@eggsbenedictcucumberpatch that....makes a shocking amount of sense. They survive off H2O (water), and alcohol is anythingbwith hydroxl groups (-OH) and makes things that react well with water. Actually I think this interactions is how you form other hydrocarbons like cholesterol and sugars so their bodies may naturally already do it with water to fill out their nutritional needs. So just straight alcohol would probably taste great to them and digest fast albeit with some unknown side effects. It doesn't cause actual dehydration or electrolyte imbalances, in humans, so maybe Namekians would be relatively okay.
@eggsbenedictcucumberpatch I think they were referencing that one scene in the Futurama episode where Bender made smaller and smaller clones of himself. The clones ran out of alcohol, but started turning water into it, and when Bender was told that this would mean the Earth would run out of water, his reaction was "Oh no! What will I mix with my scotch?"
It's funny you pointing out that Goku lets people power up for no reason. I remember an infamous video way back of someone hating TFS vehemently and one of the reasons was how they made Goku a dumbass (... in a parody) and he cited the scene where he lets Frieza power up to 100% in exchange for pizza, saying "the Goku I know - the REAL Goku - would never let a villain power up to full strength for fucking PIZZA bro". And yeah, he's right. Real Goku did it for free.
😂😂 Thank you for the insight. TFS is huge, so I imagine non-fans might find all the references over the OG to be annoying. But yah, Goku pulls a future Super Vegeta, but far more understandable& fitting. Vegeta had so many options to not fuck up that bad. (Fight literally anybody else who’s buff from the time chamber, they’re stronger than semi cell)
And let's not forget that any reason he gives in canon is really just an excuse to satisfy his inborn lust for battle. At least TFS Goku is more honest about his selfish motivations.
"You know, if it makes you feel better, I'm not immortal either and I'm okay with that" "Grrrrrrrrr" "Are you just mad because I'm gonna outlive you now?" I love that even when Freeza's hopes of becoming immortal have been dashed entirely, Goku still insists on poke fun at Freeza!
Thank you, I could never understand Goku’s line. ‘Are you mad that you can die, that I’m gonna kill you?’ It’s actually threatening af, but the delivery makes it playful.
I love the idea of goku actually being really smart, but acting stupid on purpose because he knows his opponent will either let down their guard, or he will enrage them to the point of making a fatal mistake.
@@althelor I adore this headcanon for TFS Goku. Especially since I remember seeing a Bit where he was doing his own Taxes. Not sure if it's canon or not though (TFS canon)
The perfect capstone of guru's death scene is the fact that it is so horribly brutal that even Vegeta is visibly disturbed by it. That two-second shot with his mouth dropping open is just perfection. *Chef's Kiss!*
"I'm so fucking high right now" "The joke in that scene is that he looks really fucking high" Top commentaryness right there. Taka truly is a blessing man.
13:16 and since Frieza killed his own men too, it would naturally mean some of his own soldiers would return to life as well. Meaning there was a few soldiers panicking on his ship as everything was blowing up.
@@souperhappydrinkingcoffee5130 They actually don't, just specifically only being able to wish back people up to a year due to the amount of people being revived. I think a DB youtuber doing a retrospective on the manga was the one who debunked that infamous bit. Probably also why they suggest wishing back Grandpa Gohan.
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The canon implies every planet has its own afterlife, and anyone who dies on that planet goes to its afterlife. With that in mind, Namek must have a terrifying afterlife.
@@battlesheep2552 The way the anime implied it. It was more of each planet has there own check in station to be processed. going to hell, heaven, the other realms to be trained by the Kai if they are worthy. So they needed a wish to transfer krillin soul to earths check in station. So he could be brought back on earth. Otherwise he would. Have been brought back to the void of space where old namek was.
I always assumed that the god characters at King Kai's level and above are truly omniscient, but what they're actively cognizant of is depending on their attention. They're also all very easily distracted.
Probably most defiantly not omniscient. They don't show that at all. Maybe all seeing as in can see and hear anything they want within their quadrant. But they most certainly are not omniscient. Even for not being cognizant. They sure don't know anything about the present, past or future. Kinda of a requirement to be cognizant of it at all times to be called omniscient. Otherwise you're just saying they know alot.
@@Nelsito99 Right, highlighting that Goku actually has an _absurdly excellent_ sense of 5 minutes. Like, good luck actually pulling that off without a stopwatch even if you were actively tracking it the whole time.
@@ACuriousTanuki Even when I was in band in school and was actively practicing keeping time keeping exact time for 5 minutes while doing something was quite hard. If that thing was "fighting a galactic tyrant", I would assume it would become impossible for me.
Well, the only downside about this is any Freeza's soldier could have killed her in one shot, basically (even with one of her mecas, as their power levels are all at 2000, to the very least, which means stronger than Radditz or Saibaimen), so that just would have made one more people to revive in the end...pretty much.
I just recited Frieza’s salty monologue before shooting up the planet. It’s his articulation paired with Frieza’s diction. Martin’s delightful as a VA!
The fact that Nappa was made into a producer at the end of this arc made the reveal of the Boo saga not being done extra hard. At the time I was really looking forward to the spin on the bobblehead reenactment of the cell encounter being produced by Nappa.
Especially because later on TFS would be brought in to VOICE that scene, the joke about Nappa playing hercule (being that Taka does the hercule voice) would’ve been hilarious
My head canon is that Krillin’s paperwork got lost, so he never properly made it to the afterlife in those four months. Either Popo’s wish created so much paperwork (on account of trillions of people or more being revived into dead or dying planets and immediately dying) that they lost track of a few billion creatures who died within that hour, or because there was a clerical error, and someone thought he was supposed to be revived as part of the wish.
