main i have to confirm that its so hard to win in a 1v1 but quit easy in a 2v2
Tbh this guy is getting a lot of hate for minor mistakes or personal opinions on behalf of other people. The only thing i think hes wrong about is gizmo being bad
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Just cause a character has good combos doesn't mean they don't require skill, I've been learning black adam recently and if you try that combo against a real person you're either getting dodged or just hit before his side heavy can land, every character is easy against a bot not dodging or fighting back
Now when my new controller comes ima gonna have to spend so much time in the lab to master tom and jerry again
As a garnet main, i see this as an absolute win
real
bruh he really said garnet was the worst character in the game how is that a win (lowkey hurt cause im a garnet main too)
Being a jake user I can say I get slapped up a lot when I play against meta players like the recent Batman mains and joker
In my opinion black adam normal attack are pretty confusing cause some of his moves launch the character the opposite way
I disagree with Tom and Jerry sure you can learn complex moves but his up special close up is probably the best ko moves on ground in this game and a won 4 games in a row picking him up for the first time
Morty being a “low tier character” is a wild take
As a Rick main, this video hit me personally 😢
Love the and jerry analysis
A someone who plays both, saying that batman takes absolutely zero skill but iron giant does is a goofy ass take. Even without his infinites he still has an annoying burst you can throw out at anytime, insane killpower, and his strings are very easy and spammable. Meanwhile oustide of the batarang bomb which is pretty easy to dodge, batman's not really that linear compared to Bugs or Finn
Bro jus yappin about batman😭😭😭 batman takes skill at a high level
Jason is the closest thing to a traditional smash bros char
Morty and Tom & jerry take the lease amount of skill just sit back run and spam projectiles for Tom and then Morty spam walls and grenades
As a tom and jerry main tom and jerry is not a top tier to me maybe an A tier...
Toms very slow compared to the rest of the cast his combos arent as complex most are grounded his frying pans hitbox is broken and against smaller characters jerry can go over them which means the hitbox for jerry is really really bad.
He's to fast for the tennis balls in most scenarios making it tough to get those insane setups and while he does have nice moves his down spike being slow making spiking useless... His rocket only doing 11 while leaving him vulnerable for a couple seconds meaning if they dodge free hit while they can dodge it cause its hard to control while fishing rod is nice its also a big risk cause it also leaves him vulnerable for a second.
Another thing is tnjs hitbox is fair which in this game isnt a very good thing cause you can't really play life in 2s anymore triple dynamite is really solid but most times they'll just run away and press you afterwards. Trap is also weird cause running into it doesnt always spring the trap until like a couple seconds afterwards.
Tnj is still really good but his problems are alarming... This is coming from id say a really good tnj main id say A tier in 1s depending on who you have a tier.
Play against a really solid finn as tnj who spams projectile shield and spams sword as tnj if you wanna feel how powerless the character is some scenarios its laughable.
jake isnt that hard once you get used to him especially with his slowing perk for his up special
i’m not saying batman’s hard or easy but the logic behind your ranking for him is silly imo. “he’s easy once you know how to play him well”
I just wanted to say that Wonder Woman players are CARRIED
As a Jason main, everything you said are straight facts!
Do you think Superman is a good long game, tank category character, that I can play for a long time to come. Just wondering because I’m planning on putting more and more time into him so I just want to get another players opinion.
Ever since open beta superman has had a lot of upside, he’s nerfed a bit with his up special not being able to throw up or down but he’s way more than just armour. Extremely fast and able to kill at low dmg if you catch grounded or air side special into neutral light in the air. Armour is his plus side when you know how to use it strategically instead of spamming.
I’m a Harley main btw, casually play supes cause he’s pretty essy on the surface but if you grind him for real supes is a demon.
It’s like saying once you know how to drink water it takes no skill😂
Except you cant cancle out of any of his moves so your committing 90% of the time with black adam
Am I crazy or did you skip Marvin the Martian?
You’re crazy
literally talks about him at 13:15
@tactu666 oh wow, no wonder I missed it! He only spoke about him for what feels like 10 seconds!
Characters like Batman especially take skill in 2v2s, in 1v1s it's a different story.
