Greek 1: Do you understand them? Greek 2: Nope, its sounds like they are saying "Bar bar bar" all the time Greek 1: We shall call them "Barbarians" Thracian 1: Do you understand what they are saying? Thracian 2: Dunno, it's all greek to me!
During his campaigns in Thrace, Lysimachus became a captive of Dromichaetes, the king of the Thracians. In spite of the fact that Lysimachus was his grave enemy, Dromichaetes treated him hospitably and invited him to the banquet (while Lysimachus was still his prisoner). And on this banquet Dromichaetes asked Lysimachus whether he prefers the company of Macedonians or Thracians, on which Lysimachus replied "Macedonians". Dromichaetes then asked: "Why then, have you desired to abandon the splendid company of Macedonians and wander so far into the lands of the men whose company you do not enjoy". The story is told by Diodorus Siculus [21.12]
Thrax, if we take into consideration spoken languages close by Thracia would be related to Ancient Greek θώραξ (thṓrax, “a breastplate”). Thracians were a martial people and seems plausible to consider their name had to do with body-armor wore in battle. The linothorax (Ancient Greek: λινοθώραξ) is a type of upper body armor used throughout the ancient Mediterranean world. The linothorax appears to have been used in place of the bronze cuirass as the popular choice of armor for Greek hoplites, starting perhaps around the late 7th century and early 6th century B.C. The earliest attested account of a linothorax used for battle is recorded in Book 2 of Homer's Iliad (2.529 and 2.830). It is worn by Ajax the Lesser and is described in brief. It was used by armies of Alexander the Great, and its mentioned by other sources such as Herodotus (2.182, 3.47, 7.63), Livy (4.19.2-20.7), Strabo (Geography, 3.3.6, 13.1.10), and many other minor sources. The armor got its name from Illyrian (Alb.) “thurje” which means knitting or weaving (or texture).
Also there are still Greeks in southern Ukraine and parts of Russia - the few remaining Pontic Greeks after the Turks genocided / sent away most of them.
@@Syllaeus exactly genetic never lies that's why all Balcanians ,on you tube and almost half o Turks have all Greek DNA when they present their tests ,as about the Slavic invasion the Byzantines repell it suxesfull y ,Slave dident occypay not even one Big Greek City unlike the rest of the Balcans ,Google Byzantine Greece ,and you ll find out that the Byzantines after drove out the Slaves from the Hellenic Peninculla ,brink Greeks from South Italy ,the Ishlands and the West COast of M Asia in a policy of Rehellinization of the Peninsula
@@Syllaeus There are people who genetic are similar, but culture, attitude, aspiration of education, book reading, higine, or respect for others wellbeing, or private property, can be opposite, i am a batak tribe, savage, of 19 century, before Christian missionary of Denmark, Nommensen, educate batak about German civilisation, decorum, and ethnic of learning, which some old grandparent, said soo dicipline, than today indonesia most strict school, but, well, some highly educated are civilised, nice companion oleh lads, but some, are rude talker of other people problems, without the solution they carried, or reflected themselves. Ok, Thank you.
Ejjj forgot illyrian the Greeks have stolen stories and their language today is technical, they still do not agree that the first Greek parliament speaks the language of Albanian were Illyrian or Arber, and heroes they have changed the names 🤨🤨 is unfortunate
What most people don't know is that the word barbarians was not used as we use it now. It was practically a way to call someone who spoke different language than Greek. It was making fun of the noise the Greeks couldn't understand. Bar bar... Not joking. The word was made for the lack of knowledge of the language. With time this word became the word we know now, but it wasn't used like that in ancient Greece. Just a note from a Greek.
@Shark Next Door ok, except insults do you have any arguments for what you are saying? :) Or you just felt like insulting someone? You should seek therapy for that :))) Could you please explain why Greeks are brainwashed? I am happy to learn why you say that. Maybe you are right, but you need to say why you say that.
Great video as usual! I never paid too much attention to the shade thrown at the Thracians in the plays, this definitely adds more layers to the readings.
The word "barbarian" came to be, because of the way Greeks thought the non-greeks sounded like *bar bar*. Generally speaking they were just making fun of their language and their accent.
Mparmpar Write Translation in Albanian before before The city of the amazon named tanagra Tana gra In Albanian all women Amazon's A. Ma zonje Is more brave
It would be really interesting to see other cultures' interaction with greeks, like egyptians, italics, celts and iberians and scytians, you should make more vids about it!
What are you proud of? Inventing souvlaki and frappe? What do the ancient Greeks have to do with the citizens of the modern banana republic you live in which is bankrupt and last in most indicators in the European Union?
@@georgem3270 and where are you from your culture probably hasn't done a fraction off what the greeks have for civilization, there are very few people who can claim to have been as impactful to history as the greeks the rest off the world should thank them for all they have contributed regardless of the state off greece today , these people managed to keep there culture alive and well for hundreds off years all the while living under ottoman rule to eventually rise again as a small but still important nation , the same people who fought off the Persians and kept the roman empire alive for a extra thousand years are the same people who inhabit modern day greece
Actually the ancient Greeks when named someone" barbarian" they meant someone who is no Greek and perhaps don't speak Greek language no them without civilization!
@@shaunpalaiologos2417 so according to greeks babylonians, assyrians, persians, egyptians phoenicians had no civilization? Yeah i think its time to take those greeks of the pedestals.
@@jasonmuniz-contreras6630 Its very broad, alot of greeks did respect other cultures. Upper class greeks adopted achemaneid dress and style, and some famous greeks, most notably Alexander, held the Persians in extremely high esteem.
That's a very common mistake but absolutely NONE of the classical greeks actually believed that the amazons removed one breast. It is not once mentioned in Herodotus and there is absolutely no representation in art of classical greece or before that represent amazons warriors with only one breast. It's a very tardive tradition and a lot of historians in antiquity already knew that it was only an error of traduction.
Love these videos btw!! Great work. The location of Argilos is just on the south bank of the struma river, a little north of Stagira. You can see the archaeological site from the road, which is neat.