Krillin couldn't be wished back with the Earth Dragon Balls because he had already died once before and the same wish couldn't be made twice at that time. The limitation wasn't lifted until Dende became guardian. They wished back all the people Frieza and his men killed with Earth's dragon, not Porunga, so that wish couldn't include Krillin.
So the other thing about the "re-contextualizing of how Freeza gets chopped in half" is that it's actually a lot closer to the manga version of what happens. Goku does the elbow drop on Freeza's head, he falls to the ground, gets pissed, looks up at Goku like he's about to jump back up at him, Goku tells him to stay down, Freeza says "FUCK THIS," jumps from the hole, and gets sliced in half as soon as he exits.
@@JayrodM12 Hmm I mean… it’s a little bit drawn out and definitely more silly. Ultimately I guess they didn’t do the slice scene as bad as I remember but it’s not instant. Dude has more time to react to the move. He kinda gently floats upward.
I think it would have been hilarious for the 'bring back his dad' wish, Piccolo materialized in front of them confused. Then lectures them about not being specific with wishes.
@@glebglub That wouldn't really work. Way too reliant on super specific knowledge, and is never even hinted at in DBZA itself. The Piccolo one hyperbeast presented would work way better.
30:36 None of these guys gave Faulerro any props for the delivery on that. Always loved it despite it being undercut by the usual joke about death being meaningless.
@@TheHollowTigerummm...are...are you serious? Even though Chad gets Warfed to high hell he's at least good for that, Yamcha doesn't even get to do THAT. They're all relevant in some form or another unlike a lot of characters in OG DragonBall and those introduced in Z besides frieza because that horse hasn't been beat enough yet. While im taking the tine to write this lets point out some of dragon balls other problems. Who remembers Launch!? I sure as fuck don't! And at least all the women in bleach stay badass even after getting married and settling down unlike half the women in dragon ball that toriyama just has around to be badass for like an arc only to have a baby stuck in em. I ain't saying bleach is perfect hell the fullbringer arc and the ending of tybw are evident of that but that's not really kubo's fault and that's stuff that's getting fixed in the new anime. I've watched and love both bleach and dragon ball and they're both good Shonen anime. HOWEVER, I will not tolerate having the cast of bleach compared to YAMCHA of all people.
There's a certain irony in Goku saying that Krillin never hits anyone with the kienzan to one of the few people he did hit with it. Especially considering Krillin was basically the first person to draw blood from Freeza on Namek and likely the universe. Although of course, Goku doesn't know that, because he wasn't present.
Seeing people in Taka's chat STILL being confused about Krillin not being brought back to life by Shenron through LORD Popo's wish is giving some serious "only watched DBZA, screw the official release" energy. Also, it's still my headcanon that everything about Abridged Guru was written JUST to explain why Vegeta would ever show concern on his face over Guru's death. Same thing with Freeza's inverted controls Death Slicers. The scene afterwards he's pointing his arms towards the opposite direction from where the disc is heading to follow Goku.
I always liked that last delivery of "God dammit, Nappa" because the tone in Vegeta's voice made it sound like he was both pissed off that Nappa was back, and also a little proud that he became such a Hollywood success.
The reason Goku, and all of the other Saiyans by extension, aren’t all that pragmatic is because they aren’t heroes, they’re warriors at heart. No matter how the dub likes to portray Goku as a hero. What makes sense to him is different from what makes sense for normal people. It’s why all of the Saiyans take their time with their opponents rather than vaporizing them on the spot like we all know they can do.
I mean, the Dragon Balls have a 1 year limit on how long a person can be dead. Freeza's a space land speculator (no, really, that was Toriyama's inspiration for Freeza being the literal worst), so he only destroys planets very rarely. So every planet Freeza genocided and conquered has been repopulated (besides Freeza Planet 419, that one was already repopulated).
@@PGW85Productionsyea when Dende becomes Guardian he says he made a few changes to the dragon balls. He adds I think 1 or 2 extra wishes to it. Mori also upgrades the dragon balls on Namek
@@fidelgarcia2224 - yeah, 3 wishes instead of 1, but if you resurrect multiple people at once, it's capped at 2, IIRC. I just didn't know about the 1 year limit actually being a thing prior to Dende.
Seriously, all of you guys did such an amazing job with DBZA. I can tell you all put very hard work into it. I'm so happy to see this grow so much. Thank you guys for giving us DBZA
1:50 iirc in the original show, guru actually talks about the super saiyan as if theres multiple. everybody else is kind of treated like an unreliable narrator; king kai is basically reacting to information he's only learning about right now and vegeta is vegeta. edit: the quote from kami about king kai's 'omnipotence' is actually spot on LMAO
Of course Vegeta thinks there can only be one super saiyan, because he believes HE is the super saiyan and there being more than one makes him less cool.
Overly Sarcastic Productions actually goes over the super saiyan thing and brings up a few more points about how super saiyan wasnt meant to be singular. Iirc Nappa asks Vegeta on the way to earth if Gohan could be "a super saiyan" implying it's not exclusive.
Are there any other instances of TFS Goku dropping the goofball act and getting all serious and angry like he does here? Even if it was only for like 30 seconds, I always enjoyed seeing him finally break here
Not angry, but during the fight between Gohan and Cell when he realizes he fucked up, he does seriously apologize to Gohan when he tries to fix his mistake
Saw a comment on the scroll that said "I grew up with floppy disks" I feel that one bro although technically when I had them CD's were at the height of they're popularity and floppy disks were a technology of a bygone era, never forget the origin of the save button
1:50 Tbf to Toriyama he always planned for super Saiyan to be a technique as he makes clear the legends used to foreshadow the transformation are filled with misinformation. Because if the information about super Saiyan was just reliable and fairly exhaustive you would wonder why did it take so long for people to reachieve it. Edit: the idea there isn't actually a hard one limit even according the mythology is mentioned by Nappa early on when they mention they likely could produce a bunch of super sayians by breeding human sayians hybrids.
