@@knightwednesday155 omg ikrrrrr exactly and like he used to simply flash garage and get 3headshot kills like sentinels was truly ahead of the game back then
@@jow_angelow but it's also worthy to note that they're up against some "no-name" while they have a rep of being 4th in Masters Rekjyavik (despite being my region, the only notable ones for me is Bleed and PRX)
I think one reason why Benkai could know that "lineup" for the Phoenix molly is because the drop off is actually very easy to predict. The max distance is exactly the distance at which you will hear footsteps so you can always just run and look at the circle on the map to check the max range and then throw it if you are at the correct distance.
Then Riot actually did a great job by putting that range limit. Adds a small reason to pick Phoenix though his current flash is also great.....oh shit! Riot, please ignore my comment and don't nerf Phoenix...pls 🙂
8:28 well you don't need to remember lineups as phoenix. When you throw the molly at around a 45 degree angle it lands on the edge of the sound circle. Its a pretty cool trick which a lot of ppl don't know
@@valenliu6458 where it lands doesn't really change if u jump or not, cause the molly goes down once it reaches a certain horizontal distance. he prob just jumped to make sure the molly has enough height to not clip yellow or the pyramid.
I even feel like playing dumb comp can be beneficial. You create situations for which people are not ready and you can then just overwhelm people with raw skill.
If this was literally any other map I would be not surprised considering how dumb (in a good way) their comps can be. But the fact that they picked Brim on Breeze is stunning to me. Like Omen or Astra is ok but Brim? 5,500 max Smokes distance and they still make it work lol. Classic Paper Rex.
Tbf, I think brim is the only other smoker that can replicate viper’s wall on A, other smokers can’t smoke off back site but brim can provide some cover there
@@MebiManga ngl brim on breeze is pretty scary if you know how to play him there. been on 2 ranked against a brim on breeze and both time they really fucked us
Also fyi mindfreak is really awful on raze and it always became a meme about him is a raze god on indonesia. It's funny how he picked raze on the map before this just to make a "100% winrate on raze" meme on his twitter lol.
Well, he can affect about the same distance as viper can with her util on defense. And you still keep a degree of post plant strength with brim ult+Molly
if you check his career in SEA scoreboard, you'll see he plays every role actually. He is just that good, even top fragging consistently with controllers.
Paper Rex shows off the craziest styles here in SEA servers. Heck, I see silvers and bronzes playing with the same standard as an immortal in some other regions.
There are a lot of good silver players but they just lack game sense or that they're not consistent. So to compare them to immortals isn't really viable since immortal players would still win no matter what since they're far more consistent and can communicate.
prx didn't just comp troll but they also put mindfreak their smoker on duelist, d4v41 their initiator/flex on to the smoker, benkai their controller on duelist, f0rsaken is kinda like leaf so he can play any role, and jiggg w key.
I watch this game live, and this feel like it's not vct, just a typical apec server rank match. From the team comp to the strat, it's just like a 5 stack having fun and diffing the enemy team
Prx playstyle is so fun to watch and i bet u also agree with me by how your expression through out this video, u seems so happy to cover this match. I mean who wouldnt be excited to watch a team that w keying but with an actual strat?
It's actually scary to face a team with nothing to lose. Just like in the nba when the nuggets won 2 3 to 1 comebacks just because they didn't care if they lose.
It's as if Paper Rex was beating some sense into the stereotypical Sage from comp who keeps insisting that "comms" are more important than common game sense and skill even though she's sitting in a corner for no particular reason while having full vision on all 5 enemies across map
*If you can't beat 'em, undercut 'em!* As Phoenix is outclassed by other agents but many seems to like his playstyle, Riot can make reason to pick him by making his utility cheaper.
prx is like SEN was in NA in early days, once the region develops and it eventually becomes harder for prx people are gonna start hating on them as well. you hate to see it.