I think a video or series of videos on the Greco-Punic wars (other than the battle of Himera and the brief campaign of Pyrrhus, which you have already covered) would be very exciting.
I agree as someone who likes both the carthaginians & ancient greeks regarding style of architecture, seafaring & warfare The public interest on the greek-punic wars is pretty high and defo needs to be covered since these conflicts are so unique & exciting in its own way which led to both civilizations making technological advancements & maintaining a beneficial rivalry.
The background tune that starts around 13:10 is the Song of Seikilos, the only musical composition we have from the Classical world (late 2nd C.). The sheet music was discovered on a marble grave marker near Ephesus.
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Alexander the Great spoke Greek and was a disciple of Aristotle. Philip's father was taking part in an Olympic games which means he was Greek The mother of Olympias was a priestess of the god Apollo from Epirus The Greatest of the Greeks was not uneducated, nor a barbarian conqueror. He transferred Greek culture everywhere to the known world, founding many Hellenistic cities by transferring knowledge and arts and not violence and tyranny.
One who spoke greek language was not necessary a Greek . If Alexander or his father were Greeks or only hellenised , the Macedonians for sure were not Greeks but rather Thracians . Here we speak of different people , although both indo-europeans .
@@seaman5705 The Macedonians were absolutely, definitely Greek. With the amount of evidence we have for this fact, it's silly to even state anything else. The Thracians had a vastly different language in an entirely different PIE tree, and they had vastly different customs and rites.
@@TzvetozarCherkezov "The origin and identity of this people are much debated and are at the centre of a heated modern dispute between those who argue that this people should be considered ethnically Greek and those who argue that they were not Greek or that their origin and identity cannot be determined (see Researcher’s Note: Macedonia: a contested name). This dispute hinges in part on the question of whether this people spoke a form of Greek before the 5th century BCE; it is known, however, that by the 5th century BCE the Macedonian elite had adopted a form of ancient Greek and had also forged a unified kingdom." If you have any solid proof from before 5th century , I am ready to listen .
Alexander encouraged sacking the city of Persepolis, and did nothing to stop his soldiers from massacring and raping the civilians there. He then burnt the city to the ground destroying centuries worth of irreplaceable knowledge and culture from the Persian Achaemenid Empire, which is why we know so little of the empire that once held 44% of the world population. He was a conqueror and a warlord who should not be romanticized. There is a reason he was long afterward known as Alexander the Accursed to the people of Persia.
Good video. Miltiades, the hero of Marathon married a Thracian princess, and Themistocles, the victor of Salamis probably had a Thracian mother. Many prominent Athenians, in addition to Thucydides, had links to Thrace.
Sometimes men just want something wild. I am of Chinese descent and chinese women can't turn me on in bed. While latinas make me feel as if it's my last night on earth.
@@achillesrodriguezxx3958 that's sounds very greek of you, are you sure you don't have any greek roots? ( a common stereotype greeks are having for them selves is that greek people especially men prefer foreigners for bed than their own)
@@Pavlos_Charalambous Haha now that you mention this, i should get a DNA test just for fun. Maybe this explains why i always had such an interest in Greek history.
Concerning the impact of “peltastai” in Greek warfare, check the battle of Lechaio and the General Ifikratis. As far as I know, this is the first defeat of the Spartan phalanx from the peltastai. In Spactiria it was mostly, a siege.
hahahahhahahahaha roman hipster wearing his pants to his dad: "they are people too, you know", "here we go again with the bleeding heart, they are savages, they attack eachother and then they come and raid roman land", "its not roman land, dad. it belongs to its people.", "they lost it when caesar decided so", "oooh again with that strongman clown, he is a fucking joke", "HE GAVE MONEY TO THE PEOPLE", "IT WASNT HIS MONEY, HE BUTCHERED THOSE POOR PEOPLE IN GAUL AND LOOTED EVERYTHING, NO BETTER THAN THE SAVAGES YOU SO DESPISE", "YOU ANTIROMAN LITTLE SHIT", "WHEN THE PROLETARIAT WILL UNITE YOU WILL ALL SEE, OLD MAN, A UNITED WORKING CLASS ACROSS EUROPE WILL BURN EVERYTHING THAT IS ROTTEN AND ESTABLISH A NEW DIVINE REPUBLIC", "THAT JEW IN GALILEE TAUGHT YOU THAT SHIT?", "HE IS THE SON OF GOD", "HE IS JUST A HIPPIE LIKE YOU, JUPITER WOULD NEVER GO NEAR HIS UGLY MOTHER"
Just curious how is Thessaly and Epirus non existent here? Thessaly is one of if not the oldest Greek province. It's history is well documented and is where the hero Achilles was supposed to be from.
Cause this channel is trying in the most subtle way to separate Thrace,Macedon,Epirus,Thessaly from Greek history. They cant do it openly since their majority of audience is historically informed and educated but every now and then they seize the opportunity to depict their new world order directive to de-hellenize anything!!!
Thank you for this contribution. The history of the Thracians is pretty much overlooked. Even being a Slavic speaking country, Bulgaria has a huge Thracian heritage, not only cultural but also genetical. Recent studies have shown that we have more Thracian than Slavic DNA which wouldn't surprise anyone who is familiar with the Bulgarian history... Have a Happy New Year!
Happy new year man. Can you provide the studies on how a mix of slavs and Bulgars (by Bulgars i mean the Volga Bulgars) have genetic similarity with the Thracians which they were already Hellenized by the time when they (Bulgarians) came centuries later in the region of Thrace?
Briefly, the Thracians were linguistically assimilated by the Slavs just as the old Romano-British population was linguistically assimilated by the Anglo-Saxons. They however left a significant genetical heritage - up to 40% of the genes of the modern Bulgarians.
@Ghost Ghost You talk about the Volga Bulgars which yes are of Turkic origin but they migrated in the lands where the slav are living and by assimilation the Bulgarians are born the slavs provided the language and the Bulgars the the state organisation (the slavs didn't have any state this time)
The Thracians were mostly hellenized during the hellenistic ages . Phillip and later Lysimachus founded many cities inside Thrace , which acted as beacons of hellenic culture . Modern day Bulgarians have no real correlation to the ancient thracians ; only way a cultural similarity could have been achieved is through intermixing with the Greek population they ruled over after settling in the lands south of the Danube .