Yeah I never get how people always think that thousand year old legends in fiction always have to be 100% accurate, even though they rarely ever are IRL. Though I always like the retcon that the legends were actually talking about Saiyans like Broly.
I also really appreciate that for DBS's flaws - they actually have a payoff for Goku lending Freeza his energy on Namek. That was really cool. They actually make a few neat references to Z and DB. Like Goku's mental training with Grandpa Gohan while waiting for Freeza to get there.
If "I give it like...2 minutes tops" was instead "5 minutes tops" might have helped Freeza's chronological confusion hit that much harder. He could have consistently said "5 minutes" in any situation and anyone who questioned him would only be able to do it once before they realized why no one ever corrects him.
Taka, the death of guru is one of the few times in my life i have gone from sitting in my computer chair to being on the floor gasping for breath from laughing too much, add that to the growing list of your accomplishments
_"I would have had a Kienzan that Krillin used LONG AGO somehow make it's way back"_ is one of the best comments in chat. I think that would have been a fantastic idea - and one or several points gets refunded from Krillin's "owned" counter. Basically, Krillin inadvertently defeats Freeza, and no one knows about it. Maybe Goku goes ".... Why was that one Yellow? Oh, well."
That's genius! And that would mean Krillin technically got a (potentially) killing blow on all first 3 major DBZ villains too. He could have finished off Vegeta, but Goku stopped him in season one. And in season 3, he killed their current timeline's Cell.
@@LonesomeDevil This _is_ why I used the word “Defeated”. But yeah, I’d have liked that for Krillin, and yeah, he’d at least have an assist on all 3. Also, I’d also like that the Kienzan actually succeeded for once! And it would be Krillin inadvertently getting Freeza back for killing him!
Taka: All the play aside....if you hurt his friends, he's fucking pissed!" Me: Makes me think of Luffy. Taka:..the thing they brought into Luffy's character. Too good XD
Goku's kit kat bar line is one of my favourites. It's so perfectly balanced between funny and menacing and fits consistently with how you wrote his character to be food obsessed and a bit childish.
I saw a question get asked on why Krillin didn’t get revived by Mr. Popo’s wish and the reason is simple; At the time Earths dragon balls couldn’t revive someone more than once, as that was still one of the restrictions. It’s why Tien was so pissed during the fight with Nappa, because up till that point Chaiotzu had already been wished back once.
"I am the alpha, *and* the Amiga!" is still one of my favorite lines in this entire show. It always makes me laugh. Another would be Bulma's angry blabbering noises. Oh, and "FILTHY WISH DRAGON!". So many good ones here at the end of the season.
Goku unlocked THE legendary hair-do, so he gets to refuse the wishing dragon. 😂 I love how the anime treats it like “What?? He doesn’t WANT TO come back??” “Sorry, it’s out of my power. Your friend has become HIMMM”
I think it was established the dragon cannot do anything to anyone without their consent if they are strong enough as a reason why they can't use it to eff over the BBEG
I remember as a kid I stumbled upon a section of part 3 and was shocked my Bulma and Yamcha's fight. I showed my mom the clip and said I dont remember Yamcha ever calling Bulma a dirty bitch...I was such a good boy
“I’m gonna let the evil space emperor power up to 100% when I know there’s a time crunch” is a perfectly acceptable time to say “retarded” and anyone BUT Goku would take that as a sign to stop fucking around and kill Frieza now.
One of my favorite parts about TFS' justification of Frieza powering up is that Goku is actually able to come up with an excuse on the spot. And that Frieza is actually pretty gullible. When Frieza says that he won't fall for the thousand-year-old trick but almost falls for it anyway, earlier he also easily falls for Goku's unintentionally true distraction.
In our gaming group, after this episode, whenever players deliberately chose the hard path, we referred to it as "going for stuffed crust". As DM one game, I brought stuffed crust to the next game in honor of one particularly risky gamble which killed them all. It was glorious.
"I am the terror that flaps in the night" ... ahhhh okay that's Darkwing Duck. I thought he said "I am the terror that quacks in the night" 10:40 - Cheese pulling in Goku's angry eyes is the strangest damn thing.
Krillin could not be wished back by Shenron because he had already been brought back to life in original Dragonball, and at this point in the series, Shenron cannot bring anyone back to life more than once.
I've seen video edits of the entire event in 5 minutes. It speeds up insanely quick, only to slow down to normal when people are talking. It works rather well.
I've thought of it as a way of getting in Goku's head. Freeza saying the planet is on the brink of destruction could throw him off and provide a chance for victory.
Frieza has never been able to count. You see how he throws his minions around? He even said “we have more of those in the ship” at one point. Maybe because he has so few fingers…
Yeah, to be fair, its wierd to think that aliens would use the same system of measurement for time as humans do. For all we know 1 minute in galactic standard time might be equal to 1 hour on earth.
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To be fair, Dr. Briefs wouldn't have to worry about the Namekians eating his food. The water bill, however, would *skyrocket.*
Oh his poor scotch
And they are colored. Piccolo would probably tell him to kiss the greenest part of his ass though.
