HPD (High Performance Diesel) Oil Catch Can Benefits

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  • Опубликовано: 17 янв 2015
  • The guys from HPDiesel (www.hpdiesel.com.au) now have a huge range of Oil Catch Cans to suit early, and late model diesel vehicles. Here is a video explaining the benefits of fitting a correctly manufactured Oil Catch Can, to eliminate oily residue throughout your turbo system, intercooler, intake manifold and engine.
    All HPD's catch cans are available from www.gcg.com.au!
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  • @nelon5234
    @nelon5234 6 лет назад

    Oil readily transfers heat, not insulates from. It's best to look at the thermal conductivities between engine oil and something like fiberglass, foam, or wood which are considered insulators. In cooler climates, the rapid temperature changes associated with the initial start-up of a vehicle, and then also when it's shut-off to cool back down in those climates creates condensation. Condensation will mix with and coagulate the oil, and that's what's bad for the intercoolers because that blocks the flow. Additionally, since these blow-by gases also have remnants of fuel by-products, that also helps these deposits form and stick to everything. This happens in warmer climates of course, and certain engines will blow-by far more than others, so that's why it's important to consider a PCV system filter like a catch can.

  • @fourbypete
    @fourbypete 6 лет назад +2

    The first mechanic I went to said to me that the HPDiesel catch cans don't work as well as the Provent filters in a lot of vehicles. And I have to say a recent trip to Fraser Island from NSW Central Coast I noticed much more power and a reduction in fuel usage of 2.8 l/100k with the Provent filter. I never bothered asking for a refund on the HPDiesel catch can, I just gave it to a mate that had an old Hilux.

    • @kevinjames3341
      @kevinjames3341 5 лет назад

      @fourbypete are you using Holden Colorado?

    • @martinlang9615
      @martinlang9615 5 лет назад +1

      I’ve just decided to fit the ProVent200 instead of the one very similar (has one stainless screen on the inlet, though I tried using fine stainless steel pot scourers to help with oil adhesion, still not working.)
      The only reason why I did not go ProVent because changing the filter is $70 AUD, which is expensive, however I have since learned that it really should not need changing, also space I thought back then could be an issue.
      I think it will fit here now, so I will swap them over, however I’m going to install the metal one underneath (but not too low) so that all the gunky oil drains into the second can as it is easy to unscrew and empty. That way I should not need to touch the Provent.
      I wish I had known that the filter did not need replacement, I definitely would have gone the MANN and HUMMEL brand as being German and just by looking at all those safety valves, they know how to design stuff.
      I don’t understand why they did not go to metal like the cheaper ones as metal looks more robust to me. Then again I doubt I’ll be standing on it!!!!😂
      Thanks for your comment, hopefully THIS time I get it right.

  • @ronanrogers4127
    @ronanrogers4127 5 лет назад +3

    Get a Provent from Germany that uses proper filter media. Sure, it might need to be replaced after 40,000-50,000 km, but they work. These type of cans that use steel mesh don’t retain enough of the oil mist, and the aluminium body gets very cold in winter, so when the warm engine gases from the rocker hits the alloy can you get a lot of condensation. That’s why Mann & Hummel’s provent isn’t metal, alloy May look good but it’s terrible in cold weather

  • @rcsailing100
    @rcsailing100 3 года назад

    Love the video! I’m from the USA and just purchased a catch can myself. Out of curiosity I assume that intake you have is aftermarket. What brand is it/where did you buy it?

  • @aussiepete8045
    @aussiepete8045 8 лет назад +1

    how can I get my hands on one of these catch cans

  • @boyisidro4654
    @boyisidro4654 8 лет назад

    Is this compatible with the BMW N47 diesel (2.0) engines? Including the fittings and support?

  • @gcgturbos
    @gcgturbos  8 лет назад

    @Boy Easydraw - There hasn't been a direct fit model made for the BMW N47, however there would be little work involved to fit the universal model. These can be found at
    www.gcg.com.au/diesel-oem-performance/diesel-oil-catch-cans/universal-2/universal-catch-can-detail

  • @tamas.alfoldi
    @tamas.alfoldi 8 лет назад

    Can I install a catch can on a 2012 1.7 CRDi Kia Optima?

  • @AM-qy4tg
    @AM-qy4tg 7 лет назад

    Hi GCG,
    Thinking about purchasing this product.
    Regarding the inlet and outlet metal filters, do they require replacement or cleaning at any stage?
    Cheers,

    • @gcgturbos
      @gcgturbos  7 лет назад

      Hi. These catch cans are cleanable, no need to replace any filters, just pull it apart and clean it, and it's ready to go again.