This is the simplified Greek interpretation. Part of the Thracians were romanized, many others preserved their language and identity until the Slavic invasion. It seems that the Thracians and the Slavs intermingled quite well. At the end of the day the Bulgars arrived and the nation was forged. The process was completed more or less until the end of the 9th century...
I am curious too but I don't think this would make a large video. We don't know much about Illyrians as their language had no writing. The relation was bad though, Illyrians had several fights against Greek Kingdoms until Alexander the Great sieged their fortress and made a pact with them.
@@szarekhthesilent2047 I only remember one case which they fought in a Greek city side. They were not considered Greeks in general. Every time Greeks united against a foreign threat Illyria was out of this. They were known pirates and their dream was to conquer Western Greece (Epirus etc). They almost did it once while the Greek cities were in decline and asked the Romans for help.
@@AJKecsk Women back in Ancient Greece especially during the Archaic Period didnt have short hair(at least most of them). They just usually tied their hair which were very long actually in knots and different kinds of hairstyles that they considered as a form of norm or fashion back then. Of course this happened during all the historical periods of ancient Greece.
I wouldn't mind seeing more video's on how the Greeks interacted with other people's. But what I want to see more than anything is the next video on the Imjin war. I've been waiting a longtime for it to come. My compliments to all those who made this video a reality.
I gotta say I really like the video, but I'm not really happy with a few artistic choices. One of them is how the greek companions of Heracles were depicted in the early part of the video; seeing how most greek legends take place in the bronze age, an attempt to draw them in actual mycenaean panoply would have been a very appreciated detail. Another one is at 11:15 where both sides are just spartans with different designs, as in the spartans on the right are depicted with what they would have worn before the persian wars (full-face corinthian helmets, muscled breastplate, etc), while the athenians on the left are shown with what actual spartans during the Peloponnesian War would wear (crested pilos helmet and linothorax). Moreover, those "athenians" are a less popular google images result when you google "spartans". Again, these are just details and the video itself is quite good, but these details make it look like the art direction simply slapped together a few stock images and deviantart drawings and then called it a day.
Argyllos is actuall right next to where you put Stagira, on the eastern side. I actually live in the lower Strymon Valley. Argyllos is being slowly brought to surface. Visaltes, the hellenized tribe that used to live here were loyal tributaries to the throne of Macedon.
@@gabrielebarone2809 thanks buddy. Unfortunately, there is not much information about them prior to hellenization (approximatelly early 5th cent. B.C.)
According to Herodotus' testimony , the Macedonians were a Dorian tribe that moved from Estiotida of Thessaly (near Trikala) towards Orestida , on the outskirts of Pindus , and Elimea , where they settled . Before they reached the area , it was inhabited probably by thracian and Phrygian tribes that migrated to Asia minor during the 2nd millenia BC , meaning that the area was almost deserted . Their first king was Perdikas I , the founder of the Argead dynasty , who originated ( as the name suggests ) from Argos . He expanded his kingdom first to Eordea , afterwards to Botie , Pieria and finally to Almopia .
@@christermi I don't know how this is relevant to my comment though. The areas you refferred to are all on the west of the Strymon Valley. The vassalation of Visalitia probably took place during the rain of Archelaus King of Macedon.
You have such good content but can you pls do a video about the interactions between the illyrians and greeks and how the macedonia and epirus derived from the illyrians. Thank you for these good videos
@@God-Emperor-of-Mankind85 The greeks called the epirotes and the macedonians barbarians at the beginning so they were not greek for sure and the albanian in the balkans are descendents from the illyrians because our culture and language is from balkan origin and we never migrated. The historian Weadham peacock even said that out sworddance represents the same as the sworddance of the epirotes. I come with facts but you just come with emotion and hate. The truth cant be dismissed. All the slavs in the balkan were migrated from russia to the balkans the only states that are the original balkan states are albania, greece, croatia. Have a blessed day
@@God-Emperor-of-Mankind85 Well our DNA show us that albanians are illyrians but ofcourse through the centurys there will be a mix going on but 87% of our DNA is pure. Its the same with greeks, greeks are also a mix of turks and other nationalitys . Have a blessed day
@@zekajluan64529% of Albania today is only Illyrians DNA Haplo group Ev13... It's around 800k Albanian today's are considered Illyrians... While J2 is 2nd of the DNA of Albanians... Wich is Anatolians DNA
Could you make a direct sequel to this one? We heard a lot about the Thracians in this video, with a teeny smattering of Scythians and even mythical Amazons. But what about the Illyrians bumping up against Greek colonies in Italy? What about the Libyans and Sabines and Phoenicians and Iberians and Celts and/or Gauls? And what were the civilizations that Greeks did NOT consider to be barbarians, if any?
@Black Patriot they were fully Greeks and they knew it, the reason they were called "barbarians" by Athens was that Macedonia unlike the other Greek City-state's was a kingdom with a king, that was thought as outdated and barbaric by Athens (Athens created democracy), another reason was the rising of the Macedonian kingdom that wanted to unite Greece, Athens being the then dominant city-state didn't like that at all and did many thing's angaist Macedonia, also Athens mocked and called "barbarians" the Spartans, but uneducated people like you are unaware of that or just ignore it because it isn't going well with their dream of unHellenized Macedonia. Have a nice night and open a book, maybe a proper site, but search about History before opening your mouth
Hippolyta: Damn, you're something. Here's my...girdle. Heracles: Thanks. Finally nice to meet a friendly--FUS! Oops, my bad. Amazons: NEVER SHOULD'VE COME HERE!
@@gb.510 sure my friend, they have even oldest dna line in Europe g2a and they are related to preindoeuropean population of Europe such as peladgians, etruscans, iberians, mynoians. Their tribes owned Asia minor before invasion.