@eggsbenedictcucumberpatch that....makes a shocking amount of sense. They survive off H2O (water), and alcohol is anythingbwith hydroxl groups (-OH) and makes things that react well with water. Actually I think this interactions is how you form other hydrocarbons like cholesterol and sugars so their bodies may naturally already do it with water to fill out their nutritional needs. So just straight alcohol would probably taste great to them and digest fast albeit with some unknown side effects. It doesn't cause actual dehydration or electrolyte imbalances, in humans, so maybe Namekians would be relatively okay.
@@bluecanine3374 good explanation and theory also---- NNNNNEEERRRRDDDD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@eggsbenedictcucumberpatch
I think they were referencing that one scene in the Futurama episode where Bender made smaller and smaller clones of himself. The clones ran out of alcohol, but started turning water into it, and when Bender was told that this would mean the Earth would run out of water, his reaction was "Oh no! What will I mix with my scotch?"
"My organs! Stay in your home! Daddy needs you!" Is such an underrated line.
It's funny you pointing out that Goku lets people power up for no reason. I remember an infamous video way back of someone hating TFS vehemently and one of the reasons was how they made Goku a dumbass (... in a parody) and he cited the scene where he lets Frieza power up to 100% in exchange for pizza, saying "the Goku I know - the REAL Goku - would never let a villain power up to full strength for fucking PIZZA bro". And yeah, he's right.
Real Goku did it for free.
And gave Cell a senzu bean (and in effect a zenkai boost) when swapping out with Gohan. Because it wouldn't be a fair fight otherwise.
😂😂 Thank you for the insight.
TFS is huge, so I imagine non-fans might find all the references over the OG to be annoying.
But yah, Goku pulls a future Super Vegeta, but far more understandable& fitting.
Vegeta had so many options to not fuck up that bad. (Fight literally anybody else who’s buff from the time chamber, they’re stronger than semi cell)
And let's not forget that any reason he gives in canon is really just an excuse to satisfy his inborn lust for battle. At least TFS Goku is more honest about his selfish motivations.
Did... did he not remember the original scene TFS was parodying?
true!
as justified as i think the decision was, its still true
"You know, if it makes you feel better, I'm not immortal either and I'm okay with that"
"Grrrrrrrrr"
"Are you just mad because I'm gonna outlive you now?"
I love that even when Freeza's hopes of becoming immortal have been dashed entirely, Goku still insists on poke fun at Freeza!
And then all the cutting puns when Freeza gets sliced in half
Man's sympathy well has long since run dry
Thank you, I could never understand Goku’s line.
‘Are you mad that you can die, that I’m gonna kill you?’
It’s actually threatening af, but the delivery makes it playful.
@@SamsarasArt I feel like at least one of those jokes could've been stopped at the cutting room floor.
@@alansmithee419 I bet plenty of the jokes they had got slashed.
Goku's savage puns to bisected Freeza just prove to me that Goku was keeping up with the wordplay all along, he's just a god-tier troll.
I love the idea of goku actually being really smart, but acting stupid on purpose because he knows his opponent will either let down their guard, or he will enrage them to the point of making a fatal mistake.
Considering goku's grudge statement towards Piccolo, I am inclined to believe you.
@@Irishcrossing really puts his neglect of Gohan in a harsher light too…
@@KicktheSky34Right? "I did it because I knew it would give him a more potent rage" or something.
@@althelor I adore this headcanon for TFS Goku. Especially since I remember seeing a Bit where he was doing his own Taxes. Not sure if it's canon or not though (TFS canon)
The perfect capstone of guru's death scene is the fact that it is so horribly brutal that even Vegeta is visibly disturbed by it.
That two-second shot with his mouth dropping open is just perfection.
*Chef's Kiss!*
"HOW COULD I MISS!?"
"I Dunna, how did ya?"
I LOVE that answer from Goku, I use it *often*
"I'm so fucking high right now"
"The joke in that scene is that he looks really fucking high"
Top commentaryness right there. Taka truly is a blessing man.
For those who've never watched Dragon ball, Tein broke Yamcha's leg, during the 22nd World Martial Arts Tournament.
13:16 and since Frieza killed his own men too, it would naturally mean some of his own soldiers would return to life as well. Meaning there was a few soldiers panicking on his ship as everything was blowing up.
What about Bardoc's crew who dodoria killed on a random planet?
Think the dragon balls still had the rule of reviving in a certain time frame
@@jiyuuenoWell the dragon balls still need a body so anyone who decomposed would prolly still be dead
@@souperhappydrinkingcoffee5130 They actually don't, just specifically only being able to wish back people up to a year due to the amount of people being revived. I think a DB youtuber doing a retrospective on the manga was the one who debunked that infamous bit. Probably also why they suggest wishing back Grandpa Gohan.
@@jiyuueno "no-one ever goes to Frieza Planet 419... not since its species miraculously repopulated"
also Dodoria wasn't one of Frieza's MEN
I always deeply appreciated how "I'm going to break you....like a kit kat bar" is one of Goku's most intense lines in the entire show.
Makes sense that Goku feels so intensely about kit kat bars.
i love how Taka trying to do King Kai just sounds like Gilbert Gottfried
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These are an absolute lifesaver. Wednesday afternoons are the slowest at work and I have NOTHING to do so when this comes on I can burn a little bit of time
Wednesdays and Fridays are so dull.
@@christianschoff2490 oh yeah Fridays too. Those I have to like bring a sketchbook or something it's so quiet in the office.