Just from watching this, seeing both Reyna and Phoenix, it kind of is weird to say but the individual natures of their kit worked really well for them? Like you can solo with both Reyna and Phoenix since they do their own things and it is something to consider moving forward with? Idk if they will ever use it again but I mean having agents that can just exist without needing as much as set-up on a large map has some potential moving forward.
Jinggg plays Reyna on Haven, and it works very well for him and Paper Rex. Phoenix still feels very clunky because his heals are slow and he needs to stand in his own molly, while Reyna overheals very fast and continue running, or dismiss out of fights.
Prx literally run the worst comps on breeze but still do well, 13-9 for playing 5 agents no one shud play on breeze is not bad, but sadly they still lost
No fucking way they managed to use reyna and fire biy in proffesional tournament AND WON Thats just amazing, they are basically shitting on the enemy, saying _"I dont need pro play character in this fight"_
I'm worried that PRX will not get the practice they need to be better at an international stage. We need more competent teams for them to practice against to get better. They might as well go to Korea and have some scrims.
“You might not know this character Phoenix but he’s actually been in the game from the start” 💀
Back in my day, before these KAY/O’s and Skyes, Phoenix was actually a viable pick
@@mreverything7056 yea man, back in the day Phoenix on ascent is so powerful but now they all use kay/o
that part had me crying lmfaoo 😭😭😭
Lol I remember sick used to play phoenix on haven because the ult was so good at clearing angles
@@knightwednesday155 omg ikrrrrr exactly and like he used to simply flash garage and get 3headshot kills like sentinels was truly ahead of the game back then
Lads saw the 0% pick rate for Phoenix and said: "Fuck that!"
What a champ, now Riot can say: "Phoenix is viable to pick."
btw now Pheonix has 100% win rate
@@vimalslab3398 PRX's plan all along is to make sure he doesnt get buffed 😭
@@elliott8338 I think they want to get him buffed but not reworked
@@vimalslab3398 from least picked to most successful duelist 😳
imagine PHX got
1.3 flash
2.more recovery from E, similar to reyna
3.longer firewall
4.and u can Lineup the E🤣
Now that phoenix has 100% win rate, Rito is about the nerf the lad...
Ah yes can't wait for him to have one slow motion flash and 2 second molly
@@rippedkun wait... isnt that just his regular kit?
@Naufal Mustafa bruh
Bruh, Rito's gonna nerf him again?
It’s the fact that the only normal pick, sova, is being played by forsaken. That just makes it so much funnier
I'm pretty sure he used to play a fair amount sova back when Jinggg first joined the squad
Nah he only plays sova in icebox i think in breeze he always used to play jett
No way is this the same forsaken as the word.exe meme?
@@jakehotchkiss6093 no,,lol,,that forsaken was a indian cheater
@@jakehotchkiss6093 nah don't think so. I wish it was tho it'd be an interesting redemption
Paper Rex went back home, took a look at their 'rivals' and said: "Oh! its just an unrated game? A little bit of trolling wouldn't hurt anyone"
So we went from "Are duelist dying?" to a game with 3 duelists, 2 of them being Reyna and Phoenix?
and before that:
Is yoru the new meta?
yes this is a troll game
AND its paper rex.
@@Cheasle2 bro duelists thrive on paper rex
Prx is an exception kek
Never thought youll make an analysis for literally a troll comp
prx are his favorite team beside m3c and fnatic soo...
cuz it pretty funny lmfao
i mean it makes a good content too
its not just the troll comp, its the fact that they won with the troll comp
@@jow_angelow but it's also worthy to note that they're up against some "no-name" while they have a rep of being 4th in Masters Rekjyavik (despite being my region, the only notable ones for me is Bleed and PRX)
I think one reason why Benkai could know that "lineup" for the Phoenix molly is because the drop off is actually very easy to predict. The max distance is exactly the distance at which you will hear footsteps so you can always just run and look at the circle on the map to check the max range and then throw it if you are at the correct distance.