@@ChevyChase301 and plenty after. The 11thce up to the Mongolian invasions gave them a few moments of fame in the region as they expanded and even campaigned to the heart of Iran.
In my language barbarian mean grass-grass and I think that's because civilise people thought that barbarians(people that were not them) lived on grass.
Greek 1: Do you understand them?
Greek 2: Nope, its sounds like they are saying "Bar bar bar" all the time
Greek 1: We shall call them "Barbarians"
Thracian 1: Do you understand what they are saying?
Thracian 2: Dunno, it's all greek to me!
Haha nice
hahaha
God bless you I laughed my ass off...
@@dinos9607 please provide links if it's no trouble. Thanks!
Thracian is Greeks
During his campaigns in Thrace, Lysimachus became a captive of Dromichaetes, the king of the Thracians. In spite of the fact that Lysimachus was his grave enemy, Dromichaetes treated him hospitably and invited him to the banquet (while Lysimachus was still his prisoner). And on this banquet Dromichaetes asked Lysimachus whether he prefers the company of Macedonians or Thracians, on which Lysimachus replied "Macedonians".
Dromichaetes then asked: "Why then, have you desired to abandon the splendid company of Macedonians and wander so far into the lands of the men whose company you do not enjoy".
The story is told by Diodorus Siculus [21.12]
I wish I had a name like those mentioned ...... something like Davadis Mcallalist exceptionalist caesar..... that will do
@@davidmcallister329 maybe Davidoros Callistos 🤔🤣
Because you fkin raid my lands dude
@@davidmcallister329 I can totally brag about my name 😀
Thrax, if we take into consideration spoken languages close by Thracia would be related to Ancient Greek θώραξ (thṓrax, “a breastplate”). Thracians were a martial people and seems plausible to consider their name had to do with body-armor wore in battle. The linothorax (Ancient Greek: λινοθώραξ) is a type of upper body armor used throughout the ancient Mediterranean world. The linothorax appears to have been used in place of the bronze cuirass as the popular choice of armor for Greek hoplites, starting perhaps around the late 7th century and early 6th century B.C. The earliest attested account of a linothorax used for battle is recorded in Book 2 of Homer's Iliad (2.529 and 2.830). It is worn by Ajax the Lesser and is described in brief. It was used by armies of Alexander the Great, and its mentioned by other sources such as Herodotus (2.182, 3.47, 7.63), Livy (4.19.2-20.7), Strabo (Geography, 3.3.6, 13.1.10), and many other minor sources.
The armor got its name from Illyrian (Alb.) “thurje” which means knitting or weaving (or texture).
Non-Greeks: talk
Greeks: All i hear is "bar, bar, bar"
Yes they (helens) also called Alexander the great barbarian and nowadays "greeks" thinks to claim him as a "helen" at all the costs
@@blockie9706 John boy real, for real
@Δημήτρης Ο Δημήτρης they act like karen but they are hellenic, so cool name helen
@@blockie9706 they only do that to justify there claims on the Macedonian region they occupy
@@blockie9706 they really don’t like him when they put a statue up in Athens the people weren’t too happy about it
We need a documentary about Greek colonies in Northern Black Sea region cause there was a really unique mix of Greek and scythian cultures
Also there are still Greeks in southern Ukraine and parts of Russia - the few remaining Pontic Greeks after the Turks genocided / sent away most of them.
@@Syllaeus exactly genetic never lies that's why all Balcanians ,on you tube and almost half o Turks have all Greek DNA when they present their tests ,as about the Slavic invasion the Byzantines repell it suxesfull y ,Slave dident occypay not even one Big Greek City unlike the rest of the Balcans ,Google Byzantine Greece ,and you ll find out that the Byzantines after drove out the Slaves from the Hellenic Peninculla ,brink Greeks from South Italy ,the Ishlands and the West COast of M Asia in a policy of Rehellinization of the Peninsula
What about the one in France
@@Syllaeus cope and seethe, studies conducted on Mycenaean dna samples show a 90% similarity with modern greeks.
@@Syllaeus There are people who genetic are similar, but culture, attitude, aspiration of education, book reading, higine, or respect for others wellbeing, or private property, can be opposite, i am a batak tribe, savage, of 19 century, before Christian missionary of Denmark, Nommensen, educate batak about German civilisation, decorum, and ethnic of learning, which some old grandparent, said soo dicipline, than today indonesia most strict school, but, well, some highly educated are civilised, nice companion oleh lads, but some, are rude talker of other people problems, without the solution they carried, or reflected themselves. Ok, Thank you.
'Ancient Edgy Hipsters type' - didn't think I'd ever hear that sentence in a Kings and Generals video
"I was cool BEFORE the Roman ascension"
Ejjj forgot illyrian the Greeks have stolen stories and their language today is technical, they still do not agree that the first Greek parliament speaks the language of Albanian were Illyrian or Arber, and heroes they have changed the names 🤨🤨 is unfortunate
What most people don't know is that the word barbarians was not used as we use it now. It was practically a way to call someone who spoke different language than Greek. It was making fun of the noise the Greeks couldn't understand. Bar bar... Not joking. The word was made for the lack of knowledge of the language. With time this word became the word we know now, but it wasn't used like that in ancient Greece. Just a note from a Greek.
''Not joking'', my innocuous reply to you was deleted. ''Just a note from'' ... am amused YT user. :)
@Shark Next Door lol, ok whatever. You had a bad day I assume? Hahahah
@Shark Next Door ok, except insults do you have any arguments for what you are saying? :) Or you just felt like insulting someone? You should seek therapy for that :)))
Could you please explain why Greeks are brainwashed? I am happy to learn why you say that. Maybe you are right, but you need to say why you say that.
@@geo322242 Because in his country it's: finishing elementary school = highest intellectual authority on everything.
A series on the Peloponnesian War would be incredible. Also the Syrian Wars between the Seleucids and Ptolemys.
Great video as usual! I never paid too much attention to the shade thrown at the Thracians in the plays, this definitely adds more layers to the readings.
Non-Hellenic people: *exist*
Hellenics: "Is this a barbarian?"