Same here. And I have been having to work Saturday's lately so the one with all three is helping a ton too
these videos coming out twice a week is like the only thing keeping me going currently
I love the implication that Krillan has been screaming like that for months in the Other World until he got revived
The canon implies every planet has its own afterlife, and anyone who dies on that planet goes to its afterlife. With that in mind, Namek must have a terrifying afterlife.
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The way the anime implied it. It was more of each planet has there own check in station to be processed. going to hell, heaven, the other realms to be trained by the Kai if they are worthy.
So they needed a wish to transfer krillin soul to earths check in station. So he could be brought back on earth. Otherwise he would. Have been brought back to the void of space where old namek was.
@@brawl8 I don't think it's just that. In super, Freeza mentions he didn't just go to hell, but to "Earth's hell"
@@battlesheep2552
Definitely. It may have just been further expanded. By Frieza own experience either way more lore is always welcome.
All those poor spirits who were in line with him XD
I don't know why, but "I DON'T HAVE TO USE THE BATHROOM" gets me every time.
I always assumed that the god characters at King Kai's level and above are truly omniscient, but what they're actively cognizant of is depending on their attention. They're also all very easily distracted.
So maybe he would have known that Goku lived if he wasn't also peaking into five women's changing rooms simultaneously?
@@battlesheep2552 I was going to say "watching old reruns of Friends", but sure!
Probably most defiantly not omniscient. They don't show that at all. Maybe all seeing as in can see and hear anything they want within their quadrant. But they most certainly are not omniscient. Even for not being cognizant. They sure don't know anything about the present, past or future. Kinda of a requirement to be cognizant of it at all times to be called omniscient. Otherwise you're just saying they know alot.
24:01 remember that goku can keep track of 5 min as that was how long he charged the spirit bomb for while piccolo held off frieza
... That's a very good point.
Nah, Spirit Bomb makes a ding when it's done
@@DampWetstew the ding cut off goku as he was saying "it's only been 4 min and 58-"
@@Nelsito99 Right, highlighting that Goku actually has an _absurdly excellent_ sense of 5 minutes. Like, good luck actually pulling that off without a stopwatch even if you were actively tracking it the whole time.
@@ACuriousTanuki Even when I was in band in school and was actively practicing keeping time keeping exact time for 5 minutes while doing something was quite hard. If that thing was "fighting a galactic tyrant", I would assume it would become impossible for me.
Bulma sneaking around Frieza's ship hacking shit and taking out mooks with a stolen blaster could have been a tense and thrilling subplot,
one thing buma could've done this arc instead of literally nothing: sabotage freiza's tech, maybe even steal from him
That could work.
That would require toriama to think women could do anything
Said with the power of hindsight: Blooma should have been captured, saved herself and than Vegeta.
Well, the only downside about this is any Freeza's soldier could have killed her in one shot, basically (even with one of her mecas, as their power levels are all at 2000, to the very least, which means stronger than Radditz or Saibaimen), so that just would have made one more people to revive in the end...pretty much.
@@GIAP11977and he somehow still writes women better than Kishimoto.
"Ichigo has no friends only transitional Yamcha's"
Damn what a burn
And completely untrue. Uryuu is at least a krillin, if not a vegeta
W-well...Rukia's more of a Bulma...
Does that make orohime chichi?
This is the moment he lost my respect
...Kenpachi is his friend...kinda
"Filthy wish dragon" is one of favorite lines of all time from DBZA.
Martin is my absolute favorite English dub for Freza
I just recited Frieza’s salty monologue before shooting up the planet. It’s his articulation paired with Frieza’s diction. Martin’s delightful as a VA!
I wouldnt mind him as the new frieza tbh
The "in fact f*ck this planet!" And the cutaway to Popo with the "Im so f*cking high right now!" lines are personal favorites of mine.
Masakox just makes the best "excited" Goku noises
Every single "EEEEEEEEEEEEEE" is the most pure thing ever
He makes a better Goku voice than the official english VA.
@@TheLazarusOperation Especially his giggle in Kai 2
@@TheLazarusOperationgoku no! Stop. Getting. Excited!
@@ShadowSkyXI'ma deck you in the shnozz.
I'm sorry, that's a new one
The fact that Nappa was made into a producer at the end of this arc made the reveal of the Boo saga not being done extra hard. At the time I was really looking forward to the spin on the bobblehead reenactment of the cell encounter being produced by Nappa.
Especially because later on TFS would be brought in to VOICE that scene, the joke about Nappa playing hercule (being that Taka does the hercule voice) would’ve been hilarious
My head canon is that Krillin’s paperwork got lost, so he never properly made it to the afterlife in those four months. Either Popo’s wish created so much paperwork (on account of trillions of people or more being revived into dead or dying planets and immediately dying) that they lost track of a few billion creatures who died within that hour, or because there was a clerical error, and someone thought he was supposed to be revived as part of the wish.
Krillin couldn't be wished back with the Earth Dragon Balls because he had already died once before and the same wish couldn't be made twice at that time. The limitation wasn't lifted until Dende became guardian. They wished back all the people Frieza and his men killed with Earth's dragon, not Porunga, so that wish couldn't include Krillin.
@@Xeonorthes referring to the plothole that in death, krillin never went to king kais planet.
@@chriso1373If I remember correctly in canon since he died off he wasn't able to get his body back. Kami was able to get Chaotzu a new body
@@fidelgarcia2224 actually that sounds right now that you mention it. Id have to rewatch it to be sure, but i trust you.
So the other thing about the "re-contextualizing of how Freeza gets chopped in half" is that it's actually a lot closer to the manga version of what happens.
Goku does the elbow drop on Freeza's head, he falls to the ground, gets pissed, looks up at Goku like he's about to jump back up at him, Goku tells him to stay down, Freeza says "FUCK THIS," jumps from the hole, and gets sliced in half as soon as he exits.