didnt know that, cool to know
Wow thanks
Same with viper if you look up straight up and throw her dart while running it will land at the edge of the noise circlr
Then Riot actually did a great job by putting that range limit. Adds a small reason to pick Phoenix though his current flash is also great.....oh shit! Riot, please ignore my comment and don't nerf Phoenix...pls 🙂
What would be the camera height?
explaining who phoenix was got me LMAO good one
Waiting until PRX runs 5 duelists to emulate the true SEA experience
Jett as smoker 👌
Yoru as initiator
reyna lurking as sentinel
@@alwinsanthosh6878 reyna is the chamber trip 💀
@@alwinsanthosh6878 no need to dream, my mates always do that one already
4:51 - As a Bronze player I can say: This is not a classical bronze play. In bronze, the brimstones don‘t use their smokes at all.
Or smoke their own team off...
or stack all three smokes on top of each other
Indeed. Those are quality bronze tactics, too.
Tactics are beyond your understanding
Or smoke for the enemy team
"Look at the value of this molly... healing all of like 18 health". I love it when you make fun of the Phoenix utility, it really makes me laugh.
Looked like they instalocked for a pro VCT game.
Who instalocks Phoenix. I only see people play Phoenix if someone picks Reyna
@@gladman9634 who instalocks phoenix you say...
Low elo
They really had a troll composition just to end it with a melee lol
saw this live, literally asserting dominance
This phoenix agent, he seems to be OP with the wall, amazing flash and healing molly???. Rito should probably nerf him
the only agent with 100% win rate btw
@@tama5380 since he's only played once
@@7sukuyomi that's the joke, Sherlock Holmes
8:28 well you don't need to remember lineups as phoenix. When you throw the molly at around a 45 degree angle it lands on the edge of the sound circle. Its a pretty cool trick which a lot of ppl don't know
it was a line up cuz he jumped though
It was line up, benkai jump when his do it
@@valenliu6458 where it lands doesn't really change if u jump or not, cause the molly goes down once it reaches a certain horizontal distance. he prob just jumped to make sure the molly has enough height to not clip yellow or the pyramid.
@@nyan4x which means its still a lineup
Now phoenix has 100 precent winrate in vct
i was also thinking same
I even feel like playing dumb comp can be beneficial. You create situations for which people are not ready and you can then just overwhelm people with raw skill.
yep, competitive games are half mechanics and half mind games/expectation management
If this was literally any other map I would be not surprised considering how dumb (in a good way) their comps can be.
But the fact that they picked Brim on Breeze is stunning to me. Like Omen or Astra is ok but Brim? 5,500 max Smokes distance and they still make it work lol. Classic Paper Rex.
Even Phoenix with the limited wall range can provide some value in the game, I was surprised by that.
Tbf, I think brim is the only other smoker that can replicate viper’s wall on A, other smokers can’t smoke off back site but brim can provide some cover there
@@MebiManga ngl brim on breeze is pretty scary if you know how to play him there. been on 2 ranked against a brim on breeze and both time they really fucked us
Also fyi mindfreak is really awful on raze and it always became a meme about him is a raze god on indonesia. It's funny how he picked raze on the map before this just to make a "100% winrate on raze" meme on his twitter lol.
Well, he can affect about the same distance as viper can with her util on defense. And you still keep a degree of post plant strength with brim ult+Molly
FYI in one of PRX's vlog in Iceland they leak a little bit of their training session which all the players are doing line ups
Was waiting for this, everyone knows they're just having fun, but the viewers definitely had fun watching it too.
3 duelists and forsaken isn't one of them 💀💀💀
They didn't want to play Yoru
Should have used Jett as smoker
if you check his career in SEA scoreboard, you'll see he plays every role actually. He is just that good, even top fragging consistently with controllers.
@@lhsailo yup f0rsaken has almost played every agent on pro play except fade, omen, brim, and viper.