Yes!
Squidward: No Patrick, mayonnaise is not an instrument.
Non-Hellenic people : bar-bar?
Thracian were barbarians? Hellenic people arrived 1200 BC in South Balkans and
stole Thracian culture and Mythology!
All I hear is “bar bar bar bar bar bar”
The word "barbarian" came to be, because of the way Greeks thought the non-greeks sounded like *bar bar*. Generally speaking they were just making fun of their language and their accent.
@ꨓꨕ་ꨚꨝ་ꨆꨈ ꪒꪲꪐꪬ known as Blahblahrians
@@SuperTsek 😂😂😂
Barbara is also a Sanskrit word meaning Hostile forigner.
@ꨓꨕ་ꨚꨝ་ꨆꨈ ꪒꪲꪐꪬ Well yes they're all in the same language family
Mparmpar
Write
Translation in Albanian before before
The city of the amazon named tanagra
Tana gra
In Albanian all women
Amazon's
A. Ma zonje
Is more brave
You guys know I love it when you cover Ancient Greece 👍
“Come up and die!”
KnG: “a display of mutual fondness”
@Tu Chu
Can OP not be both?
Still much better than the Chinese "democracy"
Who else noticed Kassandra from assassin's creed Odyssey
Why would he put Kassandra in this video ?
@@RicardoPerez-rz8pu Why not? The third woman on the right at 5:08 does look a lot like Kassandra in the Amazonian Armor Set.
@@judostar11 can Spartans Girls joined The Amazons ?.
@@RicardoPerez-rz8pu sure, why not? It does look like Kassandra with the Amazonian Armor Set though.
I saw gal gadot as well
It would be really interesting to see other cultures' interaction with greeks, like egyptians, italics, celts and iberians and scytians, you should make more vids about it!
Great documentary as usually.
I feel so proud to be a Greek.
Greeks and their pride... Ah, some things never change! ;)
What are you proud of? Inventing souvlaki and frappe? What do the ancient Greeks have to do with the citizens of the modern banana republic you live in which is bankrupt and last in most indicators in the European Union?
@@georgem3270 and where are you from your culture probably hasn't done a fraction off what the greeks have for civilization, there are very few people who can claim to have been as impactful to history as the greeks the rest off the world should thank them for all they have contributed regardless of the state off greece today , these people managed to keep there culture alive and well for hundreds off years all the while living under ottoman rule to eventually rise again as a small but still important nation , the same people who fought off the Persians and kept the roman empire alive for a extra thousand years are the same people who inhabit modern day greece
@@jamesmoran7391 well said
@@jamesmoran7391
Yep. The Greek Culture really has endured a lot to the present day
Actually the ancient Greeks when named someone" barbarian" they meant someone who is no Greek and perhaps don't speak Greek language no them without civilization!
Very true
Uhm, to the Ancient Greeks, to not speak Greek, was to not have civilization. It’s one and the same for them.
@@shaunpalaiologos2417 so according to greeks babylonians, assyrians, persians, egyptians phoenicians had no civilization? Yeah i think its time to take those greeks of the pedestals.
@@jasonmuniz-contreras6630 Its very broad, alot of greeks did respect other cultures. Upper class greeks adopted achemaneid dress and style, and some famous greeks, most notably Alexander, held the Persians in extremely high esteem.
Correct. It was more like "foreigner". Their language sounded like "bar-bar" to the Greeks and called them bar-barians.
Wow this is actually really good. Great way to end the year and I'm excited to see what you'll make next year
That's a very common mistake but absolutely NONE of the classical greeks actually believed that the amazons removed one breast. It is not once mentioned in Herodotus and there is absolutely no representation in art of classical greece or before that represent amazons warriors with only one breast. It's a very tardive tradition and a lot of historians in antiquity already knew that it was only an error of traduction.
Stunning work, one of my favorite time periods. You guys are the best.
Wonderfully told and beautifully
rendered! Thank you K&G!
Last time I was early, Greek was the lingua franca.
Last time I was this early, Latin was the official lingua franca.
Phoenician is the OG lingua franca.
@Old Tercio Nothing much, just talking about lingua francas (bridge/common or link languages). That's all.....
@Old Tercio From an alternate universe where German is the Lingua Franca. Was good mein friend
*Aramaic* : "Am I a joke to you?"
Wondering if you could do a series that focuses on history of the roman republic and imperial legions.
Love the content. Keep up the great work!
I think it would be very intrestning if u make video about Massalia and other greek citie's near Gaul
Agree with you and a video about the Gallic invasion of Greece and the battles that happened
Truly a good idea
Thanks for the present Kings and Generals! Happy 2021! Stay safe!
Moral of the story, dont fck with Heracles
@@arolemaprarath6615 Dio...
I’m so grateful of this channel 🙏 🏹⚔️🛡 and narrator voice is amazing !
🎊 WISH YOU ALL HAVE A WONDERFUL HAPPY NEW YEAR 🥳 2021 - 💖 from Tokyo Japan 🇯🇵
Your videos are top notch Kings and Generals. Keep up the good work. And wish you a Happy New Year :)
K&G > Wonderwoman
XD
Dude was Wonder Woman is just for entertainment purposes,K&G is educational I don't think it's fair to compare
@@bottomless_pit And yet K&G is more entertaining and didn't cost 200 million to make XD
@@wiictvchannel1112 ✌ same
Ye
Happy New Year
Love these videos btw!! Great work. The location of Argilos is just on the south bank of the struma river, a little north of Stagira. You can see the archaeological site from the road, which is neat.
I think a video or series of videos on the Greco-Punic wars (other than the battle of Himera and the brief campaign of Pyrrhus, which you have already covered) would be very exciting.
My relatives visited south Albania. Its full of Greek people, Greek stores, Greek hotels, Greek business, Greek flags and Greek language.
I agree as someone who likes both the carthaginians & ancient greeks regarding style of architecture, seafaring & warfare The public interest on the greek-punic wars is pretty high and defo needs to be covered since these conflicts are so unique & exciting in its own way which led to both civilizations making technological advancements & maintaining a beneficial rivalry.