But that's what happens in the anime too
@@JayrodM12
Hmm I mean… it’s a little bit drawn out and definitely more silly. Ultimately I guess they didn’t do the slice scene as bad as I remember but it’s not instant. Dude has more time to react to the move. He kinda gently floats upward.
@@m0002856everyone interprets manga panels differently. Kinda obvious. . .
I think it would have been hilarious for the 'bring back his dad' wish, Piccolo materialized in front of them confused. Then lectures them about not being specific with wishes.
or Chichi, since it literally translates to "dad" (as opposed to otousan which is father)
@@glebglub That wouldn't really work. Way too reliant on super specific knowledge, and is never even hinted at in DBZA itself.
The Piccolo one hyperbeast presented would work way better.
Now that would’ve been amazing
Love that you went from quotable villain, to eaten quotable villain, to quotable villain that eats people.
"or whatever" is also why Guru is alive again, as he certainly didn't die over the sadness of Freeza killing his people
I always saw it as him unstopping his heart at the same time everyone was coming back to life
Guru: oh right.. I stopped my heart for a couple minutes there!
*Making Frieza's "5 minutes" actually look legit*
30:36 None of these guys gave Faulerro any props for the delivery on that. Always loved it despite it being undercut by the usual joke about death being meaningless.
"Ichigo has no friends . . .only transitional Yamacha's"
C'mon he has Chad, Renji, . . Uryu. . I see what you mean
At least Renji doesn’t get as left behind as Yamcha, and even Chad gets a better deal than him honestly
@@aimlessjames8939 Regarding power level or story relevance? Because you're wrong on both accounts.
Yeah, that's Bleach in a nutshell.
Nell and Grimmjow are sort of friends.
@@TheHollowTigerummm...are...are you serious? Even though Chad gets Warfed to high hell he's at least good for that, Yamcha doesn't even get to do THAT. They're all relevant in some form or another unlike a lot of characters in OG DragonBall and those introduced in Z besides frieza because that horse hasn't been beat enough yet.
While im taking the tine to write this lets point out some of dragon balls other problems. Who remembers Launch!? I sure as fuck don't! And at least all the women in bleach stay badass even after getting married and settling down unlike half the women in dragon ball that toriyama just has around to be badass for like an arc only to have a baby stuck in em.
I ain't saying bleach is perfect hell the fullbringer arc and the ending of tybw are evident of that but that's not really kubo's fault and that's stuff that's getting fixed in the new anime. I've watched and love both bleach and dragon ball and they're both good Shonen anime. HOWEVER, I will not tolerate having the cast of bleach compared to YAMCHA of all people.
There's a certain irony in Goku saying that Krillin never hits anyone with the kienzan to one of the few people he did hit with it. Especially considering Krillin was basically the first person to draw blood from Freeza on Namek and likely the universe.
Although of course, Goku doesn't know that, because he wasn't present.
Seeing people in Taka's chat STILL being confused about Krillin not being brought back to life by Shenron through LORD Popo's wish is giving some serious "only watched DBZA, screw the official release" energy.
Also, it's still my headcanon that everything about Abridged Guru was written JUST to explain why Vegeta would ever show concern on his face over Guru's death. Same thing with Freeza's inverted controls Death Slicers. The scene afterwards he's pointing his arms towards the opposite direction from where the disc is heading to follow Goku.
But they even mention that rule in dbza earlier.
@@jacoblynn6394yea but even then people were still confused about it
The joy on their faces for wishing back goku 😂 bulma never sees him and he's still her closest, most reliable friend.
well they grew up together
All the adventures and panties makes great friendship
Wow your right she never sees him on namek. I'm surprised I just realized that.
Me and my fiance just quote the KitKat bar line to each other at random adn it makes us giggle every time
say it b4 sexytime once. TOTALLY different meaning
Martin and Masako's chemistry is so good
I like how Nappa has 0 hard feelings about Vegeta killing him
I always liked that last delivery of "God dammit, Nappa" because the tone in Vegeta's voice made it sound like he was both pissed off that Nappa was back, and also a little proud that he became such a Hollywood success.
Dende: "Oh yeah, it's all coming together"
This is why I love these commentaries
What is this a “the emperors new groove“ reference? (Or is it just that commonly used)
@@rasengan124 I'd be disappointed if it wasn't
Call back for krillen joke... Bulma: where's Krillen
Gohan: oh, over there, over there, and over there.
The reason Goku, and all of the other Saiyans by extension, aren’t all that pragmatic is because they aren’t heroes, they’re warriors at heart. No matter how the dub likes to portray Goku as a hero. What makes sense to him is different from what makes sense for normal people. It’s why all of the Saiyans take their time with their opponents rather than vaporizing them on the spot like we all know they can do.
I mean, the Dragon Balls have a 1 year limit on how long a person can be dead.
Freeza's a space land speculator (no, really, that was Toriyama's inspiration for Freeza being the literal worst), so he only destroys planets very rarely.
So every planet Freeza genocided and conquered has been repopulated (besides Freeza Planet 419, that one was already repopulated).
If that’s true, how’d they get Freeza back in Resurrection F?
@@PGW85Productionsresurrection of f had dende as guardian. The one year limit was probably when kami was guardian. Becauae kami is weaker.
@@justaguy1071 Makes sense I guess. I just thought the 1 year limit was a fan theory tbh.