Paper Rex shows off the craziest styles here in SEA servers. Heck, I see silvers and bronzes playing with the same standard as an immortal in some other regions.
There are a lot of good silver players but they just lack game sense or that they're not consistent. So to compare them to immortals isn't really viable since immortal players would still win no matter what since they're far more consistent and can communicate.
prx didn't just comp troll but they also put mindfreak their smoker on duelist, d4v41 their initiator/flex on to the smoker, benkai their controller on duelist, f0rsaken is kinda like leaf so he can play any role, and jiggg w key.
Good thing to let your Smokes and Sentinels play some duelist so they sharpen their aggression and gunplay 😂
@@kenchen704 We need more W key for prx! MORE!
@@amysteriouspersonintophat1458 PRESS W FOR W
late reply, d4v41's flex also includes being a controller, benkai was their initiator
Whats even more funnier is that f0rsaken was playing cypher in map 1 of the same match and mindfreak was put on the duelist
What prx against with?
2 years late, mindfreak put up a good fight as a duelist despite being their controller 💀
I watch this game live, and this feel like it's not vct, just a typical apec server rank match. From the team comp to the strat, it's just like a 5 stack having fun and diffing the enemy team
Prx playstyle is so fun to watch and i bet u also agree with me by how your expression through out this video, u seems so happy to cover this match.
I mean who wouldnt be excited to watch a team that w keying but with an actual strat?
I would be fine with Jett, Yoru and neon on breeze but Raze, Reyna and Phoenix ??!! Demn, prx playing completely different game than us
Riot: "I think we should listen to the people and buff Phoenix"
*After this game
Riot: "Oh wait, let's just focus on the new skins."
Theres nothing to say except: Paper Rex Diff
I knew you're going to do this one, no way you're going to let this slip
Prx really do have the strangest comp this game. Not only just the agents picks but on who is playing who.
That round 1 felt like watching a Chess Blitz game between a GM and a school champion.
i think we need an updated version of this after Masters 2 grand finals
Would have loved to see the haven map with forsaken playing cypher. His cam flick shot + cage on top of container
That was so insane when I saw it live
And then there was the PRX breeze comp in Copenhagen grand final
THANK U FOR MAKING VIDEOS THINKING MAN
When was the last time u actually saw phoenix throw a flash and get a kill?
When TSM's drone used to play phoenix
TSM drone was best Phoenix 😢 His Ace spray down with Phantom was so good
paper rex seem braindamaged but the way that makes you an absolute genius, love these madmen
Disgusting, repulsive, horrifying, disrespectful, and I’m still convinced this is the best pro game of all time
I can't believe Valorant has come to such a state that a goddam *pheonix wall* is the epitome of chaos
i like this game a lot. it feels like they aren't playing tournament rather a group of highschoolers having their time in internet cafe after school.
I was waiting for this!!
Phoenix has 100% win rate in pro scene.
It's actually scary to face a team with nothing to lose. Just like in the nba when the nuggets won 2 3 to 1 comebacks just because they didn't care if they lose.
This team comp looks like my average team comp whenever I que.
They saw your “Are Duelists dying” video and hit u with the John Cena “are you sure about that?” 😭
imagine if they all swapped roles also, mindfreak was on reyna but otherwise imagine jingg on brim
4 of them swapped roles, it would be hilarious if they put jingg on brim though
prx just shows that meta comps aren't necessary and you can make anything work with good teamwork and of course a load of skill
PRX be like : gg ez tutorial
except for Jingg, everyone switched their role lol
It's as if Paper Rex was beating some sense into the stereotypical Sage from comp who keeps insisting that "comms" are more important than common game sense and skill even though she's sitting in a corner for no particular reason while having full vision on all 5 enemies across map
Opponent already got mental breakdown when they saw the picks and knew they are about to get trolled . Saad indeeed
Love the sarcasm and phoenix jokes in the vid😂
*If you can't beat 'em, undercut 'em!*
As Phoenix is outclassed by other agents but many seems to like his playstyle, Riot can make reason to pick him by making his utility cheaper.