I like your new style of mapping soooo much more than the previous one. Good content!
All the monsters of Greek mythology are alive and well today and living among us. We even vote for them...
Lernos Hydra is quite Balkanic
Sus
@Πολεμάω Ελεύθερος I don't live in the past. I see the Greek woman in the German bakery.
Very interesting. Good angle explaining perspectives and interactions. And good plug.
Documentary on western Greek colonies like Massilia when?
@@Andre_vyent Yup. Milan was also a Gaulish settlement in its earliest stages.
The greek gaulish interactions are not talked about enough! Very interesting
And of course everybody Gauls and Romans were also Greek. The Ottomans too. But nobody speaks Greek.
@@eedragonr6293 That's a nice stretch. The Gauls and Romans were contemporaries of the Greeks.
@@Udoch let's see who's not contemporary with the Greeks. Oh you mean not in the neighborhood of the Greek world.
The background tune that starts around 13:10 is the Song of Seikilos, the only musical composition we have from the Classical world (late 2nd C.). The sheet music was discovered on a marble grave marker near Ephesus.
Happy New Year!
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Great video as usual happy new year Kings and general
One of your best videos so far, in my humble opinion.
Alexander the Great spoke Greek and was a disciple of Aristotle.
Philip's father was taking part in an Olympic games which means he was Greek
The mother of Olympias was a priestess of the god Apollo from Epirus
The Greatest of the Greeks was not uneducated, nor a barbarian conqueror.
He transferred Greek culture everywhere to the known world, founding many Hellenistic cities by transferring
knowledge and arts and not violence and tyranny.
Keep crying greek, he says facts
One who spoke greek language was not necessary a Greek . If Alexander or his father were Greeks or only hellenised , the Macedonians for sure were not Greeks but rather Thracians . Here we speak of different people , although both indo-europeans .
@@seaman5705 The Macedonians were absolutely, definitely Greek. With the amount of evidence we have for this fact, it's silly to even state anything else. The Thracians had a vastly different language in an entirely different PIE tree, and they had vastly different customs and rites.
@@TzvetozarCherkezov "The origin and identity of this people are much debated and are at the centre of a heated modern dispute between those who argue that this people should be considered ethnically Greek and those who argue that they were not Greek or that their origin and identity cannot be determined (see Researcher’s Note: Macedonia: a contested name). This dispute hinges in part on the question of whether this people spoke a form of Greek before the 5th century BCE; it is known, however, that by the 5th century BCE the Macedonian elite had adopted a form of ancient Greek and had also forged a unified kingdom."
If you have any solid proof from before 5th century , I am ready to listen .
Alexander encouraged sacking the city of Persepolis, and did nothing to stop his soldiers from massacring and raping the civilians there. He then burnt the city to the ground destroying centuries worth of irreplaceable knowledge and culture from the Persian Achaemenid Empire, which is why we know so little of the empire that once held 44% of the world population.
He was a conqueror and a warlord who should not be romanticized. There is a reason he was long afterward known as Alexander the Accursed to the people of Persia.
Love the quality content you guys put out consistently.
Good video. Miltiades, the hero of Marathon married a Thracian princess, and Themistocles, the victor of Salamis probably had a Thracian mother. Many prominent Athenians, in addition to Thucydides, had links to Thrace.
Iphicrates, one of the most famous Athenian generals, also married a Thracian princess and had two sons with her.
Sometimes men just want something wild. I am of Chinese descent and chinese women can't turn me on in bed. While latinas make me feel as if it's my last night on earth.
@@achillesrodriguezxx3958 that's sounds very greek of you, are you sure you don't have any greek roots? ( a common stereotype greeks are having for them selves is that greek people especially men prefer foreigners for bed than their own)
@@Pavlos_Charalambous Haha now that you mention this, i should get a DNA test just for fun. Maybe this explains why i always had such an interest in Greek history.
@@Pavlos_Charalambous i prefer foreign women as well, but i am Macedonian. (Macedonian slav for you)
Happy new year K & G , your videos have kept me going this year, best wishes
Concerning the impact of “peltastai” in Greek warfare, check the battle of Lechaio and the General Ifikratis. As far as I know, this is the first defeat of the Spartan phalanx from the peltastai. In Spactiria it was mostly, a siege.
Spartacus?
Hi, i love your videos. You've helped me learn a lot about history in the past few years
Never tell your enemy he is doing the wrong thing, Never interrupt them when they are making a mistake.
Fascinating! Very good presentation
Athenian hipsters: Well I was into Thracian cloaks before it was cool.
I only shop at the thrift agora, isn’t that so quirky
hahahahhahahahaha roman hipster wearing his pants to his dad: "they are people too, you know", "here we go again with the bleeding heart, they are savages, they attack eachother and then they come and raid roman land", "its not roman land, dad. it belongs to its people.", "they lost it when caesar decided so", "oooh again with that strongman clown, he is a fucking joke", "HE GAVE MONEY TO THE PEOPLE", "IT WASNT HIS MONEY, HE BUTCHERED THOSE POOR PEOPLE IN GAUL AND LOOTED EVERYTHING, NO BETTER THAN THE SAVAGES YOU SO DESPISE", "YOU ANTIROMAN LITTLE SHIT", "WHEN THE PROLETARIAT WILL UNITE YOU WILL ALL SEE, OLD MAN, A UNITED WORKING CLASS ACROSS EUROPE WILL BURN EVERYTHING THAT IS ROTTEN AND ESTABLISH A NEW DIVINE REPUBLIC", "THAT JEW IN GALILEE TAUGHT YOU THAT SHIT?", "HE IS THE SON OF GOD", "HE IS JUST A HIPPIE LIKE YOU, JUPITER WOULD NEVER GO NEAR HIS UGLY MOTHER"
12k views in 47 minutes...... just goes to show how much everyone loves your channel
Just curious how is Thessaly and Epirus non existent here? Thessaly is one of if not the oldest Greek province. It's history is well documented and is where the hero Achilles was supposed to be from.