@@PGW85Productionsyea when Dende becomes Guardian he says he made a few changes to the dragon balls. He adds I think 1 or 2 extra wishes to it. Mori also upgrades the dragon balls on Namek
@@fidelgarcia2224 - yeah, 3 wishes instead of 1, but if you resurrect multiple people at once, it's capped at 2, IIRC.
I just didn't know about the 1 year limit actually being a thing prior to Dende.
Nappa coming back was funny but I kinda really wish we had him in HFIL.
But then we wouldn’t get him I two and half sayains
Did Taka seriously let a bunch of people into his bar without checking IDs first? That's a violation
Seriously, all of you guys did such an amazing job with DBZA. I can tell you all put very hard work into it. I'm so happy to see this grow so much. Thank you guys for giving us DBZA
35:10 Wow taka, I didn't know you played porunga. You nailed the godzilla roar perfectly, great job man.
Ever since it was pointed out to me, I love the detail of seeing the pizza in Goku's eyes,
"I think I peed a little." May be one of my favorite moments in the entire series
3 deaths getting a free sundae is my favorite bit of dbza canon
Episode 30 is one of the best works of TFS
Taka is hilarious, and I will quote, everything he says.
Super Kami Guru's death was so savage, even Vegeta was like "Damn, that crossed a line"
King Kai mocking Chaiotzu only to die from Cell's self-destruction is karma at it's finest
"The joke with that scene is he looks really fucking high."
Thanks, I wouldn't have caught that on my own.
1:50 iirc in the original show, guru actually talks about the super saiyan as if theres multiple. everybody else is kind of treated like an unreliable narrator; king kai is basically reacting to information he's only learning about right now and vegeta is vegeta.
edit: the quote from kami about king kai's 'omnipotence' is actually spot on LMAO
Of course Vegeta thinks there can only be one super saiyan, because he believes HE is the super saiyan and there being more than one makes him less cool.
Overly Sarcastic Productions actually goes over the super saiyan thing and brings up a few more points about how super saiyan wasnt meant to be singular.
Iirc Nappa asks Vegeta on the way to earth if Gohan could be "a super saiyan" implying it's not exclusive.
Are there any other instances of TFS Goku dropping the goofball act and getting all serious and angry like he does here? Even if it was only for like 30 seconds, I always enjoyed seeing him finally break here
Not angry, but during the fight between Gohan and Cell when he realizes he fucked up, he does seriously apologize to Gohan when he tries to fix his mistake
Well, there’s “Oh, by the way, Cell…you’re gonna die.”
I swear you guys did yamcha so dirty at the end of this episode lolol. but man this episode will always be one of my favorites!!
Goku's biggest part of King Kai's training finally paid off. He made like four puns in a row.
Saw a comment on the scroll that said "I grew up with floppy disks" I feel that one bro although technically when I had them CD's were at the height of they're popularity and floppy disks were a technology of a bygone era, never forget the origin of the save button
1:50 Tbf to Toriyama he always planned for super Saiyan to be a technique as he makes clear the legends used to foreshadow the transformation are filled with misinformation. Because if the information about super Saiyan was just reliable and fairly exhaustive you would wonder why did it take so long for people to reachieve it.
Edit: the idea there isn't actually a hard one limit even according the mythology is mentioned by Nappa early on when they mention they likely could produce a bunch of super sayians by breeding human sayians hybrids.
Yeah I never get how people always think that thousand year old legends in fiction always have to be 100% accurate, even though they rarely ever are IRL. Though I always like the retcon that the legends were actually talking about Saiyans like Broly.
iirc guru talks about it as if theres multiple
you gotta appreciate that Porunga has enough morals to respect goku's personal autonomy and not just teleport him to earth against his will
I also really appreciate that for DBS's flaws - they actually have a payoff for Goku lending Freeza his energy on Namek. That was really cool. They actually make a few neat references to Z and DB. Like Goku's mental training with Grandpa Gohan while waiting for Freeza to get there.
I've wondered about the five minute thing for years and my head canon is that Frieza's calculating five minutes by his home planets standards
That's what I always kinda figured myself. By this series logic: 5 minutes on Earth could = 5 seconds, or maybe 5 hours on another planet
The truth is that the anime is cursed with (mostly garbage) filler.
In the manga the pace is much faster.
If "I give it like...2 minutes tops" was instead "5 minutes tops" might have helped Freeza's chronological confusion hit that much harder. He could have consistently said "5 minutes" in any situation and anyone who questioned him would only be able to do it once before they realized why no one ever corrects him.
Taka, the death of guru is one of the few times in my life i have gone from sitting in my computer chair to being on the floor gasping for breath from laughing too much, add that to the growing list of your accomplishments
Taka: I need to see some IDs.
Me: *hands over Ron Swanson's license to do anything
18:50 My favorite thing about this joke is that it’s the reverse of what frieza said to vegeta. Y’know, the “but I’ll live to regret it” line
“Didja miss?” My friends and I’s top 5 most quoted lines.
_"I would have had a Kienzan that Krillin used LONG AGO somehow make it's way back"_ is one of the best comments in chat. I think that would have been a fantastic idea - and one or several points gets refunded from Krillin's "owned" counter. Basically, Krillin inadvertently defeats Freeza, and no one knows about it. Maybe Goku goes ".... Why was that one Yellow? Oh, well."
That's genius! And that would mean Krillin technically got a (potentially) killing blow on all first 3 major DBZ villains too. He could have finished off Vegeta, but Goku stopped him in season one. And in season 3, he killed their current timeline's Cell.
@@LonesomeDevil TECHNICALLY he wouldn't have
@@hustler666100 Oh right. I was so amused by how I imagined the whole situation that I suddenly forgot that Freeza actually survives this. My bad.