Oh shit, now that phoenix has been picked once, his pick rate will still be the lowest but never zero
Paper Rex is such a dominant and fun team to watch. They aren’t my team, but whenever they play in vct I’m always excited to see what they will do.
This is the most bm match ive seen so far
This proves that it really depends on the player.
the most bizzare thing in this match is, paper rex play 3 duelist none of them named f0rsaken..
bro has a phoenix lineup on breeze, they are really betting that phoenix will get buffed soon lol
yes you finally did this video!
Phoenix 100% win rate in pro scene
Yes I was hoping for this
prx is like SEN was in NA in early days, once the region develops and it eventually becomes harder for prx people are gonna start hating on them as well. you hate to see it.
Not if they keep doing this type of comp and their unique playstyle, bcs no one ever expect this type of strat, that's make them stronger than SEN imo
Imagine a whole team thinking like a bunch of plat players in a vct game it would make the other team go bonkers
missed opportunity to call the title: ''PHOENIX META IS HERE?!''
No one: my ranked teammates
Pick rate: -1%
Win rate: 100%
The numbers don't lie.
I love how he always roasts phenix and reyna
10/10 Best Pro VAL match I ever saw.
PRX is literally is the furia of valorant
They inflicted psychological damage to the enemy team
I could not imagine PRX picking a bad comp on Breeze. Surely it wouldn't cost them a Major, right?......right?
I feel like PRX is just limit testing in the MY/SG Challengers. They hone their craft in APAC qualifiers and show their real shit on Masters.
MY BOY HAS 100% WINRATE IN PROPLAY LETSGOO
Just from watching this, seeing both Reyna and Phoenix, it kind of is weird to say but the individual natures of their kit worked really well for them? Like you can solo with both Reyna and Phoenix since they do their own things and it is something to consider moving forward with? Idk if they will ever use it again but I mean having agents that can just exist without needing as much as set-up on a large map has some potential moving forward.
Jinggg plays Reyna on Haven, and it works very well for him and Paper Rex. Phoenix still feels very clunky because his heals are slow and he needs to stand in his own molly, while Reyna overheals very fast and continue running, or dismiss out of fights.
On top of troll comp, they role swapped as well!
Phoenix now has a whopping 100% WR in pro play
Benkai with that pheonix phantom skin. No way its not his main💀
PHOENIX NOW HAS 100% WINRATE IN PRO PLAY
Prx literally run the worst comps on breeze but still do well, 13-9 for playing 5 agents no one shud play on breeze is not bad, but sadly they still lost
I swear, someday paper rex will choose 4 duelists and a smoker and manage to win with it
This is the definition of disrespectful. I would've hated to be Blitz (because they definitely knew they were being disrespected).
Riot's gonna see this and decide phoenix doesnt need a buff...
they just had fun and ended with a knife kill lol
I like the daily content. Pls keep going haha,
No fucking way they managed to use reyna and fire biy in proffesional tournament AND WON
Thats just amazing, they are basically shitting on the enemy, saying _"I dont need pro play character in this fight"_
I laughed hard at this title. Couldn't be more true
Sova and Brim? Best case scenario in bronze.
Paper Rex are my favourite team for this reason
Friendship ended with SEN, PRX my new friend.
agreed
WATCHED THIS LIVE!
I'm worried that PRX will not get the practice they need to be better at an international stage. We need more competent teams for them to practice against to get better. They might as well go to Korea and have some scrims.
they still scrimm against international teams if im not wrong
They say they scrim alot agains drx i remember
oh boy, if only he knew about team SMG
They actually played the default competetive comp. Im just disappointed that they played sova and not Yoru.
phoenix molly always lands just outside sound circle, super ez to lineup
This game was so fun live !!
omg subroza flashback.
back when TSM was the team to beat. damn miss them.