Cause this channel is trying in the most subtle way to separate Thrace,Macedon,Epirus,Thessaly from Greek history.
They cant do it openly since their majority of audience is historically informed and educated but every now and then they seize the opportunity to depict their new world order directive to de-hellenize anything!!!
Yeah I was going to say lol
@@Ellinon_Vasileus they separate them because they weren't city states but they were kingdoms
Epirus was always greek. Albanians appeared recently, that doesn't make it albanian
@Panos Panos Small people creating big stories so they can have a big history and identity which they don't have.
Good stuff guys , very interesting. Thank you and Happy New Year
Thank you for this contribution. The history of the Thracians is pretty much overlooked. Even being a Slavic speaking country, Bulgaria has a huge Thracian heritage, not only cultural but also genetical. Recent studies have shown that we have more Thracian than Slavic DNA which wouldn't surprise anyone who is familiar with the Bulgarian history... Have a Happy New Year!
Happy new year man. Can you provide the studies on how a mix of slavs and Bulgars (by Bulgars i mean the Volga Bulgars) have genetic similarity with the Thracians which they were already Hellenized by the time when they (Bulgarians) came centuries later in the region of Thrace?
Briefly, the Thracians were linguistically assimilated by the Slavs just as the old Romano-British population was linguistically assimilated by the Anglo-Saxons. They however left a significant genetical heritage - up to 40% of the genes of the modern Bulgarians.
@Ghost Ghost You talk about the Volga Bulgars which yes are of Turkic origin but they migrated in the lands where the slav are living and by assimilation the Bulgarians are born the slavs provided the language and the Bulgars the the state organisation (the slavs didn't have any state this time)
The Thracians were mostly hellenized during the hellenistic ages . Phillip and later Lysimachus founded many cities inside Thrace , which acted as beacons of hellenic culture . Modern day Bulgarians have no real correlation to the ancient thracians ; only way a cultural similarity could have been achieved is through intermixing with the Greek population they ruled over after settling in the lands south of the Danube .
This is the simplified Greek interpretation. Part of the Thracians were romanized, many others preserved their language and identity until the Slavic invasion. It seems that the Thracians and the Slavs intermingled quite well. At the end of the day the Bulgars arrived and the nation was forged. The process was completed more or less until the end of the 9th century...
Happy new year and I love the videos your doing.
Would have liked to hear about the relations between Illyria and Greece but good video nonetheless
@David Marku Did you forget to take your medication again?
@@shadearca Albanian pseudo history on internet comments never fails to make me laugh.
I am curious too but I don't think this would make a large video. We don't know much about Illyrians as their language had no writing. The relation was bad though, Illyrians had several fights against Greek Kingdoms until Alexander the Great sieged their fortress and made a pact with them.
@@dimikats5135 They fought with and against Greek citystates and kingdoms.
@@szarekhthesilent2047 I only remember one case which they fought in a Greek city side. They were not considered Greeks in general. Every time Greeks united against a foreign threat Illyria was out of this. They were known pirates and their dream was to conquer Western Greece (Epirus etc). They almost did it once while the Greek cities were in decline and asked the Romans for help.
Happy early New Years, K&G!
Please do a video on he black Seminoles
@@babyjake7773 What?
Don’t forget to talk about the Greek relations with the Illyrians!
cool vid! Keep up the good work!
I swear kings and generals has a greek fetish.... i like that
welp, it hard not to when you are an ancient history geek.
Ok buddy Byzantine
hai greek
@@bruhhmemes6560 cherry?
@@asphaltrider_699 no
more of these! :)
happy new year K&G
When your hair is long that you've been mistaken as an Amazon 😂
Except in ancient Greece, women usually wore their hair short as well as men. Long hair was for barbarains and Spartans.
I believe the demos used to have their hair short while the pro spartans had it longer.
@@AJKecsk Women had short hair in ancient Greece? I'm not so sure about that... How short?
@@AJKecsk Not what I remember from the representations painted on potteries and frescos from ancient Greece...
@@AJKecsk Women back in Ancient Greece especially during the Archaic Period didnt have short hair(at least most of them). They just usually tied their hair which were very long actually in knots and different kinds of hairstyles that they considered as a form of norm or fashion back then. Of course this happened during all the historical periods of ancient Greece.
I wouldn't mind seeing more video's on how the Greeks interacted with other people's. But what I want to see more than anything is the next video on the Imjin war. I've been waiting a longtime for it to come. My compliments to all those who made this video a reality.
Happy New Year to all of you!
Sejm tu ju
same to ya dude
13:09 LOVE that the Seikilos Epitaph is playing!!
17:47 "ancient edgy hipster type" lmao
something like the Gothic style of today?
Happy New Year K&G!
Non greeks: greetings friend
Greeks: LOL all I'm hearing is "BAR BAR BAR"
Non greeks: wot mate?
Happy New year guys!!
Keep up the good work. :)
I gotta say I really like the video, but I'm not really happy with a few artistic choices. One of them is how the greek companions of Heracles were depicted in the early part of the video; seeing how most greek legends take place in the bronze age, an attempt to draw them in actual mycenaean panoply would have been a very appreciated detail.
Another one is at 11:15 where both sides are just spartans with different designs, as in the spartans on the right are depicted with what they would have worn before the persian wars (full-face corinthian helmets, muscled breastplate, etc), while the athenians on the left are shown with what actual spartans during the Peloponnesian War would wear (crested pilos helmet and linothorax). Moreover, those "athenians" are a less popular google images result when you google "spartans".
Again, these are just details and the video itself is quite good, but these details make it look like the art direction simply slapped together a few stock images and deviantart drawings and then called it a day.
Great content looking foreard to seeing other videos on this topic
Argyllos is actuall right next to where you put Stagira, on the eastern side. I actually live in the lower Strymon Valley. Argyllos is being slowly brought to surface. Visaltes, the hellenized tribe that used to live here were loyal tributaries to the throne of Macedon.