  • @martinlang9615
    @martinlang9615 6 лет назад

    My mechanic could block my EGR, but could not work out how to install the catch can to my 2008 Audi Q7 4.2 V8 TDi, one of the problems was finding a spot in the engine bay to mount it as it is very compact. The induction manifold was removed and cleaned as it had a layer of glossy soot.
    Two DPFs removed as these were clogged and ECU remapped by Euro experts (not the mechanics). The 2006 year had no DPF.
    Any advice?
    I could come to you, takes at least 2 hours though.
    Now for the Prado with a 2007 D4D 3.0 TDi engine.
    The catch can, in fact it looked to be yours and was installed ok.
    I've noticed a 2 mm level on the dipstick from the can early on. It does not increase any more than that, I don't know why. The EGR is also blocked and has seperate ECU due to factory not being able to give the map required. Other mods: larger turbo, 15% higher flow injectors, top mount intercooler removed, massive intercooler installed at the front with custom weld piping.
    Left air box as is with genuine air filter. This year did not yet have DPF.
    I have not unscrewed the catch can yet as I thought this could be normal.
    Any idea why the catch can is only sitting on about 2mm on the tip of the oil catch can stick?

    • @gcgturbos
      @gcgturbos  6 лет назад +1

      Hi Martin,
      We do not have a mechanical workshop on hand to assist with your Audi, but we do have a few Euro specialists that we can recommend in the local area, shoot us an email (michael@gcg.com.au) and we'll send you some details.
      As for the Prado, this sounds perfectly normal. Have a quick look at the hose leading into the side of the catch can from the rocker cover (if you are using HPD branded catch can), if there is oil residue inside it, but only 2mm inside the can, it means the can is working effectively.

  • @blondsuper1751
    @blondsuper1751 7 лет назад

    I wish to add a catch can to my BMW M57 diesel ( as used previously by Land Rover) but I'm not sure how? The stock breather seems difficult to replace or modify or add a hose; any ideas or has anyone done it already?

    • @gcgturbos
      @gcgturbos  7 лет назад +1

      These engines run quite a unique engine breather setup, making this style of catch can unusable unfortunately.

  • @ojoaereo241
    @ojoaereo241 5 лет назад

    I have a VW 3.0 TDI CASA engine (Touareg) ; YES its leaking oil before the turbo where there is a so called (Air Damper) - I recently ordered a new one since its plastic and think its cracked ; Should I buy a catch can and place before the air damper? PLEASE HELP!

    • @gcgturbos
      @gcgturbos  5 лет назад

      Adding a catch can will eliminate the oil passing through the air damper & into the turbocharger inlet system. This will allow for your replacement air damper to have much more longevity, and it also keeps the Turbocharger inlet pipe clean of oil residue.

  • @wkgm11
    @wkgm11 9 лет назад

    Can you change or clean the filters?? also do you make one for 2014 Hilux SR5??

    • @gcgturbos
      @gcgturbos  9 лет назад

      wkgm11 The entire catch can be cleaned, as you can see in the video at 2:59, there are circlips that hold the filters in, simply remove those and you'll be able to access the filters for cleaning. At the moment the HPD range does not cover the SR5 model (goes up to 2013 D4D Hilux), but they are constantly under development, so it shouldn't be too far down the track.

  • @bigbore400
    @bigbore400 9 лет назад

    shouldn't the air pipe work be 100% sealed around and going in to the turbo charger?
    I have oil coatings around where the air pipe goes into the turbo charger as you said in the video.

    • @gcgturbos
      @gcgturbos  9 лет назад

      bigbore400 Are you referring to the oil that has leaked out of the rubber hose, onto the actual hard pipe @ 2:29? Yes there should be an extremely good seal there, especially with a correctly tightened clamp, we would suggest that over time that rubber hose would become a little softer than when it started, and as you know oil needs only the tiniest opening to start making a mess!

  • @bigbore400
    @bigbore400 9 лет назад

    is there any easy way to clean out the oil coatings in the system. Like chemically. Instead of taking it apart.

    • @gcgturbos
      @gcgturbos  9 лет назад

      bigbore400 There sure is, we have the exact product you're referring to:
      gcg.com.au/workshop/engine-care/revive-turbo-cleaner-power-restorer-detail
      You can order directly off our online store, the cleaner you get with it is good for a few good cleans before requiring a refill.