@@LonesomeDevil This _is_ why I used the word “Defeated”. But yeah, I’d have liked that for Krillin, and yeah, he’d at least have an assist on all 3. Also, I’d also like that the Kienzan actually succeeded for once! And it would be Krillin inadvertently getting Freeza back for killing him!
Taka: All the play aside....if you hurt his friends, he's fucking pissed!"
Me: Makes me think of Luffy.
Taka:..the thing they brought into Luffy's character.
Too good XD
Curt: I need to see some I.D's. I. Need. To. See. Some. I.Ds!
Me: My brother in Christ, you literally run a bad!
Goku's kit kat bar line is one of my favourites. It's so perfectly balanced between funny and menacing and fits consistently with how you wrote his character to be food obsessed and a bit childish.
I saw a question get asked on why Krillin didn’t get revived by Mr. Popo’s wish and the reason is simple; At the time Earths dragon balls couldn’t revive someone more than once, as that was still one of the restrictions. It’s why Tien was so pissed during the fight with Nappa, because up till that point Chaiotzu had already been wished back once.
"I am the alpha, *and* the Amiga!" is still one of my favorite lines in this entire show. It always makes me laugh.
Another would be Bulma's angry blabbering noises. Oh, and "FILTHY WISH DRAGON!". So many good ones here at the end of the season.
"I am become error" and "handsome dashing rogue" (when referring to myself) are lines I use regularly
Thank you Taka. You've made my birthday!
It always made wonder why the dragon had to ask Goku about teleporting him. No1 else has ever been given the optiom to refuse a wish
Right! That was always pretty ridiculous to me too
Goku unlocked THE legendary hair-do, so he gets to refuse the wishing dragon. 😂
I love how the anime treats it like “What?? He doesn’t WANT TO come back??”
“Sorry, it’s out of my power. Your friend has become HIMMM”
I think it was established the dragon cannot do anything to anyone without their consent if they are strong enough as a reason why they can't use it to eff over the BBEG
"Can't you destroy the Saiyans, Shenron?"
"Nope, much more powerful than me, can't affect them."
The Darkwing reference gives me chills every time
Masako deserves more credit. I know you guys give him a lot of credit but he needs more.
if you mean credit for the worst goku voice ever? yeah
@@vaultboy5492 the salt is real
@@vaultboy5492 boo this guyv
@@mrbushido56 u tellin me u like listening to this spongebob ass voice all the damn time
Damn Episode 30 never ceases to make me laugh so hard!
I remember as a kid I stumbled upon a section of part 3 and was shocked my Bulma and Yamcha's fight. I showed my mom the clip and said I dont remember Yamcha ever calling Bulma a dirty bitch...I was such a good boy
“I’m gonna let the evil space emperor power up to 100% when I know there’s a time crunch” is a perfectly acceptable time to say “retarded” and anyone BUT Goku would take that as a sign to stop fucking around and kill Frieza now.
I love that in dbza’s canon, super kami guru is lord slug’s *evil* half
"Ohh buttons! I love buttons!" 5:59 Caboose would've had fun there
"Tucker did it."
"We all love Nappa but Guru is a monster." Bro Nappa literally forced those bug people to fuck in front of him and Vegeta 😂
Wow Frieza, looks like you're in the Taka *Cut.*
One of my favorite parts about TFS' justification of Frieza powering up is that Goku is actually able to come up with an excuse on the spot. And that Frieza is actually pretty gullible. When Frieza says that he won't fall for the thousand-year-old trick but almost falls for it anyway, earlier he also easily falls for Goku's unintentionally true distraction.
I just like how the scene with asking Porunga for 6 wishes implies bringing back people from the afterlife is easier than making a new planet lol
I mean if we are talking like transporting/assembling mass as a major part of the process, then a planet would definitely be rough.
In our gaming group, after this episode, whenever players deliberately chose the hard path, we referred to it as "going for stuffed crust". As DM one game, I brought stuffed crust to the next game in honor of one particularly risky gamble which killed them all. It was glorious.
24:34 I'm surprised that none of you mentioned that Goku not liking bees is a reference to his training with Master Roshi.
I love the long uninterrupted pause, watching the actual clip with the full gravity of the scene.
And then
"He's super sammich"
Bringing Nappa back over a technicality is just 😙👌.
"I am the terror that flaps in the night" ... ahhhh okay that's Darkwing Duck. I thought he said "I am the terror that quacks in the night"
10:40 - Cheese pulling in Goku's angry eyes is the strangest damn thing.
Editor, I swear to god, when you get to him getting to Mecha Freeza, you better put in the full looping gag he did
"This. Rustles MY JIMMIIIIIIEEEEESSSSSS!"
Krillin could not be wished back by Shenron because he had already been brought back to life in original Dragonball, and at this point in the series, Shenron cannot bring anyone back to life more than once.
I like how Krillin tech is the one that somehow finish Frezza, kinda poetic
I always had the headcanon that 5 minutes for Frieza is different than we humans perceive 5 minutes
Don't defend his stupidity ;)
I've seen video edits of the entire event in 5 minutes. It speeds up insanely quick, only to slow down to normal when people are talking. It works rather well.
I've thought of it as a way of getting in Goku's head. Freeza saying the planet is on the brink of destruction could throw him off and provide a chance for victory.
Frieza has never been able to count. You see how he throws his minions around? He even said “we have more of those in the ship” at one point. Maybe because he has so few fingers…
Yeah, to be fair, its wierd to think that aliens would use the same system of measurement for time as humans do. For all we know 1 minute in galactic standard time might be equal to 1 hour on earth.