This is cool
@@gabrielebarone2809 thanks buddy. Unfortunately, there is not much information about them prior to hellenization (approximatelly early 5th cent. B.C.)
According to Herodotus' testimony , the Macedonians were a Dorian tribe that moved from Estiotida of Thessaly (near Trikala) towards Orestida , on the outskirts of Pindus , and Elimea , where they settled . Before they reached the area , it was inhabited probably by thracian and Phrygian tribes that migrated to Asia minor during the 2nd millenia BC , meaning that the area was almost deserted . Their first king was Perdikas I , the founder of the Argead dynasty , who originated ( as the name suggests ) from Argos . He expanded his kingdom first to Eordea , afterwards to Botie , Pieria and finally to Almopia .
@@christermi I don't know how this is relevant to my comment though. The areas you refferred to are all on the west of the Strymon Valley. The vassalation of Visalitia probably took place during the rain of Archelaus King of Macedon.
@@ioannisbougios1451 adding some historical context to your comment .
Thank you Kings and Generals!
Please cover the history of Magna Graecia or continue The Punic-Greek Wars.
Any kings and generals video
Napoleon I bonaparte: its show time
go See Epic History TV
They have done a bad ass series of Napoleon's top Marshalls. Great channel like K&G.
4:06 (in background) oh Hi Xena, what brings you here for this cameo?
Along with ACO's Kassandra elsewhere.
you did a brilliant video again in a great story - fact telling manner.
Do the Dacians next, please. They interacted with the Greeks and Romans as well.
Great video. You will make also one video about the Phoenicians?
Beatiful and Amazing - more on Ancient Greek culture please!
I have enjoyd every video that i have watched so far
You have such good content but can you pls do a video about the interactions between the illyrians and greeks and how the macedonia and epirus derived from the illyrians.
Thank you for these good videos
@@God-Emperor-of-Mankind85 The greeks called the epirotes and the macedonians barbarians at the beginning so they were not greek for sure and the albanian in the balkans are descendents from the illyrians because our culture and language is from balkan origin and we never migrated. The historian Weadham peacock even said that out sworddance represents the same as the sworddance of the epirotes. I come with facts but you just come with emotion and hate. The truth cant be dismissed. All the slavs in the balkan were migrated from russia to the balkans the only states that are the original balkan states are albania, greece, croatia.
Have a blessed day
@@God-Emperor-of-Mankind85 Well our DNA show us that albanians are illyrians but ofcourse through the centurys there will be a mix going on but 87% of our DNA is pure. Its the same with greeks, greeks are also a mix of turks and other nationalitys . Have a blessed day
@@zekajluan64529% of Albania today is only Illyrians DNA Haplo group Ev13... It's around 800k Albanian today's are considered Illyrians... While J2 is 2nd of the DNA of Albanians... Wich is Anatolians DNA
a good way to start your new year (2021) by watching this video
*Happy New Year Comrades*
Happy New Year King!
Happy new year K&G family...
Could you make a direct sequel to this one? We heard a lot about the Thracians in this video, with a teeny smattering of Scythians and even mythical Amazons. But what about the Illyrians bumping up against Greek colonies in Italy? What about the Libyans and Sabines and Phoenicians and Iberians and Celts and/or Gauls? And what were the civilizations that Greeks did NOT consider to be barbarians, if any?
Bravo !
Most enlightening!
Last time I checked, the whole world has yet to appreciate the values earned from ancient Greek states and kingdoms, in practice.
😏😏
@Black Patriot Macedonians are Greeks, like Athenians, Spartans, Arcadians and the rest of the Greek kingdom's and city-state's
@@nikosx6905 μαθε τους ιστορια στους ασχετους
@@panagiotistsoutsis1112 με τέτοια πλύση εγκεφάλου που έχουν δεν καταλαβαίνουν ούτε από λογική ούτε από ιστορία
Respect from a Turk
@Black Patriot they were fully Greeks and they knew it, the reason they were called "barbarians" by Athens was that Macedonia unlike the other Greek City-state's was a kingdom with a king, that was thought as outdated and barbaric by Athens (Athens created democracy), another reason was the rising of the Macedonian kingdom that wanted to unite Greece, Athens being the then dominant city-state didn't like that at all and did many thing's angaist Macedonia, also Athens mocked and called "barbarians" the Spartans, but uneducated people like you are unaware of that or just ignore it because it isn't going well with their dream of unHellenized Macedonia. Have a nice night and open a book, maybe a proper site, but search about History before opening your mouth
Happy New Year Kings and Generals Team 😀
19:00 " δημόσιοι υπηρέτες" ( pronounced thimosi-e ipiretes) literally means public servents 😉
Informative and interesting
Hippolyta: Damn, you're something. Here's my...girdle.
Heracles: Thanks. Finally nice to meet a friendly--FUS! Oops, my bad.
Amazons: NEVER SHOULD'VE COME HERE!
Happy New year! ;)
Greeks were everywhere...
This channel should be official history learning in schools. Much better than today's teacher's
No, it should not. Although it's nicely made it very wrong and has nothing to do with history. Most of the information is false and misleading.
Hi kings and generals, what about georgian history? Early tribes and wars over 3000 years? I really want video about this country
That would be awsome
Just started drinking Georgian wine. Would definitely love to hear more about the country too
@@gb.510 sure my friend, they have even oldest dna line in Europe g2a and they are related to preindoeuropean population of Europe such as peladgians, etruscans, iberians, mynoians. Their tribes owned Asia minor before invasion.
I second this 🥺😉
@@ChevyChase301 and plenty after. The 11thce up to the Mongolian invasions gave them a few moments of fame in the region as they expanded and even campaigned to the heart of Iran.
13:09 hey!! That Civ VI theme song. It fits really good with any of these fantastic History videos.
There is no doubt the Romans copied the Greeks in many ways.
Great video today keep it up your doing amazing job
In my language barbarian mean grass-grass and I think that's because civilise people thought that barbarians(people that were not them) lived on grass.
a video on egypt's influence on ancient greece would be worthwhile too
Never would I have dreamed of hearing the words "edgy hipster" on this channel
Another great video