  • @strongherd
    @strongherd 5 лет назад

    Why do car manufacturers would never install OCCs on their cars in the first place?

  • @Saxkiwi
    @Saxkiwi 6 лет назад

    Is blanking the EGR doing the same thing as what a catch can is doing? I'e not allowing the gunk to build up in the Intake manifold. Although doing the blanking will cause error code in the ECU so to fix that with a re program is $700 just wondering what is the best way to go. A catch can at about $300 or $700 reprogram. I have been told blanking gives more power and economy and the engine will last longer.. cheers

    • @gcgturbos
      @gcgturbos  6 лет назад

      A catch can is used to collect and separate oil vapours from oil when an engine is undergoing a blowby situation. This means that only vapours are returned into the inlet of the turbo, not oil itself. This keeps your inlet manifold, turbo, intercooler and piping almost totally free from oil deposits. Blocking an EGR also keeps these items relatively clean, but serves a completely different purpose.

    • @Saxkiwi
      @Saxkiwi 6 лет назад

      Thanks but would blocking the EGR give more power and economy? cheers

    • @gcgturbos
      @gcgturbos  6 лет назад

      Little, to no improvements in power at all. Fuel economy varies greatly between vehicles.
      Remapping after blocking the EGR might help a little, but in our opinion the money is better spent elsewhere.

  • @Boptone1
    @Boptone1 7 лет назад

    Ive had this catch can on my 2016 Ford Ranger for 2000kms. im concerned this doesnt actually stop oil vapor as ive had next to no oil in the catch can. Ive had more water condensation than oil. Do you have a filter for these?

    • @gcgturbos
      @gcgturbos  7 лет назад

      Hi Gavin, water condensation can be common, especially on cold mornings
      (cold aluminium catch can vs warm engine a few minutes after starting).
      If no oil is evident, that's a good sign, it means the engine isn't
      pushing any oil out the breathers. If you pull the catch can apart,
      you'll see there are mesh filters inside held in with circlips.

    • @jaybajan
      @jaybajan 6 лет назад

      can these fit on a Hilux Kun26 2014?

  • @zhr4121
    @zhr4121 7 лет назад

    What happen if i do not install a catch can and i let the blow by hose just to the enviroment ?

    • @gcgturbos
      @gcgturbos  7 лет назад

      If the engine is breathing heavily, it will make a mess.

    • @Matt-px1ki
      @Matt-px1ki 3 года назад +1

      Rustproofing your chassis

  • @semjr.3081
    @semjr.3081 6 лет назад

    Are the filters replaceable?

    • @gcgturbos
      @gcgturbos  6 лет назад

      They can be, but absolutely no need to do so. Every component of the catch can is completely cleanable by simply unscrewing the bottom bowl of the catch can.

  • @stewartknight7464
    @stewartknight7464 7 лет назад

    Hi thanks for a great video and for sharing this info, i just bought a isuzu mux, can you recomend a can for it, i do like the one in the video, where can i purchase, thanks stewart

    • @gcgturbos
      @gcgturbos  7 лет назад

      Hi Stewart - We don't have a direct fit model for the MU-X, but one of customers recently purchased a catch can suit the Isuzu D-Max, which he fitted with a few minimal modifications - you can see these here:
      gcg.com.au/diesel-performance/diesel-1/diesel-oil-catch-cans/search?custom_parent_id=1&limitstart=0&oil_catch_cans_-_vehicles=Isuzu+D-Max

  • @sonny4754
    @sonny4754 5 лет назад +1

    Why don’t diesel cars come with them from manufacture?

    • @K0nst4nt1n96
      @K0nst4nt1n96 4 года назад +1

      Because you would have to clean them regulary? And Manufacturers dont care about things that happen after warranty.

  • @GeorgeGoosen
    @GeorgeGoosen 7 лет назад

    Wont the catch can add additional flow restriction?

    • @gcgturbos
      @gcgturbos  7 лет назад +1

      Hi George - The hoses that are used in the catch can kits meet the factory breather sizing, so there's plenty of flow, and no restrictions evident. The pressure from the engine, and also the slight "vacuum" effect from venting back to the turbo inlet also helps.