Bro u are actually trolling. Saying shaggy isn’t top 6 in the game is wilddddd. Hes so op right now. Banana guard and shaggy are exactly the same in their 50/50 game. It’s so op getting killed at 42 from mid stage WHILE DI’ing as a middle weight like joker.
And I main gizmo, he is not a bad character or mid at all. I for sure know ud change ur mind if you owned him. He’s wildly powerful.
Yes, Rick is garbage. I main him cuz he cool. Also down tilt funny. I just wish his portals recharged faster. Seriously in the show you see him shooting multiple portals at once then in this game he shoots one portal and oops, gotta wait till next year to do it again.
Rick has combos you just don’t know how to use him
Anything with the portal is super particular and inconsistent
@@YMan-zo5kg no you just have to punish so they can’t dodge out of it if you don’t time it correctly and they do you can still hit them and get a free combo
@@litfamnick5453 no i have Rick unlocked and have been in the lab testing combos. Portal barely works off his jab string even when done correctly, that said I’ve not playing him in a real match, but I doubt there is a training mode bug for why it’s not working. I’ve tried off a couple different characters including Harley, shaggy, and Jason. I’ve done the jab string and the laser into jab. I’ve done low and high percent. Mostly doesn’t work unless you turn big mode which is kinda impractical in real matches.
jo where can i find these combos, i am desperate at this point
@@robbediekarotte9087 At this point I would just do his jet ski into forward joystick into up neutral or forward forward forward because portal setups and punish combos are too hard for casual players, but if you really want to learn them then I would just look on youtube, but most of them are outdated so do them in training put dodge after hit-stun on Bot then correct the combo then learn setups
A lot of Iron Giant is just resource management. He easily has some of the best tools in the game, massive hit boxes, a burst that can kill at zero near the blast zone, even flight, but he needs meter to take advantage of any of it. If you learn how to use his tools and combo routes, he’s one of the best characters in the game. If not, he’s just combo food
Bro he's got a true impossible to di infinite
Iron giant mains are literally god tier when it comes to 1v1s
I haven’t played this game but for a lot of these characters it appears you mistaking how good the character is vs whether or not that character takes any skill, those two things are not the same thing, a character having strong moves doesn’t make them easy nor does a character having weak moves make them hard, they certainly can affect each other but those two things are different aspects of any hero or character based game
Bugs baseball bat actually takes stocks on 100 bugs takes a bit of skill
Yo lowkey that track you put on for Lebron is a beat to listen to when you playing him, it fits really well and it gives off that basketball vibe yk
While using tom-"i mean how many ppl are gonna be able to do this"*shoots jerry then spams nuetral.* As a tom main this hurt
stripe main here, he’s absolutely right, he’s the best character and easy to play tbh
Fun vid but Gizmo is not a mid tier character my g and it also depends on how you play garnet to decide her skill ask she can win the game through sending her star off stage, jab and then grab their opponent 3 times and that’s it she won. (My friend a Garnet main and I tested that last night and it’s a very consistent exploit). At the time of this video gizmo got his arrow back from hitting you and car had not been to touched nor had side special (no whiff) he low profiles everything and arrow (ground special and Nair) is a free neutral win. Car did something like 30 damage. His vertical game it’s still just amazing . But Gizmo got to the final of a major tournament through 2 moves. He’s in the conversation of Top 3 with WW Steven just falling short of joker and Harley
“Mesicks”💀
Idk why I watched this whole video but basically from what i am getting is if the character is good it takes no skill to use them 😂
this whole video is a CRAZY take💀
*loud incorrect buzzer*
you didnt go over stunlocks, hit lag, startup lag, character acceleration, hitboxes, frames of action, next actionable frame, di, sdi, mix ups, techs, and soooooo much more, please take these into account when talking about how good characters are
8:48 rick shrank and did an animation like “ df u mean?”
no way this guy just called bugs bunny complex😭😭😭
i need whatever this guy is on fr fr
It’s literally up to the player. One player could be VERY skillful with let’s say Finn, but another player could absolutely suck with Finn but be amazing with Bugs. It’s completely up to the player and how they like to play and what move set they prefer, not up to some random guy saying which is what is good for themselves to do (Super Smash bros is still better anyway)
Bro what did you smoke?