Singapore Airlines: Police investigating ‘terrible tragedy’
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- Опубликовано: 21 сен 2024
- “A whole lot of issues have been revealed by this awful incident.”
Officials in Bangkok are investigating the “terrible tragedy” which left one dead and 71 wounded passengers as a Singapore Airlines flight hit by severe turbulence, says Simon Calder.
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laughable, what are they gonna do arrest the air? it was an extreme case of turbulence that wasnt detectable so nothing could have been done to prepare for such an event. pilots have already come out and said that in their entire career they have never seen extreme turbulence sionce it is that rare and most only see severe turbulance a handful of times.
Thought exactly the same, still, no doubt some slimy lawyer will find someone to sue
People would take you more seriously if you made the effort to capitalise your sentences.
Injured and dead people showed up in an area where those police operate. They would have gone to local hospitals and the dead man to a local morgue. As such, the police are quite correctly involved.
@@toby-xo6rb Sadly grammar, spelling, and punctuation are almost extinct these days, even with help from various computer programs.
I was reading some comments by commercial pilots saying a particular type of radar system requires pilots to do a lot of extra manipulation and interpretation because the radar doesn't pick up the top of ice capped clouds, you have to adjust the data to estimate and have the gain turned right up. Some small errors by the pilots could have resulted in them not avoiding areas they should have avoided. The comment I read were in relation to this exact event.
Hardly anything to investigate, no seatbelt on, air turbulence, stress, old age, heart attack. Case closed
Air turbulence is common. What are seat belts for?
Turbulence is an example of mother nature at her worst and there's nothing we can do about it, so why is there a police investigation are they going to arrest her?
The heading is misleading. It's not a police investigation, but rather one involving aviation and transportation authorities from USA (NTSB) as it involved a US made plane (Boeing), Singapore and possibly Thailand.
"People tend not to listened to the safety briefing" OK so are you suggesting these people who were in the toilets at the moment of the sudden event are to blame for their own injuries? What about the man who allegedly died from a heart attack? How is HIS death related to wearing or not wearing seatbelts?
Why is anyone to 'blame'? If you don't wear your seat-belt you increase your risk. That's the only point.
So who would you charge, seeing how it was atmospheric turbulence. Maybe have diapers for everyone and keep them all seated all the time? Still wouldn't have stopped him dying though 🙄
the guy had a heart attack hardly singapore airlines fault.
Pointed taken, but cause and effect. Had he not been placed in a stressful situation, perhaps lack of oxygen a possibility, he might not have a the heart attack. For his age and long flight, I'll also presume he didn't have a previously known condition of the heart. And given the timeframe, there hadn't been a PM done I'd imagine.
@@andrearoyd2942A PM will be done, according to a Thai official, to confirm whether it was heart attack, which they suspected.
What is a terrible tragedy?,do you mean a tragedy?,it is terrible by definition!🙄
That's a common saying. You are yelling at clouds.
What caused the turbulence? Were the pilots alert? What warnings did they issue? So many questions.
😢Clear air turbulence is not detectable
you already have the answer and its been documented on new stories aswell. the police investigating is laughable what they gonna do arrest the air?
@@xNSHD prepare the report. There will be a huge insurance case.
@@sarahann530Yes, its quite laughable. Its really sad that the man died, but turbulence is a real risk when flying. Anyway he died of a heart attack, presumably with shock. I swear the older i get, the weirder the world gets 😳😩
Turbulence doesnt always give warnings, which is why when seated you're asked to keep your seat belt fastened in case of unexpected turbulence.
I’m literally flying to Singapore from Heathrow in August and now I’m so scared😭😭
Why?
@@nickhayes4169 because I’m scared the same thing might happen to me
@Purple_.Duck.. the odds are extremely low, leave your belt on & remember that turbulence never causes a plane to go down.
@@nickhayes4169 ok thank you
Come on! It's not a 'tragedy'. One person died from a heart attack. People die of heart attacks on flights every day. Turbulence is the leading cause of injury during commercial air travel, which is why we are told to keep our seat belts fastened when seated. The "This must never happen again" mentality is excessive harm avoidance. We should accept that occasionally nature gets the better of us and take the consequences. Are we now to be strapped in tightly for 14 hour flights to avoid the one in a million risk of death (as opposed to some injury) while increasing our DVT risk ten-fold? Why are we obsessed with finding someone to blame?
Here here.🙄
“Finding someone to blame” is perfectly reasonable in this situation - commercial planes have software that prevents such extreme turbulence taking effect on craft, and the failure of that software is something that sincerely needs to be considered for everyone’s safety. And at the end of the day, someone died - have some empathy.
@@starrybubble3632 "commercial planes have software that prevents such extreme turbulence taking effect on craft " Nonsense. There should of course be an investigation to see if any lessons can be learnt. For the families, the death of an elderly man from a heart attack is very sad. For the airline industry and the world at large it is not a newsworthy event.