  • @sourwords1808
    @sourwords1808 5 лет назад +2

    Millions of cars are produced every year and billions of cars are on the roads today. With hundreds of car makers. Not one if any has produced an engine with this "catch can" component from the factory. I ask why?
    As pointed out it isn't a performance gain and its there to protect the engine, preventing excess oil vapors returning back to turbo/engine, therefore helps with the longevity of the engine.
    The service centers can easily adopt this in between service schedules.
    Based on this and the fact of no real beneficial evidence, i reccomend you don't waste your time with this and probably cause restrictions or possible damage to engine or other components. Or voiding warranty as well.
    By no means i am an expert or a qualified mechanic. But i know one thing that's been working and helping me get good reliable and long engine and transmission life, and that's regular oil and filter change. Its that simple. Keep the oil fresh in your engine bay, you are guaranteed to have an engine last hassle free, for years to come.

    • @tomstephens5024
      @tomstephens5024 5 лет назад +5

      I agree, you're not an expert on this subject. You ask why no manufacture has produced an engine with a Catch Can? "It's a violation of the emission control laws." However, this video is 100% correct. This guy is doing the public a huge favor explaining this. The oil vapor he's talking about, has ruined millions of engines. I specialize on Mercedes-Benz BlueTec diesels. I've been a Mercedes-Benz Mechanic, Shop Foreman, Training Instructor, and Service Manager for 50 years. I can't begin to count the number of engines that have locked up because of the factory recommended Mobil One ESP diesel oil, and the piss pour design of the Mercedes-Benz crankcase ventilation system. Just as this guy explains, hot oil vapor is force feed back into the EGR and air intake system. Where it clogs the entire system with a hard carbon crud. As the Mercedes-Benz BlueTec diesel generates its hot crankcase oil vapor, something else happens. Extreme engine heat also boils away the light distillates in the Mobil One ESP oil. (Those light distillates are what's actually in the oil vapor.) What remains is a thick sludge that closely resembles roofing tar. The sludge starves the crankshaft for oil. The engine locks up as you're driving. If you and your family are lucky enough to not be rear ended and killed; you'll get to ride in a tow truck. When you arrive at your tastefully decorated Mercedes-Benz dealer, your Service Advisor will explain your situation. "We regret to inform you that the warranty doesn't pay for this type of failure. And even though you're still within the warranty period, you'll be the one that pays for a new $30000 engine. ($40000 if you live in L.A.) You'll say something like; "what about those $600 oil changes I prepaid you for? Don't they mean anything?" Sorry! And just to add insult to injury. You won't get a refund on the unused portion of your prepaid maintenance.
      If Mercedes BlueTec diesel owners had this simple Catch Can, it would have saved all of them a great deal of money. Now, back to your original comment. Since you're obviously no expert on emission control systems; why don't you and your 10,000 subscribers go Hee Haw someplace else.

  • @myfacehurts9317
    @myfacehurts9317 6 лет назад

    Can i fit one of these to my victa lawnmower also $385 seems a little cheap is there any dearer ones out there only the best for my victa

    • @gcgturbos
      @gcgturbos  6 лет назад +2

      You can buy two, it will make you feel better :)

    • @myfacehurts9317
      @myfacehurts9317 6 лет назад

      GCG Turbochargers Australia Pty Ltd yea nah nah

    • @martinlang9615
      @martinlang9615 5 лет назад

      my face hurts $199 plus postage from Cost Effective Maintenance (google em), their Provent 200 model is made by leading German manufacturer MANN and HUMMEL, they make OEM filters for the “Big” name manufacturers in Europe.
      Not a good idea for the old Victa tho 😝

  • @PapaPeee
    @PapaPeee 8 лет назад

    can I install a catch can on a non turbo diesel engine?

    • @gcgturbos
      @gcgturbos  8 лет назад

      +Pheejeigh Cruz Yes, you can install this on a non turbo diesel engine.

    • @PapaPeee
      @PapaPeee 8 лет назад

      thanks.
      another question, do I have to buy a specific tank for my engine? or is it universal?

    • @PapaPeee
      @PapaPeee 8 лет назад

      thanks.
      another question, do I have to buy a specific tank for my engine? or is it universal?

    • @gcgturbos
      @gcgturbos  8 лет назад +1

      +Pheejeigh Cruz There is a large range of vehicle specific catch cans, and for those vehicles that haven't been manufactured yet, there is a universal catch can. The catch cans be found on our online store: gcg.com.au/diesel-oem-performance/diesel-oil-catch-cans

  • @Rick3962002
    @Rick3962002 4 года назад +1

    Don't waste your money on this one!