@@RicktheRecorder Of course it’s news worthy - from an empathetic point of view, it’s traumatised a whole group of people and killed someone. From a corporate point of view, it’s a commonly experienced situation that is guaranteed to stir up fear and engagement, making more money for parasitic news companies. And whether it’s news worthy or not isn’t of concern here; I was highlighting how your phrasing came across as unempathetic
@@starrybubble3632 Millions of people die every day. That is dreadful for each of their close friends and families. But to everyone else it is just normal life and death. I am not going to empathize for the world, and often empathy gets in the way of doing something concrete. The media feed off horror, melodrama and prurience, especially if they can find an unusual or gruesome way of dying. I am resistant to that, and I think more people should be, so that we can concentrate on making rational improvements to our environment for the greater good.
Investigating why the dead and injured ignored the fasten seat belt sign appears to be a complete waste of time and money.
Think they said there was no time to instruct the passengers so sign lights up but too late.
Good seat belt advice from Simon.
Is this a news story? You are going to get wind and turbulence when you fly. Keep your seat belt on when seated. Its that simple. For the crew , it is a job related risk. As a pilot i have experienced a lot of turbulence and you just have to deal with it.
Shocking about the Old Man died.On the flight from Singapore to London and there's, and Investigation underway it's how is.Should and there's other, Passenger in Hospital, I'm praying for others.🙏
When seated, my seat belt is fitted.
There nothing to investigate.
2:48 Ok so during that turbulence on your flight did the plane tilt upwards and nearly stall?
Actually there is nothing to discuss yet. If they are concerned and critical about what happened because one life of their people lost, why is that they were not concerned at all when their airliner had a mishap inside their land.
Was it a turbulence itself that caused this mayhem or rather the way the plane malfunctioned in the face of a turbulence? The fact that the plane first tilted upwards and THEN started shaking and then momentarily lost altitude - as was reported yesterday by Reuters - has been quietly dropped from the media reports today and the narrative that since it was a turbulence nothing could be done about it is being pushed instead.
Yeah i dont understand it either , probably code for pilots fighting over the controls , there isnt that amount of ''free work''/ftlb just hanging around in the clouds they're +200 tonne planes the amount of work required to shake a plane around like that is probably several mega watts .
A sudden updraft followed by a downdraft of the air currents is a likely cause due to the local weather patterns according to a report on CBC.
One would very much hope the police stay out of the investigation and the Singapore TSIB are left to conduct their own investigation for the Singapore Ministry of Transport.
If it happened and landed in Thailand, then the Aviation authority in Thailand should also be involved. No such thing as a foreign entity doing investigations in a country, and the country just let it go with no say. Those kind of mentality should be scrapped off.
Many people were hurt and someone died. The injured and dead showed up in the area those police covered and will be reported as such. The police have to be involved. But I can't see them getting involved in the air side of things because they simply don't have the expertise.
The US NTSB (US made plane) will be involved with the Singapore authorities and possibly Thai, as plane made emergency landing in Thailand.
@@ahmadyusof2480there's standard international aviation protocols involving investigations. No worry that Thailand will not be involved, as emergency landing was in Bangkok. The US is already sending a 5 member team as it involved an American made plane.
After all the Boeing whistleblower deaths I'm not surprised there's silence around the plane being from boeing. I don't doubt that clear turbulence played a role but it's weird how no one is questioning the safety of the actual plane itself
Its to do with a bolt missing from the falanges, but im not prepared to testify to that..i enjoy living too much
Were the pilots negligent in not circumventing a storm? - Planes have forward weather radar, and other pilots at same flight height and ahead of this flight normally would also helpfully report. Always keep seatbelt fastened!
It depends. If it's clear air turbulence, there's no current technology to detect it. We will have to wait for the investigation report, which will look at what the weather conditions were at that moment, whether those conditions were detectable, etc etc.
I have really gone off Simon Calder since that ridiculous advice about not adhering to covid travel rules he was spouting during the Pandemic. He should have been cancelled then. He isn’t fit to be advising anything
Advising not to follow covid rules sounds like good advice to me.. shame more didn't listen!
same , im happy sky dropped him for travel advice , spreads alot of miss information
@@RandomVideosFirstuntil that “ disinformation” becomes fact
Typical human hysteria and overreaction. Seems to me there is more to this than just turbulence. There needs to be an intensive examination of the plane.
It is already happening. Singapore aviation investigation team is already in BK, and the US NTSB is sending a 5 member team over as it involved a US made plane. I believe Thai authorities hv already started going through the plane.
Why the police .
I thought this happened in 2019
I've always kept my seatbelt on, it is just common semse. Have they blamed it on climate change yet?
What’s to investigate the people hurt themselves fckin sit still turbulence is nout
Probably bill Gates weather manufacturing
Which police force is going to investigate? 😂
The sky police.
never been on a flight with them basically because there quite expensive but lucky there wernt to many other passengers injured .flying to thailand in a few weeks .the turbulence isnt that bad normally over land not like over the atlantic hope its just a one of went 3 times to thailand last year hardly any turbulence more turbulence over the atlantic .sorry the guy died but your taking a chance being 73 and travelling .
Police ? Will they be investigating god, the weather man ?
imagine being in the toilet when it happened
Would have been an epic poo, I wonder if it would have hit the ceiling.
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Operation Mockingbird.
it was a boeing.
I won't be keeping my seat belt on thank you
Sound's iffy to me
yeah investigate how the forces of nature work... 🤣🤣🤣
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